Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, 1. It is said that "if a planet is in a Bhava Sandhi it is utterly powerless and the results it produces are practically nill." 2. But again the maximum exaltation position of Mars is 28 degrees in Makara and of Venus 27 degrees in Meena.Thus these 2 planets will be extremely powerful near the Bhava Sandhis. Well, aren't these 2 statements contradictory? Blessings Renu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Dear Renuji: "Bhava Sandhi" is different from "Rasi Sandhi". Bhava Sandhi means near the junction of two different bhavas (houses). Rasi sandhi means junction point of two raasis. The cases you mentioned may be said to be in raasi sandhi, and you cannot say surely they are in bhava sandhi also. In bhava sandhi, the influence of the two houses may interplay thus rendering the planet incapable of producing clear results. That is why, it is believed that a planet in a Bhava Sandhi is utterly powerless. But, again, this effect is there only if the planet concerned is very close to the junction of the houses to the extent that even a slight change in birth time say a few minutes can change the house position of the planet. Now, a controversy may arise...... according which system you should demarcate the bhavas?.....Is it poryphry's method of houses, Placidus, Radiant, Regiomontanus, or any other?..... So, kindly do not get confused about this at all......The exaltation points of planets at a particular degree of a sign are astronomicaland it has been found from practical experience of many astrologers over many eras that planets in their degrees of exaltation are very powerful. In astrology, there are so many seemingly contradictory rules and dogmas......This is where the analytical ability and intuition of an astrologer come to play an important role in the final delineation. Human life is complicated.....and astrological dogmas - the keys to unlock the secrets of human life will naturally be complicated. We have to balance various views and then come to the final decision. May Divine Grace guide us all. Blessed be. Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic- astrology, "renunw" <renunw wrote: > > Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, > > 1. It is said that "if a planet is in a Bhava Sandhi it is utterly > powerless and the results it produces are practically nill." > > 2. But again the maximum exaltation position of Mars is 28 degrees in > Makara and of Venus 27 degrees in Meena.Thus these 2 planets will be > extremely powerful near the Bhava Sandhis. > > Well, aren't these 2 statements contradictory? > > Blessings > > Renu > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Gurver, This is a very interesting topic that you have brought forth and has been confusing me for long. If somebody has Lagna as 29Degree Capricorn, upto what sign will his first bhava be considered in the Bhava Chakra? Am I missing the whole point or am I heading towards the right direction. Please enlighten us. Regards, Souvik vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Renuji: > > "Bhava Sandhi" is different from "Rasi Sandhi". Bhava Sandhi means > near the junction of two different bhavas (houses). Rasi sandhi means > junction point of two raasis. The cases you mentioned may be said to > be in raasi sandhi, and you cannot say surely they are in bhava sandhi > also. > > In bhava sandhi, the influence of the two houses may interplay thus > rendering the planet incapable of producing clear results. That is > why, it is believed that a planet in a Bhava Sandhi is utterly > powerless. But, again, this effect is there only if the planet > concerned is very close to the junction of the houses to the extent > that even a slight change in birth time say a few minutes can change > the house position of the planet. Now, a controversy may arise...... > according which system you should demarcate the bhavas?.....Is it > poryphry's method of houses, Placidus, Radiant, Regiomontanus, or any > other?..... > > So, kindly do not get confused about this at all......The exaltation > points of planets at a particular degree of a sign are astronomicaland > it has been found from practical experience of many astrologers over > many eras that planets in their degrees of exaltation are very > powerful. > > In astrology, there are so many seemingly contradictory rules and > dogmas......This is where the analytical ability and intuition of an > astrologer come to play an important role in the final delineation. > Human life is complicated.....and astrological dogmas - the keys to > unlock the secrets of human life will naturally be complicated. We > have to balance various views and then come to the final decision. > > May Divine Grace guide us all. > > Blessed be. > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > vedic- > astrology, "renunw" <renunw@> wrote: > > > > Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, > > > > 1. It is said that "if a planet is in a Bhava Sandhi it is utterly > > powerless and the results it produces are practically nill." > > > > 2. But again the maximum exaltation position of Mars is 28 degrees > in > > Makara and of Venus 27 degrees in Meena.Thus these 2 planets will be > > extremely powerful near the Bhava Sandhis. > > > > Well, aren't these 2 statements contradictory? > > > > Blessings > > > > Renu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Dear Student Souvik: In the Western Equal houses system, the