Why are interpretations so different? (To Ms. Swatisonee)

[Guest guest]

Dear Swaatiji:

 

I do not want to analyse the horoscope again and give a 4th opinion!

Jokes apart......Though you have written you got 3 different answers.

.....kindly go over the predictions again.....all seem to concur with

one point....i.e., there is affliction to the marriage prospects...is

it not? In fact the 2nd reading indicates problems in marital life

and hints at the possibility of remaining unmarried, and the 3rd

reading is emphatic in saying that the native will be unmarried. The

first person has suggested a remedial course which he obviously would

not have done if he had not foreseen the problem with marital

prospects. Maybe, the technical jargon seems different to you, but

they have all concurred in their views.

 

If planetary aspects deny marriage, and still the native wants to get

married....what is the option? The best option will be to seek

Spiritual intervention by doing appropriate remedies like chanting

auspicious chapters from religious works, visiting temples reputed to

grant marital bliss, etc. We can reap only what we sow......If our

horoscope denotes that we have not sown enough to reap regarding a

particular aspect of life, we have to make an effort to sow good deeds

at least in this life with a clear mind.

 

Remedies are definitely not like an electric switch that we can put on

and assume that things will happen by themselves. Performance of

remedies requires intense application of mind, sincerity of purpose,

purity of intentions and deeds, and above all - the sincere acceptance

that we are suffering due to our own past karmas and total surrender

to Divine Providence. If proper remedies are performed with the above

attitudes, Fate may change due to Divine Intervention. Or,,,,in the

worst eventuality of our wishes not being granted inspite of the

remedies performed, at least our karmic debts would have been repayed!

 

May Divine Grace grant your wish.

 

Blessed be.

 

Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

 

vedic astrology, "swatisonee" <swatisonee wrote:

>

> We had refferd to 3 persons and they have given 3 answers all of

> which seem different from each other. This was 2 years ago.

> Incidentally, marriage has still not taken place. Whom do we believe

> please ?

>

> For your ready reference, the birth data is POB:Bombay, TOB:

> 3.45 PM , DOB: 19/8/69., Female

>

> Thanks in advance.

> Swati

>

> A. First Interpretion.

> Chart has a severe affliction..Lagna is Dhanu and 7th is

> occupied by Shukra who is 6th and 11th lord which is a malefic for

> this chart.2nd and 3rd lord Shani who is also another malefic for

> this chart is debilitated in 5th and aspects Shukra,the Vivaha

> Karaka.Rahu who is very strong in 3rd house of Kumbha Rashi also

> aspects Shukra.7th lord Budha is in 7th house but is in a lower

> longitude than Ketu,so Ketu is eclipsing Budha and this is also a

> major affliction.8th house is Mangalya Sthana in a female's chart

> and its lord Chandra is in 11th aspected by debilitated malefic

> Shani.7th house lord Budha's Navamshadhipaty Kuja is in 12th in

> Rashi chart along with Mandi.UL which is in Kumbha rashi is occupied

> by Rahu, a malefic.Also when seen from Bhava point of view,Rahu goes

> to 4th house which is Sukha Sthana and Ketu goes to 10th house and

> afflicts Guru.The chart has severe Kuja Dosha. See Kuja with Mandi

> is in 12th from Lagna,2nd from Chandra and this is one of the major

> afflictions to get married.In the Navamsha Kuja with Ketu in 6th is

> aspected by Rahu indicating Severe Sarpa Dosha.Also Shani who is in

> his enemic sign of Simha aspects Mandi in Tula and this indicates

> Preta Shaapa.Shukra is 6th and 11th lord in 7th house which is

> aspected by debilitated malefic Shani and so because of severe

> afflictions in the chart ,her marriage did not take place in any of

> the said periods.

> At present Shani - Chandra is going on till 30-10-2004 and checking

> on transit Guru is in Simha transitting over her 7th lord Budha, 9th

> lord Surya and Ketu,aspecting Rahu and Dasha lord Shani also.So if

> the above remedies are done at the earliest,marrigae is possible

> before August 28th of 2004.

> As 7th from Shukra is Dhanu which is a Dwiswbhava Rashi , her

> husband comes from east of her birth place and the time to reach her

> husband's place of birth will be nearer to that of hers.

