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PrafullaJi,

But what is her birth time & where is she born in Italy?

Regards

Dev

 

 

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With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun / rahu in meena

(sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka aspected by rahu..the

reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct motion be more

harmful for current Congress headed government in India.

 

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vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang"

<ripra_solutions wrote:

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> Hi

>

> With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun / rahu in meena

> (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka aspected by rahu..the

> reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct motion be more

> harmful for current Congress headed government in India.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

 

Prafulla,

 

I think it is the :

 

1.Dwirdwadasha of budha mahadasa and rahu antardasa.

2.Muntha in 8th in Varshaphala.

Lasltly,

 

Last time Saturn was in cancer- Indira Gandhi was disqualified but

decided to impose Emergency then lost elections in 1977.

It is to do with Saturn in Karka and the state of rulers in Delhi.

 

Regards

 

Pankaj

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Dear Deva ji

 

I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember was her karka

Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting 10th has also

triggered her resignation.

 

regards / prafulla

 

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dear prafulla,

as per maharashtra kundali sangraha her birth date is

09-12-1946, TURIN-ITALY--no birth time is mentioned.

karka lagna and gemini rashi. lagna24-06,ravi

24-03,moon0930,mangal01-10,budha3-08,guru23,shukra

24-02,shani15-24rahu18-12,harshal26-45,neptune17-24,plto20-04.shani,pluto,harsha\

l

retro at birth time.

shani pluto--1st house,nep-3rd house,guru-ven-4th

house,ravi budh ketu--5th house, mangal--mool--6th

house,rahu-harshal--11th house and moon in 12 th

house.

hope this will help you further,

ragards,

deepak.

--- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote:

 

> Dear Deva ji

>

> I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember

> was her karka

> Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting

> 10th has also

> triggered her resignation.

>

> regards / prafulla

>

> vedic astrology, Deva Devan

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> > PrafullaJi,

> > But what is her birth time & where is she born

> in Italy?

> > Regards

> > Dev

> >

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> > Hi

> >

> > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun /

> rahu in meena

> > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka

> aspected by rahu..the

> > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct

> motion be more

> > harmful for current Congress headed government in

> India.

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I believe more than the retrograde guru,budha,sani. It

is the eclipse. becoz it hpnd between 2 eclipses she

will find it difficult to become a MP again. and becoz

there r 3 retrogrades planet she may lose sympathy of

the people when they change direction.

 

Budha & Guru become just retrograde so this may

trigger religious tensions sometime down the

line.students violence?

 

Regards

Sridhar

 

--- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote:

 

> Dear Deva ji

>

> I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember

> was her karka

> Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting

> 10th has also

> triggered her resignation.

>

> regards / prafulla

>

> vedic astrology, Deva Devan

> <devadevan1008 wrote:

> >

> > PrafullaJi,

> > But what is her birth time & where is she born

> in Italy?

> > Regards

> > Dev

> >

> >

> > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote:

> > Hi

> >

> > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun /

> rahu in meena

> > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka

> aspected by rahu..the

> > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct

> motion be more

> > harmful for current Congress headed government in

> India.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla

> >

> >

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Om Shri Gurve Namah

Respected list members,

According to my record book the date of birth of Smt. Sonia Gandhi is Dec

9,1946, at 21:30 in Turin, Italy.Her Birth Lagna is Cancer, Jupiter and Venus

are in 4th house, Mercury,Ketu and Sun in 5th, Mars in 6th, Rahu in 11th and

Moon in !2th house. She is running Mercury mahadasha and Rahu antardasa.Though

Rahu is exited but is in the nakshtra of Moon, in navamsha is posited in 5th and

in D/10 in 10th house,.Mercury being 12th and 3rd lord is malefic for the

chart.So dash and antar dasha is not favourable for her.If we see the transit,

Mercury is retrograde, transiting 8th house, voluntary resignation, Saturn and

Jupiter are also retrograde. Jupiter is transiting4th and Saturn is transiting

9th house. Again indicating loss of office. If she fights her election during

the period of Mercury/Jupiter she will face very hard time.

Sridhar Govindan <appulali wrote:

 

I believe more than the retrograde guru,budha,sani. It

is the eclipse. becoz it hpnd between 2 eclipses she

will find it difficult to become a MP again. and becoz

there r 3 retrogrades planet she may lose sympathy of

the people when they change direction.

 

Budha & Guru become just retrograde so this may

trigger religious tensions sometime down the

line.students violence?

 

Regards

Sridhar

 

--- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote:

 

> Dear Deva ji

>

> I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember

> was her karka

> Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting

> 10th has also

> triggered her resignation.

