Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Respected Sir I was told I am affected by Saturn being a Virgoan. My date of birth is 30 th August 1951 / Mid Night/ at Chennai. will some one enlightne me on this Saturn effect? regards pv subrahmanyam There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Fire of Reservation --- Say No to Reservation "Tarun" tarun.virgo 2. Re: Chart Interpretation skills "Jagannathan Kapisthalam" jagannathankr 3. Re: Bhavishya purana and Varivasya rahasyam "Jagannathan Kapisthalam" jagannathankr 4. Re: Marriage Timing "kishore mohan" kishorepatnaik09 5. Re: Fire of Reservation --- Say No to Reservation "mallika arjunan" smalli007 6. Re: Bhavishya purana and Varivasya rahasyam "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro 7. Re: Request , please help "crystal pages" rrgb 8. Fwd: [vedic astrology] Please , get me some upayas "KAMAL KISHORE Sharma" kishore73_06 9. Re: Kendradhipathi Dosha Vs. Maha Purusha Yoga "crystal pages" rrgb 10. Regarding Buiz "deep_gem_999" deep_gem_999 11. Re: Query "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro 12. Re: Kendradhipathi Dosha Vs. Maha Purusha Yoga "S.C. Kursija" sckursija 13. Abroad employment opportunity "samyakmedia" samyakmedia 14. Help! "S Rg" srg_in06 15. Re: Query "biswajeet raja" biswajeet_raja 16. Re: Astrologer(s) Please advice "sovina76" sovina76 17. Re: Digest Number 3960 "Siddharth" siddharthdelta 18. Re: Help somebody "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro 19. Re: Marriage Timing "upaoakcrest" upaoakcrest 20. Re: Fire of Reservation --- Say No to Reservation "Kaartik Gor" astro_gor 21. Re: Why - Navamsha for Spouse - Ranjan ji "vijayadas_pradeep" vijayadas_pradeep 22. Parashara on 9th house "vijayadas_pradeep" vijayadas_pradeep 23. Re: Fire of Reservation --- Say No to Reservation "sanjayprabhakaran" sanjaychettiar 24. Re: Abroad employment opportunity "Tarun Chopra" occultwizard.tarun 25. Re: Abroad employment opportunity "kochu" kochu1 ______________________ ______________________ Message 1 "Tarun" tarun.virgo Mon May 15, 2006 4:58am(PDT) Fire of Reservation --- Say No to Reservation hello members, In india this congress government is as usual using its statregy to win the elections. All the young people like me do face the problems in getting admission to higher education. there are only limited seats around 20-30 in every college and even in that reservation ...this is hopeless. Belonging to general category is like we committed a crime now. Is it for sure that all the general category people rich ....no...there are 60% government posts occupied by reservation people. I hope many people favour me and will spread their voice to STOP RESERVATION. thanks tarun ______________________ ______________________ Message 2 "Jagannathan Kapisthalam" jagannathankr Mon May 15, 2006 5:21am(PDT) Re: Chart Interpretation skills Dear Sir, I am attaching the assumed horoscope for kind reference. Regarding birth ,the place and surroundings may be predicted.-events which might have occured at the time of birth.-who was benefitted or who was put to loss at birth etc.Whether the native was born in the mothers house etc. Mars is the nineth house lord both from Janma Lagnam as well as Chandra Laganam. So, he stands for temples more so because he is the Karaka for buildings etc.Mars is seated in Lagnam.The Lagnadhipathy Jupiter is in the Poorva Janma Punya sthanam.He is exalted.Ketu is the Karaka for temples or dieties.Jupiter is retrograde towards Ketu.jupiter is the "native".Therefore there is a temple at the place of birth /residence,of the native.Jupiter and the Sun are Lagna Lords from Janmalagnam and Chandra lagnam respectively.By his retrogression Jupiter aspects Sun.from gemini.therefore there is nexus between the two lords.Jupiter,Sun and Moon have exchanged signs.? The Name of the native may be the name of a Hindu Avatar such as SriRama, SriKrishna, Lord of the seven hills.This is because Ketu is related to Gods.The name of the father or even grand father may be one such name.Ravistands for father and Rahu stands for Grand father.The name of the native may have bearing upon "fame,name etc".because Lagnalord Jupiter who is also the lord of the tenth house aspects Sun who is incidentally situated in the tenth house itself.Sun is in the sign of "Aranya" with the demon Rahu.indicating Madhu sudhana. Let me continue afterwards, Regards, jagannathan. On 5/15/06, Pradeep wrote: > > Dear members, > > Just to get an idea of judging a horoscope I shall be grateful if the > learned members just provide me the guidance about how to go about it from > the following example. > > "Mars is posited in meena lagna whose lord guru is vakra in kataka and > aspects budha in 11th house and shukra in 9th house which is hemmed between > malefics in 8th H (Sat) and 10th H (Ravi and Rahu)." > > How does one go about it step by step to arrive at conclusions.? > > Please assume any dasa and bhukti.....as my objective is just to get the > feel of the art of interpreting a birth chart. > > Thank you > > Regards, > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic > astrology Astrology > horoscope Astrology > software > ------------------------------ > > > > - Visit your group "vedic astrology" > on the web. > > - > vedic astrology > > - Terms of > Service . > > > ------------------------------ > ______________________ ______________________ Message 3 "Jagannathan Kapisthalam" jagannathankr Mon May 15, 2006 5:28am(PDT) Re: Bhavishya purana and Varivasya rahasyam Dear Sir, Some portions of Bhavishya Purana can be had access to at Shri Ramakrishna Ashram ,Hyderabad.there is a great library of books for free reading.You may kindly contact them.I too read some of it. Regards, Jagannathan. On 5/15/06, m_jyn wrote: > > aum Nama Sivaya > > Respected gurus and frinds, > > May I kindly be guided as to how I may able to get Bhavishya Purana and > Varivasya rahasyam. I have been searching for those two books but could > not locate it. If anyone has it with them, kindly contact me. > > with respectful regards, > jayan > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic > astrology Astrology > horoscope Astrology > software > ------------------------------ > > > > - Visit your group "vedic astrology" > on the web. > > - > vedic astrology > > - Terms of > Service . > > > ------------------------------ > ______________________ ______________________ Message 4 "kishore mohan" kishorepatnaik09 Mon May 15, 2006 6:16am(PDT) Re: Marriage Timing Dear Kumar, Can you please make your criticism somewhat more clear??? Are you trying to say that Srinivas has given a ray of hope for nothing (because the lady remained unmarried for 38 years) or are you saying that he said something wrong???? Personally, I saw nothing wrong with what he has written. Kishore patnaik vedic astrology, "P Kumar" wrote: > > Dear Sreeram, > In my opinion, you need exercise restraint. For marriage, Rasi and Navamsa are most important. Have you seen both ? Does it justify remaining unmarried at 38 (badly delayed for an Indian female). See 7th lord of Rasi in 9th and 7th lord of Navamsa exalted in 11th aspecting the 7th. Does it justify the things ? Then see that Navamsa is changing within 12 seconds. What should be the apprehension here ? Then why this hasty conclusion and why this frustrating advice ? Be careful always before advising anyone to go for insurance. Always try to see some silver lining and try to boost the morale of the native without ignoring the astrological facts. In this case situation becomes clear only if we consider Leo Navamsa and if we remember that Venus-Moon syndrome is important for negating marriage. See Venus- Moon mutual aspect here. > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > - > "sreeram srinivas" > ; astrology>; Hyderabad>; "'k_mayag'" > Cc: "kishore patnaik" ; "Sunil John" > Sunday, May 14, 2006 2:34 PM > [vedic astrology] Marriage Timing > > > Software Used : Jhora Version 7.02 > DOB: July 11, 1968, Hyderabad, India - 3:17 PM. > Query : Is there a promise of Marriage or denial ?? > Lagna : Scorpio > 3H : Moon > 5H : Rahu > 6H : Saturn Debilitated > 8H : Mars, Mercury, Sun > 9H : Venus > 10H : Jupiter > 11H : Ketu > > Balance of Dasha ( Vimshottari ): Moon - 8 years approx. > Mars - 7 years > Rahu - 18 years > Currently running Jupiter - Mercury period. > > Negative Points > > LL is 8H, In Moon Chart LL is debilitated, In D9, LL in 3H inimical sign, > Venus Chart LL in 7H inimical sign. > Debilitated Saturn is vargottam ( D-1 & D9 ) > Moon is severly afflicted - by Mars, Debilitated Saturn, Moon in Saturn > sign ( Capricon ). Hence, mother of this native must have had horrowing > time !! How did I conclude ?? 4HL also indicates Mother, here it is saturn > and debilitated. First minus point. But the 4H is aspected by Jupiter. How > can saturn is ok. However, the natural karaka for Mother, i.e. Mother is > seriously afflicted as stated above. Hence, it has to be native's mother !! > > 7HL & 12HL in 9H = as we are discussing marriage - indicates "dosha" > 4HL is afflicted for its Lord Saturn is debilitated. > 8H is afflicted by 6HL Mars > 12H is also afflicted by Debilitated Saturn > > The native has received dasha pattern which has NO relation to the 7HL and > Jupiter is NOT aspected by any other planet. Hence, the delay in Marriage. > But it is getting exalted in D-9 with Venus. Hence, there is a "Ray of > Hope". Moon ( Mind ) is vey much inclined to marriage. Moon is dharma > & Venus is here Kama Lord. Both are aspecting each other. Venus is also > 12HL. See the conflict of mind !! > > The native is "likely" to get married in this Jupiter's Mahadasha. However, > with the advent of Saturn's Mahadasha, the troubles start for her. Her 8H > is severly afflicted and hence, even should she get married, in all > probability her married life is not long say - 10-12 years. Hence, it is > advisable for her to get her husband insured for a "large sum" with proper > documentation - ( check & recheck ) atleast she stands to gain in long run > !! Though very very "mean advice" - cannot help giving this - Note: In the > Moon chart, the 2HL is debilitated - Bank Balance is nil !!! In Sun chart, > 2HL Moon aspects its own house from 8H !!! > > Saturn - Mercury period is fatal to her would be husband. > > Further, 2HL & 5HL Jupiter is in 10H ( Leo Sign ). The native is > involved in a profession attributed to Jupiter - i.e. education, teaching in > a government institution possibly involving post graduate or research > studies - a strong possibility. > > I have not considered here the D-9 & D-10 positions. All the predictions > are said through use of D-1, Moon & Venus Charts. > > I would invite the supporters of the logic " Debilitated Planet ( Saturn ) > in birth charts becoming Vargottam " as seen in this case would ACT like a > exalted planet to present their comments taking this particular case as the > native would love to hear counter arguments - for she is likely to undergo > the same after 10-12 years and provide "validated" results" > > I would request the native to validate the forecast given in here, by > responding to the mail with cc to my e-mail id i..e. > sreeram64 with the same fervour as the question was put !!!! > > with regards, > sreeram srinivas, New Delhi > sreeram64 > Cell : 098682-31817 > > > notify [ > notify] On Behalf Of k_mayag > Sunday, May 14, 2006 3:20 AM > sreeram srinivas > Marriage Timing > > Dear Sreeram Ji, > Is there any hope of marriage in this chart (it is mine). How/Where > will I meet the spouse. > > Thank you. > Maya > > > vedic astrology, "sreeram srinivas" > wrote: > > > > get in touch with Mr. Kishore Patnaik 09849270729 ( hyderabad cell no. ) > > > > with regards, > > sreeram sriniavs > > > > _____ > > > > vedic astrology > > [ > vedic astrology] On Behalf Of > goodgirllakshmi > > Saturday, May 13, 2006 2:53 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Advice pls > > > > > > Dear Memebers > > I need your help,i want to if any good astrologer available in > Hyderabad.One of friend is in hyderabad so if astro guru can help me. > > regards > > Lakshmi.K > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message 5 "mallika arjunan" smalli007 Mon May 15, 2006 6:28am(PDT) Re: Fire of Reservation --- Say No to Reservation hai tarun itz true . itz not the case with u. even i also faced the props many number of times in my life right from the B.E admission in govt colleges, M.Tech admission. i think in INDIA being a brahmin / General category is a curse. the foreign companies (MNC) should say no to all reservations. even the IIM/IIT should stop the reservation humbuk. this will put an end to all ILL-qualified people entering into those prestigious insti. with the help of quoto and the well-qualified people from general catergory to survive. WE ALL SAY NO TO RESERVATION ARJUN SINGH , "DON'T SPLIT INDIA BASED ON RESERVATION AND HOAX TO THE GLOBAL POPULATION" just for getting the votes of minority communities i think all will agree with my statement with regards Mallikarjunan hello members, In india this congress government is as usual using its statregy to win the elections. All the young people like me do face the problems in getting admission to higher education. there are only limited seats around 20-30 in every college and even in that reservation ...this is hopeless. Belonging to general category is like we committed a crime now. Is it for sure that all the general category people rich ....no...there are 60% government posts occupied by reservation people. I hope many people favour me and will spread their voice to STOP RESERVATION. thanks tarun Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Why was V. Sehwag warned by the BCCI? Share your knowledge on Answers India Send instant messages to your online friends - NOW ______________________ ______________________ Message 6 "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro Mon May 15, 2006 6:28am(PDT) Re: Bhavishya purana and Varivasya rahasyam .HARE RAM. Dear jayan, You may take these books from any stall of Geeta Press Gorakhpur. I brought Bhavishya Puran from there.I hope you may get Varivasya Rahasyam from there too. Regards Shashi Shekhar Sharma Jagannathan Kapisthalam wrote: Dear Sir, Some portions of Bhavishya Purana can be had access to at Shri Ramakrishna Ashram ,Hyderabad.there is a great library of books for free reading.You may kindly contact them.I too read some of it. Regards, Jagannathan. On 5/15/06, m_jyn wrote: > > aum Nama Sivaya > > Respected gurus and frinds, > > May I kindly be guided as to how I may able to get Bhavishya Purana and > Varivasya rahasyam. I have been searching for those two books but could > not locate it. If anyone has it with them, kindly contact me. > > with respectful regards, > jayan > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic > astrology Astrology > horoscope Astrology > software > ------------------------------ > > > > - Visit your group "vedic astrology" > on the web. > > - > vedic astrology > > - Terms of > Service . > > > ------------------------------ > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on FareChase ______________________ ______________________ Message 7 "crystal pages" rrgb Mon May 15, 2006 6:28am(PDT) Re: Request , please help you don't like the jupiter in this chart, despite gulika? vedic astrology, "Rahul Dev" wrote: > > Sovina > > Almost all the planets in your chart are weak and afflicted. Your 2nd lord > moon, ruling status is afflicted by ketu. Your 3rd lord sun, ruling > initiatives, is badly placed in 8th house. 