first bhava will be from Capricorn 29th degree to Aquarius 29th degree (They assume the rising degree of the ascendant to be the starting point of the lagna); According to the Vedic Equal houses system, the 29th Degree of Capricorn will be deemed to be the middle of the bhava, and so the 1st bhava will be deemed to extend from Capricorn 15 degrees and extend till Aquarius 15th degree...... In vedic signs as houses sytem (this is the method that is generally used in Naadi system of astrology also), the whole sign Capricorn will be considered to be the first bhava, aquarius as the second bhava, etc. An analogy from real life will explain how this method is logical........Suppose, a person is born just 100 metres from the border of a country, do we assume that his birth country comprises of 100 metres of this country and some 3 kms. into the next country also? Obviously not....is it not? In the same way, I feel, if a person is born in a sign, the whole sign is his birth sign.....Probably the influence of the next sign may be felt to some extent like for example, persons living in the border areas of any state have an inter-mix of culture with the people of neighbouring states, while those living in the heartland of a state generally tend to have exclusive culture of their home states.....But still, when the issue of domicility/ legality comes, they come under the purview of the laws of the state within whose borders they reside,is it not?.....I do not know if I have made my point clear....or I have muddled the already muddled waters further....Maybe, some other person may be able to clear it further.... By Poryphyry's system, 29th Degree of Capricorn (the rising degree given in your mail) will be somewhere in the middle of the First Bhava, but not necessarily in the middle of the bhava....... The use of Bhaava Chaalit seems to have gained currency only in medieval periods, but it cannot be denied that sometimes the use of bhaava chaalit drawn as per Indian methods (Dividing the arc between Midheaven and ascendant into 3 parts and finding the extent of houses) does explain some paradoxes in a horoscope that cannot be normally explained with the use of just raasi chakra. I personally feel the vedic signs as houses system is a more natural one and this combined with the use of the varga charts will explain most things in a person's life. Ofcourse, intuition and God's Grace helps some astrologers to give accurate predictions even based on wrong data; I have had my own experience with a Pandit (before I became an astrologer myself) like that; Someone had done some minor errors in planetary placements in my chart....yet, the astrologer - an elderly Upaasakaa of Lord Hanuman - on seeing that chart predicted that I will become an astrologer myself next year and laughed aloud! (Because, my parents had gone to ask him about my career which was stormy at that period; my parents at that point of time never knew I had acquired proficiency in astrology by independent study and research!) And lo! His prediction was so accurate both in terms of time of the event and the accuracy of the prediction. Mathematical or astronomical accuracy of charts is not a matter at all for such persons.....the chart presented to them serves the role of a crystal ball only! They focus their minds and derive the predictions seemingly out of nowhere......I think I have strayed too far away from the original thread and hence will stop with this!: ))) Blessed be. Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic astrology, "Souvik Dutta" <explore_vulcan wrote: > > Gurver, > > This is a very interesting topic that you have brought forth and has > been confusing me for long. > > If somebody has Lagna as 29Degree Capricorn, upto what sign will his > first bhava be considered in the Bhava Chakra? > > Am I missing the whole point or am I heading towards the right > direction. > > Please enlighten us. > > Regards, > > Souvik > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear Renuji: > > > > "Bhava Sandhi" is different from "Rasi Sandhi". Bhava Sandhi > means > > near the junction of two different bhavas (houses). Rasi sandhi > means > > junction point of two raasis. The cases you mentioned may be said > to > > be in raasi sandhi, and you cannot say surely they are in bhava > sandhi > > also. > > > > In bhava sandhi, the influence of the two houses may interplay > thus > > rendering the planet incapable of producing clear results. That is > > why, it is believed that a planet in a Bhava Sandhi is utterly > > powerless. But, again, this effect is there only if the planet > > concerned is very close to the junction of the houses to the > extent > > that even a slight change in birth time say a few minutes can > change > > the house position of the planet. Now, a controversy may > arise...... > > according which system you should demarcate the bhavas?.....Is it > > poryphry's method of houses, Placidus, Radiant, Regiomontanus, or > any > > other?..... > > > > So, kindly do not get confused about this at all......The > exaltation > > points of planets at a particular degree of a sign are > astronomicaland > > it has been found from practical experience of many astrologers > over > > many eras that planets in their degrees of exaltation are very > > powerful. > > > > In astrology, there are so many seemingly contradictory rules and > > dogmas......This is where the analytical ability and intuition of > an > > astrologer come to play an important