>

> B)Second interpretation .

>

> She has Saggitarius ascendant having Rahu in 3rd, Saturn in 5th,

> Venus in 7th, Sun-Mer-Ketu in 9th, Jupiter in 10th, Moon in 11th &

> Mars in 12th. The lagna lord is placed in 10th and dispositor of it

> Mercury is in 9th with Sun and Ketu getting aspect from Rahu so

> becomes weak. The lagna is in Ketu constellation and Ketu is in 9th

> aspecting lagna. So the lagna lord, its dispositor and constellation

> dispositor are weak. Lagna lord is in enemical sign Virgo. Now come

> to her marriage point of view. She is going through Saturn mahadasha

> since April 1992 and currently under Saturn/Moon upto Nov 2004.

> Saturn is debilited and placed in 5th aspecting 7th house, Rahu also

> aspecting 7th house and its lord Mercury also, Mars aspecting 7th

> house. So there is triple affliction to 7th house making her

> unmarried till date. The balance of Saturn mahadasha is still almost

> 7 years and considerably delaying and even denying the marriage.

> Even if the marriage happens which is unlikely then there goes to be

> problem in the marriage life. suggest appease Saturn.

>

> C) Third

>

> Houses 2 (Sani), 4 (Guru), 9 (Surya) and 12 (Kuja) are

> aspected/occupied by own lords, which is good. Lord of 9 is

> swakshetra, and so is lord of 12th. The former gives good luck

> and fortune, while the latter confers Vipareeta Raja Yoga.

>

> On the negative side, Sani is fallen in 5th house, and Sani dasa

> is running until 2008. Sani gets Neecha Banga because it is

> opposite Chandra, but this is not sufficient to completely

> overcome all ills. It just dilutes the venom.

>

> Regarding marriage--Sukra is karaka, and is in 7th, house of

> marriage. This is not good. Also, Sukra's dispositor, Budha, is

> very close to Ketu. The nodes tend to eclipse any planet and

> causes them to lose potency. The 7th house is also aspected by

> Sani, which causes delay.

>

> Marriage was possible in 1999 because of Sani-Sukra Dasa.

> Marriage takes place in dasa of (a) planet in 7, (b) lord of 7

> and © planet aspecting 7. There is possibility in end 2004-end

> 2005 because of Sani Dasa - Kuja Bukti, since both are aspecting

> the 7th.

> Using Sarvato Bhadra Chakra, I found that Star, Tithi, Day,

> Name, and Lagna of birth are all afflicted by malefics, which is

> enormously grave. The only benefics in sight are Budh (Tithi)

> and Guru (Lagna).

>

> Regarding important stars, Janma Nakshtra (1) [Ketu], Karma

> Nakshtra (10) [Ketu, Surya], Vinash Nakshtra (23) [Kuja], and

> Manas Nakstra (25) [sani] are afflicted, causing a lot of

> difficulties. These are somewhat mitigated by the benefics--Uday

> Nakshtra (18) [sukra], Vinash Nakshtra (23) [budh], and Abhishek

> Nakshatra (27) [sukra].

>

> Native will never get married.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir (Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.)

 

As a lay person, one goes by the words of the learned like you.

Following the 1st interpretation, we sincerely performed all the

poojas etc based on the foll. statement

 

As 7th from Shukra is Dhanu which is a Dwiswbhava Rashi , her

husband comes from east of her birth place and the time to reach her

husband's place of birth will be nearer to that of hers.

 

 

Also, see this statement in 3rd interpretation -

 

Marriage was possible in 1999 because of Sani-Sukra Dasa.

Marriage takes place in dasa of (a) planet in 7, (b) lord of 7

and © planet aspecting 7. There is possibility in end 2004-end

2005 because of Sani Dasa - Kuja Bukti, since both are aspecting

the 7th.

 

 

While the native is good natured and full of life and helping

others, there is always the feeling of being the "last man

standing" - no amount of rationale that "karmic debts would have

been repayed!" can console this feeling - and with another 30-40-50

years of being alone , it can be a terrible feeling that must be

understood.