4th lord mercury, ruling > comforts, is combust and badly placed in 8th house. Placement of Jupiter in > 10th house indicates your profession should be in the field of teaching & > consultancy. 11th lord mars, ruling gains, placed in 12th house, indicates > income from foreign land. > > RD > > > On 5/9/06, sovina76 wrote: > > > > I am a recent member of this group and would be highly obliged ,if > > respected astrologer(s) of this group could go through my horoscope and > > suggest me , my birht details are > > > > 29 jan , 1976 , 04: 13 pm , dehradun > > > > i intend to revive my proffessional life , please suggest how soon can > > i get job . > > > > > > kind regards > > > > Sovina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology chart t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrol ogy+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=UoktiPHSoTwQkpGMXBNe Eg> Vedic > > astrology t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrol ogy+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=qNtEn5POAbTpzmtNKIdn HA> Astrology > > horoscope t=ms&k=Astrology+horoscope&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=As trology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=8kShDb5zI- EsRMSq6tgiew> Astrology > > software t=ms&k=Astrology+software&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Ast rology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=Je51jg697mjdLNt6i LuaCw> > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > - Visit your group "vedic- astrology" > > on the web. > > > > - > > vedic astrology ?subject=Un> > > > > - Terms of > > Service . > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message 8 "KAMAL KISHORE Sharma" kishore73_06 Mon May 15, 2006 6:28am(PDT) Fwd: [vedic astrology] Please , get me some upayas Note: forwarded message attached. Why was V. Sehwag warned by the BCCI? Share your knowledge on Answers India Send instant messages to your online friends - NOW ______________________ ______________________ Message 9 "crystal pages" rrgb Mon May 15, 2006 6:28am(PDT) Re: Kendradhipathi Dosha Vs. Maha Purusha Yoga This is an interesting instance about mutually contradictory positions. Another one is described in BPHS which indicates that presence of jupiter, mercury or venus alone in a kendra would remove all evils in a chart. In the chapter before this one, combinations are given where jupiter is in the first house and in one case the combination kills the mother and in another, it kills the father. RR vedic astrology, "renunw" wrote: > > Dear learned members, > > "Benefics, if they become owners of Kendras do not bestow good on men." > > Then on the other hand when "Jupiter, Venus & Mercury are in Kendras in > own house or exalted give Maha Purusha Yoga." > > So for example in a Vrushika Lagna or Aries Lagna native if natal Venus > is in the 7th house or for a Gemini native Jupiter is in the 7th or 10 > th house etc. etc. what conclusion can one come upon since the above 2 > rules bring contradictory results? > > Kindly explain. > > Thank you, > > Blessings > > Renuji > ______________________ ______________________ Message 10 "deep_gem_999" deep_gem_999 Mon May 15, 2006 6:29am(PDT) Regarding Buiz Respected Members of Group, I have a typical query, I am into gemstone buissness.Things are fine if I do domestic retail buiz..but whenever I try to export things just go wrong..sometimes delay is in payment and sometimes something else happens.. Please guide me...I am really concerned as still there lots of money pending from foreign buyers... Regards Deepak ______________________ ______________________ Message 11 "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro Mon May 15, 2006 6:29am(PDT) Re: Query .HARE RAM. Dear Anand, Your marriage will take place this year positively.Plz offer water to Sun daily but on Sunday offer water putting in 12 pieces of Rice, Red flower,Suger and vermilion.Always use copper pot for offering water and wear a simple silver ring on Friday after Sun set in middle finger.God bless you. With good wishes Shashi Shekhar Sharma Mobile-09818310075 Nallan Anand wrote: Dear Sir, My DOB Details are 23.02.1975, 06:30am, Coimbatore.. My marriage delays for last 5 years....Though there is no single set back from my side... Is there any denial of marriage is there in my horoscope ? Anand N || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. ______________________ ______________________ Message 12 "S.C. Kursija" sckursija Mon May 15, 2006 6:29am(PDT) Re: Kendradhipathi Dosha Vs. Maha Purusha Yoga Om Shri Gurave Namah Dear friend, To be owner and to be posited in a house are two different things. When a benefic planet is owner of Kendra he will not be able to his his benefic results. but when he is posited in Kendra, he will give auspicious results. When a planet is exalted or posited in own sign he gets strenghth and give more auspicious results. renunw wrote: Dear learned members, "Benefics, if they become owners of Kendras do not bestow good on men." Then on the other hand when "Jupiter, Venus & Mercury are in Kendras in own house or exalted give Maha Purusha Yoga." So for example in a Vrushika Lagna or Aries Lagna native if natal Venus is in the 7th house or for a Gemini native Jupiter is in the 7th or 10 th house etc. etc. what conclusion can one come upon since the above 2 rules bring contradictory results? Kindly explain. Thank you, Blessings Renuji ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. ______________________ ______________________ Message 13 "samyakmedia" samyakmedia Mon May 15, 2006 6:29am(PDT) Abroad employment opportunity Hon'ble Astrologers, I have an opportunity to travel abroad for job purpose. I have been asked by one of the US companies to work for them in African nation. I know these people through internet for last two years. Will this opportunity materialise? Is it advisable to go ahead with this opportunity? Avinash DOB: 25/08/1973 Place of Birth: Ausa, Dist. Latur, Maharashtra, India. Time of Birth: 5.15 PM Thanks in advance Avinash ______________________ ______________________ Message 14 "S Rg" srg_in06 Mon May 15, 2006 6:30am(PDT) Help! Om Sri Sainathay Namah Respected learned Gurujis, I am new to the group and seek your kind help. The native in question is our daughter who was married to the boy she loved in 2004. She was tortured by the husband , her in-laws from day 1. After trying her best to adjust she had to quit and take up a job. No reconciliation .The divorce process is about to start. Her Birth details.... 18.02 .1982 , 20.01 hrs Place-- 85.50 E, 20.15 N What is her future? Some say this happened bcz she is manglik?Some say she is manglik, some say it is cancelled due to presence of Saturn in H-1 .So many articles are posted on Mangal Dosha. It is all confusing.Is she manglik ? what is to be done? Remedy, please! What is the future for her? Yours, A distressed mother ______________________ ______________________ Message 15 "biswajeet raja" biswajeet_raja Mon May 15, 2006 6:30am(PDT) Re: Query plz advise me about my marriage and my career. i was born on 7th feb 1978 at 10.15 a.m. in cuttack (orissa)on tuesday. --- Jagannathan Kapisthalam wrote: Dear Sir, Matrimonial matters will gather momentum after Jupiter transits to Vrischkam in Oct,2006.I wish you all the best. Regards,Jagannathan. On 5/14/06, Nallan Anand wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > My DOB Details are 23.02.1975, 06:30am, Coimbatore.. > > My marriage delays for last 5 years....Though there is no single set > back from my side... > > Is there any denial of marriage is there in my horoscope ? > > Anand N > Archives: vedic astrology > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic > astrology Astrology > horoscope Astrology > software > ------------------------------ > > > > - Visit your group "vedic astrology" > on the web. > > - To from this group, send an email to: > vedic astrology > > - Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service . > > > ------------------------------ > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Terms of Service. ______________________ ______________________ Message 16 "sovina76" sovina76 Mon May 15, 2006 6:31am(PDT) Re: Astrologer(s) Please advice Kind attn : Rahul Dev ji AS per my understanding i am running through sat/mer dasha , could you please relook my horoscope. rohit vedic astrology, "Rahul Dev" wrote: > > Rohit > > Currently you are running Saturn/Mars dasha. Saturn, in transit, is > afflicted by nodes, hence this problem. Exercise patience till end of June. > You will definitely get a job. > > RD > > > On 5/9/06, rohitsikka wrote: > > > > kind Attn : Honourable Astrologer(s) > > > > Sub : Seeking Advice > > > > Since sep last year proffessional aspect of my life is not on right > > track infact i am without job/work. I seek your help on that , please > > suggest when will my career would flourish and how soon will i get job. > > > > my birth details are , 2nd march 1975, 04:42 am , Delhi > > > > kind regards > > > > Rohit Sikka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology chart t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrol ogy+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=UoktiPHSoTwQkpGMXBNe Eg> Vedic > > astrology t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrol ogy+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=qNtEn5POAbTpzmtNKIdn HA> Astrology > > horoscope t=ms&k=Astrology+horoscope&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=As trology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=8kShDb5zI- EsRMSq6tgiew> Astrology > > software t=ms&k=Astrology+software&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Ast rology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=Je51jg697mjdLNt6i LuaCw> > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > - Visit your group "vedic- astrology" > > on the web. > > > > - > > vedic astrology ?subject=Un> > > > > - Terms of > > Service . > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message 17 "Siddharth" siddharthdelta Mon May 15, 2006 6:31am(PDT) Re: Digest Number 3960 Thanks to Mr. (gg_0202 ). I'm very much kind to this Well experienced young Astrologer; who have not only solved my problem , but uncovered some dark facts put by some money eating Astrologers. I must suggest people or members & well respected astronomers; who are still trying to catch some stars/planets of Pramod Mahajan & TN- CM; who are no more with us. Try to solve the problem; of the people who really need help & their messages are still in pending List. Try to do some nobel cause at-least; who are still present in this world; not wasting time for CM & PM, who already have their future to crush our future. Do visit http://gauravastro.blogspot.com/ & at-least try to thank this young astrologer for his effort. vedic astrology wrote: There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Pramod "tw853" tw853 2. Re: Who would be the Next C.M of T.N- My Attempt Part 1/2. "Sathiyanarayana Gupta" gupta816 3. Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! "P Kumar" pkumar24 4. A Request to All members!!! "" gg_0202 5. Re: A Request to All members!!! Ghosh Babu, "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego 6. Please help this native --second post ! "avin6dl" avin6dl 7. Trouble in job/Need suggestion "sukanta mahakhuda" suks400 8. Re: need advice on neechbhanga rajyayoga "mohitslovein" mohitvirmani 9. Re: Pramod "n_akoch" n_akoch 10. Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on Pramod Mahajan/Doubts "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro 11. Future Path "anstri" anstri77 12. Re: ketu's sub period "r_m_sharma" ram.dishant 13. Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro 14. curse "nutan2510" nutan2510 15. Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego 16. EMERALD BUDDHA: Sacred Object of Siam "Richard Shaw Brown" rsbj66 17. Re: Trouble in job/Need suggestion "Jagannathan Kapisthalam" jagannathankr 18. Why - Navamsha for Spouse "vijayadas_pradeep" vijayadas_pradeep 19. Re: Please help this native --second post ! "David Andrews" andrews635 20. Re: Next CM - TN ? Rahu Centric approach Swearing in time. "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego 21. Free astrology charting software "vishwraj" vishwraj 22. twins qu. "kamalrattesar" kamalrattesar 23. Re: Free astrology charting software "jyothi_b_lakshmi" jyothi_b_lakshmi 24. use of gemnstone for saturn for leo lagna native "Prafulla Gang" ripra_solutions 25. Vyasa-SJC Circle, 14 May 11:00 am, California "Gail Francisco" gailfrancisco ______________________ ______________________ Message 1 "tw853" tw853 Fri May 12, 2006 4:40am(PDT) Re: Pramod http://www.journalofastrology.com/ARTICLES/propod_mahajan_13.htm vedic astrology, "renunw" wrote: > > Dear Haizen, > > I would be very grateful to you, if I can have a copy of the article, > > Thank you, > > Blessings > > Renu > > vedic astrology, "haizen" wrote: > > > > Hello: > > > > I will be sending out the article privately as soon as I've > > finished adding more material and proofing it. The new > > section is, "What indicates Pravin's anger in Pramod's > > chart?" I feel these transits are a quite revealing, and > > this means going back a few days before the tragic > > event. In the meantime, please forgive the delay and I > > hope to send it out within the next 24 hours. > > > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige > > > > > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" wrote: > > > > > > Dear Haizen, > > > Please send me the said article. I shall feel indebted. > > > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > > > - > > > "haizen" > > > To: > > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:57 PM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction > on Pramod > > > Mahajan/Doubts > > > > > > > > > Hello to all: > > > > > > Two days ago I completed my own detailed analysis of the > > > Vrisha chart KN Rao received from R.S. Pawar and prefers, and I > > > am willing to share it privately with those who are interested > > > in getting at the astrological roots of this unexpected loss. I > > > did the analysis to test out the chart for myself and it works > > > excellently; plus it brings out a number of significant points > > > of tension between Mr. Mahajan and his younger brother. I > > > would not have shared this analysis publicly while he was alive > > > out of deference to his family and friends, but I have found it > > > instructive to bring understanding to this tragedy after the fact. > > > His chart is one of few exceptions I've made when it comes to > > > looking at the rashi chakras of contemporary political figures: > > > he was not the usual politician. > > > > > > Put "Pramod" in the subject line of your request. Article will be > > > sent as a "Word" document. I am not connected with KN Rao, but I > > > think he might find this analysis of interest if he ever comes > upon > > > it. > > > > > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige > > > Sedona, AZ, USA > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Shashi Shekhar, > > > > > > > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I > > > > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and > with > > > > humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer > who > > > > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent > > > > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without > checking > > > > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go > > > > wrong). > > > > > > > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > .HARE RAM. > > > > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee, > > > > > Saadar Charan > > > > Sparsha! > > > > > > > > > > He is my > second Guru > > > > in astrology but like Aacharya > > > > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him > before > > > > while i am resident > > > > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves > > > > knowledge so a have some > > > > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to > keep > > > > before him.I hope kind > > > > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us > the > > > > reason according to > > > > > Vrishabh Lagana. > > > > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we > > > > predict that this native had a > > > > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own > house. > > > > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the > 8th > > > > lord sitted in own house, > > > > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be > soft, 7th > > > > lord is in own sign. > > > > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger > brother? > > > > Karak of 3rd house > > > > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of > same > > > > house is sitted with Lagan > > > > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of > Karak > > > > nor the lord of 3rd house > > > > > Moon was running at the time of incident. > > > > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request > to Sh. > > > > Rao jee through you if > > > > > these are baseless,please ignore them and > forgive me. > > > > > > > > > > With Due Regards > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > Mobile-09818310075 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaartik Gor wrote: > > > > > Om Sai Ram > > > > > > > > > > KN RAO Sir is a legend and his silence did say a lot to > people who > > > > know him. > > > > > > > > > > Like always he shows the way to everyone. > > > > > > > > > > God bless him !!! > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > KG > > > > > > > > > > Vishal Bhatia wrote: > > > > > Pramod Mahajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 22 April, a Saturday, when I was going to the Bharatiya > Vidya > > > > Bhawan, I got from R.S. Pawar, the co author of the book on > > > > Dwadashottari Dasha, the horoscope of Pramod Mahajan along with > the > > > > degrees dictated to me while we were in a car. Presuming it to > be > > > > correct, it was put on the board in the class which has two > doctors > > > > also. I told the class that I saw it as a hopeless case if the > > > > horoscope was correct. One male doctor said that there existed > some > > > > hope because the lungs and heart were not affected while a lady > > > > doctor said that it was difficult case. > > > > > > > > > > Back home, I was bombarded with different horoscopes, most of > them > > > > preferring Mithuna lagna, while one went on to even Simha lagna > with > > > > the date of birth being different, 27 October 1948. The date 27 > > > > October was given to me by a Maharastrian woman living in > Calcutta > > > > who said that it was got from an astrologer of Maharastra who > had > > > > this horoscope in his possession and had made predictions for > the > > > > Mahajan family on this horoscope.That astrologer predicted > recovery > > > > after April. So it was a case of confusion worse confounded. > > > > > > > > > > In different television programmes most of them showed Mithuna > > > > lagna and said that if he survived 27 and 28 of April , Mahajan > would > > > > survive. Another astrologer using the same data but Vrischika > lagna > > > > also said that if, Pramod Mahajan survived the last few days of > > > > April, he would survive and become the most important leader of > the > > > > BJP. > > > > > > > > > > Then on different websites almost everyone seemed to prefer > Mithuna > > > > lagna and all of them repeated the same prediction of it being > fatal > > > > in the last days of April and survival later, even a much > greater > > > > future than he had had so far. > > > > > During the days the Pramod Mahajan tragedy was being > discussed in > > > > the media, particularly by the television media, I received the > > > > following email from Switzerland and see my reply. > > > > > ==================================== > > > > > "Vijayadas,Pradeep Kumar" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "knrao" > > > > > Pramod Mahajan > > > > > Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:42:58 IST > > > > > Dear K.N.Raoji > > > > > Is it about Moon a Maraka transiting 12th from/on to lagna > during > > > > the said 2 days.In natal chart Moon is with lagna lord and > aspected > > > > by saturn in transit.(Is saturn 22nd drekkana lord) Another > maraka > > > > jupiter is also aspecting lagna from transit position. > > > > > Respect > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > knrao Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44 > > > > > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar > > > > > Re: Pramod Mahajan > > > > > Pradeep, > > > > > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with the > > > > following details seem to be reliable: > > > > > 30 Oct 948 / 19/51 /Mahboobnagar > > > > > Lagna Vrisha 17/39 > > > > > Moon in Kanya 21/35 > > > > > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April he > can > > > > drag on for four months at most if this horoscope is correct. > > > > > K.N.Rao > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 Vijayadas,Pradeep > > > > > Kumar wrote : > > > > > Dear K.N.Raoji > > > > > Do you have the horoscope of shri Pramod Mahajan. > > > > > Respect > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At no stage I saw any chances of the survival of Mahajan on > the > > > > basis of the horoscope I had before me. I had no reason to > doubt it > > > > as some of the events of his life are verifiable from this > horoscope > > > > including his educational pattern. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was aware that as many as five horoscopes were in > circulation and > > > > some television channels desperate to be the "first" to cover > it from > > > > all angles , including the strological > > > > > analysis, approached many astrologers. I was approached by > some > > > > channels but I refused to appear in any television show . I did > not > > > > want to cause any pain to the family of Pramod Mahajan which > had been > > > > in deep agony during all these days. In fact, while a Hindi > > > > television channel showed a woman anchor talk aggressively of it > > > > being very fatal when water from the kidneys of Mahajan was > being > > > > removed on 27 April, an English channel showed in a rather > cultured > > > > way a correspondent saying that a request had been received > from the > > > > family of Mahajan not to overplay it as fatal. It was clear > from this > > > > that India's private television channels will never learn to be > > > > cultured. > > > > > > > > > > There is so much awkardness and delicacy in discussing openly > the > > > > impending death of someone in glaring news. It is not the first > time > > > > that many astrologers have claimed that they have got the > horoscopes > > > > from most reliable "family sources". Majority of them stuck to > > > > Mithuna lagna and predicted recovery. > > > > > > > > > > But what a student passed on to me with Vrisha lagna appealed > to me > > > > as correct and I privately predicted to friends that it was not > a > > > > case of recovery and, at most, it could drag on only for a week > or > > > > fortnight. I saw no chance of recovery at all. It is what I had > > > > written to Pradeep on 24 April. > > > > > > > > > > I am surprised at astrologers who cannot see the rise of > Mahajan in > > > > the dasha of Saturn the tenth lord from Vrisha lagna. Why are > they > > > > sticking to Mithuna and predicting recovery? > > > > > > > > > > See for instance the period of his rise. In Chara dasha it > would be > > > > the dasha of Vrischika with an excellent eleventh house > containing > > > > the Amatyakaraka and period of his amassing wealth also. In > Vrischika- > > > > Meena- Karka in 1996 with Mars aspecting the tenth house he was > even > > > > Defence Minister for a brief period during the ill fated 13 days > > > > government of Atal Behari Vajpai. > > > > > > > > > > From Tula Kumbha 3 July 2003 with Amatyakaraka falling in the > > > > eighth house he failed with his India Shining slogan and the NDA > > > > government and BJP fell from power. TV predictions of some > > > > astrologers Almost all astrologers said that the transit of > Moon in > > > > Mesha could be fatal but all of them added that if he survived > that, > > > > he would recover. > > > > > > > > > > With so many combinations for fatality present even from > Mithuna > > > > lagna, how was Mahajan's survival seen ? > > > > > > > > > > From Vrisha lagna, the inevitable was visible more easily. I > had a > > > > different view it will be Saturn- Rahu-Mercury which was rather > bad. > > > > But to say, that he would recover after that appeared > impossible to > > > > me. And ofcourse Moon in Mesha is a signal of danger. And later > Moon > > > > in Mithuna would be equally dangerous as it would aspect the > > > > Karakamsha and also the pada of the eighth lord together with > Mars. > > > > > > > > > > The period that would continue after will not be less fatal. > There > > > > was no chance of a recovery at all. It was prudent to avoid > > > > television channels and discuss the available horoscope of > Mahajan > > > > quietly in our astrological circles, I decided. > > > > > > > > > > As in the case of news in general so too in the case of > Mahajan, > > > > balanced news coverage > > > > > was available only in the Doordarshan which is government > > > > controlled and has a tradition of dignity, news sense presented > by > > > > mature and experience journalists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASTROLOGICAL ANALYSIS > > > > > The analysis we had arrived at was the following. > > > > > > > > > > Vimshottari dasha > > > > > In Vimshottari dasha it is Saturn-Rahu-Mercury from 6 January > 2006 > > > > to 3 June 2006 and Mercury here is the second lord and maraka. > > > > > > > > > > Chara dasha > > > > > The picture is clearer in Jaimini's Chara Dasha in which it is > > > > Kanya which contains both the Atmakaraka and the Karakamsha. The > > > > antardasha is Mesha from 31 May 2005 to 31 May 2006. This is > eighth > > > > from Karakamsha and fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Sthira dasha > > > > > The picture is equally depressing in Jaimini Sthira dasha.. > It is > > > > Mesha Mesha upto 5 May 2006. So no hope can he held out. May 5 > is > > > > like a distant date now.This is eighth from Karakamsha and > fatal . > > > > Mesha is eighth from Karakamsha and Atmakaraka and from here, > > > > Bhartikaraka, Mars is in the eighth house showing the brother > being > > > > in trouble. Mesha antardasha is aspected by Mars and Saturn > showing > > > > the violent incident. > > > > > > > > > > The transit of the day > > > > > Both the lagna lord Venus and Moon are in Kanya on which Ketu > has > > > > been transitting and now Saturn from Karka and Mars from > Mithuna are > > > > aspecting it showing the dangerous event clearly. The fifth > house > > > > from Vrisha represents the stomach region, as a student pointed > out. > > > > > > > > > > Tajak > > > > > A colleague in the Institute of Astrology, Bharatiya Vidya > Bhawan, > > > > Sri Saxena, worked on the Tajak of Pramod Mahajan and told me > that > > > > the conclusion I had come to, of it being the end of everything > for > > > > Mahajan, was confirmed through the annual horoscope also. Here > Mars > > > > in the fifth house aspecting Saturn in the eighth is ominous > enough > > > > and Saturn is the third lord also. Here Muntha is in the second > house > > > > aspected by Saturn and the lord of Muntha, Saturn is in the > eighth > > > > house aspected by Mars. The fatal picture drawn from > Vimshottari and > > > > Jaimini's Chara dasha is corroborated. > > > > > > > > > > Bhrigu approach > > > > > As I was writing this, S. S.dropped in and I asked him to > give a > > > > Bhrigu analysis presuming the data to be accurate. SS has been > doing > > > > some remarkable researches in Bhrigu and wants to remain > anynymous > > > > for some personal reasons. He did it and said that nothing was > good > > > > and there was no hope. > > > > > > > > > > I decided to post this piece in the first week of May, as in > Sthira > > > > dasha, the fatal period is upto 5 May. > > > > > > > > > > NOTE > > > > > I had told a BJP leader of middle level about a political > > > > assassination a week before the tragedy of Mahajan and I will > > > > disclose it later. > > > > > (Written in parts between 25 April and 2 May 2006) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE PREDICTION OF THE ASSASSINATION OF A POLITICAL LEADER > > > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > The horoscope of BJP must reflect and it is here that I must > tell > > > > readers that I had made a prediction that there would be the > > > > assassination of a leader soon. These are very confidential > > > > predictions and so sensitive that I do not want anyone other > than the > > > > person to whom I tell it, to even get an inkling of it. > > > > > See the letter below: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > Prof K.N.Rao. > > > > > FEROZE VARUN GANDHI > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > I was deeply shocked to hear of the misfortune that had > befallen > > > > Pramodji. I remembered the prediction made to me a week earlier > that > > > > a major assassination of a political leader would take place > soon. I > > > > have been thinking about your prediction and several others > made by > > > > you over the last year. The accuracy of them continues to > astound me. > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > Varun > > > > > 27/4/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subsequent to this, I received many phones from many people > asking > > > > me what was my prediction about Pramod Mahajan. I told them > that I > > > > had no doubt that the horoscope I was using in his case was > correct > > > > and on this basis I would not even give one percent chance to > Mahajan > > > > for survival. This prediction of mine did not seem to be in > line with > > > > the periodical medical bulletins someone told me. Astrologers > were > > > > optimistic of his prediction if he survived April but I was not > at > > > > any stage. > > > > > The immediate fatal date after 27/28 April would be before 5 > May I > > > > told them. I have discussed the basis for this in the main body > of > > > > the article. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from > your PC > > > > and save big. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Links > > > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message 2 "Sathiyanarayana Gupta" gupta816 Fri May 12, 2006 7:14am(PDT) Re: Who would be the Next C.M of T.N- My Attempt Part 1/2. Dear Shri.Raghunatha Rao, I have not found fault with your predictions. Since many different charts of the celebrities are in circulation , in the instant case I found that the only convergent point among all Astrologers in the pray is Janma nakshtra . Hence I relayed my final predictions on the principles of Pancha Pakshi sastra .As predicted the DMK have won 96 seats and fell short of 22 seats for forming its own indipendant Government with its own absolute majority. What I meant by my predictions has been explained as referred to above.Thank you very much for seeking my clarifications. With regards, D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. P.S. I am in USA. Raghunatha RaoNemani wrote: Om Krishna Guru Namaste Gupta Ji, Thanks for the note and also for the Pancha Pakshi Shastra analysis. With due respect to you, your Pakshi analysis is not fully completed hence the result you got was incorrect. When time is right and when I get permission from Guru Ji, then I shall write some details about this later. Meanwhile, if you are still living in USA,then call me during my lunch hour, then I will explain the pieces which you have not considered in your analysis. As you know, I am still a beginner in Jyotish and a lot to learn and with your blessings I will to stay focused on my studies in Jyotish. Regards Raghunatha Rao vedic astrology, Sathiyanarayana Gupta wrote: Sathiyanarayana Gupta Wed May 10, 2006 9:47 pm Re: Who would be the Next C.M of T.N- My Attempt Part 1/2. Dear Raghunatha Rao, I understand from your analysis that Dr.M.Karunanithi ji and Dr.J.Jayalalitha were born in Mrigasira and Magha Nakshatra respectively . Therefore it would be appropriate to relay on "Pakshi" sastra than on their natal charts. Eagle is inactive on Thursdays,which is the pakshi for Dr.M.Karunanithi, hence he may not attain required majority for forming his Government. Dr.J.Jayalalitha's pakshi is owl which is active after 8.17 am IST.The counting of votes had already began in India as per their Calender Thursday the 11th May 2006 at 7.00 am [now our EST10.02 pm = IST 7.32 am]. Let us wait and see the actual results. With regards, D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. ------- original message --- Raghunatha RaoNemani wrote: Om Krishna Guru Namaste KarunaKaram Ji and All, Many have already attempted the analysis and I would like to see from point of view too. So here is my attempt. I have considered the following birth details for the two candidates and giving my analysis. The source of this birth details are from some of the conferences (I do not remember which one, but I have recorded in my laptop.) I would like to apply few different methods to see the affects on their election outcome. I) Let me take Smt Jaya Lalita's chart first. || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ______________________ ______________________ Message 3 "P Kumar" pkumar24 Fri May 12, 2006 9:15am(PDT) Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! I agree 100%. Apart from astrology, moral uprightness is of very high value and we should respect such persons, always. I too know Shri K.N.Rao personally, follow him astrologically and respect him for his ethically high values. P.Kumar (Mumbai) - "sreeram srinivas" To: Cc: "'Noname Noname'" ; "Renuka Prematillake" Friday, May 12, 2006 2:12 PM [vedic astrology] RE: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! > Sri K.N.Rao is a person from whom I learnt the holy subject and respect > him. Having interacted with him for long, I am sure that the telecast that > you referred in your mail - which I did not see ( but cannot comment much ), > one thing is sure, that the words spoken by Sri K.N. Rao would not be in > terms of any "fatalist" tone. He is the person who has excellent command > either hindi or english and knows the use of language- he picks his words > carefully. This is my own assessement as an individual. He never sought > publicity himself - other than promoting astrology. For the "clout" he has > with either politicians or businessmen or even normal public, had he any > intentions of such "going public", he would not living in a small single > room, living on his own monies & ethics,...etc.. > > While I say this, let me submit, being in a industry - where "organizations" > base their decisions of our(my) reports either verbal or written, we are > not carried away in supporting someone blindly without a valid reason. It > is the media responsible for painting astrology black, while they earn > monies, by publishing weekly forecasts for public consumption !!! every > weekend. Sri K.N. Rao despite his health constraints, did take time to > fight cases in Indian Courts including Supreme Court in favor of astrology - > is it public stunt ??? When no other "Titled" astrologer worth his name, > engaged in selling his knowledge has time or energy to defend it when it > needed most - or is this a public stunt ??? > > I think it is time that we need to base our opinions not on single words or > sentences of a person, but take a holistic view of everything and then > conclude. I am sure you will agree with me on this !! > > Reproducing the article published on Sri K.N. Rao's website for ready > reference. > > with regards, > > sreeram srinivas > > sreeram64 > > > > > > Kunjilal the astrologer > > who predicted his own death but failed > > K.N.Rao. > > > > On 20 October some private television channels covered extensively a > peculiar news item. An astrologer of Madhya Pradesh by the name Kunjilal had > predicted that he would die on 20 October 2005 between 3 and 4 pm. TV > cameras were showing him, his family members and the crowds that had > gathered to see it near a temple inside which Kunjilal was shown meditating > with his eyes closed. > > I was asked by India's number one television channel, AAJ TAK, to > participate in a live coverage along with a psychologist and a "rationalist" > participating from Calcutta. > > I said that I wanted some details about the horoscope of Kunjilal which > could not be got . The only information available was that he was born on 20 > October 1930 at Betul with Tula lagna. The approximate horoscope cast on > this basis was as follows. > > > Why the "rationalist "? > > I asked privately why had they invited a so called "rationalist" when these > fellows and physical scientists who had been shouting against astrology, > dominating the English newspapers of India and the television channels with > their irrational attacks on astrology since ages had lost three legal > battles in the last three years. > > Madras High Court > > First they filed a case against the introduction astrology as a subject of > study in Madras High Court where they had all the opportunity to argue > against astrology. IT IS ALSO A DISGRACE > > > > > > THAT NO HINDU ASTROLOGER WHO SWEARS BY EIGHTEEN RISHIS EVEN APPEARED AS A > PETITIONER IN PERSON TO DEFEND ASTROLOGY. > > But astrology won the case in Madras High Court. > > > Andhra High Court > > Then the case came up in the Andhra High Court where again astrologers won > the case. IT IS ALSO A DISGRACE THAT NO HINDU ASTROLOGER WHO SWEARS BY > EIGHTEEN RISHIS EVEN APPEARED AS A PETITIONER IN PERSON TO DEFEND ASTROLOGY. > > The Supreme Court of India > > The case came up in the Supreme Court of India where it was admitted to be > heard on merits which was good for astrology as, if we won it, the > controversy would be over for ever. I was ailing then and was not sure if I > could sit in the Supreme Court for three hours at a stretch and could walk > comfortably in the premises of the Supreme Court. > > Many astrologers can speak and write in English and could have filed > petitions in the Supreme Court. NONE DID IT. I WAS THE ONLY ASTROLOGER > FIGHTING THE CASE WITH MY AILING CONDITION. > > > I argued the case effectively and astrology won the case. > > Why are the so called "rationalists" shouting now when the physical > scientists have been lying low, having been beaten hollow three times now? > > What have these so called "rationalists" to say now except mouthing their > ignorance which have been rejected by the courts thrice ? It was time for us > 11 astrologers to laugh at and ridicule those communists, physical > scientists and the "rationalists" who in collusion with fellow travellers > and > pseudo intellectuals in English journalism , for full four years between > 2000 and 2004, wrote and said on television that introduction of astrology > would amount to encouraging superstition. These denationalised and > despiritualised Indians were those dangerous apes who for the time being > seemed to be winning the debate and the battle till three courts dealt them > mortal blows one after another and showed them their place. Now when they > see some cultural-religious-spirtual-astrological themes dominating some > television programmes, they feel helpless and ex-press their impotent rage. > While physical scientists have to be on their guard because they think that > they have a "prestige" to guard, the "rationalists" can afford to behave > buffoonishly. > > But television channels want some sensation and they gave chance to so > called "rationalist" who at no stage had anything intelligent to say. I knew > that I had to suffer it and tolerate only so long as my patience would hold > out. > > What I said > > 1) I started by saying that it was unethical to do what Kunjilal was doing, > creating so much tension for his family, particularly for his wife who was > shown in her semi-rustic dress praying to Lord Hanuman, as she said, on > Karuva Chauth which fell on 20 October 2005. For those who do not know it, > Karuva Chauth is observed by married women in northern India for the long > life of their husbands. These women fast whole of the day, pray, and break > their fast only after seeing the Moon after sunset. > > > It was an ironical situation now. If Kunjilal died, his astrology would > triumph.If he survived, people would say that his wife's Karva Chauth saved > her husband !!! > > 2) I said that there were instances of such advance predictions made by > astrologers about their own death. But they had foretold about the bad years > and months of their lives at most and not the precise day and hour as > Kunjilal was doing. > > 3) Kunjilal may have made his own calculations and could be running the > dasha of Mercury which being the seventh dasha could be a maraka. Television > channels were saying that he had predicted correctly the time of the death > of many persons including his own father's who was also an astrologer. > > PSYCHIATRIC TREATMENT > > 4) Towards the end when the "rationalist" uttered something irrational half > of which I could hear feebly because of some technical fault, and would not > have known if the anchor had not repeated it, I said , rather harshly, that > those who, without studying astrology scientifically, criticise it, should > get themselves examined by pychiaritsts. > > > The last remark of mine must have irritated all those who had carried on a > vigorous campaign against astrology particularly in the English print media > of India between 2000 and 2004 May after which the Supreme Court finally > gave its verdict in favour of astrology. But one journalist did misquote me > and said that I had felt strongly that it was possible. I heard two times > the CD of that telecast. I never said that. > > The last laugh was mine, this time in a live television show watched by > millions in India. I had asked critics of astrology to get themselves > treated mentally. > > Kunjilal did not die and has done some damage to the cause of astrology by > miscalculating the time of his own death and making such a big show of it. > He did not at all appear to be a gimmick maker but a genuine, gentle and > successful astrologer dreading death by misapplying his own astrology to > himself. He started perspiring when it was nearing 4.pm which means that he > had believed that he would die that day. > > But he was a relieved man later when he survived his own bad prediction , > but had done damage to his own reputation and to astrology. > > That does not matter. All of us have some failed predictions. Astrology is a > super science and astrologers are ill trained because of which instead of > concentrating on good researches they play God and prescribe remedies as > though they can perform plastic surgery on human fate. > > > > > > _____ > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Tatvam-Asi > Friday, May 12, 2006 12:21 AM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES > !!! > > > Dear Arjun Ji, > Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions? > A bit curious. > > K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing the > astrologer's chart. > And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and may die at > predicted time. > > Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no answer to > this question. > > Tatvam-Asi > > By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity seeker > IMHO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > Links > > > > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message 4 "" gg_0202 Fri May 12, 2006 9:15am(PDT) A Request to All members!!! ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Learned Members, Almost two weeks have passed after the death of Shree Pramod Mahajan, still i find the members keep themselves busy in discussing about his charts, accusing each other for making wrong predictions, while others eulogise any Particular Astrologer. I am not cursing any prediction nor I am criticising any wrong predictions ...for Astrologers are not GOD.... I think its futile to discuss about the death of Pramod Mahajan or teh next CM of TN..etc... Mailing with puzzle charts will not only benefit the person who is posting, but also it will be a good homework who are aspiring to be astrologers in their future....Moreover I find that there are more charts lying in the message list who are seeking help... I hope revered scholars will not mind this request from refraining themeselves about discussing Pramod Mahajan's chart or next cm of tn etc.... Wish all success, P.S.:---All members are requested not to send me too many private messages from this time onwards, as I dont have time to reply them. However, they can chat with me through messenger, if they wish. I would rather recommen them to post their problem/query to this list, for their are learned scholars here... . ______________________ ______________________ Message 5 "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego Fri May 12, 2006 9:37am(PDT) Re: A Request to All members!!! Ghosh Babu, Pramod Mahajan case I can understand but why Next CM of TN ? M.K Karunanidhi has not yet assumes office. We need to discuss what went wrong in predicting win for Madam. This is a live case still. wrote: ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Learned Members, Almost two weeks have passed after the death of Shree Pramod Mahajan, still i find the members keep themselves busy in discussing about his charts, accusing each other for making wrong predictions, while others eulogise any Particular Astrologer. I am not cursing any prediction nor I am criticising any wrong predictions ...for Astrologers are not GOD.... I think its futile to discuss about the death of Pramod Mahajan or teh next CM of TN..etc... Mailing with puzzle charts will not only benefit the person who is posting, but also it will be a good homework who are aspiring to be astrologers in their future....Moreover I find that there are more charts lying in the message list who