Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Dear bharat ji, I have been wearing a diamond ring since 12 years.It was not as per suggestion from any astrologer but a gift. I have also been wearing an yellow saphire(in gold) and a blue stone( semi precious in silver) in my right hand ring finger and the middle finger respectively on astro suggestions, since 1998. my health has been steadily nosediving as also my career for the last few years more so 5 years. I am totally devastated as regards my health and also had to give up my job. my birth details 28-02-1960, 14,42 hrs at Madras. I am a Gemini rising, with Jupiter and saturn in 7th, venus and mars in 8th, mercury, moon and ketu in 10th, sun in 9th, rahu in 4th. I was recently advised to remove the diamond as venus is in 8th by one astro friend and advised not to remove by another person as I am running venus maha dasa. It was said we would not like to strengthen a dushtana lord especially in the 8th and given the fact that my health is very bad? Did make sense to me. But I am wearing it again as I feel better wearing it? Is it because of the comfort it gives due to familiarity? I was not very much bothered all these days, but given the extreme situation of my health I am not taking chances. Please advise. Regards nalini vedic astrology, yobrevol wrote: > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Namaste Bharat ji, > > It was a very beautiful explanation. > > You are older in age, experience and knowledge, and are ( in my perception) > a guiding soul for someone like me, so I used Bhayia... > > You really think Cubic Zirconia work as a substitute for Diamond? > > Namaste > Gaurav Jain > > In a message dated 2/16/2006 3:41:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > hinduastrology writes: > > Namaskaar Sri Gaurav > > Debilitation break the seizing effect of the grahas. Suppose Jupiter is > debilitated, this means the person will not have attachment with the > Perceptor or Guru or Tradition or Norms of the Society. Now if there are > criminal tendencies in such a person, debilitation of Guru is bad and > efforts should be made to strengthen it. If there are spiritual tendencies > in a person, then debilitation of Guru is better as it will help in finding > solace within oneself. > > When Jupiter is debilitated, one becomes experimental and he tends to > question dharma. The important thing to understand is, why does a person > question dharma? > > Here we require the Veda to understand the same: > An individual dislikes limitation and wants to be free. Why does a person > want to be free? It is because freedom is natural to us. Why do we want to > be happy? We want it because it is natural to us. > > How do we say that Happiness is Natural to us? - Because we do not complain > when we are happy and Anything natural is not a matter for complaint. That > is why we do not complain when our eyes see because sight is natural to > eyes. So it should be understood that our nature is Happiness itself and > Freedom itself. The Veda tell us why is it so too. I would reserve from > saying anymore. > > Coming back to Jupiter, when one does adharma- it is his "misdirected want" > to be free. He considers Dharma as a binding upon himself. He does not > understand that working through Dharma, he will be able to calm his mind and > take to more meditative knowledge. If Jupiter is unaspected, the person will > take this route and falter, suffer and come to understand dharma. If Jupiter > is exalted, then the person will be so adhering to dharma that he might just > get over attached to its application in society. He would want to be seen as > a dharmic figure. Here, the seizing effect will be very strong. So the > society will offer him goodness, popularity and he will be engaged and > seized by it. Remember what Yama offers Nachiketa before giving him Brahma > Vidya! > > So we need to check this at spiritual level and mental level. Breaking of > attachment is good for spirituality. On a mental and societal level such a > result is not considered good. Now, if there were no malefic influence over > Jupiter, I would not prescribe the gemstone instead I would ask the > individual to do seva in a Shiva or a Vishnu Temple. As gain in spirituality > will ultimately lead to benefit of mental and societal planes too. It is > important to see, how Jupiter is placed, whether or not it has malefic > lordship and also the nakshatra linkages of the chart. > > Now, most importantly, gemstone presricption should never be done such that > life of the native is harmed in any way. > > I like your example - "All things assumed constant" , this isn't physics > that you can bring in pi the constant. This is what we used to do while > studying engineering. > > Nonethess, 2nd lordship of Jupiter is partly undesirable. The 2nd house lord > needs support to bring its results, while the 5th is a good house and is > independent. In such a case, if Jupiter's guna is not disturbed and > nakshatra linkages are okay, Pukhraj can be prescribed. If Jupiter is with > malefic grahas or its Guna is modified, then, it is not suitable. If one is > unsure, then best to use Yantra with the Gemstone. This I have found working > in many many cases. > > What Sri Sudhir pointed out was right, one cannot prescribe gemstone with > eyes closed just on the basis of being a Yogakaraka or a Lagnesh. > > Now check what he says about Mercury and Emerald. Emerald did suit him > partially, but I wouldn't suggest him the same as it is a powerful Markesh. > It can bring death suddenly. Those who tend to strength the Sasha > Mahapurusha Yoga in his chart can only do so at his life's peril. 