Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Dear RCS, we hope this is right, as all celebreities, politicinas keep a lot of fake ones in the air. assuming this is right take a look at the following dates if these are eventful thentime is right. the day transi Mars aspects natal ketu 6-10-06 this day also has some setbacks for his father' as it is Amitab's 8th house with a lot of tenantes in it. 17-11-06 when Mars aspects his Natal Mars 18-11-06--when transit mars is over natal rahU in his lagna 28-12-07 to 26-2-09 is historicial time with a lot of sensitive events happening to him, good and bad some deception, marital break ups etc. all these are danger to to his person, may be involved in some violent act, accident, surgery. the chart is similar to his personality but willtake it with a pinch of salt till the events happen. the Lagna is Tula has Ranu in it Tula is trine to fathers Kumbha Lagna Chandra+Guru in 6th ina Gaja kesari yoga w.r.t Moon. a mann born in a rich family. Mars in 8tha strong Mangalik ketu in 7th and its lord/despoiter in 8th shows a violent and sad marriage., wioth at least one broken marriage. Sani in 10th a sudden meteoric rise and FALL too., may enter politics as well. HE COULD GIVE UP FILMS AFTER 26-2-09 and get in to power politics, and or power, electricity, pharma businesses. Swami Daivyaga <swami_rcs wrote: * Om Gurave Namah * Dear Friend, Gaurav G, I have his chart with DOB 5th February, 1976 TOB 23:56 Bombay. I do not remember the source at the moment. "" gg_0202 Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:24am(PDT) Does anybody have birth details of Abhishek Bachchan??? ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Learned Members, Does anybody have the birthdetails of Abhishek Bachchan??I need it to do some reading. I will be very grateful if somebody helps me out in this case.. Thanking You, Gaurav G. _______________________________ R.C.Srivastava( Consulting Astrologer) 199 MMIG Shaheed nagar,AGRA India. 91-562-2232323 Mob 94122 68768 email: swami_rcs. http://www.cosmograce.com http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Me Shubha Vela Services of this astrologer in the group are free and personal mails, consultations and CHATS ARE CHARGABLE! Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Shubha Vela & other learned members, Of late we are very busy with this hit topic marriage between Abhishek & Aishwarya & their breakup.Often, we make expert comments after any incident & try prove that this was predestined through various measures of prediction(be it backed by the classics or not)...The USP is to prove ourselves correct......it's the most futile thing which I believe...See one who is not thorough with his knowledge, he/ she shouldn't make any expert comment...Though there are few astrologers out here who are very expert, as Mr.R.C. Srivastava for example....also Astrologers are not Gods,they are human & to err is human. The motto of replying to mr. shubha vela's mail is that to make people aware of the topic "Kuja Dosha", a hot topic in Abhishek & Aishwarya's chart. For the last few years, i have seen astrologer's (both in TV,Newspapers & in the net as well)talking of only three things:- 1>Kaal Sarpa Yoga----I donno from which book they have prepared themselves for learning astrology,though am not a professional astrologer, i have studied some classics & adapted from various classics, which doesn't mention any kind of Yoga like Kaal Sarpa Yoga.Some even claim that there are 12 types of kal Sarpa Yoga.My humble query to them-----Sir, Can you please tell us whihc book discusses this yoga in detail??? 2>Saturn's sade sati-Not a bad topic, still i get myself confused when i see people doing good with a bad natal saturn & sade sati... i dont even find books mentioning this transit.Some also talk of Dhaiya..Some even go to extent sade sati & dhaiya with respect to 7 planets(the illiterate astrologers do this to frighten people so that they take those astrologer's refuge & get themselves deceived). 3>Kuja Dosha- Brihat Jyotish Sara says, Mars' position in Lagna,4th,7th,8th,or in 12th house causes "Mangal Dosha" & warns if the girl has it then she becomes "detrimental" or "ominous" to her prospective husband & vice-versa. However, if this Mars is with good quality(guna-yukta)or if both the bride-groom have it, then results of marriage will be normal.Good quality (guna-yukta) here means,the condition of planet( as exalted, in own house, Mooltrikona, benefic aspect, friend's aspect, in own vargas etc) The book again says that if Saturn or Rahu occupies any of the above said houses(i.e.1,4,7,8,12houses), then the Kuja Dosha gets totally nullified(Bhaumadoshabhangayoga or KujadoshabhangaYoga).I am quite sure that most of the astrologers don't check or dont know this rule of Kuja Dosha Bhangayoga.i have seen astrologers considering Kuja dosha from other planets(when it should be considered only from Lagna & none else) Well, let's look at Aishwarya's Chart As per the data I have, she is of Kanya Lagna, Mars occupying 8th house(i.e. Aries, own house of Mars).We know if Mars occupies 1,4,7,8,or 12th house, then it results into Kuja Dosha, but in Aishwarya's chart though Mars is posted in 8th house, it is guna- yukta( or with good quality), so the Dosha reduces by 75%. Again in her chart Rahu is posted in 4th house, thus nullifying the Kuja dosha, & its no more Kuja Dosha, its Kuja Dosha Bhanga Yoga. Now let's Look at Abhishek bachchan's chart. He is born in Libra Lagna, with Rahu in Lagna & Mars in 8th.Here Mars is not in own House, but in 8th results into Kuja Dosha, but nullified by the presence of Rahu in Lagna(as per Brihat Jyotish Sarah), so its only KujaDoshaBhangaYogah. So, both of the natives have got their Kuja Dosha nullified...Here Mr.Shubha Vela, didn't consider these