Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Dear Gem experts I have difficulties to find a suitable gem for overall improvement of my career and life. Some suggested me to wear ruby since i am leo ascendant some suggested to wear coral since mars is yogakaraka, some suggested me to use yelow saphire since jupitor is in my career house and also the lord of 5th and some suggested me to use dimond as venus is rasi lord. I spent lot of money to take those advice and also to buy good quality gems. none gave me desired results rather some of them gave trouble. Please find my birth details below and I will appreciate it if you could suggest a good gem for me. Here are my resons why the above gems should not work for me. Let me know your remarks. Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level and stress increased when i worn it. Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my opponents rather than me Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. So I feel it is not appropriate to recommend a gem based on ascendant or a yogakarak planet. Birth details DOB: 15 August 1964 TOB: 7:12 POB: Bhubaneswar 85.25E, 20.15N thanks. Sudhir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 It was your Mercury dasa aspected by powerful malefic Saturn that gives trouble. Antardasa is of Saturn. In chara dasa, it was Aqu running from 1997-2005, containing GK. It is bound to give some troubles marital troubles being one of them. No gem can give you relief from these troubles except depriving you of your hard earned money. Your Ketu dasa should be much better. Please let me know the trends of your life from 1997 to 2005 regarding health, marriage etc. It will help me in my research on chara dasa. I will be thankful to you. P.Kumar (Mumbai) - "sudhir_panda_bbsr" <sudhir_panda_bbsr <vedic astrology> Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:28 AM [vedic astrology] What gem is suitable for me > Dear Gem experts > > I have difficulties to find a suitable gem for overall improvement of > my career and life. Some suggested me to wear ruby since i am leo > ascendant some suggested to wear coral since mars is yogakaraka, some > suggested me to use yelow saphire since jupitor is in my career house > and also the lord of 5th and some suggested me to use dimond as venus > is rasi lord. I spent lot of money to take those advice and also to > buy good quality gems. none gave me desired results rather some of > them gave trouble. > Please find my birth details below and I will appreciate it if you > could suggest a good gem for me. Here are my resons why the above gems > should not work for me. Let me know your remarks. > > Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level > and stress increased when i worn it. > Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants > Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my > opponents rather than me > Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. > > So I feel it is not appropriate to recommend a gem based on ascendant > or a yogakarak planet. > > Birth details > DOB: 15 August 1964 > TOB: 7:12 > POB: Bhubaneswar 85.25E, 20.15N > > thanks. > Sudhir > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Bharat Bhayia, I was reading your message below, and would like to ask a question...you say that we never prescribe a gem for a planet in debilitation, however, should we actually do that so that the planet will come out of debilitation?... ex, for scorpio lagna jupiter is 2nd and 5th lord in 3rd house debilitated...now all things assumed constant, should we not say that the native actually install a jyotish quality yellow sapphire? Kindly enlighten? Namaste gaurav jain CC: fellow students in SJC-africa list... a message dated 2/15/2006 3:30:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hinduastrology writes: Namaskaar Sri Sudhir For this chart and for the current dasha, I would advise chanting of Mahamritunjya Mantra. Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level and stress increased when i worn it. Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my opponents rather than me Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. As per my understanding, never wear a gem of a dusthana lord or any graha in dusthana or in debilitation. This applies to both Rasi and Navamsa chart. Sun is in 12th and in 6th in Navamsa. Mars in Rahu's nakshatra and with Rahu. Rahu is a great problem creator for Leo lagna. Jupiter is debilitated in Navamsa. In one of Sri K. N. Rao's books it is suggested that 5th lord is not conducive to the 10th house (because of 8th lordship from the 5th). I do remember reading this someplace but I may be mistaken about the author. In any case Yellow Sapphire is no-no for you. Instead a Citrine Crystal (about 1/100th the cost of a Yellow Sapphire) should be kept in the wealth box or in the left deepest corner of your house. Venus is with Rahu and it is also under Kendradhipati dosha, besides being the 3rd lord. Even if you were to wear a Ruby, it should have been set in Copper or Gold plated Besa Yantra and worn after requisite pujas. My advise is that no to spend anymore money on Gems and start chanting of Mahamritunjya Mantra. Please visit Lord Krishna's temple on every Wednesday and Saturday and chant "Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya" 108 times in the Temple. Hope the above is helpful. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 2/15/06, sudhir_panda_bbsr <sudhir_panda_bbsr wrote: > > Dear Gem experts > > I have difficulties to find a suitable gem for overall improvement of > my career and life. Some suggested me to wear ruby since i am leo > ascendant some suggested to wear coral since mars is yogakaraka, some > suggested me to use yelow saphire since jupitor is in my career house > and also the lord of 5th and some suggested me to use dimond as venus > is rasi lord. I spent lot of money to take those advice and also to > buy good quality gems. none gave me desired results rather some of > them gave trouble. > Please find my birth details below and I will appreciate it if you > could suggest a good gem for me. Here are my resons why the above gems > should not work for me. Let me know your remarks. > > Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level > and stress increased when i worn it. > Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants > Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my > opponents rather than me > Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. > > So I feel it is not appropriate to recommend a gem based on ascendant > or a yogakarak planet. > > Birth details > DOB: 15 August 1964 > TOB: 7:12 > POB: Bhubaneswar 85.25E, 20.15N > > thanks. > Sudhir > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Namaskaar Sri Sudhir For this chart and for the current dasha, I would advise chanting of Mahamritunjya Mantra. Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level and stress increased when i worn it. Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my opponents rather than me Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. As per my understanding, never wear a gem of a dusthana lord or any graha in dusthana or in debilitation. This applies to both Rasi and Navamsa chart. Sun is in 12th and in 6th in Navamsa. Mars in Rahu's nakshatra and with Rahu. Rahu is a great problem creator for Leo lagna. Jupiter is debilitated in Navamsa. In one of Sri K. N. Rao's books it is suggested that 5th lord is not conducive to the 10th house (because of 8th lordship from the 5th). I do remember reading this someplace but I may be mistaken about the author. In any case Yellow Sapphire is no-no for you. Instead a Citrine Crystal (about 1/100th the cost of a Yellow Sapphire) should be kept in the wealth box or in the left deepest corner of your house. Venus is with Rahu and it is also under Kendradhipati dosha, besides being the 3rd lord. Even if you were to wear a Ruby, it should have been set in Copper or Gold plated Besa Yantra and worn after requisite pujas. My advise is that no to spend anymore money on Gems and start chanting of Mahamritunjya Mantra. Please visit Lord Krishna's temple on every Wednesday and Saturday and chant "Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya" 108 times in the Temple. Hope the above is helpful. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 2/15/06, sudhir_panda_bbsr <sudhir_panda_bbsr wrote: > > Dear Gem experts > > I have difficulties to find a suitable gem for overall improvement of > my career and life. Some suggested me to wear ruby since i am leo > ascendant some suggested to wear coral since mars is yogakaraka, some > suggested me to use yelow saphire since jupitor is in my career house > and also the lord of 5th and some suggested me to use dimond as venus > is rasi lord. I spent lot of money to take those advice and also to > buy good quality gems. none gave me desired results rather some of > them gave trouble. > Please find my birth details below and I will appreciate it if you > could suggest a good gem for me. Here are my resons why the above gems > should not work for me. Let me know your remarks. > > Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level > and stress increased when i worn it. > Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants > Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my > opponents rather than me > Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. > > So I feel it is not appropriate to recommend a gem based on ascendant > or a yogakarak planet. > > Birth details > DOB: 15 August 1964 > TOB: 7:12 > POB: Bhubaneswar 85.25E, 20.15N > > thanks. > Sudhir > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > Astrology chart</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=\ Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=Uokti\ PHSoTwQkpGMXBNeEg> Vedic > astrology</gads?t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart\ &w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=q\ NtEn5POAbTpzmtNKIdnHA> Astrology > horoscope</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+horoscope&w1=Astrology+c\ hart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.s\ ig=8kShDb5zI-EsRMSq6tgiew> Astrology > software</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+software&w1=Astrology+cha\ rt&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig\ =Je51jg697mjdLNt6iLuaCw> > ------------------------------ > > > > - Visit your group "vedic astrology<vedic astrology>" > on the web. > > - > vedic astrology<vedic astrology-@gro\ ups.com?subject=Un> > > - Terms of > Service <>. > > > ------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 One correction: "is suggested that 5th lord is not conducive to the 10th house (because of 8th lordship from the 5th)" It should 8th lordship from the 10th. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 2/16/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaskaar Sri Sudhir > > For this chart and for the current dasha, I would advise chanting of > Mahamritunjya Mantra. > > Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level > and stress increased when i worn it. > Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants > Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my > opponents rather than me > Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. > > As per my understanding, never wear a gem of a dusthana lord or any graha > in dusthana or in debilitation. This applies to both Rasi and Navamsa chart. > Sun is in 12th and in 6th in Navamsa. Mars in Rahu's nakshatra and with > Rahu. Rahu is a great problem creator for Leo lagna. Jupiter is debilitated > in Navamsa. In one of Sri K. N. Rao's books it is suggested that 5th lord is > not conducive to the 10th house (because of 8th lordship from the 5th). I do > remember reading this someplace but I may be mistaken about the author. In > any case Yellow Sapphire is no-no for you. Instead a Citrine Crystal (about > 1/100th the cost of a Yellow Sapphire) should be kept in the wealth box or > in the left deepest corner of your house. > > Venus is with Rahu and it is also under Kendradhipati dosha, besides being > the 3rd lord. > > Even if you were to wear a Ruby, it should have been set in Copper or Gold > plated Besa Yantra and worn after requisite pujas. > > My advise is that no to spend anymore money on Gems and start chanting of > Mahamritunjya Mantra. Please visit Lord Krishna's temple on every Wednesday > and Saturday and chant "Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya" 108 times in the > Temple. > > Hope the above is helpful. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > > > > On 2/15/06, sudhir_panda_bbsr < sudhir_panda_bbsr wrote: > > > > Dear Gem experts > > > > I have difficulties to find a suitable gem for overall improvement of > > my career and life. Some suggested me to wear ruby since i am leo > > ascendant some suggested to wear coral since mars is yogakaraka, some > > suggested me to use yelow saphire since jupitor is in my career house > > and also the lord of 5th and some suggested me to use dimond as venus > > is rasi lord. I spent lot of money to take those advice and also to > > buy good quality gems. none gave me desired results rather some of > > them gave trouble. > > Please find my birth details below and I will appreciate it if you > > could suggest a good gem for me. Here are my resons why the above gems > > should not work for me. Let me know your remarks. > > > > Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level > > and stress increased when i worn it. > > Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants > > Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my > > opponents rather than me > > Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. > > > > So I feel it is not appropriate to recommend a gem based on ascendant > > or a yogakarak planet. > > > > Birth details > > DOB: 15 August 1964 > > TOB: 7:12 > > POB: Bhubaneswar 85.25E, 20.15N > > > > thanks. > > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology chart</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=\ Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=Uokti\ PHSoTwQkpGMXBNeEg> Vedic > > astrology</gads?t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart\ &w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=q\ NtEn5POAbTpzmtNKIdnHA> Astrology > > horoscope</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+horoscope&w1=Astrology+c\ hart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.s\ ig=8kShDb5zI-EsRMSq6tgiew> Astrology > > software</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+software&w1=Astrology+cha\ rt&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig\ =Je51jg697mjdLNt6iLuaCw> > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > - Visit your group "vedic astrology<vedic astrology>" > > on the web. > > > > - > > vedic astrology<vedic astrology-@gro\ ups.com?subject=Un> > > > > - Terms of > > Service <> . > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Dear Bharatji and Praveenji Thanks for your kind suggestions. I