Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Dear Shri. Imran: First let me harp on astrological protocols before answering your query....As I have time and again repeated in this forum, a vedic astrologer is never addressed by his First name except by his own Guru. All others, his peers included, are expected to be deferential towards an astrologer. YOu can see that I NEVER address anyone by First Name....and even in the case of my students, where I prefix the title "student" meaning "Student of Astrology/ occult" as the case may be, which in itself in my opinion is a honourable title! Maybe, some may think I am being chauvinistic about this....but, I will insist on traditional usages again and again regardless of what others think, because righteousness and deferential attitude are as important as knowledge in occult subjects.....I would have simply ignored your mail (I would have refrained from answering you at all though your query is genuine!) if you had written to me privately like this.....Kindly note that I have nothing personal against you.....It is a question of appropriateness and traditional protocols of which I am a strict follower. As you have raised this query in a public forum, and the query serves a common goal, I am answering the query in the larger interests of the forum..... You are referring to classification of Gunas of the planet as per Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra.Yes, according to BPHS, Sun, Moon, and Jupiter are Satwik; Mercury and Venus are Rajasik; and Mars and Saturn are Tamasik. The Maharishi has left out Raahu and Ketu from the classification! But, you can find an anomaly in that, in the same shastra, Sun along with Mars is classified as a kshatriya! The natural tendency of a Kshatriya is Rajasik is it not? Even if a kshatriya is satwik by temperament as Lord Raama or King Yudhishtra, they have always had to display Raajasik characteristics impelled by the need to perform their duties....In the same way, though Sun as a satwik planet (by Guna) may impel a person towards spiritual pursuits, it will also give Raajasik qualities in the person it being a Kshatriya planet. Now, what I have stated above is not my reason for classifying Sun as Raajasik. I have only tried to logically convey how Sun can give rajasik qualities even assuming it is a satwik planet as per Maharishi Parashara's views. I relied on Naadi system of astrology where the Guna of the planet is used to identify its auspiciousness and the manner of its effects in a person's life....According to this system, Sun, Moon and Venus are classifed as rajasic. Mars, Saturn, Rahu, and Ketu are classified as tamasic. Jupiter and Mercury are Satvik. I have found in my personal experience that this classification based on Nadi system has provided consistent results, and is also supported by Naadi literature on predictive techniques. You will find the same classification in the book "Nadi system of Prediction" written by Shri. Ratan Lal and published by Ranjan Publications. These are certain controversies in astrology that we may have to resolve with our personal experiences because these widely differing views have been expressed by different Sages/ stalwarts! Blessed be. vedic astrology, "M. Imran" <astroimran wrote: > > Dear Dakshina Moorthi, > > The way you elaborate Sun in lagna is appreciable but at few places you referred Sun as raajask. I fear, Sun along with Moon and Jupiter possess Satavik guna, while Venus and Mercury are Rajasik in attribute. > > Would you please provide the source for your claim that Sun is Rajasik. > > Regards, > M. Imran > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: Dear Members: > > I generally refrain from kick-starting campaigns because for one > reason or the other, many people either have a high opinion about me. > ...and some people loath me beyond words that whatever I say lead to > controversies and unwarranted and pointless debates that serve no > useful purpose......I did not want to spoil this wonderful exercise by > my participation! > > However, lest Shrinadhji gets demoralized due to the lack of support > from others, I have decided to post my views today......I sincerely > pray that my ominous shadow should not eclipse this wonderful > exercise! > > I will give some points over which others can develop and discuss/ > debate to take this exercise further..... > > 1) If Sun is in the first house, the native will be chivalrous..... > Lagna is the house indicating "Self" - one's aatmaa....Sun is a > Kshatriya planet and raajasik by its qualities. Raajaasik quality is > the characteristic responsible for taking up the cause of good and > establishing Dharma, with force if necessary. These are the qualities > required for chivalry.....That is why we can deduce "The native with > Sun in the lagna" will be chivalrous. > > Now, I would request other members to modify this prediction based on > Sun's dignities ( i.e. based on whether it is debilitated in libra, > exalted in Mesha, or in own sign in Leo). > > 2) The person will not be easily moved from his/ her resolve by > others. The planet Sun is said to be of fixed and steady temperament. > (Moon is fickle; Mars is violent, etc. We will probably save this > information for discussing on the other planets in due course!) > 3) Sun in lagna predisposes a native to baldness or at least thinning > of hair. The hair can be brownish or honey-coloured (even if > naturally it is not of that colour, I have come across persons with > this planetary placement to have dyed their hair in these hues! > Maybe, the planet is impelling them to do so!) Probably "Sun wants to > shine (I am smiling as I write this) in the heads" of people with Sun > in lagna. Sun in lagna generally also gives a person a regal > appearance. Probably that is the reason why many international > leaders and intellectuals are bald-headed......Sun seems to give more > matter inside head after taking away that which is outside the head! > > 4) The native will not be of a forgiving disposition (This is again > due to the raajasik nature of Sun). > > 5) The native may have some ailment in the head (signified by lagna) > due to excess of bile (Sun is a bilious planet). > > 6) Eye-sight of the individual may suffer. (Due to excessive heat > [sun] affecting the optical centres of the head [sun]). Note that > ascendant is 12th to the 2nd house which indicates eyes. Sun is the > planet signifying eyes ( of course Venus is also a significator of > eyes!). So, the significator of eye-sight being placed in a house > which is 12th to the house signifying eye-sight may damage it. > > At the same time, the native may have magnetic eyes.....This may > seem paradoxical, but those who know about visual healing techniques > will be