Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Thanks to Mr. (gg_0202 ). I'm very much kind to this Well experienced young Astrologer; who have not only solved my problem , but uncovered some dark facts put by some money eating Astrologers. I must suggest people or members & well respected astronomers; who are still trying to catch some stars/planets of Pramod Mahajan & TN- CM; who are no more with us. Try to solve the problem; of the people who really need help & their messages are still in pending List. Try to do some nobel cause at-least; who are still present in this world; not wasting time for CM & PM, who already have their future to crush our future. Do visit http://gauravastro.blogspot.com/ & at-least try to thank this young astrologer for his effort. vedic astrology wrote: There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Pramod "tw853" tw853 2. Re: Who would be the Next C.M of T.N- My Attempt Part 1/2. "Sathiyanarayana Gupta" gupta816 3. Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! "P Kumar" pkumar24 4. A Request to All members!!! "" gg_0202 5. Re: A Request to All members!!! Ghosh Babu, "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego 6. Please help this native --second post ! "avin6dl" avin6dl 7. Trouble in job/Need suggestion "sukanta mahakhuda" suks400 8. Re: need advice on neechbhanga rajyayoga "mohitslovein" mohitvirmani 9. Re: Pramod "n_akoch" n_akoch 10. Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on Pramod Mahajan/Doubts "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro 11. Future Path "anstri" anstri77 12. Re: ketu's sub period "r_m_sharma" ram.dishant 13. Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro 14. curse "nutan2510" nutan2510 15. Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego 16. EMERALD BUDDHA: Sacred Object of Siam "Richard Shaw Brown" rsbj66 17. Re: Trouble in job/Need suggestion "Jagannathan Kapisthalam" jagannathankr 18. Why - Navamsha for Spouse "vijayadas_pradeep" vijayadas_pradeep 19. Re: Please help this native --second post ! "David Andrews" andrews635 20. Re: Next CM - TN ? Rahu Centric approach Swearing in time. "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego 21. Free astrology charting software "vishwraj" vishwraj 22. twins qu. "kamalrattesar" kamalrattesar 23. Re: Free astrology charting software "jyothi_b_lakshmi" jyothi_b_lakshmi 24. use of gemnstone for saturn for leo lagna native "Prafulla Gang" ripra_solutions 25. Vyasa-SJC Circle, 14 May 11:00 am, California "Gail Francisco" gailfrancisco ______________________ ______________________ Message 1 "tw853" tw853 Fri May 12, 2006 4:40am(PDT) Re: Pramod http://www.journalofastrology.com/ARTICLES/propod_mahajan_13.htm vedic astrology, "renunw" wrote: > > Dear Haizen, > > I would be very grateful to you, if I can have a copy of the article, > > Thank you, > > Blessings > > Renu > > vedic astrology, "haizen" wrote: > > > > Hello: > > > > I will be sending out the article privately as soon as I've > > finished adding more material and proofing it. The new > > section is, "What indicates Pravin's anger in Pramod's > > chart?" I feel these transits are a quite revealing, and > > this means going back a few days before the tragic > > event. In the meantime, please forgive the delay and I > > hope to send it out within the next 24 hours. > > > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige > > > > > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" wrote: > > > > > > Dear Haizen, > > > Please send me the said article. I shall feel indebted. > > > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > > > - > > > "haizen" > > > To: > > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:57 PM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction > on Pramod > > > Mahajan/Doubts > > > > > > > > > Hello to all: > > > > > > Two days ago I completed my own detailed analysis of the > > > Vrisha chart KN Rao received from R.S. Pawar and prefers, and I > > > am willing to share it privately with those who are interested > > > in getting at the astrological roots of this unexpected loss. I > > > did the analysis to test out the chart for myself and it works > > > excellently; plus it brings out a number of significant points > > > of tension between Mr. Mahajan and his younger brother. I > > > would not have shared this analysis publicly while he was alive > > > out of deference to his family and friends, but I have found it > > > instructive to bring understanding to this tragedy after the fact. > > > His chart is one of few exceptions I've made when it comes to > > > looking at the rashi chakras of contemporary political figures: > > > he was not the usual politician. > > > > > > Put "Pramod" in the subject line of your request. Article will be > > > sent as a "Word" document. I am not connected with KN Rao, but I > > > think he might find this analysis of interest if he ever comes > upon > > > it. > > > > > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige > > > Sedona, AZ, USA > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Shashi Shekhar, > > > > > > > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I > > > > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and > with > > > > humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer > who > > > > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent > > > > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without > checking > > > > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go > > > > wrong). > > > > > > > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > .HARE RAM. > > > > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee, > > > > > Saadar Charan > > > > Sparsha! > > > > > > > > > > He is my > second Guru > > > > in astrology but like Aacharya > > > > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him > before > > > > while i am resident > > > > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves > > > > knowledge so a have some > > > > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to > keep > > > > before him.I hope kind > > > > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us > the > > > > reason according to > > > > > Vrishabh Lagana. > > > > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we > > > > predict that this native had a > > > > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own > house. > > > > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the > 8th > > > > lord sitted in own house, > > > > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be > soft, 7th > > > > lord is in own sign. > > > > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger > brother? > > > > Karak of 3rd house > > > > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of > same > > > > house is sitted with Lagan > > > > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of > Karak > > > > nor the lord of 3rd house > > > > > Moon was running at the time of incident. > > > > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request > to Sh. > > > > Rao jee through you if > > > > > these are baseless,please ignore them and > forgive me. > > > > > > > > > > With Due Regards > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > Mobile-09818310075 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaartik Gor wrote: > > > > > Om Sai Ram > > > > > > > > > > KN RAO Sir is a legend and his silence did say a lot to > people who > > > > know him. > > > > > > > > > > Like always he shows the way to everyone. > > > > > > > > > > God bless him !!! > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > KG > > > > > > > > > > Vishal Bhatia wrote: > > > > > Pramod Mahajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 22 April, a Saturday, when I was going to the Bharatiya > Vidya > > > > Bhawan, I got from R.S. Pawar, the co author of the book on > > > > Dwadashottari Dasha, the horoscope of Pramod Mahajan along with > the > > > > degrees dictated to me while we were in a car. Presuming it to > be > > > > correct, it was put on the board in the class which has two > doctors > > > > also. I told the class that I saw it as a hopeless case if the > > > > horoscope was correct. One male doctor said that there existed > some > > > > hope because the lungs and heart were not affected while a lady > > > > doctor said that it was difficult case. > > > > > > > > > > Back home, I was bombarded with different horoscopes, most of > them > > > > preferring Mithuna lagna, while one went on to even Simha lagna > with > > > > the date of birth being different, 27 October 1948. The date 27 > > > > October was given to me by a Maharastrian woman living in > Calcutta > > > > who said that it was got from an astrologer of Maharastra who > had > > > > this horoscope in his possession and had made predictions for > the > > > > Mahajan family on this horoscope.That astrologer predicted > recovery > > > > after April. So it was a case of confusion worse confounded. > > > > > > > > > > In different television programmes most of them showed Mithuna > > > > lagna and said that if he survived 27 and 28 of April , Mahajan > would > > > > survive. Another astrologer using the same data but Vrischika > lagna > > > > also said that if, Pramod Mahajan survived the last few days of > > > > April, he would survive and become the most important leader of > the > > > > BJP. > > > > > > > > > > Then on different websites almost everyone seemed to prefer > Mithuna > > > > lagna and all of them repeated the same prediction of it being > fatal > > > > in the last days of April and survival later, even a much > greater > > > > future than he had had so far. > > > > > During the days the Pramod Mahajan tragedy was being > discussed in > > > > the media, particularly by the television media, I received the > > > > following email from Switzerland and see my reply. > > > > > ==================================== > > > > > "Vijayadas,Pradeep Kumar" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "knrao" > > > > > Pramod Mahajan > > > > > Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:42:58 IST > > > > > Dear K.N.Raoji > > > > > Is it about Moon a Maraka transiting 12th from/on to lagna > during > > > > the said 2 days.In natal chart Moon is with lagna lord and > aspected > > > > by saturn in transit.(Is saturn 22nd drekkana lord) Another > maraka > > > > jupiter is also aspecting lagna from transit position. > > > > > Respect > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > knrao Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44 > > > > > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar > > > > > Re: Pramod Mahajan > > > > > Pradeep, > > > > > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with the > > > > following details seem to be reliable: > > > > > 30 Oct 948 / 19/51 /Mahboobnagar > > > > > Lagna Vrisha 17/39 > > > > > Moon in Kanya 21/35 > > > > > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April he > can > > > > drag on for four months at most if this horoscope is correct. > > > > > K.N.Rao > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 Vijayadas,Pradeep > > > > > Kumar wrote : > > > > > Dear K.N.Raoji > > > > > Do you have the horoscope of shri Pramod Mahajan. > > > > > Respect > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At no stage I saw any chances of the survival of Mahajan on > the > > > > basis of the horoscope I had before me. I had no reason to > doubt it > > > > as some of the events of his life are verifiable from this > horoscope > > > > including his educational pattern. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was aware that as many as five horoscopes were in > circulation and > > > > some television channels desperate to be the "first" to cover > it from > > > > all angles , including the strological > > > > > analysis, approached many astrologers. I was approached by > some > > > > channels but I refused to appear in any television show . I did > not > > > > want to cause any pain to the family of Pramod Mahajan which > had been > > > > in deep agony during all these days. In fact, while a Hindi > > > > television channel showed a woman anchor talk aggressively of it > > > > being very fatal when water from the kidneys of Mahajan was > being > > > > removed on 27 April, an English channel showed in a rather > cultured > > > > way a correspondent saying that a request had been received > from the > > > > family of Mahajan not to overplay it as fatal. It was clear > from this > > > > that India's private television channels will never learn to be > > > > cultured. > > > > > > > > > > There is so much awkardness and delicacy in discussing openly > the > > > > impending death of someone in glaring news. It is not the first > time > > > > that many astrologers have claimed that they have got the > horoscopes > > > > from most reliable "family sources". Majority of them stuck to > > > > Mithuna lagna and predicted recovery. > > > > > > > > > > But what a student passed on to me with Vrisha lagna appealed > to me > > > > as correct and I privately predicted to friends that it was not > a > > > > case of recovery and, at most, it could drag on only for a week > or > > > > fortnight. I saw no chance of recovery at all. It is what I had > > > > written to Pradeep on 24 April. > > > > > > > > > > I am surprised at astrologers who cannot see the rise of > Mahajan in > > > > the dasha of Saturn the tenth lord from Vrisha lagna. Why are > they > > > > sticking to Mithuna and predicting recovery? > > > > > > > > > > See for instance the period of his rise. In Chara dasha it > would be > > > > the dasha of Vrischika with an excellent eleventh house > containing > > > > the Amatyakaraka and period of his amassing wealth also. In > Vrischika- > > > > Meena- Karka in 1996 with Mars aspecting the tenth house he was > even > > > > Defence Minister for a brief period during the ill fated 13 days > > > > government of Atal Behari Vajpai. > > > > > > > > > > From Tula Kumbha 3 July 2003 with Amatyakaraka falling in the > > > > eighth house he failed with his India Shining slogan and the NDA > > > > government and BJP fell from power. TV predictions of some > > > > astrologers Almost all astrologers said that the transit of > Moon in > > > > Mesha could be fatal but all of them added that if he survived > that, > > > > he would recover. > > > > > > > > > > With so many combinations for fatality present even from > Mithuna > > > > lagna, how was Mahajan's survival seen ? > > > > > > > > > > From Vrisha lagna, the inevitable was visible more easily. I > had a > > > > different view it will be Saturn- Rahu-Mercury which was rather > bad. > > > > But to say, that he would recover after that appeared > impossible to > > > > me. And ofcourse Moon in Mesha is a signal of danger. And later > Moon > > > > in Mithuna would be equally dangerous as it would aspect the > > > > Karakamsha and also the pada of the eighth lord together with > Mars. > > > > > > > > > > The period that would continue after will not be less fatal. > There > > > > was no chance of a recovery at all. It was prudent to avoid > > > > television channels and discuss the available horoscope of > Mahajan > > > > quietly in our astrological circles, I decided. > > > > > > > > > > As in the case of news in general so too in the case of > Mahajan, > > > > balanced news coverage > > > > > was available only in the Doordarshan which is government > > > > controlled and has a tradition of dignity, news sense presented > by > > > > mature and experience journalists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASTROLOGICAL ANALYSIS > > > > > The analysis we had arrived at was the following. > > > > > > > > > > Vimshottari dasha > > > > > In Vimshottari dasha it is Saturn-Rahu-Mercury from 6 January > 2006 > > > > to 3 June 2006 and Mercury here is the second lord and maraka. > > > > > > > > > > Chara dasha > > > > > The picture is clearer in Jaimini's Chara Dasha in which it is > > > > Kanya which contains both the Atmakaraka and the Karakamsha. The > > > > antardasha is Mesha from 31 May 2005 to 31 May 2006. This is > eighth > > > > from Karakamsha and fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Sthira dasha > > > > > The picture is equally depressing in Jaimini Sthira dasha.. > It is > > > > Mesha Mesha upto 5 May 2006. So no hope can he held out. May 5 > is > > > > like a distant date now.This is eighth from Karakamsha and > fatal . > > > > Mesha is eighth from Karakamsha and Atmakaraka and from here, > > > > Bhartikaraka, Mars is in the eighth house showing the brother > being > > > > in trouble. Mesha antardasha is aspected by Mars and Saturn > showing > > > > the violent incident. > > > > > > > > > > The transit of the day > > > > > Both the lagna lord Venus and Moon are in Kanya on which Ketu > has > > > > been transitting and now Saturn from Karka and Mars from > Mithuna are > > > > aspecting it showing the dangerous event clearly. The fifth > house > > > > from Vrisha represents the stomach region, as a student pointed > out. > > > > > > > > > > Tajak > > > > > A colleague in the Institute of Astrology, Bharatiya Vidya > Bhawan, > > > > Sri Saxena, worked on the Tajak of Pramod Mahajan and told me > that > > > > the conclusion I had come to, of it being the end of everything > for > > > > Mahajan, was confirmed through the annual horoscope also. Here > Mars > > > > in the fifth house aspecting Saturn in the eighth is ominous > enough > > > > and Saturn is the third lord also. Here Muntha is in the second > house > > > > aspected by Saturn and the lord of Muntha, Saturn is in the > eighth > > > > house aspected by Mars. The fatal picture drawn from > Vimshottari and > > > > Jaimini's Chara dasha is corroborated. > > > > > > > > > > Bhrigu approach > > > > > As I was writing this, S. S.dropped in and I asked him to > give a > > > > Bhrigu analysis presuming the data to be accurate. SS has been > doing > > > > some remarkable researches in Bhrigu and wants to remain > anynymous > > > > for some personal reasons. He did it and said that nothing was > good > > > > and there was no hope. > > > > > > > > > > I decided to post this piece in the first week of May, as in > Sthira > > > > dasha, the fatal period is upto 5 May. > > > > > > > > > > NOTE > > > > > I had told a BJP leader of middle level about a political > > > > assassination a week before the tragedy of Mahajan and I will > > > > disclose it later. > > > > > (Written in parts between 25 April and 2 May 2006) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE PREDICTION OF THE ASSASSINATION OF A POLITICAL LEADER > > > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > The horoscope of BJP must reflect and it is here that I must > tell > > > > readers that I had made a prediction that there would be the > > > > assassination of a leader soon. These are very confidential > > > > predictions and so sensitive that I do not want anyone other > than the > > > > person to whom I tell it, to even get an inkling of it. > > > > > See the letter below: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > Prof K.N.Rao. > > > > > FEROZE VARUN GANDHI > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > I was deeply shocked to hear of the misfortune that had > befallen > > > > Pramodji. I remembered the prediction made to me a week earlier > that > > > > a major assassination of a political leader would take place > soon. I > > > > have been thinking about your prediction and several others > made by > > > > you over the last year. The accuracy of them continues to > astound me. > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > Varun > > > > > 27/4/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subsequent to this, I received many phones from many people > asking > > > > me what was my prediction about Pramod Mahajan. I told them > that I > > > > had no doubt that the horoscope I was using in his case was > correct > > > > and on this basis I would not even give one percent chance to > Mahajan > > > > for survival. This prediction of mine did not seem to be in > line with > > > > the periodical medical bulletins someone told me. Astrologers > were > > > > optimistic of his prediction if he survived April but I was not > at > > > > any stage. > > > > > The immediate fatal date after 27/28 April would be before 5 > May I > > > > told them. I have discussed the basis for this in the main body > of > > > > the article. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from > your PC > > > > and save big. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Links > > > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message 2 "Sathiyanarayana Gupta" gupta816 Fri May 12, 2006 7:14am(PDT) Re: Who would be the Next C.M of T.N- My Attempt Part 1/2. Dear Shri.Raghunatha Rao, I have not found fault with your predictions. Since many different charts of the celebrities are in circulation , in the instant case I found that the only convergent point among all Astrologers in the pray is Janma nakshtra . Hence I relayed my final predictions on the principles of Pancha Pakshi sastra .As predicted the DMK have won 96 seats and fell short of 22 seats for forming its own indipendant Government with its own absolute majority. What I meant by my predictions has been explained as referred to above.Thank you very much for seeking my clarifications. With regards, D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. P.S. I am in USA. Raghunatha RaoNemani wrote: Om Krishna Guru Namaste Gupta Ji, Thanks for the note and also for the Pancha Pakshi Shastra analysis. With due respect to you, your Pakshi analysis is not fully completed hence the result you got was incorrect. When time is right and when I get permission from Guru Ji, then I shall write some details about this later. Meanwhile, if you are still living in USA,then call me during my lunch hour, then I will explain the pieces which you have not considered in your analysis. As you know, I am still a beginner in Jyotish and a lot to learn and with your blessings I will to stay focused on my studies in Jyotish. Regards Raghunatha Rao vedic astrology, Sathiyanarayana Gupta wrote: Sathiyanarayana Gupta Wed May 10, 2006 9:47 pm Re: Who would be the Next C.M of T.N- My Attempt Part 1/2. Dear Raghunatha Rao, I understand from your analysis that Dr.M.Karunanithi ji and Dr.J.Jayalalitha were born in Mrigasira and Magha Nakshatra respectively . Therefore it would be appropriate to relay on "Pakshi" sastra than on their natal charts. Eagle is inactive on Thursdays,which is the pakshi for Dr.M.Karunanithi, hence he may not attain required majority for forming his Government. Dr.J.Jayalalitha's pakshi is owl which is active after 8.17 am IST.The counting of votes had already began in India as per their Calender Thursday the 11th May 2006 at 7.00 am [now our EST10.02 pm = IST 7.32 am]. Let us wait and see the actual results. With regards, D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. ------- original message --- Raghunatha RaoNemani wrote: Om Krishna Guru Namaste KarunaKaram Ji and All, Many have