Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 PrafullaJi, But what is her birth time & where is she born in Italy? Regards Dev Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: Hi With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun / rahu in meena (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka aspected by rahu..the reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct motion be more harmful for current Congress headed government in India. regards / Prafulla Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" <ripra_solutions wrote: > > Hi > > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun / rahu in meena > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka aspected by rahu..the > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct motion be more > harmful for current Congress headed government in India. > > regards / Prafulla > Prafulla, I think it is the : 1.Dwirdwadasha of budha mahadasa and rahu antardasa. 2.Muntha in 8th in Varshaphala. Lasltly, Last time Saturn was in cancer- Indira Gandhi was disqualified but decided to impose Emergency then lost elections in 1977. It is to do with Saturn in Karka and the state of rulers in Delhi. Regards Pankaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Dear Deva ji I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember was her karka Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting 10th has also triggered her resignation. regards / prafulla vedic astrology, Deva Devan <devadevan1008 wrote: > > PrafullaJi, > But what is her birth time & where is she born in Italy? > Regards > Dev > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: > Hi > > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun / rahu in meena > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka aspected by rahu..the > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct motion be more > harmful for current Congress headed government in India. > > regards / Prafulla > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 dear prafulla, as per maharashtra kundali sangraha her birth date is 09-12-1946, TURIN-ITALY--no birth time is mentioned. karka lagna and gemini rashi. lagna24-06,ravi 24-03,moon0930,mangal01-10,budha3-08,guru23,shukra 24-02,shani15-24rahu18-12,harshal26-45,neptune17-24,plto20-04.shani,pluto,harsha\ l retro at birth time. shani pluto--1st house,nep-3rd house,guru-ven-4th house,ravi budh ketu--5th house, mangal--mool--6th house,rahu-harshal--11th house and moon in 12 th house. hope this will help you further, ragards, deepak. --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: > Dear Deva ji > > I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember > was her karka > Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting > 10th has also > triggered her resignation. > > regards / prafulla > > vedic astrology, Deva Devan > <devadevan1008 wrote: > > > > PrafullaJi, > > But what is her birth time & where is she born > in Italy? > > Regards > > Dev > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: > > Hi > > > > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun / > rahu in meena > > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka > aspected by rahu..the > > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct > motion be more > > harmful for current Congress headed government in > India. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > vedic astrology > > > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular > phones from your PC > and save big. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 I believe more than the retrograde guru,budha,sani. It is the eclipse. becoz it hpnd between 2 eclipses she will find it difficult to become a MP again. and becoz there r 3 retrogrades planet she may lose sympathy of the people when they change direction. Budha & Guru become just retrograde so this may trigger religious tensions sometime down the line.students violence? Regards Sridhar --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: > Dear Deva ji > > I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember > was her karka > Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting > 10th has also > triggered her resignation. > > regards / prafulla > > vedic astrology, Deva Devan > <devadevan1008 wrote: > > > > PrafullaJi, > > But what is her birth time & where is she born > in Italy? > > Regards > > Dev > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: > > Hi > > > > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun / > rahu in meena > > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka > aspected by rahu..the > > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct > motion be more > > harmful for current Congress headed government in > India. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > vedic astrology > > > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular > phones from your PC > and save big. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Om Shri Gurve Namah Respected list members, According to my record book the date of birth of Smt. Sonia Gandhi is Dec 9,1946, at 21:30 in Turin, Italy.Her Birth Lagna is Cancer, Jupiter and Venus are in 4th house, Mercury,Ketu and Sun in 5th, Mars in 6th, Rahu in 11th and Moon in !2th house. She is running Mercury mahadasha and Rahu antardasa.Though Rahu is exited but is in the nakshtra of Moon, in navamsha is posited in 5th and in D/10 in 10th house,.Mercury being 12th and 3rd lord is malefic for the chart.So dash and antar dasha is not favourable for her.If we see the transit, Mercury is retrograde, transiting 8th house, voluntary resignation, Saturn and Jupiter are also retrograde. Jupiter is transiting4th and Saturn is transiting 9th house. Again indicating loss of office. If she fights her election during the period of Mercury/Jupiter she will face very hard time. Sridhar Govindan <appulali wrote: I