perfectly understand your analyses and suggestions because I am now educated in jyotishi: Had I learnt it 20 years before my parents and I would have much more mental peace without loosing money or worthless advices. I forgot to mention that I also worn Emerald (Mercury being present dasa lord) and also Blue Sapphire. While Emerald did help to some extent, Blue Sapphire almost killed me in accidents. Bharatji, you are right in your prescriptions and that is what I am following for last couple years. I wish at least one of the professional jyotishis that I contacted to be as thoughtful as you are. I basically raised the point to say that we should not follow a few general guidelines to wear gems. Best wishes Sudhir P.S. Praveenji I will send the details to your private mail. vedic astrology, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaskaar Sri Sudhir > > For this chart and for the current dasha, I would advise chanting of > Mahamritunjya Mantra. > > Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level > and stress increased when i worn it. > Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants > Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my > opponents rather than me > Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. > > As per my understanding, never wear a gem of a dusthana lord or any graha in > dusthana or in debilitation. This applies to both Rasi and Navamsa chart. > Sun is in 12th and in 6th in Navamsa. Mars in Rahu's nakshatra and with > Rahu. Rahu is a great problem creator for Leo lagna. Jupiter is debilitated > in Navamsa. In one of Sri K. N. Rao's books it is suggested that 5th lord is > not conducive to the 10th house (because of 8th lordship from the 5th). I do > remember reading this someplace but I may be mistaken about the author. In > any case Yellow Sapphire is no-no for you. Instead a Citrine Crystal (about > 1/100th the cost of a Yellow Sapphire) should be kept in the wealth box or > in the left deepest corner of your house. > > Venus is with Rahu and it is also under Kendradhipati dosha, besides being > the 3rd lord. > > Even if you were to wear a Ruby, it should have been set in Copper or Gold > plated Besa Yantra and worn after requisite pujas. > > My advise is that no to spend anymore money on Gems and start chanting of > Mahamritunjya Mantra. Please visit Lord Krishna's temple on every Wednesday > and Saturday and chant "Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya" 108 times in the > Temple. > > Hope the above is helpful. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > > > > On 2/15/06, sudhir_panda_bbsr <sudhir_panda_bbsr wrote: > > > > Dear Gem experts > > > > I have difficulties to find a suitable gem for overall improvement of > > my career and life. Some suggested me to wear ruby since i am leo > > ascendant some suggested to wear coral since mars is yogakaraka, some > > suggested me to use yelow saphire since jupitor is in my career house > > and also the lord of 5th and some suggested me to use dimond as venus > > is rasi lord. I spent lot of money to take those advice and also to > > buy good quality gems. none gave me desired results rather some of > > them gave trouble. > > Please find my birth details below and I will appreciate it if you > > could suggest a good gem for me. Here are my resons why the above gems > > should not work for me. Let me know your remarks. > > > > Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level > > and stress increased when i worn it. > > Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants > > Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my > > opponents rather than me > > Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. > > > > So I feel it is not appropriate to recommend a gem based on ascendant > > or a yogakarak planet. > > > > Birth details > > DOB: 15 August 1964 > > TOB: 7:12 > > POB: Bhubaneswar 85.25E, 20.15N > > > > thanks. > > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology chart</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=\ Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=Uokti\ PHSoTwQkpGMXBNeEg> Vedic > > astrology</gads?t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart\ &w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=q\ NtEn5POAbTpzmtNKIdnHA> Astrology > > horoscope</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+horoscope&w1=Astrology+c\ hart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.s\ ig=8kShDb5zI-EsRMSq6tgiew> Astrology > > software</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+software&w1=Astrology+cha\ rt&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig\ =Je51jg697mjdLNt6iLuaCw> > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > - Visit your group "vedic astrology<vedic astrology>" > > on the web. > > > > - > > vedic astrology<vedic astrology-@gro\ ups.com?subject=Un> > > > > - Terms of > > Service <>. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Namaskaar Sri Gaurav Debilitation break the seizing effect of the grahas. Suppose Jupiter is debilitated, this means the person will not have attachment with the Perceptor or Guru or Tradition or Norms of the Society. Now if there are criminal tendencies in such a person, debilitation of Guru is bad and efforts should be made to strengthen it. If there are spiritual tendencies in a person, then debilitation of Guru is better as it will help in finding solace within oneself. When Jupiter is debilitated, one becomes experimental and he tends to question dharma. The important thing to understand is, why does a person question dharma? Here we require the Veda to understand the same: An individual dislikes limitation and wants to be free. Why does a person want to be free? It is because freedom is natural to us. Why do we want to be happy? We want it because it is natural to us. How do we say that Happiness is Natural to us? - Because we do not complain when we are happy and Anything natural is not a matter for complaint. That is why we do not complain when our eyes see because sight is natural to eyes. So it should be understood that our nature is Happiness itself and Freedom itself. The Veda tell us why is it so too. I would reserve from saying anymore. Coming back to Jupiter, when one does adharma- it is his "misdirected want" to be free. He considers Dharma as a binding upon himself. He does not understand that working through Dharma, he will be able to calm his mind and take to more meditative knowledge. If Jupiter is unaspected, the person will take this route and falter, suffer and come to understand dharma. If Jupiter is exalted, then the person will be so adhering to dharma that he might just get over attached to its application in society. He would want to be seen as a dharmic figure. Here, the seizing effect will be very strong. So the society will offer him goodness, popularity and he will be engaged and seized by it. Remember what Yama offers Nachiketa before giving him Brahma Vidya! So we need to check this at spiritual level and mental level. Breaking of attachment is good for spirituality. On a mental and societal level such a result is not considered good. Now, if there were no malefic influence over Jupiter, I would not prescribe the gemstone instead I would ask the individual to do seva in a Shiva or a Vishnu Temple. As gain in spirituality will ultimately lead to benefit of mental and societal planes too. It is important to see, how Jupiter is placed, whether or not it has malefic lordship and also the nakshatra linkages of the chart. Now, most importantly, gemstone presricption should never be done such that life of the native is harmed in any way. I like your example - "All things assumed constant" , this isn't physics that you can bring in pi the constant. This is what we used to do while studying engineering. Nonethess, 2nd lordship of Jupiter is partly undesirable. The 2nd house lord needs support to bring its results, while the 5th is a good house and is independent. In such a case, if Jupiter's guna is not disturbed and nakshatra linkages are okay, Pukhraj can be prescribed. If Jupiter is with malefic grahas or its Guna is modified, then, it is not suitable. If one is unsure, then best to use Yantra with the Gemstone. This I have found working in many many cases. What Sri Sudhir pointed out was right, one cannot prescribe gemstone with eyes closed just on the basis of being a Yogakaraka or a Lagnesh. Now check what he says about Mercury and Emerald. Emerald did suit him partially, but I wouldn't suggest him the same as it is a powerful Markesh. It can bring death suddenly. Those who tend to strength the Sasha Mahapurusha Yoga in his chart can only do so at his life's peril. 6th Lord with markesh drishti on Self. Seventh Lord, itself a Markesh. Who in his right mind would prescribe a Blue Sapphire for Sri Sudhir? I view Grahas very different and many may not fully agree to the views about Exalted Grahas and Debilitated Grahas. Btw, what is Bhaiya doing in front of my name? You are making me sound old. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 2/16/06, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Namaste Bharat Bhayia, > > I was reading your message below, and would like to ask a question...you > say > that we never prescribe a gem for a planet in debilitation, however, > should > we actually do that so that the planet will come out of debilitation?... > ex, > for scorpio lagna jupiter is 2nd and 5th lord in 3rd house > debilitated...now > all things assumed constant, should we not say that the native actually > install a jyotish quality yellow sapphire? > > Kindly enlighten? > Namaste > gaurav jain > CC: fellow students in SJC-africa list... > > a message dated 2/15/2006 3:30:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > hinduastrology writes: > > Namaskaar Sri Sudhir > > For this chart and for the current dasha, I would advise chanting of > Mahamritunjya Mantra. > > Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level > and stress increased when i worn it. > Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants > Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my > opponents rather than me > Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. > > As per my understanding, never wear a gem of a dusthana lord or any graha > in > dusthana or in debilitation. This applies to both Rasi and Navamsa chart. > Sun is in 12th and in 6th in Navamsa. Mars in Rahu's nakshatra and with > Rahu. Rahu is a great problem creator for Leo lagna. Jupiter is > debilitated > in Navamsa. In one of Sri K. N. Rao's books it is suggested that 5th lord > is > not conducive to the 10th house (because of 8th lordship from the 5th). I > do > remember reading this someplace but I may be mistaken about the author. > In > any case Yellow Sapphire is no-no for you. Instead a Citrine Crystal > (about > 1/100th the cost of a Yellow Sapphire) should be kept in the wealth box > or > in the left deepest corner of your house. > > Venus is with Rahu and it is also under Kendradhipati dosha, besides > being > the 3rd lord. > > Even if you were to wear a Ruby, it should have been set in Copper or > Gold > plated Besa Yantra and worn after requisite pujas. > > My advise is that no to spend anymore money on Gems and start chanting of > Mahamritunjya Mantra. Please visit Lord Krishna's temple on every > Wednesday > and Saturday and chant "Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya" 108 times in the > Temple. > > Hope the above is helpful. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > > > > On 2/15/06, sudhir_panda_bbsr <sudhir_panda_bbsr wrote: > > > > Dear Gem experts > > > > I have difficulties to find a suitable gem for overall improvement of > > my career and life. Some suggested me to wear ruby since i am leo > > ascendant some suggested to wear coral since mars is yogakaraka, some > > suggested me to use yelow saphire since jupitor is in my career house > > and also the lord of 5th and some suggested me to use dimond as venus > > is rasi lord. I spent lot of money to take those advice and also to > > buy good quality gems. none gave me desired results rather some of > > them gave trouble. > > Please find my birth details below and I will appreciate it if you > > could suggest a good gem for me. Here are my resons why the above gems > > should not work for me. Let me know your remarks. > > > > Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level > > and stress increased when i worn it. > > Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants > > Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my > > opponents rather than me > > Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. > > > > So I feel it is not appropriate to recommend a gem based on ascendant > > or a yogakarak planet. > > > > Birth details > > DOB: 15 August 1964 > > TOB: 7:12 > > POB: Bhubaneswar 85.25E, 20.15N > > > > thanks. > > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 We normally never suggest gem for lord of 6-8 only. We suggest other Upayas skotak yobrevol wrote: || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Bharat Bhayia, I was reading your message below, and would like to ask a question...you say that we never prescribe a gem for a planet in debilitation, however, should we actually do that so that the planet will come out of debilitation?... ex, for scorpio lagna jupiter is 2nd and 5th lord in 3rd house debilitated...now all things assumed constant, should we not say that the native actually install a jyotish quality yellow sapphire? Kindly enlighten? Namaste gaurav jain CC: fellow students in SJC-africa list... a message dated 2/15/2006 3:30:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hinduastrology writes: Namaskaar Sri Sudhir For this chart and for the current dasha, I would advise chanting of Mahamritunjya Mantra. Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level and stress increased when i worn it. Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my opponents rather than me Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. As per my understanding, never wear a gem of a dusthana lord or any graha in dusthana or in debilitation. This applies to both Rasi and Navamsa chart. Sun is in 12th and in 6th in Navamsa. Mars in Rahu's nakshatra and with Rahu. Rahu is a great problem creator for Leo lagna. Jupiter is debilitated in Navamsa. In one of Sri K. N. Rao's books it is suggested that 5th lord is not conducive to the 10th house (because of 8th lordship from the 5th). I do remember reading this someplace but I may be mistaken about the author. In any case Yellow Sapphire is no-no for you. Instead a Citrine Crystal (about 1/100th the cost of a Yellow Sapphire) should be kept in the wealth box or in the left deepest corner of your house. Venus is with Rahu and it is also under Kendradhipati dosha, besides being the 3rd lord. Even if you were to wear a Ruby, it should have been set in Copper or Gold plated Besa Yantra and worn after requisite pujas. My advise is that no to spend anymore money on Gems and start chanting of Mahamritunjya Mantra. Please visit Lord Krishna's temple on every Wednesday and Saturday and chant "Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya" 108 times in the Temple. Hope the above is helpful. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 2/15/06, sudhir_panda_bbsr <sudhir_panda_bbsr wrote: > > Dear Gem experts > > I have difficulties to find a suitable gem for overall improvement of > my career and life. Some suggested me to wear ruby since i am leo > ascendant some suggested to wear coral since mars is yogakaraka, some > suggested me to use yelow saphire since jupitor is in my career house > and also the lord of 5th and some suggested me to use dimond as venus > is rasi lord. I spent lot of money to take those advice and also to > buy good quality gems. none gave me desired results rather some of > them gave trouble. > Please find my birth details below and I will appreciate it if you > could suggest a good gem for me. Here are my resons why the above gems > should not work for me. Let me know your remarks. > > Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level > and stress increased when i worn it. > Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants > Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my > opponents rather than me > Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. > > So I feel it is not appropriate to recommend a gem based on ascendant > or a yogakarak planet. > > Birth details > DOB: 15 August 1964 > TOB: 7:12 > POB: Bhubaneswar 85.25E, 20.15N > > thanks. > Sudhir > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaste Bharat ji, It was a very beautiful explanation. You are older in age, experience and knowledge, and are ( in my perception) a guiding soul for someone like me, so I used Bhayia... You really think Cubic Zirconia work as a substitute for Diamond? Namaste Gaurav Jain In a message dated 2/16/2006 3:41:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, hinduastrology writes: Namaskaar Sri Gaurav Debilitation break the seizing effect of the grahas. Suppose Jupiter is debilitated, this means the person will not have attachment with the Perceptor or Guru or Tradition or Norms of the Society. Now if there are criminal tendencies in such a person, debilitation of Guru is bad and efforts should be made to strengthen it. If there are spiritual tendencies in a person, then debilitation of Guru is better as it will help in finding solace within oneself. When Jupiter is debilitated, one becomes experimental and he tends to question dharma. The important thing to understand is, why does a person question dharma? Here we require the Veda to understand the same: An individual dislikes limitation and wants to be free. Why does a person want to be free? It is because freedom is natural to us. Why do we want to be happy? We want it because it is natural to us. How do we say that Happiness is Natural to us? - Because we do not complain when we are happy and Anything natural is not a matter for complaint. That is why we do not complain when our eyes see because sight is natural to eyes. So it should be understood that our nature is Happiness itself and Freedom itself. The Veda tell us why is it so too. I would reserve from saying anymore. Coming back to Jupiter, when one does adharma- it is his "misdirected want" to be free. He considers Dharma as a binding upon himself. He does not understand that working through Dharma, he will be able to calm his mind and take to more meditative knowledge. If Jupiter is unaspected, the person will take this route and falter, suffer and come to understand dharma. If Jupiter is exalted, then the person will be so adhering to dharma that he might just get over attached to its application in society. He would want to be seen as a dharmic figure. Here, the seizing effect will be very strong. So the society will offer him goodness, popularity and he will be engaged and seized by it. Remember what Yama offers Nachiketa before giving him Brahma Vidya! So we need to check this at spiritual level and mental level. Breaking of attachment is good for spirituality. On a mental and societal level such a result is not considered good. Now, if there were no malefic influence over Jupiter, I would not prescribe the gemstone instead I would ask the individual to do seva in a Shiva or a Vishnu Temple. As gain in spirituality will ultimately lead to benefit of mental and societal planes too. It is important to see, how Jupiter is placed, whether or not it has malefic lordship and also the nakshatra linkages of the chart. Now, most importantly, gemstone presricption should never be done such that life of the native is harmed in any way. I like your example - "All things assumed constant" , this isn't physics that you can bring in pi the constant. This is what we used to do while studying engineering. Nonethess, 2nd lordship of Jupiter is partly undesirable. The 2nd house lord needs support to bring its results, while the 5th is a good house and is independent. In such a case, if Jupiter's guna is not disturbed and nakshatra linkages are okay, Pukhraj can be prescribed. If Jupiter is with malefic grahas or its Guna is modified, then, it is not suitable. If one is unsure, then best to use Yantra with the Gemstone. This I have found working in many many cases. What Sri Sudhir pointed out was right, one cannot prescribe gemstone with eyes closed just on the basis of being a Yogakaraka or a Lagnesh. Now check what he says about Mercury and Emerald. Emerald did suit him partially, but I wouldn't suggest him the same as it is a powerful Markesh. It can bring death suddenly. Those who tend to strength the Sasha Mahapurusha Yoga in his chart can only do so at his life's peril. 