factors(nullifying of Kuja Dosha, probably didn't do it intentionally or overlooked). If the learned members find this letter in use, then i will consider my learning to be fruitful.I will check the marital happiness later. My Best Wishes to this group & all Members, With Humbleness, Gaurav G. vedic astrology, Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti wrote: > > Dear RCS, > > we hope this is right, as all celebreities, politicinas keep a lot of fake ones in the air. > > assuming this is right take a look at the following dates if these are eventful thentime is right. > > the day transi Mars aspects natal ketu > > 6-10-06 this day also has some setbacks for his father' as it is Amitab's 8th house with a lot of tenantes in it. > > 17-11-06 when Mars aspects his Natal Mars > 18-11-06--when transit mars is over natal rahU in his lagna > > 28-12-07 to 26-2-09 is historicial time with a lot of sensitive events happening to him, good and bad some deception, marital break ups etc. > > all these are danger to to his person, may be involved in some violent act, accident, surgery. > > the chart is similar to his personality but willtake it with a pinch of salt till the events happen. > > the Lagna is Tula has Ranu in it Tula is trine to fathers Kumbha Lagna > Chandra+Guru in 6th ina Gaja kesari yoga w.r.t Moon. a mann born in a rich family. > Mars in 8tha strong Mangalik > ketu in 7th and its lord/despoiter in 8th shows a violent and sad marriage., wioth at least one broken marriage. > Sani in 10th a sudden meteoric rise and FALL too., may enter politics as well. > > > HE COULD GIVE UP FILMS AFTER 26-2-09 and get in to power politics, and or power, electricity, pharma businesses. > > > Swami Daivyaga <swami_rcs wrote: > * Om Gurave Namah * > Dear Friend, > Gaurav G, > I have his chart with DOB 5th February, 1976 > TOB 23:56 Bombay. > I do not remember the source at the moment. > > > "" gg_0202 > Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:24am(PDT) > Does anybody have birth details of Abhishek Bachchan??? > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Learned Members, > Does anybody have the birthdetails of Abhishek Bachchan??I need it to > do some reading. > I will be very grateful if somebody helps me out in this case.. > Thanking You, > Gaurav G. > > > > _______________________________ > R.C.Srivastava( Consulting Astrologer) > 199 MMIG Shaheed nagar,AGRA > India. 91-562-2232323 > Mob 94122 68768 > email: swami_rcs > http://www.cosmograce.com > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Me Shubha Vela > > Services of this astrologer in the group are free and personal mails, consultations and CHATS ARE CHARGABLE! > > > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Shubha Vela & other learned members, Of late we are very busy with this hit topic marriage between Abhishek & Aishwarya & their breakup.Often, we make expert comments after any incident & try prove that this was predestined through various measures of prediction(be it backed by the classics or not)...The USP is to prove ourselves correct......it's the most futile thing which I believe...See one who is not thorough with his knowledge, he/ she shouldn't make any expert comment...Though there are few astrologers out here who are very expert, as Mr.R.C. Srivastava for example....also Astrologers are not Gods,they are human & to err is human. The motto of replying to mr. shubha vela's mail is that to make people aware of the topic "Kuja Dosha", a hot topic in Abhishek & Aishwarya's chart. For the last few years, i have seen astrologer's (both in TV,Newspapers & in the net as well)talking of only three things:- 1>Kaal Sarpa Yoga----I donno from which book they have prepared themselves for learning astrology,though am not a professional astrologer, i have studied some classics & adapted from various classics, which doesn't mention any kind of Yoga like Kaal Sarpa Yoga.Some even claim that there are 12 types of kal Sarpa Yoga.My humble query to them-----Sir, Can you please tell us whihc book discusses this yoga in detail??? 2>Saturn's sade sati-Not a bad topic, still i get myself confused when i see people doing good with a bad natal saturn & sade sati... i dont even find books mentioning this transit.Some also talk of Dhaiya..Some even go to extent sade sati & dhaiya with respect to 7 planets(the illiterate astrologers do this to frighten people so that they take those astrologer's refuge & get themselves deceived). 3>Kuja Dosha- Brihat Jyotish Sara says, Mars' position in Lagna,4th,7th,8th,or in 12th house causes "Mangal Dosha" & warns if the girl has it then she becomes "detrimental" or "ominous" to her prospective husband & vice-versa. However, if this Mars is with good quality(guna-yukta)or if both the bride-groom have it, then results of marriage will be normal.Good quality (guna-yukta) here means,the condition of planet( as exalted, in own house, Mooltrikona, benefic aspect, friend's aspect, in own vargas etc) The book again says that if Saturn or Rahu occupies any of the above said houses(i.e.1,4,7,8,12houses), then the Kuja Dosha gets totally nullified(Bhaumadoshabhangayoga or KujadoshabhangaYoga).I am quite sure that most of the astrologers don't check or dont know this rule of Kuja Dosha Bhangayoga.i have seen astrologers considering Kuja dosha from other planets(when it should be considered only from Lagna & none else) Well, let's look at Aishwarya's Chart As per the data I have, she is of Kanya Lagna, Mars occupying 8th house(i.e. Aries, own house of Mars).We know if Mars occupies 1,4,7,8,or 12th house, then it results into Kuja Dosha, but in Aishwarya's chart though Mars is posted in 8th house, it is guna- yukta( or with good quality), so the Dosha reduces by 75%. Again in her chart Rahu is posted in 4th house, thus nullifying the Kuja