already attempted the analysis and I would like to see from point of view too. So here is my attempt. I have considered the following birth details for the two candidates and giving my analysis. The source of this birth details are from some of the conferences (I do not remember which one, but I have recorded in my laptop.) I would like to apply few different methods to see the affects on their election outcome. I) Let me take Smt Jaya Lalita's chart first. || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ______________________ ______________________ Message 3 "P Kumar" pkumar24 Fri May 12, 2006 9:15am(PDT) Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! I agree 100%. Apart from astrology, moral uprightness is of very high value and we should respect such persons, always. I too know Shri K.N.Rao personally, follow him astrologically and respect him for his ethically high values. P.Kumar (Mumbai) - "sreeram srinivas" To: Cc: "'Noname Noname'" ; "Renuka Prematillake" Friday, May 12, 2006 2:12 PM [vedic astrology] RE: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! > Sri K.N.Rao is a person from whom I learnt the holy subject and respect > him. Having interacted with him for long, I am sure that the telecast that > you referred in your mail - which I did not see ( but cannot comment much ), > one thing is sure, that the words spoken by Sri K.N. Rao would not be in > terms of any "fatalist" tone. He is the person who has excellent command > either hindi or english and knows the use of language- he picks his words > carefully. This is my own assessement as an individual. He never sought > publicity himself - other than promoting astrology. For the "clout" he has > with either politicians or businessmen or even normal public, had he any > intentions of such "going public", he would not living in a small single > room, living on his own monies & ethics,...etc.. > > While I say this, let me submit, being in a industry - where "organizations" > base their decisions of our(my) reports either verbal or written, we are > not carried away in supporting someone blindly without a valid reason. It > is the media responsible for painting astrology black, while they earn > monies, by publishing weekly forecasts for public consumption !!! every > weekend. Sri K.N. Rao despite his health constraints, did take time to > fight cases in Indian Courts including Supreme Court in favor of astrology - > is it public stunt ??? When no other "Titled" astrologer worth his name, > engaged in selling his knowledge has time or energy to defend it when it > needed most - or is this a public stunt ??? > > I think it is time that we need to base our opinions not on single words or > sentences of a person, but take a holistic view of everything and then > conclude. I am sure you will agree with me on this !! > > Reproducing the article published on Sri K.N. Rao's website for ready > reference. > > with regards, > > sreeram srinivas > > sreeram64 > > > > > > Kunjilal the astrologer > > who predicted his own death but failed > > K.N.Rao. > > > > On 20 October some private television channels covered extensively a > peculiar news item. An astrologer of Madhya Pradesh by the name Kunjilal had > predicted that he would die on 20 October 2005 between 3 and 4 pm. TV > cameras were showing him, his family members and the crowds that had > gathered to see it near a temple inside which Kunjilal was shown meditating > with his eyes closed. > > I was asked by India's number one television channel, AAJ TAK, to > participate in a live coverage along with a psychologist and a "rationalist" > participating from Calcutta. > > I said that I wanted some details about the horoscope of Kunjilal which > could not be got . The only information available was that he was born on 20 > October 1930 at Betul with Tula lagna. The approximate horoscope cast on > this basis was as follows. > > > Why the "rationalist "? > > I asked privately why had they invited a so called "rationalist" when these > fellows and physical scientists who had been shouting against astrology, > dominating the English newspapers of India and the television channels with > their irrational attacks on astrology since ages had lost three legal > battles in the last three years. > > Madras High Court > > First they filed a case against the introduction astrology as a subject of > study in Madras High Court where they had all the opportunity to argue > against astrology. IT IS ALSO A DISGRACE > > > > > > THAT NO HINDU ASTROLOGER WHO SWEARS BY EIGHTEEN RISHIS EVEN APPEARED AS A > PETITIONER IN PERSON TO DEFEND ASTROLOGY. > > But astrology won the case in Madras High Court. > > > Andhra High Court > > Then the case came up in the Andhra High Court where again astrologers won > the case. IT IS ALSO A DISGRACE THAT NO HINDU ASTROLOGER WHO SWEARS BY > EIGHTEEN RISHIS EVEN APPEARED AS A PETITIONER IN PERSON TO DEFEND ASTROLOGY. > > The Supreme Court of India > > The case came up in the Supreme Court of India where it was admitted to be > heard on merits which was good for astrology as, if we won it, the > controversy would be over for ever. I was ailing then and was not sure if I > could sit in the Supreme Court for three hours at a stretch and could walk > comfortably in the premises of the Supreme Court. > > Many astrologers can speak and write in English and could have filed > petitions in the Supreme Court. NONE DID IT. I WAS THE ONLY ASTROLOGER > FIGHTING THE CASE WITH MY AILING CONDITION. > > > I argued the case effectively and astrology won the case. > > Why are the so called "rationalists" shouting now when the physical > scientists have been lying low, having been beaten hollow three times now? > > What have these so called "rationalists" to say now except mouthing their > ignorance which have been rejected by the courts thrice ? It was time for us > 11 astrologers to laugh at and ridicule those communists, physical > scientists and the "rationalists" who in collusion with fellow travellers > and > pseudo intellectuals in English journalism , for full four years between > 2000 and 2004, wrote and said on television that introduction of astrology > would amount to encouraging superstition. These denationalised and > despiritualised Indians were those dangerous apes who for the time being > seemed to be winning the debate and the battle till three courts dealt them > mortal blows one after another and showed them their place. Now when they > see some cultural-religious-spirtual-astrological themes dominating some > television programmes, they feel helpless and ex-press their impotent rage. > While physical scientists have to be on their guard because they think that > they have a "prestige" to guard, the "rationalists" can afford to behave > buffoonishly. > > But television channels want some sensation and they gave chance to so > called "rationalist" who at no stage had anything intelligent to say. I knew > that I had to suffer it and tolerate only so long as my patience would hold > out. > > What I said > > 1) I started by saying that it was unethical to do what Kunjilal was doing, > creating so much tension for his family, particularly for his wife who was > shown in her semi-rustic dress praying to Lord Hanuman, as she said, on > Karuva Chauth which fell on 20 October 2005. For those who do not know it, > Karuva Chauth is observed by married women in northern India for the long > life of their husbands. These women fast whole of the day, pray, and break > their fast only after seeing the Moon after sunset. > > > It was an ironical situation now. If Kunjilal died, his astrology would > triumph.If he survived, people would say that his wife's Karva Chauth saved > her husband !!! > > 2) I said that there were instances of such advance predictions made by > astrologers about their own death. But they had foretold about the bad years > and months of their lives at most and not the precise day and hour as > Kunjilal was doing. > > 3) Kunjilal may have made his own calculations and could be running the > dasha of Mercury which being the seventh dasha could be a maraka. Television > channels were saying that he had predicted correctly the time of the death > of many persons including his own father's who was also an astrologer. > > PSYCHIATRIC TREATMENT > > 4) Towards the end when the "rationalist" uttered something irrational half > of which I could hear feebly because of some technical fault, and would not > have known if the anchor had not repeated it, I said , rather harshly, that > those who, without studying astrology scientifically, criticise it, should > get themselves examined by pychiaritsts. > > > The last remark of mine must have irritated all those who had carried on a > vigorous campaign against astrology particularly in the English print media > of India between 2000 and 2004 May after which the Supreme Court finally > gave its verdict in favour of astrology. But one journalist did misquote me > and said that I had felt strongly that it was possible. I heard two times > the CD of that telecast. I never said that. > > The last laugh was mine, this time in a live television show watched by > millions in India. I had asked critics of astrology to get themselves > treated mentally. > > Kunjilal did not die and has done some damage to the cause of astrology by > miscalculating the time of his own death and making such a big show of it. > He did not at all appear to be a gimmick maker but a genuine, gentle and > successful astrologer dreading death by misapplying his own astrology to > himself. He started perspiring when it was nearing 4.pm which means that he > had believed that he would die that day. > > But he was a relieved man later when he survived his own bad prediction , > but had done damage to his own reputation and to astrology. > > That does not matter. All of us have some failed predictions. Astrology is a > super science and astrologers are ill trained because of which instead of > concentrating on good researches they play God and prescribe remedies as > though they can perform plastic surgery on human fate. > > > > > > _____ > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Tatvam-Asi > Friday, May 12, 2006 12:21 AM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES > !!! > > > Dear Arjun Ji, > Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions? > A bit curious. > > K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing the > astrologer's chart. > And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and may die at > predicted time. > > Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no answer to > this question. > > Tatvam-Asi > > By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity seeker > IMHO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > Links > > > > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message 4 "" gg_0202 Fri May 12, 2006 9:15am(PDT) A Request to All members!!! ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Learned Members, Almost two weeks have passed after the death of Shree Pramod Mahajan, still i find the members keep themselves busy in discussing about his charts, accusing each other for making wrong predictions, while others eulogise any Particular Astrologer. I am not cursing any prediction nor I am criticising any wrong predictions ...for Astrologers are not GOD.... I think its futile to discuss about the death of Pramod Mahajan or teh next CM of TN..etc... Mailing with puzzle charts will not only benefit the person who is posting, but also it will be a good homework who are aspiring to be astrologers in their future....Moreover I find that there are more charts lying in the message list who are seeking help... I hope revered scholars will not mind this request from refraining themeselves about discussing Pramod Mahajan's chart or next cm of tn etc.... Wish all success, P.S.:---All members are requested not to send me too many private messages from this time onwards, as I dont have time to reply them. However, they can chat with me through messenger, if they wish. I would rather recommen them to post their problem/query to this list, for their are learned scholars here... . ______________________ ______________________ Message 5 "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego Fri May 12, 2006 9:37am(PDT) Re: A Request to All members!!! Ghosh Babu, Pramod Mahajan case I can understand but why Next CM of TN ? M.K Karunanidhi has not yet assumes office. We need to discuss what went wrong in predicting win for Madam. This is a live case still. wrote: ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Learned Members, Almost two weeks have passed after the death of Shree Pramod Mahajan, still i find the members keep themselves busy in discussing about his charts, accusing each other for making wrong predictions, while others eulogise any Particular Astrologer. I am not cursing any prediction nor I am criticising any wrong predictions ...for Astrologers are not GOD.... I think its futile to discuss about the death of Pramod Mahajan or teh next CM of TN..etc... Mailing with puzzle charts will not only benefit the person who is posting, but also it will be a good homework who are aspiring to be astrologers in their future....Moreover I find that there are more charts lying in the message list who are seeking help... I hope revered scholars will not mind this request from refraining themeselves about discussing Pramod Mahajan's chart or next cm of tn etc.... Wish all success, P.S.:---All members are requested not to send me too many private messages from this time onwards, as I dont have time to reply them. However, they can chat with me through messenger, if they wish. I would rather recommen them to post their problem/query to this list, for their are learned scholars here... . || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. ______________________ ______________________ Message 6 "avin6dl" avin6dl Fri May 12, 2006 10:55am(PDT) Please help this native --second post ! Dear Members, A friend of mine is going through very very tough times and it would be extremely helpful if someone can have a look at her birth chart and suggest something. Her details are: DOB : 10/14/1970 Time: 8:38am Location: Hammond Indiana Latitude : 41 30 N Long : 87 30 W Any advise or analysis will be very useful and highly appreciated. Thanks in advance, -Avin ______________________ ______________________ Message 7 "sukanta mahakhuda" suks400 Fri May 12, 2006 11:19am(PDT) Trouble in job/Need suggestion Jai radheshyam, I Sukant a new member to the group. My life has been troublesome for last few years.But last March(2006) was one of the harshest.so now I am very apprehensive of my future. I was working in an MNC as a computer engineer, but lost my job within 3.5 months. But somehow I got to manage to get ajob again. I want to from you expert that whether I wil be able to continue this job smoothly or is there any obstacle to it.If so what remedy should I follow?Please give some suggestion. My date of birth: 27 - 06 - 1974 Time : 10.05 AM Place of Birth : Sonepur,Orissa Thank you Sukant Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ______________________ ______________________ Message 8 "mohitslovein" mohitvirmani Fri May 12, 2006 11:20am(PDT) Re: need advice on neechbhanga rajyayoga hello sir as seeing ur horoscope seeing that 8th house is strong as lord of 8th house is connected wit lot of planets in ur horoscope as u see ur sani lord of third and fourth house is in 8th and guru wit rahu seeing eight and lord of 8th house is in 1st house and inter change wit 11th house in as lord of 9th house and 7th nad 12th lord and lord of 1st house and 6th house in that only lord of 10th ouse is in 12 in neech so i dont his maha dasha but he wil go in lot of ups and down as 8th house is hidden house and unexpected gain and losses it wil give result as per his mahadasha and antra dasha any way bye take care ______________________ ______________________ Message 9 "n_akoch" n_akoch Fri May 12, 2006 11:20am(PDT) Re: Pramod - Dear Haizen , could you please send me the article and your analysis ? thanks, and regards, N. Koch -- In vedic astrology, "haizen" wrote: > > Hello: > > I will be sending out the article privately as soon as I've > finished adding more material and proofing it. The new > section is, "What indicates Pravin's anger in Pramod's > chart?" I feel these transits are a quite revealing, and > this means going back a few days before the tragic > event. In the meantime, please forgive the delay and I > hope to send it out within the next 24 hours. > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige > > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" wrote: > > > > Dear Haizen, > > Please send me the said article. I shall feel indebted. > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > - > > "haizen" > > To: > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:57 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on Pramod > > Mahajan/Doubts > > > > > > Hello to all: > > > > Two days ago I completed my own detailed analysis of the > > Vrisha chart KN Rao received from R.S. Pawar and prefers, and I > > am willing to share it privately with those who are interested > > in getting at the astrological roots of this unexpected loss. I > > did the analysis to test out the chart for myself and it works > > excellently; plus it brings out a number of significant points > > of tension between Mr. Mahajan and his younger brother. I > > would not have shared this analysis publicly while he was alive > > out of deference to his family and friends, but I have found it > > instructive to bring understanding to this tragedy after the fact. > > His chart is one of few exceptions I've made when it comes to > > looking at the rashi chakras of contemporary political figures: > > he was not the usual politician. > > > > Put "Pramod" in the subject line of your request. Article will be > > sent as a "Word" document. I am not connected with KN Rao, but I > > think he might find this analysis of interest if he ever comes upon > > it. > > > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige > > Sedona, AZ, USA > > > > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Shashi Shekhar, > > > > > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I > > > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and with > > > humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer who > > > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent > > > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without checking > > > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go > > > wrong). > > > > > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > .HARE RAM. > > > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee, > > > > Saadar Charan > > > Sparsha! > > > > > > > > He is my second Guru > > > in astrology but like Aacharya > > > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him before > > > while i am resident > > > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves > > > knowledge so a have some > > > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to keep > > > before him.I hope kind > > > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the > > > reason according to > > > > Vrishabh Lagana. > > > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we > > > predict that this native had a > > > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own house. > > > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the 8th > > > lord sitted in own house, > > > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft, 7th > > > lord is in own sign. > > > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger brother? > > > Karak of 3rd house > > > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same > > > house is sitted with Lagan > > > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak > > > nor the lord of 3rd house > > > > Moon was running at the time of incident. > > > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to Sh. > > > Rao jee through you if > > > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive me. > > > > > > > > With Due Regards > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > Mobile-09818310075 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaartik Gor wrote: > > > > Om Sai Ram > > > > > > > > KN RAO Sir is a legend and his silence did say a lot to people who > > > know him. > > > > > > > > Like always he shows the way to everyone. > > > > > > > > God bless him !!! > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > KG > > > > > > > > Vishal Bhatia wrote: > > > > Pramod Mahajan > > > > > > > > > > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 22 April, a Saturday, when I was going to the Bharatiya Vidya > > > Bhawan, I got from R.S. Pawar, the co author of the book on > > > Dwadashottari Dasha, the horoscope of Pramod Mahajan along with the > > > degrees dictated to me while we were in a car. Presuming it to be > > > correct, it was put on the board in the class which has two doctors > > > also. I told the class that I saw it as a hopeless case if the > > > horoscope was correct. One male doctor said that there existed some > > > hope because the lungs and heart were not affected while a lady > > > doctor said that it was difficult case. > > > > > > > > Back home, I was bombarded with different horoscopes, most of them > > > preferring Mithuna lagna, while one went on to even Simha lagna with > > > the date of birth being different, 27 October 1948. The date 27 > > > October was given to me by a Maharastrian woman living in Calcutta > > > who said that it was got from an astrologer of Maharastra who had > > > this horoscope in his possession and had made predictions for the > > > Mahajan family on this horoscope.That astrologer predicted recovery > > > after April. So it was a case of confusion worse confounded. > > > > > > > > In different television programmes most of them showed Mithuna > > > lagna and said that if he survived 27 and 28 of April , Mahajan would > > > survive. Another astrologer using the same data but Vrischika lagna > > > also said that if, Pramod Mahajan survived the last few days of > > > April, he would survive and become the most important leader of the > > > BJP. > > > > > > > > Then on different websites almost everyone seemed to prefer Mithuna > > > lagna and all of them repeated the same prediction of it being fatal > > > in the last days of April and survival later, even a much greater > > > future than he had had so far. > > > > During the days the Pramod Mahajan tragedy was being discussed in > > > the media, particularly by the television media, I received the > > > following email from Switzerland and see my reply. > > > > ==================================== > > > > "Vijayadas,Pradeep Kumar" > > > > > > > > > > > > "knrao" > > > > Pramod Mahajan > > > > Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:42:58 IST > > > > Dear K.N.Raoji > > > > Is it about Moon a Maraka transiting 12th from/on to lagna during > > > the said 2 days.In natal chart Moon is with lagna lord and aspected > > > by saturn in transit.