 

Regards : SWati

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer"

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Dear Swaatiji:

>

> I do not want to analyse the horoscope again and give a 4th

opinion!

> Jokes apart......Though you have written you got 3 different

answers.

> ....kindly go over the predictions again.....all seem to concur

with

> one point....i.e., there is affliction to the marriage

prospects...is

> it not? In fact the 2nd reading indicates problems in marital

life

> and hints at the possibility of remaining unmarried, and the 3rd

> reading is emphatic in saying that the native will be unmarried.

The

> first person has suggested a remedial course which he obviously

would

> not have done if he had not foreseen the problem with marital

> prospects. Maybe, the technical jargon seems different to you, but

> they have all concurred in their views.

>

> If planetary aspects deny marriage, and still the native wants to

get

> married....what is the option? The best option will be to seek

> Spiritual intervention by doing appropriate remedies like chanting

> auspicious chapters from religious works, visiting temples reputed

to

> grant marital bliss, etc. We can reap only what we sow......If

our

> horoscope denotes that we have not sown enough to reap regarding a

> particular aspect of life, we have to make an effort to sow good

deeds

> at least in this life with a clear mind.

>

> Remedies are definitely not like an electric switch that we can

put on

> and assume that things will happen by themselves. Performance of

> remedies requires intense application of mind, sincerity of

purpose,

> purity of intentions and deeds, and above all - the sincere

acceptance

> that we are suffering due to our own past karmas and total

surrender

> to Divine Providence. If proper remedies are performed with the

above

> attitudes, Fate may change due to Divine Intervention. Or,,,,in

the

> worst eventuality of our wishes not being granted inspite of the

> remedies performed, at least our karmic debts would have been

repayed!

>

> May Divine Grace grant your wish.

>

> Blessed be.

>

> Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

[Guest guest]

Dear Ms.Swaati:

 

You do not understand the burden in the heart that an astrologer will

feel when he is analysing a horoscope that seems to offer no hope at

all regarding an aspect of life. It is not that we do not understand

the pain of the client, but what can we do? The double-blind

situation of an astrologer is such that, he cannot express his

feelings to the client; the client has to live with only his problems,

while the astrologer carries the emotional baggage of so many clients

on any given day.

 

Even when things look bleak, the astrologer will try to speculate and

try to suggest some remedy or the other to try and see if that could

make a change. There are many who suggest remedies altruistically (

i.e., the astrologer will gain nothing by performance of the remedies

by the client.....for example, visits to some temples by the client is

not going to benefit the astrologer.) You must take remedies

suggested by that astrologer in that sense, i.e., the noble soul is

trying to suggest some way to reduce your sufferings. But,

unfortunately, most clients express the opinion that "all said

something......but nothing worked", as if it is the fault of the

astrologers that these people are suffering. Is the astrologer God to

change your fate? Try to understand when an astrologer gives words

such as "possibility of marriage in such and such Dasaa and Bhukti" it

is to put the weight of his/ her vaak phalitha behind the client so

that at least due to the effect of the good words spoken with

sincerity, the client should get some good thing in life. The

astrologer is in effect hinting to the Divine Powers that be, that

this event can materialize within the parameters of astrology at such

and such major/sub period. It is almost like a lawyer pleading his

case before a judge citing points in the law statues.....But,

ultimately it is up to the Judge (God) to give the verdict, and the

Judge mostly knows better! As I went through the analysis of the 3

astrologers you have given, I could clearly make out, that ALL 3 OF

THEM WERE CORRECT. In fact, if you had read between the lines, you

would have clearly seen the writing on the wall.....Only difference is

that some one has tried to sugar-coat his predictions and tried to

suggest the remedies, one had camouflaged the negative indications,

while the 3rd person has stated the obvious explicitly. I do not know

who those 3 astrologers are....But, whoever they are, you must

understand they have done their best within the limitations of this

subject to give you an analysis.

 

I can understand your pain.....Never make the mistake of thinking that

astrologers do not understand the pain of clients......If I had not

understood your anxiety, I would not have responded to your mail at

all.....What do I stand to gain by responding to you? Tell me.....You

are not even my client......To give words of comfort and to help the

native look at karmic factors in life with equanimity is the mission

of an astrologer.