6th Lord with markesh drishti on Self. Seventh Lord, itself a Markesh. Who in his right mind would prescribe a Blue Sapphire for Sri Sudhir? I view Grahas very different and many may not fully agree to the views about Exalted Grahas and Debilitated Grahas. Btw, what is Bhaiya doing in front of my name? You are making me sound old. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 2/16/06, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Namaste Bharat Bhayia, > > I was reading your message below, and would like to ask a question...you > say > that we never prescribe a gem for a planet in debilitation, however, > should > we actually do that so that the planet will come out of debilitation?... > ex, > for scorpio lagna jupiter is 2nd and 5th lord in 3rd house > debilitated...now > all things assumed constant, should we not say that the native actually > install a jyotish quality yellow sapphire? > > Kindly enlighten? > Namaste > gaurav jain > CC: fellow students in SJC-africa list... > > a message dated 2/15/2006 3:30:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > hinduastrology writes: > > Namaskaar Sri Sudhir > > For this chart and for the current dasha, I would advise chanting of > Mahamritunjya Mantra. > > Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level > and stress increased when i worn it. > Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants > Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my > opponents rather than me > Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. > > As per my understanding, never wear a gem of a dusthana lord or any graha > in > dusthana or in debilitation. This applies to both Rasi and Navamsa chart. > Sun is in 12th and in 6th in Navamsa. Mars in Rahu's nakshatra and with > Rahu. Rahu is a great problem creator for Leo lagna. Jupiter is > debilitated > in Navamsa. In one of Sri K. N. Rao's books it is suggested that 5th lord > is > not conducive to the 10th house (because of 8th lordship from the 5th). I > do > remember reading this someplace but I may be mistaken about the author. > In > any case Yellow Sapphire is no-no for you. Instead a Citrine Crystal > (about > 1/100th the cost of a Yellow Sapphire) should be kept in the wealth box > or > in the left deepest corner of your house. > > Venus is with Rahu and it is also under Kendradhipati dosha, besides > being > the 3rd lord. > > Even if you were to wear a Ruby, it should have been set in Copper or > Gold > plated Besa Yantra and worn after requisite pujas. > > My advise is that no to spend anymore money on Gems and start chanting of > Mahamritunjya Mantra. Please visit Lord Krishna's temple on every > Wednesday > and Saturday and chant "Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya" 108 times in the > Temple. > > Hope the above is helpful. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > > > > On 2/15/06, sudhir_panda_bbsr <sudhir_panda_bbsr wrote: > > > > Dear Gem experts > > > > I have difficulties to find a suitable gem for overall improvement of > > my career and life. Some suggested me to wear ruby since i am leo > > ascendant some suggested to wear coral since mars is yogakaraka, some > > suggested me to use yelow saphire since jupitor is in my career house > > and also the lord of 5th and some suggested me to use dimond as venus > > is rasi lord. I spent lot of money to take those advice and also to > > buy good quality gems. none gave me desired results rather some of > > them gave trouble. > > Please find my birth details below and I will appreciate it if you > > could suggest a good gem for me. Here are my resons why the above gems > > should not work for me. Let me know your remarks. > > > > Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level > > and stress increased when i worn it. > > Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants > > Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my > > opponents rather than me > > Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. > > > > So I feel it is not appropriate to recommend a gem based on ascendant > > or a yogakarak planet. > > > > Birth details > > DOB: 15 August 1964 > > TOB: 7:12 > > POB: Bhubaneswar 85.25E, 20.15N > > > > thanks. > > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology > > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... 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