dosha, & its no more Kuja Dosha, its Kuja Dosha Bhanga Yoga. Now let's Look at Abhishek bachchan's chart. He is born in Libra Lagna, with Rahu in Lagna & Mars in 8th.Here Mars is not in own House, but in 8th results into Kuja Dosha, but nullified by the presence of Rahu in Lagna(as per Brihat Jyotish Sarah), so its only KujaDoshaBhangaYogah. So, both of the natives have got their Kuja Dosha nullified...Here Mr.Shubha Vela, didn't consider these factors(nullifying of Kuja Dosha, probably didn't do it intentionally or overlooked). If the learned members find this letter in use, then i will consider my learning to be fruitful.I will check the marital happiness later. My Best Wishes to this group & all Members, With Humbleness, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 GG, THIS IS HYPROCRASY, one side saying you are no master and in another questioning mine and others knowledge, what gives you the wisdom to say either way- theY are good or bad. I DID NOT MAKE Any THE NOTINGs ON K S Y Or Sade Sat but Mars in 8th as Manglik MANGLIK/KUJA dosha is insurace for women built by our soical values to protect women, who were dependent on their parents , brothers, or in-laws , if their husbands died early but was misused and ill-treated them. also this became a curse on such women's chart wehere Kuja dosha was present. NOW AS WOMEN are self sufficient we can ignore all but 7, 8th house locations as here it is a threat to life itself. due to the union. as the partner with extra Kuja dosha will dominate the other person,if it is equal dosha to be matched 7th with 7th and 8th with 8th as seems to be case here by chance, good. the book u quoted Brihat Jataka Sare is insignificent surely how can a malefic relieve the Dosha the only modification for Kuja dosha is Giuru's aspect. and Kataka, Simha, MEsha, Vrischika are free from it BRIHAT JATAKA, PHALA DEEPIKA, UTTARA KALAMRUTHA. I donpt consider it as a major dosh for 1,4, 12th houses or from OTHER gtrahas like chandra, sukra etc. for reasonsaid above women are secure now. we have to treat the laws withthe age, conditions we live in. AND YOUR HASTE IN READING CELEBRITIES CHARTS SHOWS that you want to show off than look at waht I said no one know the time is right. AND Aish looks/features are Tula not Kanya, so rest is up to your esteemed selves to coment, write for entertainment and enjoy urself, this is not astrology nor they have any social, personal bearing. THE DATES I GAVE FOR ABHISKEK IS TO PROVE THE PHYSICAL DANGER I'VE SAID WELL AHEAD , I AM NOT SCARED LIKE YOU so have given advance info, time will tell if the data is right the events must HAPPEN, I am not god, sure u may be the way u written. for that combination that is the result at that time. TIME WILL TELL. btw shuba vela means good, auspicious times.... . <gg_0202 wrote: ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Shubha Vela & other learned members, Of late we are very busy with this hit topic marriage between Abhishek & Aishwarya & their breakup.Often, we make expert comments after any incident & try prove that this was predestined through various measures of prediction(be it backed by the classics or not)...The USP is to prove ourselves correct......it's the most futile thing which I believe...See one who is not thorough with his knowledge, he/ she shouldn't make any expert comment...Though there are few astrologers out here who are very expert, as Mr.R.C. Srivastava for example....also Astrologers are not Gods,they are human & to err is human. The motto of replying to mr. shubha vela's mail is that to make people aware of the topic "Kuja Dosha", a hot topic in Abhishek & Aishwarya's chart. For the last few years, i have seen astrologer's (both in TV,Newspapers & in the net as well)talking of only three things:- 1>Kaal Sarpa Yoga----I donno from which book they have prepared themselves for learning astrology,though am not a professional astrologer, i have studied some classics & adapted from various classics, which doesn't mention any kind of Yoga like Kaal Sarpa Yoga.Some even claim that there are 12 types of kal Sarpa Yoga.My humble query to them-----Sir, Can you please tell us whihc book discusses this yoga in detail??? 2>Saturn's sade sati-Not a bad topic, still i get myself confused when i see people doing good with a bad natal saturn & sade sati... i dont even find books mentioning this transit.Some also talk of Dhaiya..Some even go to extent sade sati & dhaiya with respect to 7 planets(the illiterate astrologers do this to frighten people so that they take those astrologer's refuge & get themselves deceived). 3>Kuja Dosha- Brihat Jyotish Sara says, Mars' position in Lagna,4th,7th,8th,or in 12th house causes "Mangal Dosha" & warns if the girl has it then she becomes "detrimental" or "ominous" to her prospective husband & vice-versa. However, if this Mars is with good quality(guna-yukta)or if both the bride-groom have it, then results of marriage will be normal.Good quality (guna-yukta) here means,the condition of planet( as exalted, in own house, Mooltrikona, benefic aspect, friend's aspect, in own vargas etc) The book again says that if Saturn or Rahu occupies any of the above said houses(i.e.1,4,7,8,12houses), then the Kuja Dosha gets totally nullified(Bhaumadoshabhangayoga or KujadoshabhangaYoga).I am quite sure that most of the astrologers don't check or dont know this rule of Kuja Dosha Bhangayoga.i have seen astrologers considering Kuja dosha from other planets(when it should be considered only from Lagna & none else) Well, let's look at Aishwarya's Chart As per the data I have, she is of Kanya Lagna, Mars occupying 8th house(i.e. Aries, own house of Mars).We know if Mars occupies 1,4,7,8,or 12th house, then it results into Kuja Dosha, but in Aishwarya's chart though Mars is posted in 8th house, it is guna- yukta( or