role in the final > delineation. > > Human life is complicated.....and astrological dogmas - the keys > to > > unlock the secrets of human life will naturally be complicated. > We > > have to balance various views and then come to the final decision. > > > > May Divine Grace guide us all. > > > > Blessed be. > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > vedic- > > astrology, "renunw" <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, > > > > > > 1. It is said that "if a planet is in a Bhava Sandhi it is > utterly > > > powerless and the results it produces are practically nill." > > > > > > 2. But again the maximum exaltation position of Mars is 28 > degrees > > in > > > Makara and of Venus 27 degrees in Meena.Thus these 2 planets > will be > > > extremely powerful near the Bhava Sandhis. > > > > > > Well, aren't these 2 statements contradictory? > > > > > > Blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Dear Guruver, Crystal clear By the way, let us stray sometimes, that is how learners like me will benefit! Regards, Souvik vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Student Souvik: > > In the Western Equal houses system, the first bhava will be from > Capricorn 29th degree to Aquarius 29th degree (They assume the rising > degree of the ascendant to be the starting point of the lagna); > According to the Vedic Equal houses system, the 29th Degree of > Capricorn will be deemed to be the middle of the bhava, and so the 1st > bhava will be deemed to extend from Capricorn 15 degrees and extend > till Aquarius 15th degree...... > > In vedic signs as houses sytem (this is the method that is generally > used in Naadi system of astrology also), the whole sign Capricorn will > be considered to be the first bhava, aquarius as the second bhava, > etc. An analogy from real life will explain how this method is > logical........Suppose, a person is born just 100 metres from the > border of a country, do we assume that his birth country comprises of > 100 metres of this country and some 3 kms. into the next country also? > Obviously not....is it not? In the same way, I feel, if a person is > born in a sign, the whole sign is his birth sign.....Probably the > influence of the next sign may be felt to some extent like for > example, persons living in the border areas of any state have an > inter-mix of culture with the people of neighbouring states, while > those living in the heartland of a state generally tend to have > exclusive culture of their home states.....But still, when the issue > of domicility/ legality comes, they come under the purview of the laws > of the state within whose borders they reside,is it not?.....I do not > know if I have made my point clear....or I have muddled the already > muddled waters further....Maybe, some other person may be able to > clear it further.... > > By Poryphyry's system, 29th Degree of Capricorn (the rising degree > given in your mail) will be somewhere in the middle of the First > Bhava, but not necessarily in the middle of the bhava....... > > The use of Bhaava Chaalit seems to have gained currency only in > medieval periods, but it cannot be denied that sometimes the use of > bhaava chaalit drawn as per Indian methods (Dividing the arc between > Midheaven and ascendant into 3 parts and finding the extent of houses) > does explain some paradoxes in a horoscope that cannot be normally > explained with the use of just raasi chakra. I personally feel the > vedic signs as houses system is a more natural one and this combined > with the use of the varga charts will explain most things in a > person's life. > > Ofcourse, intuition and God's Grace helps some astrologers to give > accurate predictions even based on wrong data; I have had my own > experience with a Pandit (before I became an astrologer myself) like > that; Someone had done some minor errors in planetary placements in my > chart....yet, the astrologer - an elderly Upaasakaa of Lord Hanuman - > on seeing that chart predicted that I will become an astrologer myself > next year and laughed aloud! (Because, my parents had gone to ask him > about my career which was stormy at that period; my parents at that > point of time never knew I had acquired proficiency in astrology by > independent study and research!) And lo! His prediction was so > accurate both in terms of time of the event and the accuracy of the > prediction. Mathematical or astronomical accuracy of charts is not a > matter at all for such persons.....the chart presented to them serves > the role of a crystal ball only! They focus their minds and derive > the predictions seemingly out of nowhere......I think I have strayed > too far away from the original thread and hence will stop with this!: > ))) > > Blessed be. > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > vedic astrology, "Souvik Dutta" > <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > Gurver, > > > > This is a very interesting topic that you have brought forth and has > > been confusing me for long. > > > > If somebody has Lagna as 29Degree Capricorn, upto what sign will his > > first bhava be considered in the Bhava Chakra? > > > > Am I missing the whole point or am I heading towards the right > > direction. > > > > Please enlighten us. > > > > Regards, > > > > Souvik > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Renuji: > > > > > > "Bhava Sandhi" is different from "Rasi Sandhi". Bhava Sandhi > > means > > > near the junction of two different