6th Lord > with markesh drishti on Self. Seventh Lord, itself a Markesh. Who in his > right mind would prescribe a Blue Sapphire for Sri Sudhir? > > I view Grahas very different and many may not fully agree to the views about > Exalted Grahas and Debilitated Grahas. > > Btw, what is Bhaiya doing in front of my name? You are making me sound old. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > > > > On 2/16/06, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Namaste Bharat Bhayia, > > > > I was reading your message below, and would like to ask a question...you > > say > > that we never prescribe a gem for a planet in debilitation, however, > > should > > we actually do that so that the planet will come out of debilitation?... > > ex, > > for scorpio lagna jupiter is 2nd and 5th lord in 3rd house > > debilitated...now > > all things assumed constant, should we not say that the native actually > > install a jyotish quality yellow sapphire? > > > > Kindly enlighten? > > Namaste > > gaurav jain > > CC: fellow students in SJC-africa list... > > > > a message dated 2/15/2006 3:30:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > hinduastrology writes: > > > > Namaskaar Sri Sudhir > > > > For this chart and for the current dasha, I would advise chanting of > > Mahamritunjya Mantra. > > > > Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level > > and stress increased when i worn it. > > Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants > > Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my > > opponents rather than me > > Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. > > > > As per my understanding, never wear a gem of a dusthana lord or any graha > > in > > dusthana or in debilitation. This applies to both Rasi and Navamsa chart. > > Sun is in 12th and in 6th in Navamsa. Mars in Rahu's nakshatra and with > > Rahu. Rahu is a great problem creator for Leo lagna. Jupiter is > > debilitated > > in Navamsa. In one of Sri K. N. Rao's books it is suggested that 5th lord > > is > > not conducive to the 10th house (because of 8th lordship from the 5th). I > > do > > remember reading this someplace but I may be mistaken about the author. > > In > > any case Yellow Sapphire is no-no for you. Instead a Citrine Crystal > > (about > > 1/100th the cost of a Yellow Sapphire) should be kept in the wealth box > > or > > in the left deepest corner of your house. > > > > Venus is with Rahu and it is also under Kendradhipati dosha, besides > > being > > the 3rd lord. > > > > Even if you were to wear a Ruby, it should have been set in Copper or > > Gold > > plated Besa Yantra and worn after requisite pujas. > > > > My advise is that no to spend anymore money on Gems and start chanting of > > Mahamritunjya Mantra. Please visit Lord Krishna's temple on every > > Wednesday > > and Saturday and chant "Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya" 108 times in the > > Temple. > > > > Hope the above is helpful. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/15/06, sudhir_panda_bbsr <sudhir_panda_bbsr wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gem experts > > > > > > I have difficulties to find a suitable gem for overall improvement of > > > my career and life. Some suggested me to wear ruby since i am leo > > > ascendant some suggested to wear coral since mars is yogakaraka, some > > > suggested me to use yelow saphire since jupitor is in my career house > > > and also the lord of 5th and some suggested me to use dimond as venus > > > is rasi lord. I spent lot of money to take those advice and also to > > > buy good quality gems. none gave me desired results rather some of > > > them gave trouble. > > > Please find my birth details below and I will appreciate it if you > > > could suggest a good gem for me. Here are my resons why the above gems > > > should not work for me. Let me know your remarks. > > > > > > Ruby: Sun though lagna lord is in 12th; no wonder my colosterol level > > > and stress increased when i worn it. > > > Coral: Mars is also badhaka for leo ascendants > > > Yellow Saphaire: Well Jupitor is also 8th lord so it helped my > > > opponents rather than me > > > Diamond: Venus is with Rahu; more litigations than reolving those. > > > > > > So I feel it is not appropriate to recommend a gem based on ascendant > > > or a yogakarak planet. > > > > > > Birth details > > > DOB: 15 August 1964 > > > TOB: 7:12 > > > POB: Bhubaneswar 85.25E, 20.15N > > > > > > thanks. > > > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... 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