with good quality), so the Dosha reduces by 75%. Again in her chart Rahu is posted in 4th house, thus nullifying the Kuja dosha, & its no more Kuja Dosha, its Kuja Dosha Bhanga Yoga. Now let's Look at Abhishek bachchan's chart. He is born in Libra Lagna, with Rahu in Lagna & Mars in 8th.Here Mars is not in own House, but in 8th results into Kuja Dosha, but nullified by the presence of Rahu in Lagna(as per Brihat Jyotish Sarah), so its only KujaDoshaBhangaYogah. So, both of the natives have got their Kuja Dosha nullified...Here Mr.Shubha Vela, didn't consider these factors(nullifying of Kuja Dosha, probably didn't do it intentionally or overlooked). If the learned members find this letter in use, then i will consider my learning to be fruitful.I will check the marital happiness later. My Best Wishes to this group & all Members, With Humbleness, Gaurav G. vedic astrology, Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti wrote: > > Dear RCS, > > we hope this is right, as all celebreities, politicinas keep a lot of fake ones in the air. > > assuming this is right take a look at the following dates if these are eventful thentime is right. > > the day transi Mars aspects natal ketu > > 6-10-06 this day also has some setbacks for his father' as it is Amitab's 8th house with a lot of tenantes in it. > > 17-11-06 when Mars aspects his Natal Mars > 18-11-06--when transit mars is over natal rahU in his lagna > > 28-12-07 to 26-2-09 is historicial time with a lot of sensitive events happening to him, good and bad some deception, marital break ups etc. > > all these are danger to to his person, may be involved in some violent act, accident, surgery. > > the chart is similar to his personality but willtake it with a pinch of salt till the events happen. > > the Lagna is Tula has Ranu in it Tula is trine to fathers Kumbha Lagna > Chandra+Guru in 6th ina Gaja kesari yoga w.r.t Moon. a mann born in a rich family. > Mars in 8tha strong Mangalik > ketu in 7th and its lord/despoiter in 8th shows a violent and sad marriage., wioth at least one broken marriage. > Sani in 10th a sudden meteoric rise and FALL too., may enter politics as well. > > > HE COULD GIVE UP FILMS AFTER 26-2-09 and get in to power politics, and or power, electricity, pharma businesses. > > > Swami Daivyaga <swami_rcs wrote: > * Om Gurave Namah * > Dear Friend, > Gaurav G, > I have his chart with DOB 5th February, 1976 > TOB 23:56 Bombay. > I do not remember the source at the moment. > > > "" gg_0202 > Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:24am(PDT) > Does anybody have birth details of Abhishek Bachchan??? > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Learned Members, > Does anybody have the birthdetails of Abhishek Bachchan??I need it to > do some reading. > I will be very grateful if somebody helps me out in this case.. > Thanking You, > Gaurav G. > > > > _______________________________ > R.C.Srivastava( Consulting Astrologer) > 199 MMIG Shaheed nagar,AGRA > India. 91-562-2232323 > Mob 94122 68768 > email: swami_rcs > http://www.cosmograce.com > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Me Shubha Vela > > Services of this astrologer in the group are free and personal mails, consultations and CHATS ARE CHARGABLE! > > > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Me Shubha Vela Services of this astrologer in the group are free and personal mails, consultations and CHATS ARE CHARGABLE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 dear friend gaurav mr. shubha vela gave a "prediction" of the abhishek-aishwarya marriage and not any hindsight analysis which has become the easiest USP as you mentioned. whether his prediction would come true or not, only time will tell. by the way my own "prediction" is that their marriage is difficult in first place and they would be separated. if you dont agree to this observation, let this be my view and let your view be yours. we dont engage in criticism of one another. i personally preach and practice that a "prediction" of one astrologer shall not be criticised by another even if he differs. this is what one astrologer sees and you may see some thing different in the same chart or see the same chart differently. for example when all astrologers including the most eminent of this group are forecasting rosy days for mahajan, if another astrologer finds that he would not survive he may give his prediction but he will definitely not criticise all those astrologers who predicted that mahajan would survive. some astrologers have even given months and years when he will come back to power after some time. only time will tell whether these predictions would come true or not. i personally appreciate your observations on all the modern man invented yogas which do not find place in the original classics in the first place. however, when a native has convinced himself that he is suffering from a non-existent dosha and is mentally demoralised, if he is advised a remedy to do some pooja, he would be mentally relieved of that dosha. if you try to educate the native that he does not have any dosha, chances are that he would go to another astrologer to get a remedy. so in the first place itself, if you suggest him to visit a temple or recite a mantra invoking a god, you are doing no harm as visiting a temple or chanting a mantra involve no expenditure and are good irrespective of whether the native has the dosha or not or the dosha has supportive references from the scriptures or not. for academic purpose or for writing books or for making presentations, we can debate on all these non existing yogas viz. manglik yoga, kaalsarpa yoga, neechabhanga rajayoga, grahan yoga etc. but when comes to serving the native who approaches with these problems, our objective shall be to get him relief and not educate him by giving references