familiar with this phenomenon. If a yogi uses the power of > his/ her gaze to cure ailments, with time the eye-sight suffers. > People with sun in the ascendant can develop psychic-healing abilities > in which power of the eyes can be used as a healing instrument. Note > that Sun rules physicians also! So, this is perfectly logical to > assume that a person with Sun in the ascendant can develop Psychic > healing abilities - using mind-power or atmic power to cure people > from their ailments. > > I am giving some general significations of the planet Sun: Soul self, > Self-realization, influence, prestige, power, valour, health, eye, > general well being, heat, splendour, father, royalty, and royal > favour. > > General significations of the First house: Body constitution and > proportions, appearance, victory over enemies (according to Prashna > Marga), knowledge, complexion, loss of money (because it is 12th to > 2nd house which indicates money!), by the same logic....loss of eye- > sight (as 2nd house is for eye-sight), inner thoughts ( as opposed to > expressed speech which is indicated by the 2nd house), head. > > I would request other members to cook up more delineations by > intermingling of these significations and take this exercise further > for the benefit of all. > > Blessed be. > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreelid@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Davika ji, > > Instead of your encouragement and support, see to the fact > > that, "Sun in Lagna" generate/kindle the curiosity or interest of > > NONE!!!!!! Please see to the fact that there was not even a single > > response to this discussion, except yours!!!! > > May be no body is interested and we should stop this exercise (or > > may be all similar excesies) here itself. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > <devikadhillon@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > In support of what Sreehadh has already written below, this > > exercise is not only for kindergarteners but for all. There are some > > who uses Cyber Cafe to log on to this group, hoping that they will > > learn. There are some who finds no other option than to become a > > professional Astrologer to make a living. Let's make it worth for > > them. I urge learned to come out and share your knowledge. Sharing > > renews, not sharing makes it rusty and non-usable even for you. > > Personally, I do not have time or need to become a professional > > Astrologer. > > > > > > Devika. > > > > > > Sreenadh <sreelid@> wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > I hope no more introduction is needed for this exercise. Still let > > me > > > put in some words, for the people who are new to this game we are > > > playing. > > > Point to be noted: > > > 1) The only thing we know about a horoscope is that Sun in placed > > in > > > Lagna (i.e. Asc). What are the things we can predict about the > > native, > > > based on this bit of info only? > > > 2) It is an exercise where we are supposed to use our logic. > > > Understanding of classics is not a pre-requisite. > > > 3) Anybody making a prediction based on the above info, is > supposed > > > to explain the logic he employed, so that others also could > > understand > > > and follow it. > > > 4) Anybody could come forward with example horoscopes that > supports > > > or rejects the arguments put forward by the participant who is > > making > > > the prediction. > > > Hopes that many will come forward to take part in this joyous > > > exercise. Let us have fun, and let us learn together. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info. html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Namaskaar Sri Imran and Sri Dakshinamoorthy The Gunas combinations form four Varnas. It is as follows: 1. Predominantly Sattwic with traces of Rajas and Tamas - Brahmin 2. Predominantly Rajasic with Sattwa more than Tamas - Kshatriya 3. Predominantly Rajasic with Tamas more than Sattwa - Vaishya 4. Predominantly Tamasic with traces of Sattwa and Rajas - Shudra Sun as a Sattwa graha "creates" the binding through giving cognition to the ego thought. It is that through with ego, memory, intellect is enlivened. Since it gives light it is Sattva. This is clear from BPHS. In many Nadi Granthas, Sun is given as Rajasic. This is based on the thinking that the Varna of Sun is Kshatriya. It is very important to note the character of a Kshatriya. A Kshatriya is one who rules to guard Sattwa. The desire is to uphold dharma within one's kingdom. This is a different Rajas from that of Vaishya where the predominant desire is to earn kingdom or wealth for fulfilling baser desires and to laze around (tamas). It is best to consider Lord Surya as Sattwic for either it is predominantly Sattwa guna or striving towards it as a Kshatriya. Even the Nadi Granthas suggest this - If Sun's position is in nakshatra of Jupiter, it does not spoil its Guna. In such cases, native fights back to uphold dharma in his/her surroundings. By understanding the nature of the Gunas and the Varnas, much can be understood. Thanks and Regards Bharat Once Social Message here: The wrong understanding of the Varnas have led the society towards "caste system" based on birth. Varna Dharma is totally based on Gunas and not on based on birth. On 3/16/06, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Shri. Imran: > > First let me harp on astrological protocols before answering your > query....As I have time and again repeated in this forum, a vedic > astrologer is never addressed by his First name except by his own > Guru. All others, his peers included, are expected to be deferential > towards an astrologer. YOu can see that I NEVER address anyone by > First Name....and even in the case of my students, where I prefix the > title "student" meaning "Student of Astrology/ occult" as the case may > be, which in itself in my opinion is a honourable title! Maybe, some > may think I am being chauvinistic about this....but, I will insist on > traditional usages again and again regardless of what others think, > because righteousness and deferential attitude are as important as > knowledge in occult subjects.....I would have simply ignored your mail > (I would have refrained from answering you at all though your query is > genuine!) if you had written to me privately like this.....Kindly note > that I have nothing personal against you.....It is a question of > appropriateness and traditional protocols of which I am a strict > follower. As you have raised this query in a public forum, and the > query serves a common goal, I am answering the query in the larger > interests of the forum..... > > You are referring to classification of Gunas of the planet as per > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra.Yes, according