>

> regards / prafulla

>

> vedic astrology, Deva Devan

> <devadevan1008 wrote:

> >

> > PrafullaJi,

> > But what is her birth time & where is she born

> in Italy?

> > Regards

> > Dev

> >

> >

> > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote:

> > Hi

> >

> > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun /

> rahu in meena

> > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka

> aspected by rahu..the

> > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct

> motion be more

> > harmful for current Congress headed government in

> India.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Kursija Ji,

Many thanks for the info.From another source, I got the following details.This

corresponds to the details given by you, except some difference in birth

time.The Ascendant ,as you rightly pointed out is Cancer only, even whilst

applying the below mentioned time.

Name--Sonia

Place---Turin

Country---Italy

Date of Bith--9 Dec,1946

Time---20:18:00

Regards

Dev

 

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Om Shri Gurve Namah

Respected list members,

According to my record book the date of birth of Smt. Sonia Gandhi is Dec

9,1946, at 21:30 in Turin, Italy.Her Birth Lagna is Cancer, Jupiter and Venus

are in 4th house, Mercury,Ketu and Sun in 5th, Mars in 6th, Rahu in 11th and

Moon in !2th house. She is running Mercury mahadasha and Rahu antardasa.Though

Rahu is exited but is in the nakshtra of Moon, in navamsha is posited in 5th and

in D/10 in 10th house,.Mercury being 12th and 3rd lord is malefic for the

chart.So dash and antar dasha is not favourable for her.If we see the transit,

Mercury is retrograde, transiting 8th house, voluntary resignation, Saturn and

Jupiter are also retrograde. Jupiter is transiting4th and Saturn is transiting

9th house. Again indicating loss of office. If she fights her election during

the period of Mercury/Jupiter she will face very hard time.

Sridhar Govindan <appulali wrote:

 

I believe more than the retrograde guru,budha,sani. It

is the eclipse. becoz it hpnd between 2 eclipses she

will find it difficult to become a MP again. and becoz

there r 3 retrogrades planet she may lose sympathy of

the people when they change direction.

 

Budha & Guru become just retrograde so this may

trigger religious tensions sometime down the

line.students violence?

 

Regards

Sridhar

 

--- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote:

 

> Dear Deva ji

>

> I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember

> was her karka

> Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting

> 10th has also

> triggered her resignation.

>

> regards / prafulla

>

> vedic astrology, Deva Devan

> <devadevan1008 wrote:

> >

> > PrafullaJi,

> > But what is her birth time & where is she born

> in Italy?

> > Regards

> > Dev

> >

> >

> > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote:

> > Hi

> >

> > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun /

> rahu in meena

> > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka

> aspected by rahu..the

> > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct

> motion be more

> > harmful for current Congress headed government in

> India.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Archives:

> vedic astrology

> >

> > Group info:

>

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> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

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> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri

> Krishnaarpanamastu ||

> >

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many thanks. For karaka lagna and saturn & guru in transit - on

natal positions, is certainly a major effect for her. In my view,

once they are direct and move towards bhava madhaya, there will be

further more controversies and difficulties ahead.

 

regards / Prafulla

 

vedic astrology, Deepak Chipalkatti

<deepakchipalkatti wrote:

>

> dear prafulla,

> as per maharashtra kundali sangraha her birth date is

> 09-12-1946, TURIN-ITALY--no birth time is mentioned.

> karka lagna and gemini rashi. lagna24-06,ravi

> 24-03,moon0930,mangal01-10,budha3-08,guru23,shukra

> 24-02,shani15-24rahu18-12,harshal26-45,neptune17-24,plto20-

04.shani,pluto,harshal

> retro at birth time.

> shani pluto--1st house,nep-3rd house,guru-ven-4th

> house,ravi budh ketu--5th house, mangal--mool--6th

> house,rahu-harshal--11th house and moon in 12 th

> house.

> hope this will help you further,

> ragards,

> deepak.

> --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote:

>

> > Dear Deva ji

> >

> > I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember

> > was her karka

> > Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting

> > 10th has also

> > triggered her resignation.

> >

> > regards / prafulla

> >

> > vedic astrology, Deva Devan

> > <devadevan1008@> wrote:

> > >

> > > PrafullaJi,

> > > But what is her birth time & where is she born

> > in Italy?

> > > Regards

> > > Dev

> > >

> > >

> > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote:

> > > Hi

> > >

> > > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun /

> > rahu in meena

> > > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka

> > aspected by rahu..the

> > > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct

> > motion be more

> > > harmful for current Congress headed government in

> > India.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Archives:

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> >

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Hello,

about the last general elections, I had predicted the following in VA before

the congress party appointed PM .

I had written the following about Mrs. Gandhi.

 

"She is born with Cancer ascendent with retro Sani .