from BPHS or various samhitas or nadi books. with best wishes pandit arjun vedic astrology, "" <gg_0202 wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Shubha Vela & other learned members, > Of late we are very busy with this hit topic marriage between > Abhishek & Aishwarya & their breakup.Often, we make expert comments > after any incident & try prove that this was predestined through > various measures of prediction(be it backed by the classics or > not)...The USP is to prove ourselves correct......it's the most > futile thing which I believe...See one who is not thorough with his > knowledge, he/ she shouldn't make any expert comment...Though there > are few astrologers out here who are very expert, as Mr.R.C. > Srivastava for example....also Astrologers are not Gods,they are > human & to err is human. > The motto of replying to mr. shubha vela's mail is that to make > people aware of the topic "Kuja Dosha", a hot topic in Abhishek & > Aishwarya's chart. For the last few years, i have seen astrologer's > (both in TV,Newspapers & in the net as well)talking of only three > things:- > 1>Kaal Sarpa Yoga----I donno from which book they have prepared > themselves for learning astrology,though am not a professional > astrologer, i have studied some classics & adapted from various > classics, which doesn't mention any kind of Yoga like Kaal Sarpa > Yoga.Some even claim that there are 12 types of kal Sarpa Yoga.My > humble query to them-----Sir, Can you please tell us whihc book > discusses this yoga in detail??? > 2>Saturn's sade sati-Not a bad topic, still i get myself confused > when i see people doing good with a bad natal saturn & sade sati... > i dont even find books mentioning this transit.Some also talk of > Dhaiya..Some even go to extent sade sati & dhaiya with respect to 7 > planets(the illiterate astrologers do this to frighten people so > that they take those astrologer's refuge & get themselves deceived). > 3>Kuja Dosha- Brihat Jyotish Sara says, Mars' position in > Lagna,4th,7th,8th,or in 12th house causes "Mangal Dosha" & warns if > the girl has it then she becomes "detrimental" or "ominous" to her > prospective husband & vice-versa. However, if this Mars is with good > quality(guna-yukta)or if both the bride-groom have it, then results > of marriage will be normal.Good quality (guna-yukta) here means,the > condition of planet( as exalted, in own house, Mooltrikona, benefic > aspect, friend's aspect, in own vargas etc) > The book again says that if Saturn or Rahu occupies any of the above > said houses(i.e.1,4,7,8,12houses), then the Kuja Dosha gets totally > nullified(Bhaumadoshabhangayoga or KujadoshabhangaYoga).I am quite > sure that most of the astrologers don't check or dont know this rule > of Kuja Dosha Bhangayoga.i have seen astrologers considering Kuja > dosha from other planets(when it should be considered only from > Lagna & none else) > Well, let's look at Aishwarya's Chart > As per the data I have, she is of Kanya Lagna, Mars occupying 8th > house(i.e. Aries, own house of Mars).We know if Mars occupies > 1,4,7,8,or 12th house, then it results into Kuja Dosha, but in > Aishwarya's chart though Mars is posted in 8th house, it is guna- > yukta( or with good quality), so the Dosha reduces by 75%. Again in > her chart Rahu is posted in 4th house, thus nullifying the Kuja > dosha, & its no more Kuja Dosha, its Kuja Dosha Bhanga Yoga. > Now let's Look at Abhishek bachchan's chart. > He is born in Libra Lagna, with Rahu in Lagna & Mars in 8th.Here > Mars is not in own House, but in 8th results into Kuja Dosha, but > nullified by the presence of Rahu in Lagna(as per Brihat Jyotish > Sarah), so its only KujaDoshaBhangaYogah. > So, both of the natives have got their Kuja Dosha nullified...Here > Mr.Shubha Vela, didn't consider these factors(nullifying of Kuja > Dosha, probably didn't do it intentionally or overlooked). > If the learned members find this letter in use, then i will consider > my learning to be fruitful.I will check the marital happiness later. > My Best Wishes to this group & all Members, > With Humbleness, > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Pandit Arjuna, Thank your for replying to my message.Apparently it might seem that I have criticised to what Mr. Shubha Vela has predicted,but I don't have the intention to criticise anybody be it regarding prediction etc.I have mentioned in my mail that Mr.Shubha Vela might have overlooked the cancellation of Mangal Dosha already present in their viz. Abhishek & Aishwarya's chart. I am not a professional Astrologer, but do it as a hobby, though i consider myself thankful as i have been able to cater a lot of people through astrology...often people come to me, saying that somebody have told them their daughter have Kal sarpa yoga & have come to get it verified from me, i tell them there is no Yoga like that & people have contrived this so called "Kal Sarpa Yoga" to earn living. Last year, my friend was worried about his sister's marriage & came to me telling that his sister not getting married for She has kuja dosha. I checked her chart & found that She has got mangal dosha cancelled in her chart, & i told her that she will get married within december 2005, & got married in the month of August,2005.Neither I am advertising nor blowing my trumpet, but telling how people get deceived by these astrologers. To be frank, today has become an easiest way of living...u need to study the subject even, just learn three things-kal sarpa yoga, Mangal dosha & sade sati...appear on the TV tell people all bogus, so that take refuge at you & u finally deceive them...this has become the trend & become qt angry as i see things going like this... Wish u all success, . vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friend gaurav > > mr. shubha vela gave a "prediction" of