believe more than the retrograde guru,budha,sani. It is the eclipse. becoz it hpnd between 2 eclipses she will find it difficult to become a MP again. and becoz there r 3 retrogrades planet she may lose sympathy of the people when they change direction. Budha & Guru become just retrograde so this may trigger religious tensions sometime down the line.students violence? Regards Sridhar --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: > Dear Deva ji > > I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember > was her karka > Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting > 10th has also > triggered her resignation. > > regards / prafulla > > vedic astrology, Deva Devan > <devadevan1008 wrote: > > > > PrafullaJi, > > But what is her birth time & where is she born > in Italy? > > Regards > > Dev > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: > > Hi > > > > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun / > rahu in meena > > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka > aspected by rahu..the > > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct > motion be more > > harmful for current Congress headed government in > India. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > vedic astrology > > > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular > phones from your PC > and save big. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Kursija Ji, Many thanks for the info.From another source, I got the following details.This corresponds to the details given by you, except some difference in birth time.The Ascendant ,as you rightly pointed out is Cancer only, even whilst applying the below mentioned time. Name--Sonia Place---Turin Country---Italy Date of Bith--9 Dec,1946 Time---20:18:00 Regards Dev "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote: Om Shri Gurve Namah Respected list members, According to my record book the date of birth of Smt. Sonia Gandhi is Dec 9,1946, at 21:30 in Turin, Italy.Her Birth Lagna is Cancer, Jupiter and Venus are in 4th house, Mercury,Ketu and Sun in 5th, Mars in 6th, Rahu in 11th and Moon in !2th house. She is running Mercury mahadasha and Rahu antardasa.Though Rahu is exited but is in the nakshtra of Moon, in navamsha is posited in 5th and in D/10 in 10th house,.Mercury being 12th and 3rd lord is malefic for the chart.So dash and antar dasha is not favourable for her.If we see the transit, Mercury is retrograde, transiting 8th house, voluntary resignation, Saturn and Jupiter are also retrograde. Jupiter is transiting4th and Saturn is transiting 9th house. Again indicating loss of office. If she fights her election during the period of Mercury/Jupiter she will face very hard time. Sridhar Govindan <appulali wrote: I believe more than the retrograde guru,budha,sani. It is the eclipse. becoz it hpnd between 2 eclipses she will find it difficult to become a MP again. and becoz there r 3 retrogrades planet she may lose sympathy of the people when they change direction. Budha & Guru become just retrograde so this may trigger religious tensions sometime down the line.students violence? Regards Sridhar --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: > Dear Deva ji > > I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember > was her karka > Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting > 10th has also > triggered her resignation. > > regards / prafulla > > vedic astrology, Deva Devan > <devadevan1008 wrote: > > > > PrafullaJi, > > But what is her birth time & where is she born > in Italy? > > Regards > > Dev > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: > > Hi > > > > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun / > rahu in meena > > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka > aspected by rahu..the > > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct > motion be more > > harmful for current Congress headed government in > India. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > vedic astrology > > > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular > phones from your PC > and save big. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 many thanks. For karaka lagna and saturn & guru in transit - on natal positions, is certainly a major effect for her. In my view, once they are direct and move towards bhava madhaya, there will be further more controversies and difficulties ahead. regards / Prafulla vedic astrology, Deepak Chipalkatti <deepakchipalkatti wrote: > > dear prafulla, > as per maharashtra kundali sangraha her birth date is > 09-12-1946, TURIN-ITALY--no birth time is mentioned. > karka lagna and gemini rashi. lagna24-06,ravi > 24-03,moon0930,mangal01-10,budha3-08,guru23,shukra > 24-02,shani15-24rahu18-12,harshal26-45,neptune17-24,plto20- 04.shani,pluto,harshal > retro at birth time. > shani pluto--1st house,nep-3rd house,guru-ven-4th > house,ravi budh ketu--5th house, mangal--mool--6th > house,rahu-harshal--11th house and moon in 12 th > house. > hope this will help you further, > ragards, > deepak. > --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: > > > Dear Deva ji > > > > I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember > > was her karka > > Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting > > 10th has also > > triggered her resignation. > > > > regards / prafulla > > > > vedic astrology, Deva Devan > > <devadevan1008@> wrote: > > > > > > PrafullaJi, > > > But what is her birth time & where is she born > > in Italy? > > > Regards > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun / > > rahu in meena > > > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka > > aspected by rahu..the > > > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct > > motion be more > > > harmful for current Congress headed government in > > India. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > To from this group, send an email > > to: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular > > phones from your PC > > and save big. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Hello, about the last general elections, I had predicted the following in VA before the congress party appointed PM . I had written the following about Mrs. Gandhi. "She is born with Cancer ascendent with retro Sani . My first immediate reaction is, she is going to be in the Driver's seat when Sani is in Kataka and especially when it is Vakra. Whether she will drive herself or if she will choose to be a back seat driver having the puppet stringsin her control , remains to be seen. Her Budha dasa, Kuja Bhukti and Guru antara will see the beginning of Nehru-Gandhi legacy to prevail for next 22 years Time will tell the whole story . Rgds Tatvam-Asi" How remarkable !!! She resigned her seat in parliament and now has emerged as a stronger person and all her critics are licking their wounds. Tatvam-Asi Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: many thanks. For karaka lagna and saturn & guru in transit - on natal positions, is certainly a major effect for her. In my view, once they are direct and move towards bhava madhaya, there will be further more controversies and difficulties ahead. regards / Prafulla vedic astrology, Deepak Chipalkatti <deepakchipalkatti wrote: > > dear prafulla, > as per maharashtra kundali sangraha her birth date is > 09-12-1946, TURIN-ITALY--no birth time is mentioned. > karka lagna and gemini rashi. lagna24-06,ravi > 24-03,moon0930,mangal01-10,budha3-08,guru23,shukra > 24-02,shani15-24rahu18-12,harshal26-45,neptune17-24,plto20- 04.shani,pluto,harshal > retro at birth time. > shani pluto--1st house,nep-3rd house,guru-ven-4th > house,ravi budh ketu--5th house, mangal--mool--6th > house,rahu-harshal--11th house and moon in 12 th > house. > hope this will help you further, > ragards, > deepak. > --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: > > > Dear Deva ji > > > > I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember > > was her karka > > Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting > > 10th has also > > triggered her resignation. > > > > regards / prafulla > > > > vedic astrology, Deva Devan > > <devadevan1008@> wrote: > > > > > > PrafullaJi, > > > But what is her birth time & where is she born > > in Italy? > > > Regards > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun / > > rahu in meena > > > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka > > aspected by rahu..the > > > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct > > motion be more > > > harmful for current Congress headed government in > > India. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > To from this group, send an email > > to: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular > > phones from your PC > > and save big. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Devan ji, thanks for informing another time of birth of Smt Sonia Gandhi. It will change her navamsha chart. We have to go in deep. Only than we will be able to arrive at the correct time. Deva Devan <devadevan1008 wrote: Kursija Ji, Many thanks for the info.From another source, I got the following details.This corresponds to the details given by you, except some difference in birth time.The Ascendant ,as you rightly pointed out is Cancer only, even whilst applying the below mentioned time. Name--Sonia Place---Turin Country---Italy Date of Bith--9 Dec,1946 Time---20:18:00 Regards Dev "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote: Om Shri Gurve Namah Respected list members, According to my record book the date of birth of Smt. Sonia Gandhi is Dec 9,1946, at 21:30 in Turin, Italy.Her Birth Lagna is Cancer, Jupiter and Venus are in 4th house, Mercury,Ketu and Sun in 5th, Mars in 6th, Rahu in 11th and Moon in !2th house. She is running Mercury mahadasha and Rahu antardasa.Though Rahu is exited but is in the nakshtra of Moon, in navamsha is posited in 5th and in D/10 in 10th house,.Mercury being 12th and 3rd lord is malefic for the chart.So dash and antar dasha is not favourable for her.If we see the transit, Mercury is retrograde, transiting 8th house, voluntary resignation, Saturn and Jupiter are also retrograde. Jupiter is transiting4th and Saturn is transiting 9th house. Again indicating loss of office. If she fights her election during the period of Mercury/Jupiter she will face very hard time. Sridhar Govindan <appulali wrote: I believe more than the retrograde guru,budha,sani. It is the eclipse. becoz it hpnd between 2 eclipses she will find it difficult to become a MP again. and becoz there r 3 retrogrades planet she may lose sympathy of the people when they change direction. Budha & Guru become just retrograde so this may trigger religious tensions sometime down the line.students violence? Regards Sridhar --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: > Dear Deva ji > > I do not have Sonia's birth details; what I remember > was her karka > Lagna .. and also retrograde guru in 4th aspecting > 10th has also > triggered her resignation. > > regards / prafulla > > vedic astrology, Deva Devan > <devadevan1008 wrote: > > > > PrafullaJi, > > But what is her birth time & where is she born > in Italy? > > Regards > > Dev > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote: > > Hi > > > > With her karka lagna (what i remeber), is it sun / > rahu in meena > > (sturn's constellation) and saturn in karka > aspected by rahu..the > > reason for her resignation? Will saturn's direct > motion be more > > harmful for current Congress headed government in > India. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > vedic astrology > > > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular > phones from your PC > and save big. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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