are seeking help... I hope revered scholars will not mind this request from refraining themeselves about discussing Pramod Mahajan's chart or next cm of tn etc.... Wish all success, P.S.:---All members are requested not to send me too many private messages from this time onwards, as I dont have time to reply them. However, they can chat with me through messenger, if they wish. I would rather recommen them to post their problem/query to this list, for their are learned scholars here... . || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. ______________________ ______________________ Message 6 "avin6dl" avin6dl Fri May 12, 2006 10:55am(PDT) Please help this native --second post ! Dear Members, A friend of mine is going through very very tough times and it would be extremely helpful if someone can have a look at her birth chart and suggest something. Her details are: DOB : 10/14/1970 Time: 8:38am Location: Hammond Indiana Latitude : 41 30 N Long : 87 30 W Any advise or analysis will be very useful and highly appreciated. Thanks in advance, -Avin ______________________ ______________________ Message 7 "sukanta mahakhuda" suks400 Fri May 12, 2006 11:19am(PDT) Trouble in job/Need suggestion Jai radheshyam, I Sukant a new member to the group. My life has been troublesome for last few years.But last March(2006) was one of the harshest.so now I am very apprehensive of my future. I was working in an MNC as a computer engineer, but lost my job within 3.5 months. But somehow I got to manage to get ajob again. I want to from you expert that whether I wil be able to continue this job smoothly or is there any obstacle to it.If so what remedy should I follow?Please give some suggestion. My date of birth: 27 - 06 - 1974 Time : 10.05 AM Place of Birth : Sonepur,Orissa Thank you Sukant Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ______________________ ______________________ Message 8 "mohitslovein" mohitvirmani Fri May 12, 2006 11:20am(PDT) Re: need advice on neechbhanga rajyayoga hello sir as seeing ur horoscope seeing that 8th house is strong as lord of 8th house is connected wit lot of planets in ur horoscope as u see ur sani lord of third and fourth house is in 8th and guru wit rahu seeing eight and lord of 8th house is in 1st house and inter change wit 11th house in as lord of 9th house and 7th nad 12th lord and lord of 1st house and 6th house in that only lord of 10th ouse is in 12 in neech so i dont his maha dasha but he wil go in lot of ups and down as 8th house is hidden house and unexpected gain and losses it wil give result as per his mahadasha and antra dasha any way bye take care ______________________ ______________________ Message 9 "n_akoch" n_akoch Fri May 12, 2006 11:20am(PDT) Re: Pramod - Dear Haizen , could you please send me the article and your analysis ? thanks, and regards, N. Koch -- In vedic astrology, "haizen" wrote: > > Hello: > > I will be sending out the article privately as soon as I've > finished adding more material and proofing it. The new > section is, "What indicates Pravin's anger in Pramod's > chart?" I feel these transits are a quite revealing, and > this means going back a few days before the tragic > event. In the meantime, please forgive the delay and I > hope to send it out within the next 24 hours. > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige > > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" wrote: > > > > Dear Haizen, > > Please send me the said article. I shall feel indebted. > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > - > > "haizen" > > To: > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:57 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on Pramod > > Mahajan/Doubts > > > > > > Hello to all: > > > > Two days ago I completed my own detailed analysis of the > > Vrisha chart KN Rao received from R.S. Pawar and prefers, and I > > am willing to share it privately with those who are interested > > in getting at the astrological roots of this unexpected loss. I > > did the analysis to test out the chart for myself and it works > > excellently; plus it brings out a number of significant points > > of tension between Mr. Mahajan and his younger brother. I > > would not have shared this analysis publicly while he was alive > > out of deference to his family and friends, but I have found it > > instructive to bring understanding to this tragedy after the fact. > > His chart is one of few exceptions I've made when it comes to > > looking at the rashi chakras of contemporary political figures: > > he was not the usual politician. > > > > Put "Pramod" in the subject line of your request. Article will be > > sent as a "Word" document. I am not connected with KN Rao, but I > > think he might find this analysis of interest if he ever comes upon > > it. > > > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige > > Sedona, AZ, USA > > > > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Shashi Shekhar, > > > > > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I > > > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and with > > > humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer who > > > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent > > > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without checking > > > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go > > > wrong). > > > > > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > .HARE RAM. > > > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee, > > > > Saadar Charan > > > Sparsha! > > > > > > > > He is my second Guru > > > in astrology but like Aacharya > > > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him before > > > while i am resident > > > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves > > > knowledge so a have some > > > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to keep > > > before him.I hope kind > > > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the > > > reason according to > > > > Vrishabh Lagana. > > > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we > > > predict that this native had a > > > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own house. > > > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the 8th > > > lord sitted in own house, > > > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft, 7th > > > lord is in own sign. > > > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger brother? > > > Karak of 3rd house > > > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same > > > house is sitted with Lagan > > > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak > > > nor the lord of 3rd house > > > > Moon was running at the time of incident. > > > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to Sh. > > > Rao jee through you if > > > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive me. > > > > > > > > With Due Regards > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > Mobile-09818310075 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaartik Gor wrote: > > > > Om Sai Ram > > > > > > > > KN RAO Sir is a legend and his silence did say a lot to people who > > > know him. > > > > > > > > Like always he shows the way to everyone. > > > > > > > > God bless him !!! > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > KG > > > > > > > > Vishal Bhatia wrote: > > > > Pramod Mahajan > > > > > > > > > > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 22 April, a Saturday, when I was going to the Bharatiya Vidya > > > Bhawan, I got from R.S. Pawar, the co author of the book on > > > Dwadashottari Dasha, the horoscope of Pramod Mahajan along with the > > > degrees dictated to me while we were in a car. Presuming it to be > > > correct, it was put on the board in the class which has two doctors > > > also. I told the class that I saw it as a hopeless case if the > > > horoscope was correct. One male doctor said that there existed some > > > hope because the lungs and heart were not affected while a lady > > > doctor said that it was difficult case. > > > > > > > > Back home, I was bombarded with different horoscopes, most of them > > > preferring Mithuna lagna, while one went on to even Simha lagna with > > > the date of birth being different, 27 October 1948. The date 27 > > > October was given to me by a Maharastrian woman living in Calcutta > > > who said that it was got from an astrologer of Maharastra who had > > > this horoscope in his possession and had made predictions for the > > > Mahajan family on this horoscope.That astrologer predicted recovery > > > after April. So it was a case of confusion worse confounded. > > > > > > > > In different television programmes most of them showed Mithuna > > > lagna and said that if he survived 27 and 28 of April , Mahajan would > > > survive. Another astrologer using the same data but Vrischika lagna > > > also said that if, Pramod Mahajan survived the last few days of > > > April, he would survive and become the most important leader of the > > > BJP. > > > > > > > > Then on different websites almost everyone seemed to prefer Mithuna > > > lagna and all of them repeated the same prediction of it being fatal > > > in the last days of April and survival later, even a much greater > > > future than he had had so far. > > > > During the days the Pramod Mahajan tragedy was being discussed in > > > the media, particularly by the television media, I received the > > > following email from Switzerland and see my reply. > > > > ==================================== > > > > "Vijayadas,Pradeep Kumar" > > > > > > > > > > > > "knrao" > > > > Pramod Mahajan > > > > Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:42:58 IST > > > > Dear K.N.Raoji > > > > Is it about Moon a Maraka transiting 12th from/on to lagna during > > > the said 2 days.In natal chart Moon is with lagna lord and aspected > > > by saturn in transit.(Is saturn 22nd drekkana lord) Another maraka > > > jupiter is also aspecting lagna from transit position. > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > knrao Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44 > > > > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar > > > > Re: Pramod Mahajan > > > > Pradeep, > > > > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with the > > > following details seem to be reliable: > > > > 30 Oct 948 / 19/51 /Mahboobnagar > > > > Lagna Vrisha 17/39 > > > > Moon in Kanya 21/35 > > > > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April he can > > > drag on for four months at most if this horoscope is correct. > > > > K.N.Rao > > > > > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 Vijayadas,Pradeep > > > > Kumar wrote : > > > > Dear K.N.Raoji > > > > Do you have the horoscope of shri Pramod Mahajan. > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > At no stage I saw any chances of the survival of Mahajan on the > > > basis of the horoscope I had before me. I had no reason to doubt it > > > as some of the events of his life are verifiable from this horoscope > > > including his educational pattern. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was aware that as many as five horoscopes were in circulation and > > > some television channels desperate to be the "first" to cover it from > > > all angles , including the strological > > > > analysis, approached many astrologers. I was approached by some > > > channels but I refused to appear in any television show . I did not > > > want to cause any pain to the family of Pramod Mahajan which had been > > > in deep agony during all these days. In fact, while a Hindi > > > television channel showed a woman anchor talk aggressively of it > > > being very fatal when water from the kidneys of Mahajan was being > > > removed on 27 April, an English channel showed in a rather cultured > > > way a correspondent saying that a request had been received from the > > > family of Mahajan not to overplay it as fatal. It was clear from this > > > that India's private television channels will never learn to be > > > cultured. > > > > > > > > There is so much awkardness and delicacy in discussing openly the > > > impending death of someone in glaring news. It is not the first time > > > that many astrologers have claimed that they have got the horoscopes > > > from most reliable "family sources". Majority of them stuck to > > > Mithuna lagna and predicted recovery. > > > > > > > > But what a student passed on to me with Vrisha lagna appealed to me > > > as correct and I privately predicted to friends that it was not a > > > case of recovery and, at most, it could drag on only for a week or > > > fortnight. I saw no chance of recovery at all. It is what I had > > > written to Pradeep on 24 April. > > > > > > > > I am surprised at astrologers who cannot see the rise of Mahajan in > > > the dasha of Saturn the tenth lord from Vrisha lagna. Why are they > > > sticking to Mithuna and predicting recovery? > > > > > > > > See for instance the period of his rise. In Chara dasha it would be > > > the dasha of Vrischika with an excellent eleventh house containing > > > the Amatyakaraka and period of his amassing wealth also. In Vrischika- > > > Meena- Karka in 1996 with Mars aspecting the tenth house he was even > > > Defence Minister for a brief period during the ill fated 13 days > > > government of Atal Behari Vajpai. > > > > > > > > From Tula Kumbha 3 July 2003 with Amatyakaraka falling in the > > > eighth house he failed with his India Shining slogan and the NDA > > > government and BJP fell from power. TV predictions of some > > > astrologers Almost all astrologers said that the transit of Moon in > > > Mesha could be fatal but all of them added that if he survived that, > > > he would recover. > > > > > > > > With so many combinations for fatality present even from Mithuna > > > lagna, how was Mahajan's survival seen ? > > > > > > > > From Vrisha lagna, the inevitable was visible more easily. I had a > > > different view it will be Saturn- Rahu-Mercury which was rather bad. > > > But to say, that he would recover after that appeared impossible to > > > me. And ofcourse Moon in Mesha is a signal of danger. And later Moon > > > in Mithuna would be equally dangerous as it would aspect the > > > Karakamsha and also the pada of the eighth lord together with Mars. > > > > > > > > The period that would continue after will not be less fatal. There > > > was no chance of a recovery at all. It was prudent to avoid > > > television channels and discuss the available horoscope of Mahajan > > > quietly in our astrological circles, I decided. > > > > > > > > As in the case of news in general so too in the case of Mahajan, > > > balanced news coverage > > > > was available only in the Doordarshan which is government > > > controlled and has a tradition of dignity, news sense presented by > > > mature and experience journalists. > > > > > > > > > > > > ASTROLOGICAL ANALYSIS > > > > The analysis we had arrived at was the following. > > > > > > > > Vimshottari dasha > > > > In Vimshottari dasha it is Saturn-Rahu-Mercury from 6 January 2006 > > > to 3 June 2006 and Mercury here is the second lord and maraka. > > > > > > > > Chara dasha > > > > The picture is clearer in Jaimini's Chara Dasha in which it is > > > Kanya which contains both the Atmakaraka and the Karakamsha. The > > > antardasha is Mesha from 31 May 2005 to 31 May 2006. This is eighth > > > from Karakamsha and fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > In Sthira dasha > > > > The picture is equally depressing in Jaimini