the abhishek-aishwarya > marriage and not any hindsight analysis which has become the easiest > USP as you mentioned. whether his prediction would come true or > not, only time will tell. by the way my own "prediction" is that > their marriage is difficult in first place and they would be > separated. if you dont agree to this observation, let this be my > view and let your view be yours. we dont engage in criticism of one > another. > > i personally preach and practice that a "prediction" of one > astrologer shall not be criticised by another even if he differs. > this is what one astrologer sees and you may see some thing > different in the same chart or see the same chart differently. for > example when all astrologers including the most eminent of this > group are forecasting rosy days for mahajan, if another astrologer > finds that he would not survive he may give his prediction but he > will definitely not criticise all those astrologers who predicted > that mahajan would survive. some astrologers have even given months > and years when he will come back to power after some time. only > time will tell whether these predictions would come true or not. > > i personally appreciate your observations on all the modern man > invented yogas which do not find place in the original classics in > the first place. however, when a native has convinced himself that > he is suffering from a non-existent dosha and is mentally > demoralised, if he is advised a remedy to do some pooja, he would be > mentally relieved of that dosha. if you try to educate the native > that he does not have any dosha, chances are that he would go to > another astrologer to get a remedy. so in the first place itself, > if you suggest him to visit a temple or recite a mantra invoking a > god, you are doing no harm as visiting a temple or chanting a mantra > involve no expenditure and are good irrespective of whether the > native has the dosha or not or the dosha has supportive references > from the scriptures or not. > > for academic purpose or for writing books or for making > presentations, we can debate on all these non existing yogas viz. > manglik yoga, kaalsarpa yoga, neechabhanga rajayoga, grahan yoga > etc. but when comes to serving the native who approaches with these > problems, our objective shall be to get him relief and not educate > him by giving references from BPHS or various samhitas or nadi books. > > with best wishes > pandit arjun > > vedic astrology, "" <gg_0202@> > wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Shubha Vela & other learned members, > > Of late we are very busy with this hit topic marriage between > > Abhishek & Aishwarya & their breakup.Often, we make expert > comments > > after any incident & try prove that this was predestined through > > various measures of prediction(be it backed by the classics or > > not)...The USP is to prove ourselves correct......it's the most > > futile thing which I believe...See one who is not thorough with > his > > knowledge, he/ she shouldn't make any expert comment...Though > there > > are few astrologers out here who are very expert, as Mr.R.C. > > Srivastava for example....also Astrologers are not Gods,they are > > human & to err is human. > > The motto of replying to mr. shubha vela's mail is that to make > > people aware of the topic "Kuja Dosha", a hot topic in Abhishek & > > Aishwarya's chart. For the last few years, i have seen astrologer's > > (both in TV,Newspapers & in the net as well)talking of only three > > things:- > > 1>Kaal Sarpa Yoga----I donno from which book they have prepared > > themselves for learning astrology,though am not a professional > > astrologer, i have studied some classics & adapted from various > > classics, which doesn't mention any kind of Yoga like Kaal Sarpa > > Yoga.Some even claim that there are 12 types of kal Sarpa Yoga.My > > humble query to them-----Sir, Can you please tell us whihc book > > discusses this yoga in detail??? > > 2>Saturn's sade sati-Not a bad topic, still i get myself confused > > when i see people doing good with a bad natal saturn & sade sati... > > i dont even find books mentioning this transit.Some also talk of > > Dhaiya..Some even go to extent sade sati & dhaiya with respect to > 7 > > planets(the illiterate astrologers do this to frighten people so > > that they take those astrologer's refuge & get themselves > deceived). > > 3>Kuja Dosha- Brihat Jyotish Sara says, Mars' position in > > Lagna,4th,7th,8th,or in 12th house causes "Mangal Dosha" & warns > if > > the girl has it then she becomes "detrimental" or "ominous" to her > > prospective husband & vice-versa. However, if this Mars is with > good > > quality(guna-yukta)or if both the bride-groom have it, then > results > > of marriage will be normal.Good quality (guna-yukta) here > means,the > > condition of planet( as exalted, in own house, Mooltrikona, > benefic > > aspect, friend's aspect, in own vargas etc) > > The book again says that if Saturn or Rahu occupies any of the > above > > said houses(i.e.1,4,7,8,12houses), then the Kuja Dosha gets > totally > > nullified(Bhaumadoshabhangayoga or KujadoshabhangaYoga).I am quite > > sure that most of the astrologers don't check or dont know this > rule > > of Kuja Dosha Bhangayoga.i have seen astrologers considering Kuja > > dosha from other planets(when it should be considered only from > > Lagna & none else) > > Well, let's look at Aishwarya's Chart > > As per the data I have, she is of Kanya Lagna, Mars occupying 8th > > house(i.e. Aries, own house of Mars).We know if Mars occupies > > 1,4,7,8,or 12th house, then it results into Kuja Dosha, but in > > Aishwarya's chart though Mars is posted in 8th house, it is guna- > > yukta( or with good quality), so the Dosha reduces by 75%. Again > in > > her chart Rahu is posted in 4th