to BPHS, Sun, Moon, and > Jupiter are Satwik; Mercury and Venus are Rajasik; and Mars and Saturn > are Tamasik. The Maharishi has left out Raahu and Ketu from the > classification! But, you can find an anomaly in that, in the same > shastra, Sun along with Mars is classified as a kshatriya! The natural > tendency of a Kshatriya is Rajasik is it not? Even if a kshatriya is > satwik by temperament as Lord Raama or King Yudhishtra, they have > always had to display Raajasik characteristics impelled by the need to > perform their duties....In the same way, though Sun as a satwik planet > (by Guna) may impel a person towards spiritual pursuits, it will also > give Raajasik qualities in the person it being a Kshatriya planet. > > Now, what I have stated above is not my reason for classifying Sun as > Raajasik. I have only tried to logically convey how Sun can give > rajasik qualities even assuming it is a satwik planet as per Maharishi > Parashara's views. I relied on Naadi system of astrology where the > Guna of the planet is used to identify its auspiciousness and the > manner of its effects in a person's life....According to this system, > > Sun, Moon and Venus are classifed as rajasic. > Mars, Saturn, Rahu, and Ketu are classified as tamasic. > Jupiter and Mercury are Satvik. > > I have found in my personal experience that this classification based > on Nadi system has provided consistent results, and is also supported > by Naadi literature on predictive techniques. You will find the same > classification in the book "Nadi system of Prediction" written by > Shri. Ratan Lal and published by Ranjan Publications. > > These are certain controversies in astrology that we may have to > resolve with our personal experiences because these widely differing > views have been expressed by different Sages/ stalwarts! > > Blessed be. > > > vedic astrology, "M. Imran" <astroimran > wrote: > > > > Dear Dakshina Moorthi, > > > > The way you elaborate Sun in lagna is appreciable but at few places > you referred Sun as raajask. I fear, Sun along with Moon and Jupiter > possess Satavik guna, while Venus and Mercury are Rajasik in > attribute. > > > > Would you please provide the source for your claim that Sun is > Rajasik. > > > > Regards, > > M. Imran > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: Dear Members: > > > > I generally refrain from kick-starting campaigns because for one > > reason or the other, many people either have a high opinion about > me. > > ...and some people loath me beyond words that whatever I say lead > to > > controversies and unwarranted and pointless debates that serve no > > useful purpose......I did not want to spoil this wonderful exercise > by > > my participation! > > > > However, lest Shrinadhji gets demoralized due to the lack of > support > > from others, I have decided to post my views today......I sincerely > > pray that my ominous shadow should not eclipse this wonderful > > exercise! > > > > I will give some points over which others can develop and discuss/ > > debate to take this exercise further..... > > > > 1) If Sun is in the first house, the native will be chivalrous..... > > Lagna is the house indicating "Self" - one's aatmaa....Sun is a > > Kshatriya planet and raajasik by its qualities. Raajaasik quality > is > > the characteristic responsible for taking up the cause of good and > > establishing Dharma, with force if necessary. These are the > qualities > > required for chivalry.....That is why we can deduce "The native > with > > Sun in the lagna" will be chivalrous. > > > > Now, I would request other members to modify this prediction based > on > > Sun's dignities ( i.e. based on whether it is debilitated in libra, > > exalted in Mesha, or in own sign in Leo). > > > > 2) The person will not be easily moved from his/ her resolve by > > others. The planet Sun is said to be of fixed and steady > temperament. > > (Moon is fickle; Mars is violent, etc. We will probably save this > > information for discussing on the other planets in due course!) > > 3) Sun in lagna predisposes a native to baldness or at least > thinning > > of hair. The hair can be brownish or honey-coloured (even if > > naturally it is not of that colour, I have come across persons with > > this planetary placement to have dyed their hair in these hues! > > Maybe, the planet is impelling them to do so!) Probably "Sun wants > to > > shine (I am smiling as I write this) in the heads" of people with > Sun > > in lagna. Sun in lagna generally also gives a person a regal > > appearance. Probably that is the reason why many international > > leaders and intellectuals are bald-headed......Sun seems to give > more > > matter inside head after taking away that which is outside the > head! > > > > 4) The native will not be of a forgiving disposition (This is > again > > due to the raajasik nature of Sun). > > > > 5) The native may have some ailment in the head (signified by > lagna) > > due to excess of bile (Sun is a bilious planet). > > > > 6) Eye-sight of the individual may suffer. (Due to excessive heat > > [sun] affecting the optical centres of the head [sun]). Note that > > ascendant is 12th to the 2nd house which indicates eyes. Sun is > the > > planet signifying eyes ( of course Venus is also a significator of > > eyes!). So, the significator of eye-sight being placed in a house > > which is 12th to the house signifying eye-sight may damage it. > > > > At the same time, the native may have magnetic eyes.....This may > > seem paradoxical, but those who know about visual healing > techniques > > will be familiar with this phenomenon. If a yogi uses the power of > > his/ her gaze to cure ailments, with time the eye-sight suffers. > > People with sun in the ascendant can develop psychic-healing > abilities > > in which power of the eyes can be used as a healing instrument. > Note > > that Sun rules physicians also! So, this is perfectly logical to > > assume that a person with Sun in the ascendant can develop Psychic > > healing abilities - using mind-power or atmic power to cure people > > from their ailments. > > > > I am giving some general significations of the planet Sun: Soul > self, > > Self-realization, influence, prestige, power, valour, health, eye, > > general well being, heat, splendour, father, royalty, and royal > > favour. > > > > General significations of the First house: Body constitution and > > proportions, appearance, victory over enemies (according to Prashna > > Marga), knowledge, complexion, loss of money (because it is 12th to > > 2nd house which indicates money!), by the same logic....loss of > eye- > > sight (as 2nd house is for eye-sight), inner thoughts ( as opposed > to > > expressed speech which is indicated by the 2nd house), head. > > > > I would request other members to cook up more delineations by > > intermingling of these significations and take this exercise > further > > for the benefit of all. > > > > Blessed be. > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreelid@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Davika ji, > > > Instead of your encouragement and support, see to the fact > > > that, "Sun in Lagna" generate/kindle the curiosity or interest of > > > NONE!!!!!! Please see to the fact that there was not even a > single > > > response to this discussion, except yours!!!! > > > May be no body is interested and we should stop this exercise > (or > > > may be all similar excesies) here itself. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > > <devikadhillon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > In support of what Sreehadh has already written below, > this > > > exercise is not only for kindergarteners but for all. There are > some > > > who uses Cyber Cafe to log on to this group, hoping that they > will > > > learn. There are some who finds no other option than to become a > > > professional Astrologer to make a living. Let's make it worth for > > > them. I urge learned to come out and share your knowledge. > Sharing > > > renews, not sharing makes it rusty and non-usable even for you. > > > Personally, I do not have time or need to become a professional > > > Astrologer. > > > > > > > > Devika. > > > > > > > > Sreenadh <sreelid@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > I hope no more introduction is needed for this exercise. Still > let > > > me > > > > put in some words, for the people who are new to this game we > are > > > > playing. > > > > Point to be noted: > > > > 1) The only thing we know about a horoscope is that Sun in > placed > > > in > > > > Lagna (i.e. Asc). What are the things we can predict about the > > > native, > > > > based on this bit of info only? > > > > 2) It is an exercise where we are supposed to use our logic. > > > > Understanding of classics is not a pre-requisite. > > > > 3) Anybody making a prediction based on the above info, is > > supposed > > > > to explain the logic he employed, so that others also could > > > understand > > > > and follow it. > > > > 4) Anybody could come forward with example horoscopes that > > supports > > > > or rejects the arguments put forward by the participant who is > > > making > > > > the prediction. > > > > Hopes that many will come forward to take part in this joyous > > > > exercise. Let us have fun, and let us learn together. > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info. > html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Anuj, Namaste. Good mail. i could feel the flavour of Gita & Swami Dayananda in your mail. Indeed Sun represents Bhagawad Gita & Highest knowledge(refer Jaimini Upadesa sutras). Ruling a country, sitting on a throne, wearing the attire of a King, or playing the role of a King can never stop one from earning for knowledge. King Janaka is Brahma jnani. The Sun burns within and gives light. Sun burns the ignorance. We are born in the Mrityu Loka ruled by Mars. Mars understands only the language of strength. Who can stop him? Is there a way out? Sun gets exalted in the night strong sign of Mesha to burn the ignorance of Mrityu Loka.(there is much more as to why the Sun is exalted in Mesha - i am not going into it now). Infact the great Sage Agastya gave the mantra bala & adhibala to King Rama and also asked him to worship Aditya to get over the tamasic pressures of Mrityu Loka. This does not mean that the sage advised and encouraged Rama to take to war quite often. It was Rama who asked the Ravana when he was nirayudhapani(weaponless) to go and come replenished the next day. This knowledge of the highest compassion at the battle field that too against a person who had done gross injustice is the blessings of Aditya. Every Jyotisha is expected to worship the Sun as he is the pratyaksha swaroopa who is witnessing anything and everything that is going on. He is trikala jnani. By worshipping the Sun the Lord bestows on his devotee the vision of Jyotish Vidya. i am no one to declare that the trikala jnani Sun as Rajasic and to point out controversies in the utterances of the Sage. The dwadasa adityas are in real terms the universal donors. 1.Dhata - awareness & cognition of dharma 2.Aryama - Kavach - protection 3.Mitra - Radiance, glory, remover of skin diseases 4.Varuna - Akshayapatra 5.Indra - Mangala gowri vratha - He is the Guru for this great vratha 6.Vivaswan - Blesses the devotee to get rid of the matri & pitri rinas/debts 7.Pusha - Bestows the devotee with deva karma(aruna was given the job of charioteer) who are not able even to get a shareera/body to finish off their karmas. 8.Parjanya - Blesses the devotee with ever youthful state for enabling him to continue their tapas - The underlying hint that he is ready to bless all those tapaswis (for all those sani/venus/ketu - worship of Parjanya will quicken the receipt of blessings). 9.Anshuman - Blesses the devotees who are in the habit of worshipping the atma linga(sphatika linga worship is the bahir mukha form). 10.Bhaga - Blesses the devotee with the greatest boon of eradication of dharma daridra(powerty in dharma - lack of awareness of the concept of dharma - blesses the much needed regard & value for dharma). 11.Tvasta - Nothing is impossible - For all those who are sincere in their tapas and who adhere to dharma and are focussed the blessings of Tvastha aditya is there - Bhagiratha brought Ganga the jivanadhi for the welfare of one and all 12. Visnu aditya - He blesses the devotees with the knowledge and state of immortality - from mrityu to amrita is the transformation brought out by Vishnu aditya - The Lord Sri Krsna states that among Adityas he is Vishnu aditya. Sun the power house, the Para, the pratyaksha swaroopa is Satwic as he is the embodiment of Knowledge and universal donor. i feel and it is my opinion that there is no controversy in the utterance of sage( i am fully aware that the sage does not need my opinion or support). May the Eka Deepa of the Sapta loka bless. Best wishes. Astrologically & spiritually yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote: Namaskaar Sri Imran and Sri Dakshinamoorthy The Gunas combinations form four Varnas. It is as follows: 1. Predominantly Sattwic with traces of Rajas and Tamas - Brahmin 2. Predominantly Rajasic with Sattwa more than Tamas - Kshatriya 3. Predominantly Rajasic with Tamas more than Sattwa - Vaishya 4. Predominantly Tamasic with traces of Sattwa and Rajas - Shudra Sun as a Sattwa graha "creates" the binding through giving cognition to the ego thought. It is that through with ego, memory, intellect is enlivened. Since it gives light it