Sthira dasha.. It is > > > Mesha Mesha upto 5 May 2006. So no hope can he held out. May 5 is > > > like a distant date now.This is eighth from Karakamsha and fatal . > > > Mesha is eighth from Karakamsha and Atmakaraka and from here, > > > Bhartikaraka, Mars is in the eighth house showing the brother being > > > in trouble. Mesha antardasha is aspected by Mars and Saturn showing > > > the violent incident. > > > > > > > > The transit of the day > > > > Both the lagna lord Venus and Moon are in Kanya on which Ketu has > > > been transitting and now Saturn from Karka and Mars from Mithuna are > > > aspecting it showing the dangerous event clearly. The fifth house > > > from Vrisha represents the stomach region, as a student pointed out. > > > > > > > > Tajak > > > > A colleague in the Institute of Astrology, Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan, > > > Sri Saxena, worked on the Tajak of Pramod Mahajan and told me that > > > the conclusion I had come to, of it being the end of everything for > > > Mahajan, was confirmed through the annual horoscope also. Here Mars > > > in the fifth house aspecting Saturn in the eighth is ominous enough > > > and Saturn is the third lord also. Here Muntha is in the second house > > > aspected by Saturn and the lord of Muntha, Saturn is in the eighth > > > house aspected by Mars. The fatal picture drawn from Vimshottari and > > > Jaimini's Chara dasha is corroborated. > > > > > > > > Bhrigu approach > > > > As I was writing this, S. S.dropped in and I asked him to give a > > > Bhrigu analysis presuming the data to be accurate. SS has been doing > > > some remarkable researches in Bhrigu and wants to remain anynymous > > > for some personal reasons. He did it and said that nothing was good > > > and there was no hope. > > > > > > > > I decided to post this piece in the first week of May, as in Sthira > > > dasha, the fatal period is upto 5 May. > > > > > > > > NOTE > > > > I had told a BJP leader of middle level about a political > > > assassination a week before the tragedy of Mahajan and I will > > > disclose it later. > > > > (Written in parts between 25 April and 2 May 2006) > > > > > > > > > > > > THE PREDICTION OF THE ASSASSINATION OF A POLITICAL LEADER > > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > > > The horoscope of BJP must reflect and it is here that I must tell > > > readers that I had made a prediction that there would be the > > > assassination of a leader soon. These are very confidential > > > predictions and so sensitive that I do not want anyone other than the > > > person to whom I tell it, to even get an inkling of it. > > > > See the letter below: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > Prof K.N.Rao. > > > > FEROZE VARUN GANDHI > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > I was deeply shocked to hear of the misfortune that had befallen > > > Pramodji. I remembered the prediction made to me a week earlier that > > > a major assassination of a political leader would take place soon. I > > > have been thinking about your prediction and several others made by > > > you over the last year. The accuracy of them continues to astound me. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > Varun > > > > 27/4/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > Subsequent to this, I received many phones from many people asking > > > me what was my prediction about Pramod Mahajan. I told them that I > > > had no doubt that the horoscope I was using in his case was correct > > > and on this basis I would not even give one percent chance to Mahajan > > > for survival. This prediction of mine did not seem to be in line with > > > the periodical medical bulletins someone told me. Astrologers were > > > optimistic of his prediction if he survived April but I was not at > > > any stage. > > > > The immediate fatal date after 27/28 April would be before 5 May I > > > told them. I have discussed the basis for this in the main body of > > > the article. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC > > > and save big. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message 10 "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro Fri May 12, 2006 11:20am(PDT) Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on Pramod Mahajan/Doubts ..HARE RAM. Dear Jyoti, Thanks for your compliments.In fact Respected Sh.K N Rao Jee is the living legend and our pride truly.He represents India in the world regarding vedic astrology undoubtedly. Why had i placed my doubts before him? so that we may improve our knowledge as much as we can under the guidance of such the learned person.In fact we are really lucky that such the esteemed personality is among us.God may live him long. With all the best wishes Shashi Shekhar Sharma jyothi_b_lakshmi wrote: Hi Shashi Shekhar, Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and with humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer who made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without checking it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go wrong). I hope somebody will clarify your doubts. Regards, Jyothi vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma wrote: > > .HARE RAM. > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee, > Saadar Charan Sparsha! > > He is my second Guru in astrology but like Aacharya > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him before while i am resident > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves knowledge so a have some > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to keep before him.I hope kind > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the reason according to > Vrishabh Lagana. > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we predict that this native had a > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own house. > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the 8th lord sitted in own house, > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft, 7th lord is in own sign. > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger brother? Karak of 3rd house > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same house is sitted with Lagan > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak nor the lord of 3rd house > Moon was running at the time of incident. > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to Sh. Rao jee through you if > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive me. > > With Due Regards > Shashi Shekhar Sharma Mobile-09818310075 > > > > Kaartik Gor wrote: > Om Sai Ram > > KN RAO Sir is a legend and his silence did say a lot to people who know him. > > Like always he shows the way to everyone. > > God bless him !!! > > regards, > > KG > > Vishal Bhatia wrote: > Pramod Mahajan > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > On 22 April, a Saturday, when I was going to the Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan, I got from R.S. Pawar, the co author of the book on Dwadashottari Dasha, the horoscope of Pramod Mahajan along with the degrees dictated to me while we were in a car. Presuming it to be correct, it was put on the board in the class which has two doctors also. I told the class that I saw it as a hopeless case if the horoscope was correct. One male doctor said that there existed some hope because the lungs and heart were not affected while a lady doctor said that it was difficult case. > > Back home, I was bombarded with different horoscopes, most of them preferring Mithuna lagna, while one went on to even Simha lagna with the date of birth being different, 27 October 1948. The date 27 October was given to me by a Maharastrian woman living in Calcutta who said that it was got from an astrologer of Maharastra who had this horoscope in his possession and had made predictions for the Mahajan family on this horoscope.That astrologer predicted recovery after April. So it was a case of confusion worse confounded. > > In different television programmes most of them showed Mithuna lagna and said that if he survived 27 and 28 of April , Mahajan would survive. Another astrologer using the same data but Vrischika lagna also said that if, Pramod Mahajan survived the last few days of April, he would survive and become the most important leader of the BJP. > > Then on different websites almost everyone seemed to prefer Mithuna lagna and all of them repeated the same prediction of it being fatal in the last days of April and survival later, even a much greater future than he had had so far. > During the days the Pramod Mahajan tragedy was being discussed in the media, particularly by the television media, I received the following email from Switzerland and see my reply. > ==================================== > "Vijayadas,Pradeep Kumar" > > > "knrao" > Pramod Mahajan > Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:42:58 IST > Dear K.N.Raoji > Is it about Moon a Maraka transiting 12th from/on to lagna during the said 2 days.In natal chart Moon is with lagna lord and aspected by saturn in transit.(Is saturn 22nd drekkana lord) Another maraka jupiter is also aspecting lagna from transit position. > Respect > Pradeep > > knrao Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44 > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar > Re: Pramod Mahajan > Pradeep, > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with the following details seem to be reliable: > 30 Oct 948 / 19/51 /Mahboobnagar > Lagna Vrisha 17/39 > Moon in Kanya 21/35 > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April he can drag on for four months at most if this horoscope is correct. > K.N.Rao > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 Vijayadas,Pradeep > Kumar wrote : > Dear K.N.Raoji > Do you have the horoscope of shri Pramod Mahajan. > Respect > Pradeep > > > At no stage I saw any chances of the survival of Mahajan on the basis of the horoscope I had before me. I had no reason to doubt it as some of the events of his life are verifiable from this horoscope including his educational pattern. > > > > > I was aware that as many as five horoscopes were in circulation and some television channels desperate to be the "first" to cover it from all angles , including the strological > analysis, approached many astrologers. I was approached by some channels but I refused to appear in any television show . I did not want to cause any pain to the family of Pramod Mahajan which had been in deep agony during all these days. In fact, while a Hindi television channel showed a woman anchor talk aggressively of it being very fatal when water from the kidneys of Mahajan was being removed on 27 April, an English channel showed in a rather cultured way a correspondent saying that a request had been received from the family of Mahajan not to overplay it as fatal. It was clear from this that India's private television channels will never learn to be cultured. > > There is so much awkardness and delicacy in discussing openly the impending death of someone in glaring news. It is not the first time that many astrologers have claimed that they have got the horoscopes from most reliable "family sources". Majority of them stuck to Mithuna lagna and predicted recovery. > > But what a student passed on to me with Vrisha lagna appealed to me as correct and I privately predicted to friends that it was not a case of recovery and, at most, it could drag on only for a week or fortnight. I saw no chance of recovery at all. It is what I had written to Pradeep on 24 April. > > I am surprised at astrologers who cannot see the rise of Mahajan in the dasha of Saturn the tenth lord from Vrisha lagna. Why are they sticking to Mithuna and predicting recovery? > > See for instance the period of his rise. In Chara dasha it would be the dasha of Vrischika with an excellent eleventh house containing the Amatyakaraka and period of his amassing wealth also. In Vrischika- Meena- Karka in 1996 with Mars aspecting the tenth house he was even Defence Minister for a brief period during the ill fated 13 days government of Atal Behari Vajpai. > > From Tula Kumbha 3 July 2003 with Amatyakaraka falling in the eighth house he failed with his India Shining slogan and the NDA government and BJP fell from power. TV predictions of some astrologers Almost all astrologers said that the transit of Moon in Mesha could be fatal but all of them added that if he survived that, he would recover. > > With so many combinations for fatality present even from Mithuna lagna, how was Mahajan's survival seen ? > > From Vrisha lagna, the inevitable was visible more easily. I had a different view it will be Saturn- Rahu-Mercury which was rather bad. But to say, that he would recover after that appeared impossible to me. And ofcourse Moon in Mesha is a signal of danger. And later Moon in Mithuna would be equally dangerous as it would aspect the Karakamsha and also the pada of the eighth lord together with Mars. > > The period that would continue after will not be less fatal. There was no chance of a recovery at all. It was prudent to avoid television channels and discuss the available horoscope of Mahajan quietly in our astrological circles, I decided. > > As in the case of news in general so too in the case of Mahajan, balanced news coverage > was available only in the Doordarshan which is government controlled and has a tradition of dignity, news sense presented by mature and experience journalists. > > > ASTROLOGICAL ANALYSIS > The analysis we had arrived at was the following. > > Vimshottari dasha > In Vimshottari dasha it is Saturn-Rahu-Mercury from 6 January 2006 to 3 June 2006 and Mercury here is the second lord and maraka. > > Chara dasha > The picture is clearer in Jaimini's Chara Dasha in which it is Kanya which contains both the Atmakaraka and the Karakamsha. The antardasha is Mesha from 31 May 2005 to 31 May 2006. This is eighth from Karakamsha and fatal. > > > In Sthira dasha > The picture is equally depressing in Jaimini Sthira dasha.. It is Mesha Mesha upto 5 May 2006. So no hope can he held out. May 5 is like a distant date now.This is eighth from Karakamsha and fatal . Mesha is eighth from Karakamsha and Atmakaraka and from here, Bhartikaraka, Mars is in the eighth house showing the brother being in trouble. Mesha antardasha is aspected by Mars and Saturn showing the violent incident. > > The transit of the day > Both the lagna lord Venus and Moon are in Kanya on which Ketu has been transitting and now Saturn from Karka and Mars from Mithuna are aspecting it showing the dangerous event clearly. The fifth house from Vrisha represents the stomach region, as a student pointed out. > > Tajak > A colleague in the Institute of Astrology, Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan, Sri Saxena, worked on the Tajak of Pramod Mahajan and told me that the conclusion I had come to, of it being the end of everything for Mahajan, was confirmed through the annual horoscope also. Here Mars in the fifth house aspecting Saturn in the eighth is ominous enough and Saturn is the third lord also. Here Muntha is in the second house aspected by Saturn and the lord of Muntha, Saturn is in the eighth house aspected by Mars. The fatal picture drawn from Vimshottari and Jaimini's Chara dasha is corroborated. > > Bhrigu approach > As I was writing this, S. S.dropped in and I asked him to give a Bhrigu analysis presuming the data to be accurate. SS has been doing some remarkable researches in Bhrigu and wants to remain anynymous for some personal reasons. He did it and said that nothing was good and there was no hope. > > I decided to post this piece in the first week of May, as in Sthira dasha, the fatal period is upto 5 May. > > NOTE > I had told a BJP leader of middle level about a political assassination a week before the tragedy of Mahajan and I will disclose it later. > (Written in parts between 25 April and 2 May 2006) > > > THE PREDICTION OF THE ASSASSINATION OF A POLITICAL LEADER > K.N.Rao. > > The horoscope of BJP must reflect and it is here that I must tell readers that I had made a prediction that there would be the assassination of a leader soon. These are very confidential predictions and so sensitive that I do not want anyone other than the person to whom I tell it, to even get an inkling of it. > See the letter below: > > > > To > Prof K.N.Rao. > FEROZE VARUN GANDHI > Dear Guruji, > I was deeply shocked to hear of the misfortune that had befallen Pramodji. I remembered the prediction made to me a week earlier that a major assassination of a political leader would take place soon. I have been thinking about your prediction and several others made by you over the last year. The accuracy of them continues to astound me. > Yours sincerely, > Varun > 27/4/2006 > > > Subsequent to this, I received many phones from many people asking me what was my prediction about Pramod Mahajan. I told them that I had no doubt that the horoscope I was using in his case was correct and on this basis I would not even give one percent chance to Mahajan for survival. This prediction of mine did not seem to be in line with the periodical medical bulletins someone told me. Astrologers were optimistic of his prediction if he survived April but I was not at any stage. > The immediate fatal date after 27/28 April would be before 5 May I told them. 