Why - Navamsha for Spouse - Ranjan ji

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Dear Ranjan ji

 

Sorry about the delayed reply.As you have rightly mentioned, there can

be many interpretations from the Navamshas of planets.But ofcourse we

are yet to fully understand them.Dharma Patni can also be a valid point

as number 9,is pertaining to Dharma.Through Shradha(attention),resulting

in dharma,one can attain success.Thus among various vargas attained by a

planet,navamsha is very very important, as,it shows the vital condition

of, Prana and its influence.If a planet is weak in navamsha,one has to

struggle hard for the said Shradha.

 

As 5th pertains to any kind of creation or followers - to have a child

through own Bija - 7 th house is necessary,for Anda samyojana.Similarly

for spouse matters ''Classical Examples'' are there, on planets, having

navamshas on the seventh BHAVA(Varahamihira).This clearly proves that

one of the significances of navamsha is spouse and it is studied in

combination with the relevant bhava,viz 7th.This is not my view,but

those of Sages.

 

Similarly true Bhava is Aatma/Mana Samyojana.While reading a Gita

interpretation, on Saguna Aaradhana,a Swami says - ''when we are

worshiping HIM in any Bhava(Vigraha) .....'' - Please see Vigraha in

bracket for Bhava.While thinking more about this,the common usage

''Moorthimath Bhava'' struck me.It means culmination of any Bhava is

Moorthi or Vigraha.Thus i feel Father ,Mother ,Guru etc are Moorthis of

our own Bhava when percieved through incomplete understanding.Similarly

Adhi-Bhootham,Adhi-Daivam etc are the Moorthis or culmination of that

desire,which had arisen from the INITIAL Singular state(non state).The

divine path(Kula margam?) is returning to that initial(Nirguna).For the

perception of any thought, SPACE is needed.The distance from ''NO

THOUGHT'' to the relams of THOUGHT is ''TIME'',is my humble opinion.

 

Upasana -is a divine Bhava.It is sitting near.Near to whom?Through Guru

we are trying to sit next to HIM -again reduction of DISTANCE.Through

Upasan''amsha'' we are studying the abilities of various planets for

UPASANA.Please read divisional dignities(paraijata,simhasana) of 9th

lord by Parashara and share your valuable thoughts.Upasanamsha can then

be clearly understood.This will make clear how Bhavas and Amshas are to

be combined.Logic is not about explaining the already

evident/seen,rather understanding of the unseen, with the help of

seen.Counting Bhavas everywhere,is the easiest conclusion.Whether

Jyotish demands more Time/Tapas and Upasana have to be carefully

considered, by learned souls.Why we cannot find even a single reference

reagarding such,amongst thousands and thousands of shlokas,are also to

be looked upon, by all sincere seekers of knowledge.

 

I may be inadvertently hurting the feelings of some,but such is never

the intention,and kindly forgive.It is just a humble attempt towards

TRUTH.If i am wrong,more learned can lead me towards light.

 

Regarding Brahmacharis and their success ''without'' woman -I feel they

are great souls who have understood the 'Woman' within as compared to

common souls like me looking for one outside:-).

 

Thanks

Pradeep

vedic astrology, "crystal pages" <rrgb

wrote:

>

> Vijaydas ji,

>

> I have always found it very interesting that navamsha has been

> recommended as the chart that talks about marriage and spouse while

> saptamamsha represents the children.

>

> There is a certain (though not perfect) correlation/association

> between some of the harmonic slices that vargas represent and

> sometimes interpreted so and the order of houses:

> Rashi (divided by 1, the primary or central frequency sonically

> speaking) the first house

> Hora (sign divided by 2) 2nd house (wealth etc)

> Drekkana/Dreshkana/Dreshkona (divisor is 3) 3rd house - siblings

> Turyamsha - sukh, 4th harmonic

> The comes the first tangent!

> Saptamamsha (7th but represents children -- 5th house)

> Navamsha (9th harmonic but represents 7th and not 9th house)

> Dashamsha (10th - house and harmonic and profession) and the rail

> gets back on the patari.

>

> Now if we go around the zodiac again, some of the remaining fit,

> others don't within this scheme!

>

> But why is saptamamsha representing the children/5th house and

> navamsha the 7th house?

>

> I think it was Narasimha who at one time, years ago connected the

> concept of navamsha representing the Dharmapatni. It clicked

> conceptually and dare I say -- intuitively. Have I tested this in

> many charts (my own question to others, generally that gets me in

> deep hot waters!). NO! I have not. But the happily married few that I

> have known and met do confirm in words and actions that there is

> always a great woman behind a great man! What would yang be without

> the right YIN? What or where would a Concorde jet be without the

> right fuel! The fuel burns away but we just look at the Concorde in

> awe!

>

> Now there are some brahmacharis who have reached great heights but

> has there been a Great Woman behind their success too? A mother

> sometimes, a sister at other times? Research questions!

>

> And how did the navamsha explain that link? Or did it?

>

> So, is navamsha not about just patni, though in most cases it might

> be so. Maybe it is just about our dharmic acts or as astro-

> accountants might want to call it -- about our DHARMIC ledger!

> Another research and exploration question. Would be interesting to

> examine if the dharmic influence deciphered through navamsha always

> manifests in this worldly reality as someone from the other gender,

> nature of relationships notwithstanding?

>

> And I also sense your other question within the question. Is navamsha

> a chart or just a point of power?

>

> So many complex questions! Hopefully I did not mislead anyone!

>

> RR

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Respected members

> >

> > I am posting my understanding on the subject.Kindly verify.

> >

> > Spouse is sometimes termed as PraanaSakhi(beloved companion of

> > Prana).Also Spouse is known as one half of Prana.Shiva and Shakthi

> and

> > Ardhanareeshwara - any connection?.

> >

> > Now Navamshas represent Navapranas as per Dashadhyayi.

> >

> > Combining own understanding(can be wrong) with authentic words of

> > Thalakkulathu Bhattathiri(Dashadhyayi author) - relationship between

> > Navamsha and Spouse can be linked.

> >

> > Thus studying the navamsha sambandha of a graha on relevant bhavas

> or

> > Karaka planets,as mentioned in Classics seems to be correct and

> pretty

> > clear than the contemporary understanding of Navamsha analysis.It

> is my

> > personal opinion and other learned members can very well disagree.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> >

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