(Is saturn 22nd drekkana lord) Another maraka > > > jupiter is also aspecting lagna from transit position. > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > knrao Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44 > > > > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar > > > > Re: Pramod Mahajan > > > > Pradeep, > > > > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with the > > > following details seem to be reliable: > > > > 30 Oct 948 / 19/51 /Mahboobnagar > > > > Lagna Vrisha 17/39 > > > > Moon in Kanya 21/35 > > > > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April he can > > > drag on for four months at most if this horoscope is correct. > > > > K.N.Rao > > > > > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 Vijayadas,Pradeep > > > > Kumar wrote : > > > > Dear K.N.Raoji > > > > Do you have the horoscope of shri Pramod Mahajan. > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > At no stage I saw any chances of the survival of Mahajan on the > > > basis of the horoscope I had before me. I had no reason to doubt it > > > as some of the events of his life are verifiable from this horoscope > > > including his educational pattern. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was aware that as many as five horoscopes were in circulation and > > > some television channels desperate to be the "first" to cover it from > > > all angles , including the strological > > > > analysis, approached many astrologers. I was approached by some > > > channels but I refused to appear in any television show . I did not > > > want to cause any pain to the family of Pramod Mahajan which had been > > > in deep agony during all these days. In fact, while a Hindi > > > television channel showed a woman anchor talk aggressively of it > > > being very fatal when water from the kidneys of Mahajan was being > > > removed on 27 April, an English channel showed in a rather cultured > > > way a correspondent saying that a request had been received from the > > > family of Mahajan not to overplay it as fatal. It was clear from this > > > that India's private television channels will never learn to be > > > cultured. > > > > > > > > There is so much awkardness and delicacy in discussing openly the > > > impending death of someone in glaring news. It is not the first time > > > that many astrologers have claimed that they have got the horoscopes > > > from most reliable "family sources". Majority of them stuck to > > > Mithuna lagna and predicted recovery. > > > > > > > > But what a student passed on to me with Vrisha lagna appealed to me > > > as correct and I privately predicted to friends that it was not a > > > case of recovery and, at most, it could drag on only for a week or > > > fortnight. I saw no chance of recovery at all. It is what I had > > > written to Pradeep on 24 April. > > > > > > > > I am surprised at astrologers who cannot see the rise of Mahajan in > > > the dasha of Saturn the tenth lord from Vrisha lagna. Why are they > > > sticking to Mithuna and predicting recovery? > > > > > > > > See for instance the period of his rise. In Chara dasha it would be > > > the dasha of Vrischika with an excellent eleventh house containing > > > the Amatyakaraka and period of his amassing wealth also. In Vrischika- > > > Meena- Karka in 1996 with Mars aspecting the tenth house he was even > > > Defence Minister for a brief period during the ill fated 13 days > > > government of Atal Behari Vajpai. > > > > > > > > From Tula Kumbha 3 July 2003 with Amatyakaraka falling in the > > > eighth house he failed with his India Shining slogan and the NDA > > > government and BJP fell from power. TV predictions of some > > > astrologers Almost all astrologers said that the transit of Moon in > > > Mesha could be fatal but all of them added that if he survived that, > > > he would recover. > > > > > > > > With so many combinations for fatality present even from Mithuna > > > lagna, how was Mahajan's survival seen ? > > > > > > > > From Vrisha lagna, the inevitable was visible more easily. I had a > > > different view it will be Saturn- Rahu-Mercury which was rather bad. > > > But to say, that he would recover after that appeared impossible to > > > me. And ofcourse Moon in Mesha is a signal of danger. And later Moon > > > in Mithuna would be equally dangerous as it would aspect the > > > Karakamsha and also the pada of the eighth lord together with Mars. > > > > > > > > The period that would continue after will not be less fatal. There > > > was no chance of a recovery at all. It was prudent to avoid > > > television channels and discuss the available horoscope of Mahajan > > > quietly in our astrological circles, I decided. > > > > > > > > As in the case of news in general so too in the case of Mahajan, > > > balanced news coverage > > > > was available only in the Doordarshan which is government > > > controlled and has a tradition of dignity, news sense presented by > > > mature and experience journalists. > > > > > > > > > > > > ASTROLOGICAL ANALYSIS > > > > The analysis we had arrived at was the following. > > > > > > > > Vimshottari dasha > > > > In Vimshottari dasha it is Saturn-Rahu-Mercury from 6 January 2006 > > > to 3 June 2006 and Mercury here is the second lord and maraka. > > > > > > > > Chara dasha > > > > The picture is clearer in Jaimini's Chara Dasha in which it is > > > Kanya which contains both the Atmakaraka and the Karakamsha. The > > > antardasha is Mesha from 31 May 2005 to 31 May 2006. This is eighth > > > from Karakamsha and fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > In Sthira dasha > > > > The picture is equally depressing in Jaimini Sthira dasha.. It is > > > Mesha Mesha upto 5 May 2006. So no hope can he held out. May 5 is > > > like a distant date now.This is eighth from Karakamsha and fatal . > > > Mesha is eighth from Karakamsha and Atmakaraka and from here, > > > Bhartikaraka, Mars is in the eighth house showing the brother being > > > in trouble. Mesha antardasha is aspected by Mars and Saturn showing > > > the violent incident. > > > > > > > > The transit of the day > > > > Both the lagna lord Venus and Moon are in Kanya on which Ketu has > > > been transitting and now Saturn from Karka and Mars from Mithuna are > > > aspecting it showing the dangerous event clearly. The fifth house > > > from Vrisha represents the stomach region, as a student pointed out. > > > > > > > > Tajak > > > > A colleague in the Institute of Astrology, Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan, > > > Sri Saxena, worked on the Tajak of Pramod Mahajan and told me that > > > the conclusion I had come to, of it being the end of everything for > > > Mahajan, was confirmed through the annual horoscope also. Here Mars > > > in the fifth house aspecting Saturn in the eighth is ominous enough > > > and Saturn is the third lord also. Here Muntha is in the second house > > > aspected by Saturn and the lord of Muntha, Saturn is in the eighth > > > house aspected by Mars. The fatal picture drawn from Vimshottari and > > > Jaimini's Chara dasha is corroborated. > > > > > > > > Bhrigu approach > > > > As I was writing this, S. S.dropped in and I asked him to give a > > > Bhrigu analysis presuming the data to be accurate. SS has been doing > > > some remarkable researches in Bhrigu and wants to remain anynymous > > > for some personal reasons. He did it and said that nothing was good > > > and there was no hope. > > > > > > > > I decided to post this piece in the first week of May, as in Sthira > > > dasha, the fatal period is upto 5 May. > > > > > > > > NOTE > > > > I had told a BJP leader of middle level about a political > > > assassination a week before the tragedy of Mahajan and I will > > > disclose it later. > > > > (Written in parts between 25 April and 2 May 2006) > > > > > > > > > > > > THE PREDICTION OF THE ASSASSINATION OF A POLITICAL LEADER > > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > > > The horoscope of BJP must reflect and it is here that I must tell > > > readers that I had made a prediction that there would be the > > > assassination of a leader soon. These are very confidential > > > predictions and so sensitive that I do not want anyone other than the > > > person to whom I tell it, to even get an inkling of it. > > > > See the letter below: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > Prof K.N.Rao. > > > > FEROZE VARUN GANDHI > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > I was deeply shocked to hear of the misfortune that had befallen > > > Pramodji. I remembered the prediction made to me a week earlier that > > > a major assassination of a political leader would take place soon. I > > > have been thinking about your prediction and several others made by > > > you over the last year. The accuracy of them continues to astound me. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > Varun > > > > 27/4/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > Subsequent to this, I received many phones from many people asking > > > me what was my prediction about Pramod Mahajan. I told them that I > > > had no doubt that the horoscope I was using in his case was correct > > > and on this basis I would not even give one percent chance to Mahajan > > > for survival. This prediction of mine did not seem to be in line with > > > the periodical medical bulletins someone told me. Astrologers were > > > optimistic of his prediction if he survived April but I was not at > > > any stage. > > > > The immediate fatal date after 27/28 April would be before 5 May I > > > told them. I have discussed the basis for this in the main body of > > > the article. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC > > > and save big. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message 10 "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro Fri May 12, 2006 11:20am(PDT) Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on Pramod Mahajan/Doubts ..HARE RAM. Dear Jyoti, Thanks for your compliments.In fact Respected Sh.K N Rao Jee is the living legend and our pride truly.He represents India in the world regarding vedic astrology undoubtedly. Why had i placed my doubts before him? so that we may improve our knowledge as much as we can under the guidance of such the learned person.In fact we are really lucky that such the esteemed personality is among us.God may live him long. With all the best wishes Shashi Shekhar Sharma jyothi_b_lakshmi wrote: Hi Shashi Shekhar, Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and with humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer who made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without checking it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go wrong). I hope somebody will clarify your doubts. Regards, Jyothi vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma wrote: > > .HARE RAM. > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee, > Saadar Charan Sparsha! > > He is my second Guru in astrology but like Aacharya > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him before while i am resident > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves knowledge so a have some > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to keep before him.I hope kind > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the reason according to > Vrishabh Lagana. > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we predict that this native had a > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own house. > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the 8th lord sitted in own house, > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft, 7th lord is in own sign. > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger brother? Karak of 3rd house > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same house is sitted with Lagan > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak nor the lord of 3rd house > Moon was running at the time of incident. > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to Sh. Rao jee through you if > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive me. > > With Due Regards > Shashi Shekhar Sharma Mobile-09818310075 > > > > Kaartik Gor wrote: > Om Sai Ram > > KN RAO Sir is a legend and his silence did say a lot to people who know him. > > Like always he shows the way to everyone. > > God bless him !!! > > regards, > > KG > > Vishal Bhatia wrote: > Pramod Mahajan > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > On 22 April, a Saturday, when I was going to the Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan, I got from R.S. Pawar, the co author of the book on Dwadashottari Dasha, the horoscope of Pramod Mahajan along with the degrees dictated to me while we were in a car. Presuming it to be correct, it was put on the board in the class which has two doctors also. I told the class that I saw it as a hopeless case if the horoscope was correct. One male doctor said that there existed some hope because the lungs and heart were not affected while a lady doctor said that it was difficult case. > > Back home, I was bombarded with different horoscopes, most of them preferring Mithuna lagna, while one went on to even Simha lagna with the date of birth being different, 27 October 1948. The date 27 October was given to me by a Maharastrian woman living in Calcutta who said that it was got from an astrologer of Maharastra who had this horoscope in his possession and had made predictions for the Mahajan family on this horoscope.That astrologer predicted recovery after April. So it was a case of confusion worse confounded. > > In different television programmes most of them showed Mithuna lagna and said that if he survived 27 and 28 of April , Mahajan would survive. Another astrologer using the same data but Vrischika lagna also said that if, Pramod Mahajan survived the last few days of April, he would survive and become the most important leader of the BJP. > > Then on different websites almost everyone seemed to prefer Mithuna lagna and all of them repeated the same prediction of it being fatal in the last days of April and survival later, even a much greater future than he had had so far. > During the days the Pramod Mahajan tragedy was being discussed in the media, particularly by the television media, I received the following email from Switzerland and see my reply. > ==================================== > "Vijayadas,Pradeep Kumar" > > > "knrao" > Pramod Mahajan > Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:42:58 IST > Dear K.N.Raoji > Is it about Moon a Maraka transiting 12th from/on to lagna during the said 2 days.In natal chart Moon is with lagna lord and aspected by saturn in transit.(Is saturn 22nd drekkana lord) Another maraka jupiter is also aspecting lagna from transit position. > Respect > Pradeep > > knrao Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44 > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar > Re: Pramod Mahajan > Pradeep, > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with the following details seem to be reliable: > 30 Oct 948 / 19/51 /Mahboobnagar > Lagna Vrisha 17/39 > Moon in Kanya 21/35 > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April he can drag on for four months at most if this horoscope is correct. > K.N.Rao > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 Vijayadas,Pradeep > Kumar wrote : > Dear K.N.Raoji > Do you have the horoscope of shri Pramod Mahajan. > Respect > Pradeep > > > At no stage I saw any chances of the survival of Mahajan on the basis of the horoscope I had before me. I had no reason to doubt it as some of the events of his life are verifiable from this horoscope including his educational pattern. > > > > > I was aware that as many as five horoscopes were in circulation and some television channels desperate to be the "first" to cover it from all angles , including the strological > analysis, approached many astrologers. I was approached by some channels but I refused to appear in any television show . I did not want to cause any pain to the family of Pramod Mahajan which had been in deep agony during all these days. In fact, while a Hindi television channel showed a woman anchor talk aggressively of it being very fatal when water from the kidneys of Mahajan was being removed on 27 April, an English channel showed in a rather cultured way a correspondent saying that a request had been received from the family of Mahajan not to overplay it as fatal. It was clear from this that India's private television channels will never learn to be cultured. > > There is so much awkardness and delicacy in discussing openly the impending death of someone in glaring news. It is not the first time that many astrologers have claimed that they have got the horoscopes from most reliable "family sources". Majority of them stuck to Mithuna lagna and predicted recovery. > > But what a student passed on to me with Vrisha lagna appealed to me as correct and I privately predicted to friends that it was not a case of recovery and, at most, it could drag on only for a week or fortnight. I saw no chance of recovery at all. It is what I had written to Pradeep on 24 April. > > I am surprised at astrologers who cannot see the rise of Mahajan in the dasha of Saturn the tenth lord from Vrisha lagna. Why are they sticking to Mithuna and predicting recovery? > > See for instance the period of his rise. In Chara dasha it would be the dasha of Vrischika with an excellent eleventh house containing the Amatyakaraka and period of his amassing wealth also. In Vrischika- Meena- Karka in 1996 with Mars aspecting the tenth house he was even Defence Minister for a brief period during the ill fated 13 days government of Atal Behari Vajpai. > > From Tula Kumbha 3 July 2003 with Amatyakaraka falling in the eighth house he failed with his India Shining slogan and the NDA government and BJP fell from power. TV predictions of some astrologers Almost all astrologers said that the transit of Moon in Mesha could be fatal but all of them added that if he survived that, he would recover. > > With so many combinations for fatality present even from Mithuna lagna, how was Mahajan's survival seen ? > > From Vrisha lagna, the inevitable was visible more easily. I had a different view it will be Saturn- Rahu-Mercury which was rather bad. But to say, that he would recover after that appeared impossible to me. And ofcourse Moon in Mesha is a signal of danger. And later Moon in Mithuna would be equally dangerous as it would aspect the Karakamsha and also the pada of the eighth lord together with Mars. > > The period that would continue after will not be less fatal. There was no chance of a recovery at all. It was prudent to avoid television channels and discuss the available horoscope of Mahajan quietly in our astrological circles, I decided. > > As in the case of news in general so too in the case of Mahajan, balanced news coverage > was available only in the Doordarshan which is government controlled and has a tradition of dignity, news sense presented by mature and experience journalists. > > > ASTROLOGICAL ANALYSIS > The analysis we had arrived at was the following. > > Vimshottari dasha > In Vimshottari dasha it is Saturn-Rahu-Mercury from 6 January 2006 to 3 June 2006 and Mercury here is the second lord and maraka. > > Chara dasha > The picture is clearer in Jaimini's Chara Dasha in which it is Kanya which contains both the Atmakaraka and the Karakamsha. The antardasha is Mesha from 31 May 2005 to 31 May 2006. This is eighth from Karakamsha and fatal. > > > In Sthira dasha > The picture is equally depressing in Jaimini Sthira dasha.. It is Mesha Mesha upto 5 May 2006. So no hope can he held out. May 5 is like a distant date now.This is eighth from Karakamsha and fatal . Mesha is eighth from Karakamsha and Atmakaraka and from here, Bhartikaraka, Mars is in the eighth house showing the brother being in trouble. Mesha antardasha is aspected by Mars and Saturn showing the violent incident. > > The transit of the day > Both the lagna lord Venus and Moon are in Kanya on which Ketu has been transitting and now Saturn from Karka and Mars from Mithuna are aspecting it showing the dangerous event clearly. The fifth house from Vrisha represents the stomach region, as a student pointed out. > > Tajak > A colleague in the Institute of Astrology, Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan, Sri Saxena, worked on the Tajak of Pramod Mahajan and told me that the conclusion I had come to, of it being the end of everything for Mahajan, was confirmed through the annual horoscope also. Here Mars in the fifth house aspecting Saturn in the eighth is ominous enough and Saturn is the third lord also. Here Muntha is in the second house aspected by Saturn and the lord of Muntha, Saturn is in the eighth house aspected by Mars. The fatal picture drawn from Vimshottari and Jaimini's Chara dasha is corroborated. > > Bhrigu approach > As I was writing this, S. S.dropped in and I asked him to give a Bhrigu analysis presuming the data to be accurate. SS has been doing some remarkable researches in Bhrigu and wants to remain anynymous for some personal reasons. He did it and said that nothing was good and there was no hope. > > I decided to post this piece in the first week of May, as in Sthira dasha, the fatal period is upto 5 May. > > NOTE > I had told a BJP leader of middle level about a political assassination a week before the tragedy of Mahajan and I will disclose it later. > (Written in parts between 25 April and 2 May 2006) > > > THE PREDICTION OF THE ASSASSINATION OF A POLITICAL LEADER > K.N.Rao. > > The horoscope of BJP must reflect and it is here that I must tell readers that I had made a prediction that there would be the assassination of a leader soon. These are very confidential predictions and so sensitive that I do not want anyone other than the person to whom I tell it, to even get an inkling of it. > See the letter below: > > > > To > Prof K.N.Rao. > FEROZE VARUN GANDHI > Dear Guruji, > I was deeply shocked to hear of the misfortune that had befallen Pramodji. I remembered the prediction made to me a week earlier that a major assassination of a political leader would take place soon. I have been thinking about your prediction and several others made by you over the last year. The accuracy of them continues to astound me. > Yours sincerely, > Varun > 27/4/2006 > > > Subsequent to this, I received many phones from many people asking me what was my prediction about Pramod Mahajan. I told them that I had no doubt that the horoscope I was using in his case was correct and on this basis I would not even give one percent chance to Mahajan for survival. This prediction of mine did not seem to be in line with the periodical medical bulletins someone told me. Astrologers were optimistic of his prediction if he survived April but I was not at any stage. > The immediate fatal date after 27/28 April would be before 5 May I told them. 