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Call regular phones from your PC and save big. > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on FareChase ______________________ ______________________ Message 11 "anstri" anstri77 Fri May 12, 2006 11:21am(PDT) Future Path Dear Guruji, This is Anshuman Tripathy and I am presently doing my PhD (would be completing 3rd year) at a premier insitute of the country. I am finding it very difficult to concentrate on my studies any more. At the same time I am going over to Spain in September 2006 for 4 months in an exchange program. Another problem that is troubling me at present is the partition of my grandfather's property amongst my Father, Uncles and Aunties. I am also undecided as to what am I going to do after completion of my PhD. Should I go for a job (which means leaving my family back in Orissa) or settling for a not so bright career path in the home state. Please spare some time to suggest me as to what is the future path like. My Details Date of Birth - 16th of January 1977 Place of Birth - Kolkata (Calcutta) - India Time of Birth - 18.22 (6.22 p.m.) Hope this details would suffice for you. Waiting eagerly for the reply. with regards Anshuman Tripathy Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. ______________________ ______________________ Message 12 "r_m_sharma" ram.dishant Fri May 12, 2006 11:21am(PDT) Re: ketu's sub period thanks a lot, when native can expect a change in residence or a promotion in organisation.Is there any chance of foriegn visit in near future. RMS vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma wrote: > > .HARE RAM. > Dear RMS, > Please remember Ketu period either in Mahadasa or Anter dasa never > gives better results.Ok Jupiter is aspecting towards it but how can we > overlook Mahadasanath Budh that is not really beneficial for you.So do > Lord Ganesh Pooja on wednesday and do start giving Roti to Dog on > each Saturday when Ketu Mahadasa will be started. > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma Mobile- 09818310075 > > r_m_sharma wrote: > List > DOB 20-06-1964 > TOB 1755 > POB Nasirabad(Rajasthan) > For this native ketu sub-period will start in aug 2006. Will this time > good for native as ketu is placed in 2H whose lord Ju is placed in 6th > house. > RMS > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > Links > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message 13 "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro Fri May 12, 2006 11:26am(PDT) Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! ..HARE RAM. Sh.Tatvam Asi jee, I am sorry but it is baseless and fake that Sh.Rao jee had approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did he say that day? It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of said day.Plz try to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person has Mrityu Yog these days" but he never said about time and date surely and he opposed strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one (learned person) must give their predictions regarding earthquake or other natural calamities but also all the astrologers should make a forum separately for the same purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the country. Please do not take it otherwise.One should always do true criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree with me.Please do forgive me if you find some mistake. With Regards Shashi Shekhar Sharma Tatvam-Asi wrote: Dear Arjun Ji, Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions? A bit curious. K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing the astrologer's chart. And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and may die at predicted time. Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no answer to this question. Tatvam-Asi By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity seeker IMHO. panditarjun2004 wrote: dear tatvam ji since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on this self- death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him. but one thing is certain that this astrologer who predicted his own death with exact date and time was giving self publicity, so much so that some local newspapers mentioned his village got several curious tourists and he had several customers waiting in line for getting their charts read (all for knowing their death date?). several TV channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-death predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity. in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made by any astrologer either for others or for self. if the astrologer finds a chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and cannot predict with certainty that the native will die. this is against the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts death and then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma. once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers and fake tantriks alike for predicting every native the following things: 1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu, ketu and saturn. 2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad. 3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth is hindered or someone has done blackmagic on you. 4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i will do these poojas for you. also these days, it has become a fashion for every panchanga karta and every astrologer to predict general things for the country like: 1. the country would lose a great leader (there are hundreds of ex prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year) 2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern states 3. heat waves prevails across the country 4. air accidents would claim lives. 5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds drowned. 6. earthquakes rock the country 7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman claims himself as kalki avataar) 8. country prospers in the field of technology. any blind man can guess that these predictions happen every year without saying. my humble submission to all such astrologers is that stop giving general predictions and give specific predictions to individuals who are approaching the group. such predictions are useless if they are not going to help the native. as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer shall predict a chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which shall be displayed by all matured astrologers. till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees and thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake or tsunami. they all come to donate blankets or food packets only after the incident. not a single astrologer could predict earthquake or tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised predictions only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a person predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st to 15th of a month, it is of no use even if it occurrs. all the great sages who used to predict with their divya drishti (not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting any negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is only to help the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID SO". with best wishes pandit arjun vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi wrote: > > Dear Mr. Sreeram, > > what do you mean by cryptic clues? > > I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a village astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I think) and Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after seeing his chart that he will die. > The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV Channel wasted a whole day cov ering this non event. > THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS TOPIC IN VEDIC ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME. > > Does Mr. Rao has answer for this? > > Tatvam-Asi > > sreeram srinivas wrote: > It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya vidya Bhawan seminar > Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction about Mr. Pramod > Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic clues to his analysis > on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to join a discussion in > trying to explain his logics in detail for public consumption. The > students need to raise to a level through their own research & knowledge > application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to current status > through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to his sharing of > knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in this vedic sciences, > further some of them even practise it for their daily sustenance. > > with regards, > sreeram srinivas > sreeram64 > > _____ > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmi > Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on Pramod > Mahajan/Doubts > > > Hi Shashi Shekhar, > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and with > humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer who > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without checking > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go > wrong). > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts. > > > Regards, > Jyothi > > > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma > wrote: > > > > .HARE RAM. > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee, > > Saadar Charan > Sparsha! > > > > He is my second Guru > in astrology but like Aacharya > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him before > while i am resident > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves > knowledge so a have some > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to keep > before him.I hope kind > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the > reason according to > > Vrishabh Lagana. > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we > predict that this native had a > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own house. > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the 8th > lord sitted in own house, > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft, 7th > lord is in own sign. > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger brother? > Karak of 3rd house > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same > house is sitted with Lagan > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak > nor the lord of 3rd house > > Moon was running at the time of incident. > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to Sh. > Rao jee through you if > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive me. > > > > With Due Regards > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > Mobile-09818310075 > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on FareChase ______________________ ______________________ Message 14 "nutan2510" nutan2510 Fri May 12, 2006 11:40am(PDT) curse To all Gurus, In my chart I have Leo lagna with juiter in the third house with mars, Venus in the 11th house with rahu, Moon AK with saturn in the second house and Sun and mercury in the 12th house. That means I have curse of Brahmin and curse of Venus and Kal surpe Dosha. So what remedy should I do primarily. I would greatly appreciate the reply. Nutan ______________________ ______________________ Message 15 "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego Fri May 12, 2006 11:52am(PDT) Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! you keep on jumping from this to to that group and post my postings there. I already replied to you on jr group. shashi shekhar sharma wrote: ..HARE RAM. Sh.Tatvam Asi jee, I am sorry but it is baseless and fake that Sh.Rao jee had approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did he say that day? It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of said day.Plz try to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person has Mrityu Yog these days" but he never said about time and date surely and he opposed strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one (learned person) must give their predictions regarding earthquake or other natural calamities but also all the astrologers should make a forum separately for the same purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the country. Please do not take it otherwise.One should always do true criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree with me.Please do forgive me if you find some mistake. With Regards Shashi Shekhar Sharma Mail goes everywhere you do. 