bhavas (houses). Rasi sandhi > > means > > > junction point of two raasis. The cases you mentioned may be said > > to > > > be in raasi sandhi, and you cannot say surely they are in bhava > > sandhi > > > also. > > > > > > In bhava sandhi, the influence of the two houses may interplay > > thus > > > rendering the planet incapable of producing clear results. That is > > > why, it is believed that a planet in a Bhava Sandhi is utterly > > > powerless. But, again, this effect is there only if the planet > > > concerned is very close to the junction of the houses to the > > extent > > > that even a slight change in birth time say a few minutes can > > change > > > the house position of the planet. Now, a controversy may > > arise...... > > > according which system you should demarcate the bhavas?.....Is it > > > poryphry's method of houses, Placidus, Radiant, Regiomontanus, or > > any > > > other?..... > > > > > > So, kindly do not get confused about this at all......The > > exaltation > > > points of planets at a particular degree of a sign are > > astronomicaland > > > it has been found from practical experience of many astrologers > > over > > > many eras that planets in their degrees of exaltation are very > > > powerful. > > > > > > In astrology, there are so many seemingly contradictory rules and > > > dogmas......This is where the analytical ability and intuition of > > an > > > astrologer come to play an important role in the final > > delineation. > > > Human life is complicated.....and astrological dogmas - the keys > > to > > > unlock the secrets of human life will naturally be complicated. > > We > > > have to balance various views and then come to the final decision. > > > > > > May Divine Grace guide us all. > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > vedic- > > > astrology, "renunw" <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, > > > > > > > > 1. It is said that "if a planet is in a Bhava Sandhi it is > > utterly > > > > powerless and the results it produces are practically nill." > > > > > > > > 2. But again the maximum exaltation position of Mars is 28 > > degrees > > > in > > > > Makara and of Venus 27 degrees in Meena.Thus these 2 planets > > will be > > > > extremely powerful near the Bhava Sandhis. > > > > > > > > Well, aren't these 2 statements contradictory? > > > > > > > > Blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, Thank you very much once again for your kind support. I think I see the difference now more clearly. Could you please give me reference for reading on ... "poryphry's method of houses, Placidus, Radiant, Regiomontanus" ... since I do not know much about this. Learned Gurus like you should not leave the forum. We the students of astrology can clear our doubts and gain a vast knowledge from you, Sir. Blessings Renunw vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Renuji: > > "Bhava Sandhi" is different from "Rasi Sandhi". Bhava Sandhi means > near the junction of two different bhavas (houses). Rasi sandhi means > junction point of two raasis. The cases you mentioned may be said to > be in raasi sandhi, and you cannot say surely they are in bhava sandhi > also. > > In bhava sandhi, the influence of the two houses may interplay thus > rendering the planet incapable of producing clear results. That is > why, it is believed that a planet in a Bhava Sandhi is utterly > powerless. But, again, this effect is there only if the planet > concerned is very close to the junction of the houses to the extent > that even a slight change in birth time say a few minutes can change > the house position of the planet. Now, a controversy may arise...... > according which system you should demarcate the bhavas?.....Is it > poryphry's method of houses, Placidus, Radiant, Regiomontanus, or any > other?..... > > So, kindly do not get confused about this at all......The exaltation > points of planets at a particular degree of a sign are astronomicaland > it has been found from practical experience of many astrologers over > many eras that planets in their degrees of exaltation are very > powerful. > > In astrology, there are so many seemingly contradictory rules and > dogmas......This is where the analytical ability and intuition of an > astrologer come to play an important role in the final delineation. > Human life is complicated.....and astrological dogmas - the keys to > unlock the secrets of human life will naturally be complicated. We > have to balance various views and then come to the final decision. > > May Divine Grace guide us all. > > Blessed be. > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > vedic- > astrology, "renunw" <renunw@> wrote: > > > > Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, > > > > 1. It is said that "if a planet is in a Bhava Sandhi it is utterly > > powerless and the results it produces are practically nill." > > > > 2. But again the maximum exaltation position of Mars is 28 degrees > in > > Makara and of Venus 27 degrees in Meena.Thus these 2 planets will be > > extremely powerful near the Bhava Sandhis. > > > > Well, aren't these 2 statements contradictory? > > > > Blessings > > > > Renu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 Dear respected dakshinamoorthyji, A perfect explanation with the help of another of your fine simile! Thank you Sir for sharing your knowledge with us. Blessings Renu vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Student Souvik: > > In the Western Equal houses