Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Dear dakshinamoorthi ji and arjunji , Thanks for your valuable input. While searching for Sundara kandam by valmikiji, I came across following translation of the same: http://www.ibiblio.org/sripedia/ebooks/ramachander/ Kindly let me know your opinion on the recitation of the same in case done for remedial purpose. Regards, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear friends all historians agree to what shri dakshinamoorthi ji has written. sage valmiki's ramayan written in sanskrit is the "itihaas" which also contains few mantras which we give as remedies. since hindi was not popular in the southern parts of the country, only valimiki ramayan in sanskrit is famous in the south both for "itihaas" reference as well as for recital. in the north, few hundred years ago, after the onslaught of the muslim invasion started, goswami tulasidas ji has undertaken various measures with a social cause like setting up of hanuman mandirs where youth learnt wrestling and also created the most powerful bhakti bhavana in the northern parts of the country keeping in mind the simple hindi language understanding of the majority population states Uttar Pradesh and Bihar akin to kabir's vaani. his bhakti bhavana and glorification of lord rama as god was also with a view to protect ayodhya from destruction by the invaders. the power of ramcharitmanas is so great that it has unified all hindus in the northern parts of the country and lakhs of hindus laid their lives in protecting the lord ram's mandir at ayodhya and recital of ramcharitmanas has become a must at each and every temple in northern india. i also suggested to few suffering people the sundarakanda parayanam as a remedy where i meant only the comprehensive sundarakanda from valmiki ramayan and not the sundakarkanda of ramcharitmanas. with best wishes and regards arjun vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Poojaji: > > You definitely do not sound like a fool! Why do you say so?!!!! No > devotee of the Lord is a fool.....You have asked a genuine doubt, > though the clarification of this doubt is already in my earlier post. > I have not denied the efficacy of Raama Charita Maanasaa. > > Have I ever denied the efficacy of Raama Charita Maanasa in my posts? > .....Kindly read through my post again....I have explicitly said that > reading the manasa is also efficacious......But, then the results I > have been writing for chanting of Sundara Kaandam definitely do not > pertain to the chanting of the chapter of Raama Charita Maanasa. > > Vaalmiiki Raamaayana was written by Sage Vaalmiiki immediately after > completing a tapasya and on the initiation of Deva Rishi Naarada. It > has the essence of the vedas in it. Naturally, as it was written > under such Divine promptings, and by a Sage who had completed a severe > Penance, it has mantrik vibrations in it which are in addition to the > philosophical content/ bhakti content in the work. > > Raamacharita Maanasa- in contrast- is a Bhakthi literature. You will > find that Raamacharita Maanasaa differs from the original version of > Sage Vaalmiki regarding certain events to suit the regional culture > and the culture of the times in which the work was composed....... > Hence it does not qualify as an Ithihaas ( Ithihaas literally means > "It happened like that"; Vaalmiiki Raamaayana has the distinction of > being recited before the August presence of Shri Raama himself during > the course of the grand Yagna He conducted, by His own Sons. It is a > faithful rendering of the ORIGINAL story of Shri Raama AS IT HAPPENED; > This is what makes the original work in Sanskrit special). > There is no doubt that this singular work - The Raama Charita Maanasa- > spurned the Bhakti movement in whole of Hindi belt for many centuries; > it brought the Lord's story to the doorstep of the common man making > him free to indulge in the pleasure of reciting the story of Lord's > Life in his own tongue without needing to depend on greedy pandits and > many people have benefited by its recital. But, when I say recital of > particular chapter of Sundara Kaandam gives such and such results > based on references from Vaayu Puraanaa (incidentally, this was > compiled by Sage Veda Vyaasa - the composer of the other epic - > Mahaabharatam), I have always meant the original Sanskrit version > written by Vaalmiiki Rishi. You may build a thousand replicas of > ancient monuments, but still the grandeur and sentiment associated > with the original can never ever be replicated. Same is the case with > inspired regional writings.....They gain their prominence due to the > bhakti bhava of the composers.....but, they cannot equal the original > in terms of mantrik content. Of course, as I have said time and > again, in terms of adding to your spiritual fervour, these two works > are equal and none is inferior to the other. > > Bhakti literature is different from mantrik works in that, chanting > of bhakti literature gives results ONLY if your attitude is highly > devotional and you are able to plunge yourself in an attitude of > bhakti and total surrender. Mantrik literature relies mainly on the > vibration of the sounds. That is why vedas and other puranic mantras > have to be chanted with the right intonation to get the expected > results. Of course, chanting the Raama charita Maanasa in full > definitely has spiritual significance....but, Uma Samhita of Vaayu > Purana definitely has not meant "Raama Charita Maanasa" when giving > the effects of Raamaayana Sarga Paaraayanams. > > I hope I have made my stand clear regarding this. > > Blessed be. > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > vedic astrology, POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja@ > > wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Moortiji, > > > > Forgive me if I may sound like a fool. > > But I fail to understand one thing > > Shrimad Vaalmiiki Raamaayanam and Ramcharitra manas both should be > equally efficatious irrespective of the fact who has written the book. > Context of the book and intentions of the writer is same. > > Dont you agree with this? > > > > Regards, > > > > dakshinamoorthi r <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > Dear Shri. Vijay Kumar: > > > > I was referring to the Sundara Kaandam of Shrimad > > Vaalmiiki Raamaayanam ( the original Sanskrit > > composition). > > > > The Raam charita Maanasa version is also efficacious, > > but the procedures and the effects that I have > > referred to in my posts pertain to the original > > Sanskrit composition. > > > > I shall send a copy of this post to the forum also as > > per your request. > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > --- Vijay Kumar <vk_51@> wrote: > > > > > Resp. Shri Dakshinamoorthi ji, > > > > > > While replying, kindly post it on the group. > > > > > > Your posts on the list are very educative and have > > > a lot of contents. I forward my sincere > > > appreciations. > > > > > > Regarding Sundar Kand recitation : > > > > > > In Ram Charit Manas (Hindi), there is a Sundar > > > Kanda depicting Sri Hanumanji's flight to Lanka and > > > back after victory. I hope, the same is in > > > reference. > > > > > > The Sundar Kanda is not very big and its > > > recitation is covered in 1/2 to 1 hour depending on > > > the speed of the recitation. Since, you said it to > > > take 8 hrs, hence the doubt arose whether you are > > > referring the same or something else. > > > > > > Kindly clarify. > > > > > > Thanks and best regards, > > > > > > Vijay Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail > > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying > > attachments. > > > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI > > > > > > > > ________ > > India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://. > shaadi.com > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- (AT) (DOT) > com > > > > ....... 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