is Sattva. This is clear from BPHS. In many Nadi Granthas, Sun is given as Rajasic. This is based on the thinking that the Varna of Sun is Kshatriya. It is very important to note the character of a Kshatriya. A Kshatriya is one who rules to guard Sattwa. The desire is to uphold dharma within one's kingdom. This is a different Rajas from that of Vaishya where the predominant desire is to earn kingdom or wealth for fulfilling baser desires and to laze around (tamas). It is best to consider Lord Surya as Sattwic for either it is predominantly Sattwa guna or striving towards it as a Kshatriya. Even the Nadi Granthas suggest this - If Sun's position is in nakshatra of Jupiter, it does not spoil its Guna. In such cases, native fights back to uphold dharma in his/her surroundings. By understanding the nature of the Gunas and the Varnas, much can be understood. Thanks and Regards Bharat Once Social Message here: The wrong understanding of the Varnas have led the society towards "caste system" based on birth. Varna Dharma is totally based on Gunas and not on based on birth. On 3/16/06, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Shri. Imran: > > First let me harp on astrological protocols before answering your > query....As I have time and again repeated in this forum, a vedic > astrologer is never addressed by his First name except by his own > Guru. All others, his peers included, are expected to be deferential > towards an astrologer. YOu can see that I NEVER address anyone by > First Name....and even in the case of my students, where I prefix the > title "student" meaning "Student of Astrology/ occult" as the case may > be, which in itself in my opinion is a honourable title! Maybe, some > may think I am being chauvinistic about this....but, I will insist on > traditional usages again and again regardless of what others think, > because righteousness and deferential attitude are as important as > knowledge in occult subjects.....I would have simply ignored your mail > (I would have refrained from answering you at all though your query is > genuine!) if you had written to me privately like this.....Kindly note > that I have nothing personal against you.....It is a question of > appropriateness and traditional protocols of which I am a strict > follower. As you have raised this query in a public forum, and the > query serves a common goal, I am answering the query in the larger > interests of the forum..... > > You are referring to classification of Gunas of the planet as per > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra.Yes, according to BPHS, Sun, Moon, and > Jupiter are Satwik; Mercury and Venus are Rajasik; and Mars and Saturn > are Tamasik. The Maharishi has left out Raahu and Ketu from the > classification! But, you can find an anomaly in that, in the same > shastra, Sun along with Mars is classified as a kshatriya! The natural > tendency of a Kshatriya is Rajasik is it not? Even if a kshatriya is > satwik by temperament as Lord Raama or King Yudhishtra, they have > always had to display Raajasik characteristics impelled by the need to > perform their duties....In the same way, though Sun as a satwik planet > (by Guna) may impel a person towards spiritual pursuits, it will also > give Raajasik qualities in the person it being a Kshatriya planet. > > Now, what I have stated above is not my reason for classifying Sun as > Raajasik. I have only tried to logically convey how Sun can give > rajasik qualities even assuming it is a satwik planet as per Maharishi > Parashara's views. I relied on Naadi system of astrology where the > Guna of the planet is used to identify its auspiciousness and the > manner of its effects in a person's life....According to this system, > > Sun, Moon and Venus are classifed as rajasic. > Mars, Saturn, Rahu, and Ketu are classified as tamasic. > Jupiter and Mercury are Satvik. > > I have found in my personal experience that this classification based > on Nadi system has provided consistent results, and is also supported > by Naadi literature on predictive techniques. You will find the same > classification in the book "Nadi system of Prediction" written by > Shri. Ratan Lal and published by Ranjan Publications. > > These are certain controversies in astrology that we may have to > resolve with our personal experiences because these widely differing > views have been expressed by different Sages/ stalwarts! > > Blessed be. > > > vedic astrology, "M. Imran" <astroimran > wrote: > > > > Dear Dakshina Moorthi, > > > > The way you elaborate Sun in lagna is appreciable but at few places > you referred Sun as raajask. I fear, Sun along with Moon and Jupiter > possess Satavik guna, while Venus and Mercury are Rajasik in > attribute. > > > > Would you please provide the source for your claim that Sun is > Rajasik. > > > > Regards, > > M. Imran > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: Dear Members: > > > > I generally refrain from kick-starting campaigns because for one > > reason or the other, many people either have a high opinion about > me. > > ...and some people loath me beyond words that whatever I say lead > to > > controversies and unwarranted and pointless debates that serve no > > useful purpose......I did not want to spoil this wonderful exercise > by > > my participation! > > > > However, lest Shrinadhji gets demoralized due to the lack of > support > > from others, I have decided to post my views today......I sincerely > > pray that my ominous shadow should not eclipse this wonderful > > exercise! > > > > I will give some points over which others can develop and discuss/ > > debate to take this exercise further..... > > > > 1) If Sun is in the first house, the native will be chivalrous..... > > Lagna is the house indicating "Self" - one's aatmaa....Sun is a > > Kshatriya planet and raajasik by its qualities. Raajaasik quality > is > > the characteristic responsible for taking up the cause of good and > > establishing Dharma, with force if necessary. These are the > qualities > > required for chivalry.....That is why we can deduce "The native > with > > Sun in the lagna" will be chivalrous. > > > > Now, I would request other members to modify this prediction based > on > > Sun's dignities ( i.e. based on whether it is debilitated in libra, > > exalted in Mesha, or in own sign in Leo). > > > > 2) The person will not be easily moved from his/ her resolve by > > others. The planet Sun is said to be of fixed and steady > temperament. > > (Moon is fickle; Mars is violent, etc. We will probably save this > > information for discussing on the other planets in due course!) > > 3) Sun in lagna predisposes a native to baldness or at least > thinning > > of hair. The hair can be brownish or honey-coloured (even if > > naturally it is not of