system, the first bhava will be from > Capricorn 29th degree to Aquarius 29th degree (They assume the rising > degree of the ascendant to be the starting point of the lagna); > According to the Vedic Equal houses system, the 29th Degree of > Capricorn will be deemed to be the middle of the bhava, and so the 1st > bhava will be deemed to extend from Capricorn 15 degrees and extend > till Aquarius 15th degree...... > > In vedic signs as houses sytem (this is the method that is generally > used in Naadi system of astrology also), the whole sign Capricorn will > be considered to be the first bhava, aquarius as the second bhava, > etc. An analogy from real life will explain how this method is > logical........Suppose, a person is born just 100 metres from the > border of a country, do we assume that his birth country comprises of > 100 metres of this country and some 3 kms. into the next country also? > Obviously not....is it not? In the same way, I feel, if a person is > born in a sign, the whole sign is his birth sign.....Probably the > influence of the next sign may be felt to some extent like for > example, persons living in the border areas of any state have an > inter-mix of culture with the people of neighbouring states, while > those living in the heartland of a state generally tend to have > exclusive culture of their home states.....But still, when the issue > of domicility/ legality comes, they come under the purview of the laws > of the state within whose borders they reside,is it not?.....I do not > know if I have made my point clear....or I have muddled the already > muddled waters further....Maybe, some other person may be able to > clear it further.... > > By Poryphyry's system, 29th Degree of Capricorn (the rising degree > given in your mail) will be somewhere in the middle of the First > Bhava, but not necessarily in the middle of the bhava....... > > The use of Bhaava Chaalit seems to have gained currency only in > medieval periods, but it cannot be denied that sometimes the use of > bhaava chaalit drawn as per Indian methods (Dividing the arc between > Midheaven and ascendant into 3 parts and finding the extent of houses) > does explain some paradoxes in a horoscope that cannot be normally > explained with the use of just raasi chakra. I personally feel the > vedic signs as houses system is a more natural one and this combined > with the use of the varga charts will explain most things in a > person's life. > > Ofcourse, intuition and God's Grace helps some astrologers to give > accurate predictions even based on wrong data; I have had my own > experience with a Pandit (before I became an astrologer myself) like > that; Someone had done some minor errors in planetary placements in my > chart....yet, the astrologer - an elderly Upaasakaa of Lord Hanuman - > on seeing that chart predicted that I will become an astrologer myself > next year and laughed aloud! (Because, my parents had gone to ask him > about my career which was stormy at that period; my parents at that > point of time never knew I had acquired proficiency in astrology by > independent study and research!) And lo! His prediction was so > accurate both in terms of time of the event and the accuracy of the > prediction. Mathematical or astronomical accuracy of charts is not a > matter at all for such persons.....the chart presented to them serves > the role of a crystal ball only! They focus their minds and derive > the predictions seemingly out of nowhere......I think I have strayed > too far away from the original thread and hence will stop with this!: > ))) > > Blessed be. > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > vedic astrology, "Souvik Dutta" > <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > Gurver, > > > > This is a very interesting topic that you have brought forth and has > > been confusing me for long. > > > > If somebody has Lagna as 29Degree Capricorn, upto what sign will his > > first bhava be considered in the Bhava Chakra? > > > > Am I missing the whole point or am I heading towards the right > > direction. > > > > Please enlighten us. > > > > Regards, > > > > Souvik > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Renuji: > > > > > > "Bhava Sandhi" is different from "Rasi Sandhi". Bhava Sandhi > > means > > > near the junction of two different bhavas (houses). Rasi sandhi > > means > > > junction point of two raasis. The cases you mentioned may be said > > to > > > be in raasi sandhi, and you cannot say surely they are in bhava > > sandhi > > > also. > > > > > > In bhava sandhi, the influence of the two houses may interplay > > thus > > > rendering the planet incapable of producing clear results. That is > > > why, it is believed that a planet in a Bhava Sandhi is utterly > > > powerless. But, again, this effect is there only if the planet > > > concerned is very close to the junction of the houses to the > > extent > > > that even a slight change in birth time say a few minutes can > > change > > > the house position of the planet. Now, a controversy may > > arise...... > > > according which system you should demarcate the bhavas?.....Is it > > > poryphry's method of houses, Placidus, Radiant, Regiomontanus, or > > any > > > other?..... > > > > > > So, kindly do not get confused about this at all......The > > exaltation > > > points of planets at a particular degree of a sign are > > astronomicaland > > > it has been found from practical experience of many astrologers > > over > > > many eras