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Call regular phones from your PC and save big. > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on FareChase ______________________ ______________________ Message 11 "anstri" anstri77 Fri May 12, 2006 11:21am(PDT) Future Path Dear Guruji, This is Anshuman Tripathy and I am presently doing my PhD (would be completing 3rd year) at a premier insitute of the country. I am finding it very difficult to concentrate on my studies any more. At the same time I am going over to Spain in September 2006 for 4 months in an exchange program. Another problem that is troubling me at present is the partition of my grandfather's property amongst my Father, Uncles and Aunties. I am also undecided as to what am I going to do after completion of my PhD. Should I go for a job (which means leaving my family back in Orissa) or settling for a not so bright career path in the home state. Please spare some time to suggest me as to what is the future path like. My Details Date of Birth - 16th of January 1977 Place of Birth - Kolkata (Calcutta) - India Time of Birth - 18.22 (6.22 p.m.) Hope this details would suffice for you. Waiting eagerly for the reply. with regards Anshuman Tripathy Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. ______________________ ______________________ Message 12 "r_m_sharma" ram.dishant Fri May 12, 2006 11:21am(PDT) Re: ketu's sub period thanks a lot, when native can expect a change in residence or a promotion in organisation.Is there any chance of foriegn visit in near future. RMS vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma wrote: > > .HARE RAM. > Dear RMS, > Please remember Ketu period either in Mahadasa or Anter dasa never > gives better results.Ok Jupiter is aspecting towards it but how can we > overlook Mahadasanath Budh that is not really beneficial for you.So do > Lord Ganesh Pooja on wednesday and do start giving Roti to Dog on > each Saturday when Ketu Mahadasa will be started. > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma Mobile- 09818310075 > > r_m_sharma wrote: > List > DOB 20-06-1964 > TOB 1755 > POB Nasirabad(Rajasthan) > For this native ketu sub-period will start in aug 2006. Will this time > good for native as ketu is placed in 2H whose lord Ju is placed in 6th > house. > RMS > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > Links > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message 13 "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro Fri May 12, 2006 11:26am(PDT) Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! ..HARE RAM. Sh.Tatvam Asi jee, I am sorry but it is baseless and fake that Sh.Rao jee had approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did he say that day? It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of said day.Plz try to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person has Mrityu Yog these days" but he never said about time and date surely and he opposed strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one (learned person) must give their predictions regarding earthquake or other natural calamities but also all the astrologers should make a forum separately for the same purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the country. Please do not take it otherwise.One should always do true criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree with me.Please do forgive me if you find some mistake. With Regards Shashi Shekhar Sharma Tatvam-Asi wrote: Dear Arjun Ji, Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions? A bit curious. K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing the astrologer's chart. And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and may die at predicted time. Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no answer to this question. Tatvam-Asi By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity seeker IMHO. panditarjun2004 wrote: dear tatvam ji since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on this self- death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him. but one thing is certain that this astrologer who predicted his own death with exact date and time was giving self publicity, so much so that some local newspapers mentioned his village got several curious tourists and he had several customers waiting in line for getting their charts read (all for knowing their death date?). several TV channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-death predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity. in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made by any astrologer either for others or for self. if the astrologer finds a chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and cannot predict with certainty that the native will die. this is against the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts death and then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma. once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers and fake tantriks alike for predicting every native the following things: 1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu, ketu and saturn. 2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad. 3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth is hindered or someone has done blackmagic on you. 4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i will do these poojas for you. also these days, it has become a fashion for every panchanga karta and every astrologer to predict general things for the country like: 1. the country would lose a great leader (there are hundreds of ex prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year) 2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern states 3. heat waves prevails across the country 4. air accidents would claim lives. 5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds drowned. 6. earthquakes rock the country 7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman claims himself as kalki avataar) 8. country prospers in the field of technology. any blind man can guess that these predictions happen every year without saying. my humble submission to all such astrologers is that stop giving general predictions and give specific predictions to individuals who are approaching the group. such predictions are useless if they are not going to help the native. as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer shall predict a chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which shall be displayed by all matured astrologers. till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees and thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake or tsunami. they all come to donate blankets or food packets only after the incident. not a single astrologer could predict earthquake or tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised predictions only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a person predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st to 15th of a month, it is of no use even if it occurrs. all the great sages who used to predict with their divya drishti (not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting any negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is only to help the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID SO". with best wishes pandit arjun vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi wrote: > > Dear Mr. Sreeram, > > what do you mean by cryptic clues? > > I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a village astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I think) and Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after seeing his chart that he will die. > The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV Channel wasted a whole day cov ering this non event. > THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS TOPIC IN VEDIC ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME. > > Does Mr. Rao has answer for this? > > Tatvam-Asi > > sreeram srinivas wrote: > It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya vidya Bhawan seminar > Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction about Mr. Pramod > Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic clues to his analysis > on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to join a discussion in > trying to explain his logics in detail for public consumption. The > students need to raise to a level through their own research & knowledge > application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to current status > through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to his sharing of > knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in this vedic sciences, > further some of them even practise it for their daily sustenance. > > with regards, > sreeram srinivas > sreeram64 > > _____ > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmi > Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on Pramod > Mahajan/Doubts > > > Hi Shashi Shekhar, > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and with > humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer who > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without checking > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go > wrong). > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts. > > > Regards, > Jyothi > > > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma > wrote: > > > > .HARE RAM. > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee, > > Saadar Charan > Sparsha! > > > > He is my second Guru > in astrology but like Aacharya > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him before > while i am resident > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves > knowledge so a have some > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to keep > before him.I hope kind > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the > reason according to > > Vrishabh Lagana. > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we > predict that this native had a > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own house. > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the 8th > lord sitted in own house, > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft, 7th > lord is in own sign. > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger brother? > Karak of 3rd house > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same > house is sitted with Lagan > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak > nor the lord of 3rd house > > Moon was running at the time of incident. > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to Sh. > Rao jee through you if > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive me. > > > > With Due Regards > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > Mobile-09818310075 > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on FareChase ______________________ ______________________ Message 14 "nutan2510" nutan2510 Fri May 12, 2006 11:40am(PDT) curse To all Gurus, In my chart I have Leo lagna with juiter in the third house with mars, Venus in the 11th house with rahu, Moon AK with saturn in the second house and Sun and mercury in the 12th house. That means I have curse of Brahmin and curse of Venus and Kal surpe Dosha. So what remedy should I do primarily. I would greatly appreciate the reply. Nutan ______________________ ______________________ Message 15 "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego Fri May 12, 2006 11:52am(PDT) Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! you keep on jumping from this to to that