that colour, I have come across persons with > > this planetary placement to have dyed their hair in these hues! > > Maybe, the planet is impelling them to do so!) Probably "Sun wants > to > > shine (I am smiling as I write this) in the heads" of people with > Sun > > in lagna. Sun in lagna generally also gives a person a regal > > appearance. Probably that is the reason why many international > > leaders and intellectuals are bald-headed......Sun seems to give > more > > matter inside head after taking away that which is outside the > head! > > > > 4) The native will not be of a forgiving disposition (This is > again > > due to the raajasik nature of Sun). > > > > 5) The native may have some ailment in the head (signified by > lagna) > > due to excess of bile (Sun is a bilious planet). > > > > 6) Eye-sight of the individual may suffer. (Due to excessive heat > > [sun] affecting the optical centres of the head [sun]). Note that > > ascendant is 12th to the 2nd house which indicates eyes. Sun is > the > > planet signifying eyes ( of course Venus is also a significator of > > eyes!). So, the significator of eye-sight being placed in a house > > which is 12th to the house signifying eye-sight may damage it. > > > > At the same time, the native may have magnetic eyes.....This may > > seem paradoxical, but those who know about visual healing > techniques > > will be familiar with this phenomenon. If a yogi uses the power of > > his/ her gaze to cure ailments, with time the eye-sight suffers. > > People with sun in the ascendant can develop psychic-healing > abilities > > in which power of the eyes can be used as a healing instrument. > Note > > that Sun rules physicians also! So, this is perfectly logical to > > assume that a person with Sun in the ascendant can develop Psychic > > healing abilities - using mind-power or atmic power to cure people > > from their ailments. > > > > I am giving some general significations of the planet Sun: Soul > self, > > Self-realization, influence, prestige, power, valour, health, eye, > > general well being, heat, splendour, father, royalty, and royal > > favour. > > > > General significations of the First house: Body constitution and > > proportions, appearance, victory over enemies (according to Prashna > > Marga), knowledge, complexion, loss of money (because it is 12th to > > 2nd house which indicates money!), by the same logic....loss of > eye- > > sight (as 2nd house is for eye-sight), inner thoughts ( as opposed > to > > expressed speech which is indicated by the 2nd house), head. > > > > I would request other members to cook up more delineations by > > intermingling of these significations and take this exercise > further > > for the benefit of all. > > > > Blessed be. > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreelid@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Davika ji, > > > Instead of your encouragement and support, see to the fact > > > that, "Sun in Lagna" generate/kindle the curiosity or interest of > > > NONE!!!!!! Please see to the fact that there was not even a > single > > > response to this discussion, except yours!!!! > > > May be no body is interested and we should stop this exercise > (or > > > may be all similar excesies) here itself. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > > <devikadhillon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > In support of what Sreehadh has already written below, > this > > > exercise is not only for kindergarteners but for all. There are > some > > > who uses Cyber Cafe to log on to this group, hoping that they > will > > > learn. There are some who finds no other option than to become a > > > professional Astrologer to make a living. Let's make it worth for > > > them. 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Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 rama narayanan <sree88ganesha wrote: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:34:21 +0000 (GMT) rama narayanan <sree88ganesha Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Sun in Lagna - Let us predict - An excersise.(To Imran Sahib) vedic astrology SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Anuj, Namaste. Good mail. i could feel the flavour of Gita & Swami Dayananda in your mail. Indeed Sun represents Bhagawad Gita & Highest knowledge(refer Jaimini Upadesa sutras). Ruling a country, sitting on a throne, wearing the attire of a King, or playing the role of a King can never stop one from earning for knowledge. King Janaka is Brahma jnani. The Sun burns within and gives light. Sun burns the ignorance. We are born in the Mrityu Loka ruled by Mars. Mars understands only the language of strength. Who can stop him? Is there a way out? Sun gets exalted in the night strong sign of Mesha to burn the ignorance of Mrityu Loka.(there is much more as to why the Sun is exalted in Mesha - i am not going into it now). Infact the great Sage Agastya gave the mantra bala & adhibala to King Rama and also asked him to worship Aditya to get over the tamasic pressures of Mrityu Loka. This does not mean that the sage advised and encouraged Rama to take to war quite often. It was Rama who asked the Ravana when he was nirayudhapani(weaponless) to go and come replenished the next day. This knowledge of the highest compassion at the battle field that too against a person who had done gross injustice is the blessings of Aditya. Every Jyotisha is expected to worship the Sun as he is the pratyaksha swaroopa who is witnessing anything and everything that is going on. He is trikala jnani. By worshipping the Sun the Lord bestows on his devotee the vision of Jyotish Vidya. i am no one to declare that the trikala jnani Sun as Rajasic and to point out controversies in the utterances of the Sage. The dwadasa adityas are in real terms the universal donors. 1.Dhata - awareness & cognition of dharma 2.Aryama - Kavach - protection 3.Mitra - Radiance, glory, remover of skin diseases 4.Varuna - Akshayapatra 5.Indra - Mangala gowri vratha - He is the Guru for this great vratha 6.Vivaswan - Blesses the devotee to get rid of the matri & pitri rinas/debts 7.Pusha - Bestows the devotee with deva karma(aruna was given the job of charioteer) who are not able even to get a shareera/body to finish off their karmas. 8.Parjanya - Blesses the devotee with ever youthful state for enabling him to continue their tapas - The underlying hint that he is ready to bless all those tapaswis (for all those sani/venus/ketu - worship of Parjanya will quicken the receipt of blessings). 9.Anshuman - Blesses the devotees who are in the habit of worshipping the atma linga(sphatika linga worship is the bahir mukha form). 10.Bhaga - Blesses the devotee with the greatest boon of eradication of dharma daridra(powerty in dharma - lack of awareness of the concept of dharma - blesses the much needed regard & value for dharma). 