that planets in their degrees of exaltation are very > > > powerful. > > > > > > In astrology, there are so many seemingly contradictory rules and > > > dogmas......This is where the analytical ability and intuition of > > an > > > astrologer come to play an important role in the final > > delineation. > > > Human life is complicated.....and astrological dogmas - the keys > > to > > > unlock the secrets of human life will naturally be complicated. > > We > > > have to balance various views and then come to the final decision. > > > > > > May Divine Grace guide us all. > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > vedic- > > > astrology, "renunw" <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, > > > > > > > > 1. It is said that "if a planet is in a Bhava Sandhi it is > > utterly > > > > powerless and the results it produces are practically nill." > > > > > > > > 2. But again the maximum exaltation position of Mars is 28 > > degrees > > > in > > > > Makara and of Venus 27 degrees in Meena.Thus these 2 planets > > will be > > > > extremely powerful near the Bhava Sandhis. > > > > > > > > Well, aren't these 2 statements contradictory? > > > > > > > > Blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Dear Renuji: You can refer the book "Table of Ascendants" by Shri. N.C. Lahiri for reference and calculation methods of various house systems. This book can be obtained from "ASTRO-RESEARCH BUREAU, 17, Brindaban Mullick 1st Lane, Kolkata - 700 009." However, kindly do not bother about these technicalities unless you are too research-oriented. Many softwares now-a-days directly give out these house calculations. Yet, it is good to know these if you can learn them. Even after raising the issue many times in this forum, justice has still not been till-date to Shri. Mohanraaam. Though people ask me to exercise patience and try to pacify me, what is the point if justice is not done to Shri.Mohanraaam? I generally do not involve myself in controversies; but when it comes to safeguarding the interests of others who look up to me for guidance, I am very aggressive. That was the reason why I spoke about leaving this forum. I will continue in this forum as many members have requested me to continue guiding them both through open posts and private mails; but definitely I am not too happy about the way one of my well-wishers has been banned. This issue of a person being banned because he supported me when I was attacked in an unjustified manner is a thorn in my heart! I would request the learned members to write to the moderators and get the ban lifted on Shri. Mohanraaam. (mohanraaam). He had been an active contributor in this forum, and he should be allowed to contribute in the future also. This is my request to all concerned. Blessed be. vedic astrology, "renunw" <renunw wrote: > > Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, > > Thank you very much once again for your kind support. I think I see > the difference now more clearly. Could you please give me reference > for reading on ... > > "poryphry's method of houses, Placidus, Radiant, Regiomontanus" ... > > since I do not know much about this. > > Learned Gurus like you should not leave the forum. We the students of > astrology can clear our doubts and gain a vast knowledge from you, > Sir. > > Blessings > > Renunw > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear Renuji: > > > > "Bhava Sandhi" is different from "Rasi Sandhi". Bhava Sandhi means > > near the junction of two different bhavas (houses). Rasi sandhi > means > > junction point of two raasis. The cases you mentioned may be said > to > > be in raasi sandhi, and you cannot say surely they are in bhava > sandhi > > also. > > > > In bhava sandhi, the influence of the two houses may interplay thus > > rendering the planet incapable of producing clear results. That is > > why, it is believed that a planet in a Bhava Sandhi is utterly > > powerless. But, again, this effect is there only if the planet > > concerned is very close to the junction of the houses to the extent > > that even a slight change in birth time say a few minutes can > change > > the house position of the planet. Now, a controversy may > arise...... > > according which system you should demarcate the bhavas?.....Is it > > poryphry's method of houses, Placidus, Radiant, Regiomontanus, or > any > > other?..... > > > > So, kindly do not get confused about this at all......The > exaltation > > points of planets at a particular degree of a sign are > astronomicaland > > it has been found from practical experience of many astrologers > over > > many eras that planets in their degrees of exaltation are very > > powerful. > > > > In astrology, there are so many seemingly contradictory rules and > > dogmas......This is where the analytical ability and intuition of > an > > astrologer come to play an important role in the final > delineation. > > Human life is complicated.....and astrological dogmas - the keys to > > unlock the secrets of human life will naturally be complicated. We > > have to balance various views and then come to the final decision. > > > > May Divine Grace guide us all. > > > > Blessed be. > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > vedic- > > astrology, "renunw" <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, > > > > > > 1. It is said that "if a planet is in a Bhava Sandhi it is > utterly > > > powerless and the results it produces are practically nill." > > > > > > 2. But again