house, thus nullifying the Kuja > > dosha, & its no more Kuja Dosha, its Kuja Dosha Bhanga Yoga. > > Now let's Look at Abhishek bachchan's chart. > > He is born in Libra Lagna, with Rahu in Lagna & Mars in 8th.Here > > Mars is not in own House, but in 8th results into Kuja Dosha, but > > nullified by the presence of Rahu in Lagna(as per Brihat Jyotish > > Sarah), so its only KujaDoshaBhangaYogah. > > So, both of the natives have got their Kuja Dosha nullified...Here > > Mr.Shubha Vela, didn't consider these factors(nullifying of Kuja > > Dosha, probably didn't do it intentionally or overlooked). > > If the learned members find this letter in use, then i will > consider > > my learning to be fruitful.I will check the marital happiness > later. > > My Best Wishes to this group & all Members, > > With Humbleness, > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mr. Shubha Vela, probably u dint read my mail properly.Neither i questioned your knowledge...but i questioned their knowledge who practises this divine subject, knowing nothing.If u haven't read my properly,please go through again.... Also go through my 2nd mail,reply to Mr.Arjun. The Astrologers Society constitute not only the learned members of this group, but all those who sit in the roadside with a parrot & reading tarot cards. It is a great shame for us that we dint oragnise & preserve our Holy subject...& for this reason Astrology itself is now a matter of question whether it is scientific or not. I dint read the celebrity's charts for matchmaking...just clarified the matter of Kuja Dosha..not the matchmaking...!!! For your information, Kuja dosha is not only for women but for men also..."Kanya harati bhartaaram bhartaa bhaaryaam hanishyati"- meaning if the bride has it then the groom suffers or dies(the reason being the girl) & if the groom has Kuja Dosha then the bride suffers or dies(the reason being groom itself). Its your problem whether you pay any attention to our Classics & whether you follow the principle laid by our Rishis for considering Kuja Dosha...its totally your decision & custom whether u'll c only 7th house or 8th house.... All your personal considerations & i dont think its necessary to intefere n rectify you....i find ppl often misguided...so try to rectify that mistake by giving instances..... our Sages were 1000 times intelligent than we r....& they considered Lagna,4th house,7th house,8th house & 12th house has a valid reason & i dont want share that knowledge if u r not interested... I dint make any haste decision...i came to know that they were manglik thru the newspaper so though of rectifying if necessary... if the Guru is debilitated & if it is aspecting the weak mars,even then the dosha doesnot get cancelled....there are other combos as well....I have talked about this before & anybody is interested to know the verse, i can quote it for them also(with the translation)... I dont need to explain the meaning of my name....its self- explanatory.... Wish you all success & may paramatman bless you all.... . vedic astrology, Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti wrote: > > GG, > THIS IS HYPROCRASY, one side saying you are no master and in another questioning mine and others knowledge, what gives you the wisdom to say either way- theY are good or bad. > > I DID NOT MAKE Any THE NOTINGs ON > > K S Y > Or Sade Sat > but Mars in 8th as Manglik > > MANGLIK/KUJA dosha is insurace for women built by our soical values to protect women, who were dependent on their parents , brothers, or in-laws , if their husbands died early but was misused and ill-treated them. also this became a curse on such women's chart wehere Kuja dosha was present. > > NOW AS WOMEN are self sufficient we can ignore all but 7, 8th house locations as here it is a threat to life itself. due to the union. > > as the partner with extra Kuja dosha will dominate the other person,if it is equal dosha to be matched 7th with 7th and 8th with 8th as seems to be case here by chance, good. > > the book u quoted Brihat Jataka Sare is insignificent surely how can a malefic relieve the Dosha the only modification for Kuja dosha is Giuru's aspect. > and Kataka, Simha, MEsha, Vrischika are free from it BRIHAT JATAKA, PHALA DEEPIKA, UTTARA KALAMRUTHA. > > I donpt consider it as a major dosh for 1,4, 12th houses or from OTHER gtrahas like chandra, sukra etc. for reasonsaid above women are secure now. we have to treat the laws withthe age, conditions we live in. > > AND YOUR HASTE IN READING CELEBRITIES CHARTS SHOWS that you want to show off than look at waht I said no one know the time is right. > > AND Aish looks/features are Tula not Kanya, so rest is up to your esteemed selves to coment, write for entertainment and enjoy urself, this is not astrology nor they have any social, personal bearing. > > THE DATES I GAVE FOR ABHISKEK IS TO PROVE THE PHYSICAL DANGER I'VE SAID WELL AHEAD , I AM NOT SCARED LIKE YOU so have given advance info, time will tell if the data is right the events must HAPPEN, I am not god, sure u may be the way u written. > > for that combination that is the result at that time. TIME WILL TELL. > > btw shuba vela means good, auspicious times.... > . > <gg_0202 wrote: ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Shubha Vela & other learned members, > Of late we are very busy with this hit topic marriage between > Abhishek & Aishwarya & their breakup.Often, we make expert comments > after any incident & try prove that this was predestined through > various measures of prediction(be it backed by the classics or > not)...The USP is to prove ourselves correct......it's the most > futile thing which I believe...See one who is not thorough with his > knowledge, he/ she shouldn't make any expert comment...Though there > are few astrologers out here who are very expert, as