11.Tvasta - Nothing is impossible - For all those who are sincere in their tapas and who adhere to dharma and are focussed the blessings of Tvastha aditya is there - Bhagiratha brought Ganga the jivanadhi for the welfare of one and all 12. Visnu aditya - He blesses the devotees with the knowledge and state of immortality - from mrityu to amrita is the transformation brought out by Vishnu aditya - The Lord Sri Krsna states that among Adityas he is Vishnu aditya. Sun the power house, the Para, the pratyaksha swaroopa is Satwic as he is the embodiment of Knowledge and universal donor. i feel and it is my opinion that there is no controversy in the utterance of sage( i am fully aware that the sage does not need my opinion or support). May the Eka Deepa of the Sapta loka bless. Best wishes. Astrologically & spiritually yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote: Namaskaar Sri Imran and Sri Dakshinamoorthy The Gunas combinations form four Varnas. It is as follows: 1. Predominantly Sattwic with traces of Rajas and Tamas - Brahmin 2. Predominantly Rajasic with Sattwa more than Tamas - Kshatriya 3. Predominantly Rajasic with Tamas more than Sattwa - Vaishya 4. Predominantly Tamasic with traces of Sattwa and Rajas - Shudra Sun as a Sattwa graha "creates" the binding through giving cognition to the ego thought. It is that through with ego, memory, intellect is enlivened. Since it gives light it is Sattva. This is clear from BPHS. In many Nadi Granthas, Sun is given as Rajasic. This is based on the thinking that the Varna of Sun is Kshatriya. It is very important to note the character of a Kshatriya. A Kshatriya is one who rules to guard Sattwa. The desire is to uphold dharma within one's kingdom. This is a different Rajas from that of Vaishya where the predominant desire is to earn kingdom or wealth for fulfilling baser desires and to laze around (tamas). It is best to consider Lord Surya as Sattwic for either it is predominantly Sattwa guna or striving towards it as a Kshatriya. Even the Nadi Granthas suggest this - If Sun's position is in nakshatra of Jupiter, it does not spoil its Guna. In such cases, native fights back to uphold dharma in his/her surroundings. By understanding the nature of the Gunas and the Varnas, much can be understood. Thanks and Regards Bharat Once Social Message here: The wrong understanding of the Varnas have led the society towards "caste system" based on birth. Varna Dharma is totally based on Gunas and not on based on birth. On 3/16/06, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Shri. Imran: > > First let me harp on astrological protocols before answering your > query....As I have time and again repeated in this forum, a vedic > astrologer is never addressed by his First name except by his own > Guru. All others, his peers included, are expected to be deferential > towards an astrologer. YOu can see that I NEVER address anyone by > First Name....and even in the case of my students, where I prefix the > title "student" meaning "Student of Astrology/ occult" as the case may > be, which in itself in my opinion is a honourable title! Maybe, some > may think I am being chauvinistic about this....but, I will insist on > traditional usages again and again regardless of what others think, > because righteousness and deferential attitude are as important as > knowledge in occult subjects.....I would have simply ignored your mail > (I would have refrained from answering you at all though your query is > genuine!) if you had written to me privately like this.....Kindly note > that I have nothing personal against you.....It is a question of > appropriateness and traditional protocols of which I am a strict > follower. As you have raised this query in a public forum, and the > query serves a common goal, I am answering the query in the larger > interests of the forum..... > > You are referring to classification of Gunas of the planet as per > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra.Yes, according to BPHS, Sun, Moon, and > Jupiter are Satwik; Mercury and Venus are Rajasik; and Mars and Saturn > are Tamasik. The Maharishi has left out Raahu and Ketu from the > classification! But, you can find an anomaly in that, in the same > shastra, Sun along with Mars is classified as a kshatriya! The natural > tendency of a Kshatriya is Rajasik is it not? Even if a kshatriya is > satwik by temperament as Lord Raama or King Yudhishtra, they have > always had to display Raajasik characteristics impelled by the need to > perform their duties....In the same way, though Sun as a satwik planet > (by Guna) may impel a person towards spiritual pursuits, it will also > give Raajasik qualities in the person it being a Kshatriya planet. > > Now, what I have stated above is not my reason for classifying Sun as > Raajasik. I have only tried to logically convey how Sun can give > rajasik qualities even assuming it is a satwik planet as per Maharishi > Parashara's views. I relied on Naadi system of astrology where the > Guna of the planet is used to identify its auspiciousness and the > manner of its effects in a person's life....According to this system, > > Sun, Moon and Venus are classifed as rajasic. > Mars, Saturn, Rahu, and Ketu are classified as tamasic. > Jupiter and Mercury are Satvik. > > I have found in my personal experience that this classification based > on Nadi system has provided consistent results, and is also supported > by Naadi literature on predictive techniques. You will find the same > classification in the book "Nadi system of Prediction" written by > Shri. Ratan Lal and published by Ranjan Publications. > > These are certain controversies in astrology that we may have to > resolve with our personal experiences because these widely differing > views have been expressed by different Sages/ stalwarts! > > Blessed be. > > > vedic astrology, "M. Imran" <astroimran > wrote: > > > > Dear Dakshina Moorthi, > > > > The way you elaborate Sun in lagna is appreciable but at few places > you referred Sun as raajask. I fear, Sun along with Moon and Jupiter > possess Satavik guna, while Venus and Mercury are Rajasik in > attribute. > > > > Would you please provide the source for your claim that Sun is > Rajasik. > > > > Regards, > > M. Imran > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: Dear Members: > > > > I generally refrain from kick-starting campaigns because for one > > reason or the other, many people either have a high opinion about > me. > > ...and some people loath me beyond words that whatever I say lead > to > > controversies and unwarranted and pointless debates that serve no > > useful purpose......I did not want to spoil this wonderful exercise > by > > my