My first immediate reaction is, she is going to be in the Driver's seat when

Sani is in Kataka and especially

when it is Vakra. Whether she will drive herself or if she will choose to be a

back seat driver having the puppet stringsin her control , remains to be seen.

Her Budha dasa, Kuja Bhukti and Guru antara will see the beginning of

Nehru-Gandhi legacy to prevail for next 22 years

Time will tell the whole story .

Rgds

Tatvam-Asi"

 

How remarkable !!!

She resigned her seat in parliament and now has emerged as a stronger person

and all her critics are licking their wounds.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

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many thanks. For karaka lagna and saturn & guru in transit - on

natal positions, is certainly a major effect for her. In my view,

once they are direct and move towards bhava madhaya, there will be

further more controversies and difficulties ahead.

 

regards / Prafulla

 

vedic astrology, Deepak Chipalkatti

<deepakchipalkatti wrote:

>

> dear prafulla,

> as per maharashtra kundali sangraha her birth date is

> 09-12-1946, TURIN-ITALY--no birth time is mentioned.

> karka lagna and gemini rashi. lagna24-06,ravi

> 24-03,moon0930,mangal01-10,budha3-08,guru23,shukra

> 24-02,shani15-24rahu18-12,harshal26-45,neptune17-24,plto20-

04.shani,pluto,harshal

> retro at birth time.

> shani pluto--1st house,nep-3rd house,guru-ven-4th

> house,ravi budh ketu--5th house, mangal--mool--6th

> house,rahu-harshal--11th house and moon in 12 th

> house.

> hope this will help you further,

> ragards,

> deepak.

> --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote:

>

> > Dear Deva ji

> >

> > I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember

> > was her karka

> > Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting

> > 10th has also

> > triggered her resignation.

> >

> > regards / prafulla

> >

> > vedic astrology, Deva Devan

> > <devadevan1008@> wrote:

> > >

> > > PrafullaJi,

> > > But what is her birth time & where is she born

> > in Italy?

> > > Regards

> > > Dev

> > >

> > >

> > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote:

> > > Hi

> > >

> > > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun /

> > rahu in meena

> > > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka

> > aspected by rahu..the

> > > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct

> > motion be more

> > > harmful for current Congress headed government in

> > India.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Devan ji,

thanks for informing another time of birth of Smt Sonia Gandhi. It will change

her navamsha chart. We have to go in deep. Only than we will be able to arrive

at the correct time.

Deva Devan <devadevan1008 wrote: Kursija Ji,

Many thanks for the info.From another source, I got the following

details.This corresponds to the details given by you, except some difference in

birth time.The Ascendant ,as you rightly pointed out is Cancer only, even

whilst applying the below mentioned time.

Name--Sonia

Place---Turin

Country---Italy

Date of Bith--9 Dec,1946

Time---20:18:00

Regards

Dev

 

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Om Shri Gurve Namah

Respected list members,

According to my record book the date of birth of Smt. Sonia Gandhi is Dec

9,1946, at 21:30 in Turin, Italy.Her Birth Lagna is Cancer, Jupiter and Venus

are in 4th house, Mercury,Ketu and Sun in 5th, Mars in 6th, Rahu in 11th and

Moon in !2th house. She is running Mercury mahadasha and Rahu antardasa.Though

Rahu is exited but is in the nakshtra of Moon, in navamsha is posited in 5th and

in D/10 in 10th house,.Mercury being 12th and 3rd lord is malefic for the

chart.So dash and antar dasha is not favourable for her.If we see the transit,

Mercury is retrograde, transiting 8th house, voluntary resignation, Saturn and

Jupiter are also retrograde. Jupiter is transiting4th and Saturn is transiting

9th house. Again indicating loss of office. If she fights her election during

the period of Mercury/Jupiter she will face very hard time.

Sridhar Govindan <appulali wrote:

 

I believe more than the retrograde guru,budha,sani. It

is the eclipse. becoz it hpnd between 2 eclipses she

will find it difficult to become a MP again. and becoz

there r 3 retrogrades planet she may lose sympathy of

the people when they change direction.

 

Budha & Guru become just retrograde so this may

trigger religious tensions sometime down the

line.students violence?

 

Regards

Sridhar

 

--- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote:

 

> Dear Deva ji

>

> I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember

> was her karka

> Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting

> 10th has also

> triggered her resignation.

>

> regards / prafulla

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> vedic astrology, Deva Devan

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> > PrafullaJi,

> > But what is her birth time & where is she born

> in Italy?

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> > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote:

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> > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun /

> rahu in meena

> > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka

> aspected by rahu..the

> > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct

> motion be more

> > harmful for current Congress headed government in

> India.

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> > regards / Prafulla

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