 

Still, let me tell you.....Divine Mercy can change Fate to a great

extent. Read the lives of saints, and bhaktas......Come and see the

offices of good astrologers, and have a discussion with their long-

term clients.....you will hear many instances of miracles happening in

everyday life when astrological indications had actually been very

bleak! Keep praying with sincerity for grant of your wish with an

attitude of surrender......When Karmic influences are affecting you,

saying that "I do not deserve that" is akin to contempt to court

(Fate) which might invite more trouble; Try to apply for clemency

instead. Accept that you might be possibly suffering due to your bad

karmas, and request Divine Mercy to get you out of the mess you are

in.......Miracles happen ONLY when you have an attitude of surrender.

.....You cannot command Fate! God is the refuge for all troubled souls

and you will receive comfort from God.

 

There might be places in this mail where I might have been a little

hard on you....But, to hurt you is not my intention.....I have only

tried to throw a light on some aspects which you seem to refuse to

see! I just wanted to make things clear to you as you seemed to be

oblivious to the hints that had been conveyed very diplomatically to

you by the people whom you have consulted.

 

 

Blessed be.

 

vedic astrology, "swatisonee" <swatisonee

wrote:

>

> Dear Sir (Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.)

>

> As a lay person, one goes by the words of the learned like you.

> Following the 1st interpretation, we sincerely performed all the

> poojas etc based on the foll. statement

>

> As 7th from Shukra is Dhanu which is a Dwiswbhava Rashi , her

> husband comes from east of her birth place and the time to reach her

> husband's place of birth will be nearer to that of hers.

>

>

> Also, see this statement in 3rd interpretation -

>

> Marriage was possible in 1999 because of Sani-Sukra Dasa.

> Marriage takes place in dasa of (a) planet in 7, (b) lord of 7

> and © planet aspecting 7. There is possibility in end 2004-end

> 2005 because of Sani Dasa - Kuja Bukti, since both are aspecting

> the 7th.

>

>

> While the native is good natured and full of life and helping

> others, there is always the feeling of being the "last man

> standing" - no amount of rationale that "karmic debts would have

> been repayed!" can console this feeling - and with another 30-40-50

> years of being alone , it can be a terrible feeling that must be

> understood.

>

> Regards : SWati

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer"

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Swaatiji:

> >

> > I do not want to analyse the horoscope again and give a 4th

> opinion!

> > Jokes apart......Though you have written you got 3 different

> answers.

> > ....kindly go over the predictions again.....all seem to concur

> with

> > one point....i.e., there is affliction to the marriage

> prospects...is

> > it not? In fact the 2nd reading indicates problems in marital

> life

> > and hints at the possibility of remaining unmarried, and the 3rd

> > reading is emphatic in saying that the native will be unmarried.

> The

> > first person has suggested a remedial course which he obviously

> would

> > not have done if he had not foreseen the problem with marital

> > prospects. Maybe, the technical jargon seems different to you, but

> > they have all concurred in their views.

> >

> > If planetary aspects deny marriage, and still the native wants to

> get

> > married....what is the option? The best option will be to seek

> > Spiritual intervention by doing appropriate remedies like chanting

> > auspicious chapters from religious works, visiting temples reputed

> to

> > grant marital bliss, etc. We can reap only what we sow......If

> our

> > horoscope denotes that we have not sown enough to reap regarding a

> > particular aspect of life, we have to make an effort to sow good

> deeds

> > at least in this life with a clear mind.

> >

> > Remedies are definitely not like an electric switch that we can

> put on

> > and assume that things will happen by themselves. Performance of

> > remedies requires intense application of mind, sincerity of

> purpose,

> > purity of intentions and deeds, and above all - the sincere

> acceptance

> > that we are suffering due to our own past karmas and total

> surrender

> > to Divine Providence. If proper remedies are performed with the

> above

> > attitudes, Fate may change due to Divine Intervention. Or,,,,in

> the

> > worst eventuality of our wishes not being granted inspite of the

> > remedies performed, at least our karmic debts would have been

> repayed!

> >

> > May Divine Grace grant your wish.

> >

> > Blessed be.

> >

> > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

>