group and post my postings there. I already replied to you on jr group. shashi shekhar sharma wrote: ..HARE RAM. Sh.Tatvam Asi jee, I am sorry but it is baseless and fake that Sh.Rao jee had approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did he say that day? It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of said day.Plz try to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person has Mrityu Yog these days" but he never said about time and date surely and he opposed strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one (learned person) must give their predictions regarding earthquake or other natural calamities but also all the astrologers should make a forum separately for the same purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the country. Please do not take it otherwise.One should always do true criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree with me.Please do forgive me if you find some mistake. With Regards Shashi Shekhar Sharma Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. ______________________ ______________________ Message 16 "Richard Shaw Brown" rsbj66 Fri May 12, 2006 0:35pm(PDT) EMERALD BUDDHA: Sacred Object of Siam PICTURE: Bhagavan Sri Buddha Avatar, the Sacred Emerald Buddha of Thailand, is actually a large carved emerald green jadeite. The History of this Deity dates back to Lord Brahma who gave it to Lord Indra, and now it is the most sacred object in Siam. Tonight is VISHAKA PUJA or Lord Buddha's enlightenment day anniversary. sacred-objects/ <---VIEW Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. ______________________ ______________________ Message 17 "Jagannathan Kapisthalam" jagannathankr Fri May 12, 2006 1:22pm(PDT) Re: Trouble in job/Need suggestion Dear Sir, Did your brothers or sisters get any bad result after 5-7-2004.? Regards, jagannathan. On 5/12/06, sukanta mahakhuda wrote: > > Jai radheshyam, > > I Sukant a new member to the group. > > My life has been troublesome for last few years.But last March(2006) > was one of the harshest.so now I am very apprehensive of my future. > I was working in an MNC as a computer engineer, but lost my job within > 3.5 months. > But somehow I got to manage to get ajob again. > I want to from you expert that whether I wil be able to continue this > job smoothly or is there any obstacle to it.If so what remedy should I > follow?Please give some suggestion. > > My date of birth: 27 - 06 - 1974 > Time : 10.05 AM > Place of Birth : Sonepur,Orissa > > Thank you > Sukant > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great > rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic > astrology Astrology > horoscope Astrology > software > ------------------------------ > > > > - Visit your group "vedic astrology" > on the web. > > - > vedic astrology > > - Terms of > Service . > > > ------------------------------ > ______________________ ______________________ Message 18 "vijayadas_pradeep" vijayadas_pradeep Fri May 12, 2006 2:09pm(PDT) Why - Navamsha for Spouse Dear Respected members I am posting my understanding on the subject.Kindly verify. Spouse is sometimes termed as PraanaSakhi(beloved companion of Prana).Also Spouse is known as one half of Prana.Shiva and Shakthi and Ardhanareeshwara - any connection?. Now Navamshas represent Navapranas as per Dashadhyayi. Combining own understanding(can be wrong) with authentic words of Thalakkulathu Bhattathiri(Dashadhyayi author) - relationship between Navamsha and Spouse can be linked. Thus studying the navamsha sambandha of a graha on relevant bhavas or Karaka planets,as mentioned in Classics seems to be correct and pretty clear than the contemporary understanding of Navamsha analysis.It is my personal opinion and other learned members can very well disagree. Thanks Pradeep ______________________ ______________________ Message 19 "David Andrews" andrews635 Fri May 12, 2006 8:31pm(PDT) Re: Please help this native --second post ! Dear Avin, You state that this is your second post of the details of birth of your friend. Had you requested the forum with a specific enquiry about your friend you would have got a reply by now. David Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ______________________ ______________________ Message 20 "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego Fri May 12, 2006 8:36pm(PDT) Re: Next CM - TN ? Rahu Centric approach Swearing in time. Friends, Dr. Mu.Ka. Karunanidhi will be sworn in as Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu on Saturday morning at 11 am. Kataka lagna rising with Sani. Moon in Vishakha and dasa natha Guru placed in Swati would make an interesting life for him. Why interesting? Because in R1 position or KL, both Guru and Chandra are in 8th house.Guru being lagnadhipati.There is parivartana between lagna and 8th house lords.I have already predicted that he would not complete his full term as CM due to ill health or other factors. Let us see what fate has in store for him. Tatvam-Asi Tatvam-Asi wrote: Dear Raman ji, I just checked Madam 9 's chart as was discussed in VA forum some time back (I think). She was born on 24 Feb 1948 , at 2.36 pm. Birth place (I am not sure as it is in long/lat.) But I am not concerned about the place. She started Rahu Dasa Shukra Bhukti on 7th March 2006. If I take her R1 KL position chart, Shukra is exalted but in 12th in Kaalanta sign.Is posited in 12th in Vish Mukha. It is fully aspected by Mars, the lagna and 8th lord. This single factor denotes that she will see an end to her present era of rule (temporary) in this election. Prasna taken , shows that her past actions will torment her in form of defeat. She will have to face unexpected dangers, reversals etc . Since sukra is in 12th in Kaalanta, she will be procecuted as well as persecuted during Shukra Bhukti.. May Tamilnadu see better days. Tatvam-Asi Raman Suprajarama wrote: _____ [] On Behalf Of Raman Suprajarama Monday, May 08, 2006 8:15 PM Cc: Vedic Astrology Re: Next CM - TN ? Dear Members, Jayalalitha's birth date I have differs from what is given below. The time of birth is 14.36 hrs. Jayalalitha is under Rahu-Venus-Mars capable for giving her good position Karunanidhi is under Venus-Venus-Sun which is also quite positive. Venus as the 10th lord (for Karunanidhi) is more powerful than Venus in the 10th house (for Jayalalitha). It is going to be an interesting election and Karunadhi might emerge as a winner. We will have to wait and see. Om Tat Sat, Raman Suprajarama _____ [] On Behalf Of Pradeep Sunday, May 07, 2006 9:10 PM Re: Next CM - TN ? I give below the birth details of 1.M Karunanidhi 3rd June 1924 Place---Thanjavuru, Tamilnadu Time--1215 hours 2.J Jayalalitha Place of Birth-Mysore, Karnataka Date---24th February 1948 Time---10:58:00 hours Some take JJ's Lagna to be Taurus. Thank You Regards, Pradeep , "Raman Suprajarama" wrote: > > Dear Members, > > > > Can anyone post the charts of Jayalalitha and Karunanidhi (casted as per > Raman Ayanamsa)? We can have a discussion. > > > > If my memory serves me right, she is Simha rasi and since Sadesathi has > begun, things will not be easy for her. > > > > Om Tat Sat, > > > > Raman Suprajarama > > > > _____ > > [] On > Behalf Of Pradeep > Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:45 AM > vedic astrology; ; sohamsa; ; naastrology; > KNRaoJyotish; ; > Next CM - TN ? > > > > Dear Members, > Who will it be ..... 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Get it on your phone. || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. ______________________ ______________________ Message 21 "vishwraj" vishwraj Fri May 12, 2006 9:00pm(PDT) Free astrology charting software Hello Fortunately, I have just found free software site and the link is given below. It is really very hard to believe that such a beautiful astrology software is made available for free in view of social service. Kudos to the persons who made it happen. http://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh/ vishwraj ______________________ ______________________ Message 22 "kamalrattesar" kamalrattesar Fri May 12, 2006 9:10pm(PDT) twins qu. hi guruji, twins born with the difference of 3 min have same planets position in lagna does they will have different way of life and future? adivese if division charts will give more clearity?. please adise kamal ______________________ ______________________ Message 23 "jyothi_b_lakshmi" jyothi_b_lakshmi Fri May 12, 2006 9:38pm(PDT) Re: Free astrology charting software New joinee to group? :-))) Too innocent!!! vedic astrology, "vishwraj" wrote: > > Hello > Fortunately, I have just found free software site and the link is > given below. It is really very hard to believe that such a beautiful > astrology software is made available for free in view of social > service. Kudos to the persons who made it happen. > > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh/ > > vishwraj > ______________________ ______________________ Message 24 "Prafulla Gang" ripra_solutions Fri May 12, 2006 11:11pm(PDT) use of gemnstone for saturn for leo lagna native Hi I observed for few leo natives (chart details not readily available with me now) using gemstone for saturn, during their saturn mahadasa; and has resulted in good materialistic results. Saturn lord of 6th and 7th for leo lagna - karaka for job in most natives (most people i am talking about are in job); and has eliminated their competition / organisational conflicts with tremendous growth. Out of the samples, few have mars / saturn conjunction; ketu / saturn conjunction and /or venus -saturn conjunction in different houses. How come, blue saphire resulting into good results (being enemy planet of lagna lord sun)? regards / Prafulla ______________________ ______________________ Message 25 "Gail Francisco" gailfrancisco Fri May 12, 2006 11:27pm(PDT) Vyasa-SJC Circle, 14 May 11:00 am, California Om namo bhagavate vasyudevaya Vyasa-SJC Circle, California, USA Jyotish Guru: Freedom Tobias Cole Address: 652, Norvell Street, El' Cerrito, CA 94530, USA Phone: 510-938-1570 14 May, Sunday Time: 11:00 am (you can come at 10 am to discuss questions about your studies) Vyasa study circle in California Bay Area. Topics for discussion: nakshatras vimshottari dasa calculations Bring past handouts Bring Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra if you have it. Recording of the classes will be done for the benefit of future Vyasa-SJC students and other students in USA. Goal: To have 12 students (at least) as expert Jyotishi's by the year 2007 (2 year target) having good knowledge of Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra. All are welcome. There are no charges but students can bring food and drink to share. Expect to spend approximately 4-5 hours in circle. If you can afford to, please bring a donation for photocopying expenses. Carpooling: If you need a ride, email or call me 415.246.1255 to arrange a ride. I live in Santa Cruz and carpool up to El Cerrito. If you are along the way, you can come along! Have a great day. Gail Mobile: 415-246-1255 *tat savitur varenyam* ______________________ ______________________ || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || ------ ------ Warm Regards, Siddharth BhattacharyaManager- Operations & Business DevelopmentEC-Manage INC bsiddharth What makes Sachin India's highest paid sports celebrity?, Share your knowledge on India Answers Send instant messages to your online friends - NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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