Mr.R.C. > Srivastava for example....also Astrologers are not Gods,they are > human & to err is human. > The motto of replying to mr. shubha vela's mail is that to make > people aware of the topic "Kuja Dosha", a hot topic in Abhishek & > Aishwarya's chart. For the last few years, i have seen astrologer's > (both in TV,Newspapers & in the net as well)talking of only three > things:- > 1>Kaal Sarpa Yoga----I donno from which book they have prepared > themselves for learning astrology,though am not a professional > astrologer, i have studied some classics & adapted from various > classics, which doesn't mention any kind of Yoga like Kaal Sarpa > Yoga.Some even claim that there are 12 types of kal Sarpa Yoga.My > humble query to them-----Sir, Can you please tell us whihc book > discusses this yoga in detail??? > 2>Saturn's sade sati-Not a bad topic, still i get myself confused > when i see people doing good with a bad natal saturn & sade sati... > i dont even find books mentioning this transit.Some also talk of > Dhaiya..Some even go to extent sade sati & dhaiya with respect to 7 > planets(the illiterate astrologers do this to frighten people so > that they take those astrologer's refuge & get themselves deceived). > 3>Kuja Dosha- Brihat Jyotish Sara says, Mars' position in > Lagna,4th,7th,8th,or in 12th house causes "Mangal Dosha" & warns if > the girl has it then she becomes "detrimental" or "ominous" to her > prospective husband & vice-versa. However, if this Mars is with good > quality(guna-yukta)or if both the bride-groom have it, then results > of marriage will be normal.Good quality (guna-yukta) here means,the > condition of planet( as exalted, in own house, Mooltrikona, benefic > aspect, friend's aspect, in own vargas etc) > The book again says that if Saturn or Rahu occupies any of the above > said houses(i.e.1,4,7,8,12houses), then the Kuja Dosha gets totally > nullified(Bhaumadoshabhangayoga or KujadoshabhangaYoga).I am quite > sure that most of the astrologers don't check or dont know this rule > of Kuja Dosha Bhangayoga.i have seen astrologers considering Kuja > dosha from other planets(when it should be considered only from > Lagna & none else) > Well, let's look at Aishwarya's Chart > As per the data I have, she is of Kanya Lagna, Mars occupying 8th > house(i.e. Aries, own house of Mars).We know if Mars occupies > 1,4,7,8,or 12th house, then it results into Kuja Dosha, but in > Aishwarya's chart though Mars is posted in 8th house, it is guna- > yukta( or with good quality), so the Dosha reduces by 75%. Again in > her chart Rahu is posted in 4th house, thus nullifying the Kuja > dosha, & its no more Kuja Dosha, its Kuja Dosha Bhanga Yoga. > Now let's Look at Abhishek bachchan's chart. > He is born in Libra Lagna, with Rahu in Lagna & Mars in 8th.Here > Mars is not in own House, but in 8th results into Kuja Dosha, but > nullified by the presence of Rahu in Lagna(as per Brihat Jyotish > Sarah), so its only KujaDoshaBhangaYogah. > So, both of the natives have got their Kuja Dosha nullified...Here > Mr.Shubha Vela, didn't consider these factors(nullifying of Kuja > Dosha, probably didn't do it intentionally or overlooked). > If the learned members find this letter in use, then i will consider > my learning to be fruitful.I will check the marital happiness later. > My Best Wishes to this group & all Members, > With Humbleness, > Gaurav G. > > > vedic astrology, Me Shubha Vela > <pkgoteti@> wrote: > > > > Dear RCS, > > > > we hope this is right, as all celebreities, politicinas keep a > lot of fake ones in the air. > > > > assuming this is right take a look at the following dates if > these are eventful thentime is right. > > > > the day transi Mars aspects natal ketu > > > > 6-10-06 this day also has some setbacks for his father' as it > is Amitab's 8th house with a lot of tenantes in it. > > > > 17-11-06 when Mars aspects his Natal Mars > > 18-11-06--when transit mars is over natal rahU in his lagna > > > > 28-12-07 to 26-2-09 is historicial time with a lot of sensitive > events happening to him, good and bad some deception, marital break > ups etc. > > > > all these are danger to to his person, may be involved in some > violent act, accident, surgery. > > > > the chart is similar to his personality but willtake it with a > pinch of salt till the events happen. > > > > the Lagna is Tula has Ranu in it Tula is trine to fathers Kumbha > Lagna > > Chandra+Guru in 6th ina Gaja kesari yoga w.r.t Moon. a mann born > in a rich family. > > Mars in 8tha strong Mangalik > > ketu in 7th and its lord/despoiter in 8th shows a violent and > sad marriage., wioth at least one broken marriage. > > Sani in 10th a sudden meteoric rise and FALL too., may enter > politics as well. > > > > > > HE COULD GIVE UP FILMS AFTER 26-2-09 and get in to power > politics, and or power, electricity, pharma businesses. > > > > > > Swami Daivyaga <swami_rcs@> wrote: > > * Om Gurave Namah * > > Dear Friend, > > Gaurav G, > > I have his chart with DOB 5th February, 1976 > > TOB 23:56 Bombay. > > I do not remember the source at the moment. > > > > > > "" gg_0202@ > > Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:24am(PDT) > > Does anybody have birth details of Abhishek Bachchan??? > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Learned Members, > > Does anybody have the birthdetails of Abhishek Bachchan??I need > it to > > do some reading. > > I will be very grateful if somebody helps me out in this case.. > > Thanking You, > > Gaurav G. > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > > R.C.Srivastava( Consulting Astrologer) > > 199 MMIG Shaheed nagar,AGRA > > India. 91-562-2232323 > > Mob 94122 68768 > > email: swami_rcs@ > > http://www.cosmograce.com > > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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