the maximum exaltation position of Mars is 28 > degrees > > in > > > Makara and of Venus 27 degrees in Meena.Thus these 2 planets will > be > > > extremely powerful near the Bhava Sandhis. > > > > > > Well, aren't these 2 statements contradictory? > > > > > > Blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Dear All, My 2 cents on this issue. Taking into consideration the value of the contributions of Shri. Dakshinamoorthiji to this forum it would be quite appropriate if the moderators could respect his sentiments and allow Shri. Mohanramji to continue with this forum. I feel, the best way to please a Guru is to respect his sentiments first and then his teachings. This is my personal view and hope others will find stand by me to support the request. Regards Ravi Nair dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: Dear Renuji: You can refer the book "Table of Ascendants" by Shri. N.C. Lahiri for reference and calculation methods of various house systems. This book can be obtained from "ASTRO-RESEARCH BUREAU, 17, Brindaban Mullick 1st Lane, Kolkata - 700 009." However, kindly do not bother about these technicalities unless you are too research-oriented. Many softwares now-a-days directly give out these house calculations. Yet, it is good to know these if you can learn them. Even after raising the issue many times in this forum, justice has still not been till-date to Shri. Mohanraaam. Though people ask me to exercise patience and try to pacify me, what is the point if justice is not done to Shri.Mohanraaam? I generally do not involve myself in controversies; but when it comes to safeguarding the interests of others who look up to me for guidance, I am very aggressive. That was the reason why I spoke about leaving this forum. I will continue in this forum as many members have requested me to continue guiding them both through open posts and private mails; but definitely I am not too happy about the way one of my well-wishers has been banned. This issue of a person being banned because he supported me when I was attacked in an unjustified manner is a thorn in my heart! I would request the learned members to write to the moderators and get the ban lifted on Shri. Mohanraaam. (mohanraaam). He had been an active contributor in this forum, and he should be allowed to contribute in the future also. This is my request to all concerned. Blessed be. vedic astrology, "renunw" <renunw wrote: > > Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, > > Thank you very much once again for your kind support. I think I see > the difference now more clearly. Could you please give me reference > for reading on ... > > "poryphry's method of houses, Placidus, Radiant, Regiomontanus" ... > > since I do not know much about this. > > Learned Gurus like you should not leave the forum. We the students of > astrology can clear our doubts and gain a vast knowledge from you, > Sir. > > Blessings > > Renunw > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear Renuji: > > > > "Bhava Sandhi" is different from "Rasi Sandhi". Bhava Sandhi means > > near the junction of two different bhavas (houses). Rasi sandhi > means > > junction point of two raasis. The cases you mentioned may be said > to > > be in raasi sandhi, and you cannot say surely they are in bhava > sandhi > > also. > > > > In bhava sandhi, the influence of the two houses may interplay thus > > rendering the planet incapable of producing clear results. That is > > why, it is believed that a planet in a Bhava Sandhi is utterly > > powerless. But, again, this effect is there only if the planet > > concerned is very close to the junction of the houses to the extent > > that even a slight change in birth time say a few minutes can > change > > the house position of the planet. Now, a controversy may > arise...... > > according which system you should demarcate the bhavas?.....Is it > > poryphry's method of houses, Placidus, Radiant, Regiomontanus, or > any > > other?..... > > > > So, kindly do not get confused about this at all......The > exaltation > > points of planets at a particular degree of a sign are > astronomicaland > > it has been found from practical experience of many astrologers > over > > many eras that planets in their degrees of exaltation are very > > powerful. > > > > In astrology, there are so many seemingly contradictory rules and > > dogmas......This is where the analytical ability and intuition of > an > > astrologer come to play an important role in the final > delineation. > > Human life is complicated.....and astrological dogmas - the keys to > > unlock the secrets of human life will naturally be complicated. We > > have to balance various views and then come to the final decision. > > > > May Divine Grace guide us all. > > > > Blessed be. > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > vedic- > > astrology, "renunw" <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, > > > > > > 1. It is said that "if a planet is in a Bhava Sandhi it is > utterly > > > powerless and the results it produces are practically nill." > > > > > > 2. But again the maximum exaltation position of Mars is 28 > degrees > > in > > > Makara and of Venus 27 degrees in Meena.Thus these 2 planets will > be > > > extremely powerful near the Bhava Sandhis. > > > > > > Well, aren't these 2 statements contradictory? > > > > > > Blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Travel Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! 