participation! > > > > However, lest Shrinadhji gets demoralized due to the lack of > support > > from others, I have decided to post my views today......I sincerely > > pray that my ominous shadow should not eclipse this wonderful > > exercise! > > > > I will give some points over which others can develop and discuss/ > > debate to take this exercise further..... > > > > 1) If Sun is in the first house, the native will be chivalrous..... > > Lagna is the house indicating "Self" - one's aatmaa....Sun is a > > Kshatriya planet and raajasik by its qualities. Raajaasik quality > is > > the characteristic responsible for taking up the cause of good and > > establishing Dharma, with force if necessary. These are the > qualities > > required for chivalry.....That is why we can deduce "The native > with > > Sun in the lagna" will be chivalrous. > > > > Now, I would request other members to modify this prediction based > on > > Sun's dignities ( i.e. based on whether it is debilitated in libra, > > exalted in Mesha, or in own sign in Leo). > > > > 2) The person will not be easily moved from his/ her resolve by > > others. The planet Sun is said to be of fixed and steady > temperament. > > (Moon is fickle; Mars is violent, etc. We will probably save this > > information for discussing on the other planets in due course!) > > 3) Sun in lagna predisposes a native to baldness or at least > thinning > > of hair. The hair can be brownish or honey-coloured (even if > > naturally it is not of that colour, I have come across persons with > > this planetary placement to have dyed their hair in these hues! > > Maybe, the planet is impelling them to do so!) Probably "Sun wants > to > > shine (I am smiling as I write this) in the heads" of people with > Sun > > in lagna. Sun in lagna generally also gives a person a regal > > appearance. Probably that is the reason why many international > > leaders and intellectuals are bald-headed......Sun seems to give > more > > matter inside head after taking away that which is outside the > head! > > > > 4) The native will not be of a forgiving disposition (This is > again > > due to the raajasik nature of Sun). > > > > 5) The native may have some ailment in the head (signified by > lagna) > > due to excess of bile (Sun is a bilious planet). > > > > 6) Eye-sight of the individual may suffer. (Due to excessive heat > > [sun] affecting the optical centres of the head [sun]). Note that > > ascendant is 12th to the 2nd house which indicates eyes. Sun is > the > > planet signifying eyes ( of course Venus is also a significator of > > eyes!). So, the significator of eye-sight being placed in a house > > which is 12th to the house signifying eye-sight may damage it. > > > > At the same time, the native may have magnetic eyes.....This may > > seem paradoxical, but those who know about visual healing > techniques > > will be familiar with this phenomenon. If a yogi uses the power of > > his/ her gaze to cure ailments, with time the eye-sight suffers. > > People with sun in the ascendant can develop psychic-healing > abilities > > in which power of the eyes can be used as a healing instrument. > Note > > that Sun rules physicians also! So, this is perfectly logical to > > assume that a person with Sun in the ascendant can develop Psychic > > healing abilities - using mind-power or atmic power to cure people > > from their ailments. > > > > I am giving some general significations of the planet Sun: Soul > self, > > Self-realization, influence, prestige, power, valour, health, eye, > > general well being, heat, splendour, father, royalty, and royal > > favour. > > > > General significations of the First house: Body constitution and > > proportions, appearance, victory over enemies (according to Prashna > > Marga), knowledge, complexion, loss of money (because it is 12th to > > 2nd house which indicates money!), by the same logic....loss of > eye- > > sight (as 2nd house is for eye-sight), inner thoughts ( as opposed > to > > expressed speech which is indicated by the 2nd house), head. > > > > I would request other members to cook up more delineations by > > intermingling of these significations and take this exercise > further > > for the benefit of all. > > > > Blessed be. > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreelid@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Davika ji, > > > Instead of your encouragement and support, see to the fact > > > that, "Sun in Lagna" generate/kindle the curiosity or interest of > > > NONE!!!!!! Please see to the fact that there was not even a > single > > > response to this discussion, except yours!!!! > > > May be no body is interested and we should stop this exercise > (or > > > may be all similar excesies) here itself. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > > <devikadhillon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > In support of what Sreehadh has already written below, > this > > > exercise is not only for kindergarteners but for all. There are > some > > > who uses Cyber Cafe to log on to this group, hoping that they > will > > > learn. There are some who finds no other option than to become a > > > professional Astrologer to make a living. Let's make it worth for > > > them. I urge learned to come out and share your knowledge. > Sharing > > > renews, not sharing makes it rusty and non-usable even for you. > > > Personally, I do not have time or need to become a professional > > > Astrologer. > > > > > > > > Devika. > > > > > > > > Sreenadh <sreelid@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > I hope no more introduction is needed for this exercise. Still > let > > > me > > > > put in some words, for the people who are new to this game we > are > > > > playing. > > > > Point to be noted: > > > > 1) The only thing we know about a horoscope is that Sun in > placed > > > in > > > > Lagna (i.e. Asc). What are the things we can predict about the > > > native, > > > > based on this bit of info only? > > > > 2) It is an exercise where we are supposed to use our logic. > > > > Understanding of classics is not a pre-requisite. > > > > 3) Anybody making a prediction based on the above info, is > > supposed > > > > to explain the logic he employed, so that others also could > > > understand > > > > and follow it. > > > > 4) Anybody could come forward with example horoscopes that > > supports > > > > or rejects the arguments put forward by the participant who is > > > making > > > > the prediction. > > > > Hopes that many will come forward to take part in this joyous > > > > exercise. Let us have fun, and let us learn together. > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info. > html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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