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Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, Thanks so much once again. I do understand how you feel about Shri. Mohanraam but I do not understand why the moderators are silent about the whole issue. It is the misfortune of the novices when such learned astrologers are banned from this forum. People like us come here to learn and I don't think it is God's wish to deprive us from any knowledge whenever and wherever it is available. I wish the moderators could be wiser in deciding what to post and what not to post. Blessings renunw vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Renuji: > > You can refer the book "Table of Ascendants" by Shri. N.C. Lahiri for > reference and calculation methods of various house systems. This book > can be obtained from "ASTRO-RESEARCH BUREAU, 17, Brindaban Mullick 1st > Lane, Kolkata - 700 009." > > However, kindly do not bother about these technicalities unless you > are too research-oriented. Many softwares now-a-days directly give > out these house calculations. Yet, it is good to know these if you > can learn them. > > Even after raising the issue many times in this forum, justice has > still not been till-date to Shri. Mohanraaam. Though people ask me to > exercise patience and try to pacify me, what is the point if justice > is not done to Shri.Mohanraaam? I generally do not involve myself in > controversies; but when it comes to safeguarding the interests of > others who look up to me for guidance, I am very aggressive. That was > the reason why I spoke about leaving this forum. I will continue in > this forum as many members have requested me to continue guiding them > both through open posts and private mails; but definitely I am not too > happy about the way one of my well-wishers has been banned. This > issue of a person being banned because he supported me when I was > attacked in an unjustified manner is a thorn in my heart! I would > request the learned members to write to the moderators and get the ban > lifted on Shri. Mohanraaam. (mohanraaam). He had been an > active contributor in this forum, and he should be allowed to > contribute in the future also. This is my request to all concerned. > > Blessed be. > > vedic astrology, "renunw" <renunw@> wrote: > > > > Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, > > > > Thank you very much once again for your kind support. I think I see > > the difference now more clearly. Could you please give me reference > > for reading on ... > > > > "poryphry's method of houses, Placidus, Radiant, Regiomontanus" ... > > > > since I do not know much about this. > > > > Learned Gurus like you should not leave the forum. We the students > of > > astrology can clear our doubts and gain a vast knowledge from you, > > Sir. > > > > Blessings > > > > Renunw > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Renuji: > > > > > > "Bhava Sandhi" is different from "Rasi Sandhi". Bhava Sandhi > means > > > near the junction of two different bhavas (houses). Rasi sandhi > > means > > > junction point of two raasis. The cases you mentioned may be said > > to > > > be in raasi sandhi, and you cannot say surely they are in bhava > > sandhi > > > also. > > > > > > In bhava sandhi, the influence of the two houses may interplay > thus > > > rendering the planet incapable of producing clear results. That is > > > why, it is believed that a planet in a Bhava Sandhi is utterly > > > powerless. But, again, this effect is there only if the planet > > > concerned is very close to the junction of the houses to the > extent > > > that even a slight change in birth time say a few minutes can > > change > > > the house position of the planet. Now, a controversy may > > arise...... > > > according which system you should demarcate the bhavas?.....Is it > > > poryphry's method of houses, Placidus, Radiant, Regiomontanus, or > > any > > > other?..... > > > > > > So, kindly do not get confused about this at all......The > > exaltation > > > points of planets at a particular degree of a sign are > > astronomicaland > > > it has been found from practical experience of many astrologers > > over > > > many eras that planets in their degrees of exaltation are very > > > powerful. > > > > > > In astrology, there are so many seemingly contradictory rules and > > > dogmas......This is where the analytical ability and intuition of > > an > > > astrologer come to play an important role in the final > > delineation. > > > Human life is complicated.....and astrological dogmas - the keys > to > > > unlock the secrets of human life will naturally be complicated. > We > > > have to balance various views and then come to the final decision. > > > > > > May Divine Grace guide us all. > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > vedic- > > > astrology, "renunw" <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear respected Dakshinamoorthyji, > > > > > > > > 1. It is said that "if a planet is in a Bhava Sandhi it is > > utterly > > > > powerless and the results it produces are practically nill." > > > > > > > > 2. But again the maximum exaltation position of Mars is 28 > > degrees > > > in > > > > Makara and of Venus 27 degrees in Meena.Thus these 2 planets > will > > be > > > > extremely powerful near the Bhava Sandhis. > > > > > > > > Well, aren't these 2 statements contradictory? > > > > > > > > Blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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