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On 5/12/06, sukanta mahakhuda wrote: > > Jai radheshyam, > > I Sukant a new member to the group. > > My life has been troublesome for last few years.But last March(2006) > was one of the harshest.so now I am very apprehensive of my future. > I was working in an MNC as a computer engineer, but lost my job within > 3.5 months. > But somehow I got to manage to get ajob again. > I want to from you expert that whether I wil be able to continue this > job smoothly or is there any obstacle to it.If so what remedy should I > follow?Please give some suggestion. > > My date of birth: 27 - 06 - 1974 > Time : 10.05 AM > Place of Birth : Sonepur,Orissa > > Thank you > Sukant > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great > rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic > astrology Astrology > horoscope Astrology > software > ------------------------------ > > > > - Visit your group "vedic astrology" > on the web. > > - > vedic astrology > > - Terms of > Service . > > > ------------------------------ > ______________________ ______________________ Message 18 "vijayadas_pradeep" vijayadas_pradeep Fri May 12, 2006 2:09pm(PDT) Why - Navamsha for Spouse Dear Respected members I am posting my understanding on the subject.Kindly verify. Spouse is sometimes termed as PraanaSakhi(beloved companion of Prana).Also Spouse is known as one half of Prana.Shiva and Shakthi and Ardhanareeshwara - any connection?. Now Navamshas represent Navapranas as per Dashadhyayi. Combining own understanding(can be wrong) with authentic words of Thalakkulathu Bhattathiri(Dashadhyayi author) - relationship between Navamsha and Spouse can be linked. Thus studying the navamsha sambandha of a graha on relevant bhavas or Karaka planets,as mentioned in Classics seems to be correct and pretty clear than the contemporary understanding of Navamsha analysis.It is my personal opinion and other learned members can very well disagree. Thanks Pradeep ______________________ ______________________ Message 19 "David Andrews" andrews635 Fri May 12, 2006 8:31pm(PDT) Re: Please help this native --second post ! Dear Avin, You state that this is your second post of the details of birth of your friend. Had you requested the forum with a specific enquiry about your friend you would have got a reply by now. David Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ______________________ ______________________ Message 20 "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego Fri May 12, 2006 8:36pm(PDT) Re: Next CM - TN ? Rahu Centric approach Swearing in time. Friends, Dr. Mu.Ka. Karunanidhi will be sworn in as Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu on Saturday morning at 11 am. Kataka lagna rising with Sani. Moon in Vishakha and dasa natha Guru placed in Swati would make an interesting life for him. Why interesting? Because in R1 position or KL, both Guru and Chandra are in 8th house.Guru being lagnadhipati.There is parivartana between lagna and 8th house lords.I have already predicted that he would not complete his full term as CM due to ill health or other factors. Let us see what fate has in store for him. Tatvam-Asi Tatvam-Asi wrote: Dear Raman ji, I just checked Madam 9 's chart as was discussed in VA forum some time back (I think). She was born on 24 Feb 1948 , at 2.36 pm. Birth place (I am not sure as it is in long/lat.) But I am not concerned about the place. She started Rahu Dasa Shukra Bhukti on 7th March 2006. If I take her R1 KL position chart, Shukra is exalted but in 12th in Kaalanta sign.Is posited in 12th in Vish Mukha. It is fully aspected by Mars, the lagna and 8th lord. This single factor denotes that she will see an end to her present era of rule (temporary) in this election. Prasna taken , shows that her past actions will torment her in form of defeat. She will have to face unexpected dangers, reversals etc . Since sukra is in 12th in Kaalanta, she will be procecuted as well as persecuted during Shukra Bhukti.. May Tamilnadu see better days. Tatvam-Asi Raman Suprajarama wrote: _____ [] On Behalf Of Raman Suprajarama Monday, May 08, 2006 8:15 PM Cc: Vedic Astrology Re: Next CM - TN ? Dear Members, Jayalalitha's birth date I have differs from what is given below. The time of birth is 14.36 hrs. Jayalalitha is under Rahu-Venus-Mars capable for giving her good position Karunanidhi is under Venus-Venus-Sun which is also quite positive. Venus as the 10th lord (for Karunanidhi) is more powerful than Venus in the 10th house (for Jayalalitha). It is going to be an interesting election and Karunadhi might emerge as a winner. We will have to wait and see. Om Tat Sat, Raman Suprajarama _____ [] On Behalf Of Pradeep Sunday, May 07, 2006 9:10 PM Re: Next CM - TN ? I give below the birth details of 1.M Karunanidhi 3rd June 1924 Place---Thanjavuru, Tamilnadu Time--1215 hours 2.J Jayalalitha Place of Birth-Mysore, Karnataka Date---24th February 1948 Time---10:58:00 hours Some take JJ's Lagna to be Taurus. Thank You Regards, Pradeep , "Raman Suprajarama" wrote: > > Dear Members, > > > > Can anyone post the charts of Jayalalitha and Karunanidhi (casted as per > Raman Ayanamsa)? We can have a discussion. > > > > If my memory serves me right, she is Simha rasi and since Sadesathi has > begun, things will not be easy for her. > > > > Om Tat Sat, > > > > Raman Suprajarama > > > > _____ > > [] On > Behalf Of Pradeep > Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:45 AM > vedic astrology; ; sohamsa; ; naastrology; > KNRaoJyotish; ; > Next CM - TN ? > > > > Dear Members, > Who will it be ..... 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Get it on your phone. || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. ______________________ ______________________ Message 21 "vishwraj" vishwraj Fri May 12, 2006 9:00pm(PDT) Free astrology charting software Hello Fortunately, I have just found free software site and the link is given below. It is really very hard to believe that such a beautiful astrology software is made available for free in view of social service. Kudos to the persons who made it happen. http://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh/ vishwraj ______________________ ______________________ Message 22 "kamalrattesar" kamalrattesar Fri May 12, 2006 9:10pm(PDT) twins qu. hi guruji, twins born with the difference of 3 min have same planets position in lagna does they will have different way of life and future? adivese if division charts will give more clearity?. please adise kamal ______________________ ______________________ Message 23 "jyothi_b_lakshmi" jyothi_b_lakshmi Fri May 12, 2006 9:38pm(PDT) Re: Free astrology charting software New joinee to group? :-))) Too innocent!!! vedic astrology, "vishwraj" wrote: > > Hello > Fortunately, I have just found free software site and the link is > given below. It is really very hard to believe that such a beautiful > astrology software is made available for free in view of social > service. Kudos to the persons who made it happen. > > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh/ > > vishwraj > ______________________ ______________________ Message 24 "Prafulla Gang" ripra_solutions Fri May 12, 2006 11:11pm(PDT) use of gemnstone for saturn for leo lagna native Hi I observed for few leo natives (chart details not readily available with me now) using gemstone for saturn, during their saturn mahadasa; and has resulted in good materialistic results. Saturn lord of 6th and 7th for leo lagna - karaka for job in most natives (most people i am talking about are in job); and has eliminated their competition / organisational conflicts with tremendous growth. Out of the samples, few have mars / saturn conjunction; ketu / saturn conjunction and /or venus -saturn conjunction in different houses. How come, blue saphire resulting into good results (being enemy planet of lagna lord sun)? regards / Prafulla ______________________ ______________________ Message 25 "Gail Francisco" gailfrancisco Fri May 12, 2006 11:27pm(PDT) Vyasa-SJC Circle, 14 May 11:00 am, California Om namo bhagavate vasyudevaya Vyasa-SJC Circle, California, USA Jyotish Guru: Freedom Tobias Cole Address: 652, Norvell Street, El' Cerrito, CA 94530, USA Phone: 510-938-1570 14 May, Sunday Time: 11:00 am (you can come at 10 am to discuss questions about your studies) Vyasa study circle in California Bay Area. Topics for discussion: nakshatras vimshottari dasa calculations Bring past handouts Bring Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra if you have it. Recording of the classes will be done for the benefit of future Vyasa-SJC students and other students in USA. Goal: To have 12 students (at least) as expert Jyotishi's by the year 2007 (2 year target) having good knowledge of Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra. All are welcome. There are no charges but students can bring food and drink to share. Expect to spend approximately 4-5 hours in circle. If you can afford to, please bring a donation for photocopying expenses. Carpooling: If you need a ride, email or call me 415.246.1255 to arrange a ride. I live in Santa Cruz and carpool up to El Cerrito. If you are along the way, you can come along! Have a great day. Gail Mobile: 415-246-1255 *tat savitur varenyam* ______________________ ______________________ || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || ------ ------ Warm Regards, Siddharth BhattacharyaManager- Operations & Business DevelopmentEC-Manage INC bsiddharth What makes Sachin India's highest paid sports celebrity?, Share your knowledge on India Answers Send instant messages to your online friends - NOW ______________________ ______________________ Message 18 "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro Mon May 15, 2006 6:31am(PDT) Re: Help somebody .HARE RAM. Dear Kavita, Which is your place of birth? Shashi Shekhar Sharma haizen wrote: Dear Kavita, Here are a few comments on your condition. Health analysis of Rasi Chakra: -Taurus lagna for a focus on the neck region. This can include glandular function related to the Thyroid or some other gland. -Rahu in Libra in the 6H suggests something that may be going on in the intestinal area or with digestion that can have a bearing on your health. -Sun weakened in the 8H can also indicate digestive-related problems that could have a bearing on the general health. Sun is also karaka of the 1H head area and this position of the Sun is one indication of problems there. -Ketu representing inflammations and infections is in Aries, the sign representing the head. Ketu can also represent hard-to-diagnose conditions. *Mars in Taurus as 12L of energy drains, confusion or exhaustion is in close aspect to the degree of your lagna—the primary astrological signature of what you've been going through. Mars represents the adrenal glands, the forehead area, and can also indicate muscular spasms, or health conditions that are the result of an accident or injury—something that might compress the bones in the neck or lock the neck muscles in a way that could block blood flow. With these combined factors it's not surprising you are experiencing problems of disorientation or confusion. Transit Influences: -You are currently under Jupiter dasha, and Jupiter is 8L of chronic health conditions. So for relief we have to look at your current antardasha. According to my calculations, you are now in your Mercury antardasha through the end of 2007 and this is one of your better planets for Taurus lagna. Mercury is 5L of children and 2L of family life, and these are positive indicators for what you desire in these areas. Nevertheless, you still have a chronic condition to deal with so you can get your mental function back again and take advantage of the opportunities within this period, and it looks to me that you still have a ways to go. (More on that in a moment.) In the meantime, you still have a strong Mercury in your natal chart and this suggests that the overall strength of your nervous system is good, but you may be harboring some kind of infection that is hard to diagnose and needs to be cleared up or needs to play itself out. As an astrologer, I sometimes like to take a look at the outer planets too. Though not part of vedic astrology, I find they can offer additional insights into health conditions. Neptune, the planet of disorientation or confusion, is currently transiting your MOON. The Moon is the Mind and Brain, and Neptune represents Confusion. This major transit ends in February of 2008, and it will be a relief when it is over...and this is why I say you may still have a ways to go in getting to the root of your problem and regaining your clarity. But I do feel there are reasons to be hopeful and outlast your condition. Do propitiations for Mars, Jupiter and the Nodes—the four problem-causing planets in your health. It's possible that you're also simply mentally exhausted and your mind needs a long overdue break from the heavy demands of your job. As long as the root cause of your condition is unknown, continue to focus on your overall health and those things that bring you joy, such as reading, higher eduction, or music. Even if you had been healthy, I think you might still have wanted time off to have a child during this period of your life. So your health crisis created that opportunity in another way. Best wishes, Haizen Paige www.haizen.com (private readings are paid services) vedic astrology, "tinkupinkurinku" wrote: > > I have a severe health problem in my head and do not know when it will > be cured. Am taking so many treatments but with no use. I am born on 4 > th January 1976 at 3.36 pm, sunday. > My Lagna is Rishaba and > Chevvai is in Lagna, Saturn in 3 rd house, Rahu in 6 th house, sukran > in 7th house, Sun in 8th and moon and bhudhan in 9th and > guru in 11 th , Ketu in 12th house. > > Can anyone say whether I will get cured? If so when ? I am undergoing > treatments for the past 3 years or so. I have done a lot of pariharams > too. And am still doing. Is there any prospects for a child? If so > when? Also need to know whether I ll settle abroad? If so when? > > Though I think of the future, all my plans are now thrashed down due > to the disease. I have now resigned my job and am simply at home. The > disease doesnt cause any pain but gies me a lot of trouble. Am not > able to concentrate on anything. My life is at stake. I have lost all > hopes of a good life. > Pls answer me. > Thanks in advance... > > Regards, > Kavita... > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. ______________________ ______________________ Message 19 "upaoakcrest" upaoakcrest Mon May 15, 2006 6:31am(PDT) Re: Marriage Timing Hello Maya Greetings After reading your request for help. I put your chart in another astro-group for research purposes (hope you will not mind). Here is the comment on your chart "......If you could ask her if she was in a strong relationship with anyone in 1998-99 which might have continued for sometime. May be there was a strong proposal at that time. There is no father/guru's blessings.(but in navamsa it shows blessings....Jagdish could you please ask her about her moon antra? " Best Wishes Jagdish ______________________ ______________________ Message 20 "Kaartik Gor" astro_gor Mon May 15, 2006 6:32am(PDT) Re: Fire of Reservation --- Say No to Reservation Dear Tarun, Unfortunately in India Majority is in a MINORITY and Minoritism is called Democratic and Majoritism is called COMMUNAL !!! God help India and people like Arjun Singh who in their last days are Killing India !!! Merit should be the ONLY criteria. I hope BJP comes soon. regards, KG Tarun wrote: hello members, In india this congress government is as usual using its statregy to win the elections. All the young people like me do face the problems in getting admission to higher education. there are only limited seats around 20-30 in every college and even in that reservation ...this is hopeless. Belonging to general category is like we committed a crime now. Is it for sure that all the general category people rich ....no...there are 60% government posts occupied by reservation people. I hope many people favour me and will spread their voice to STOP RESERVATION. thanks tarun Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. ______________________ ______________________ Message 21 "vijayadas_pradeep" vijayadas_pradeep Mon May 15, 2006 6:35am(PDT) Re: Why - Navamsha for Spouse - Ranjan ji Dear Ranjan ji Sorry about the delayed reply.As you have rightly mentioned, there can be many interpretations from the Navamshas of planets.But ofcourse we are yet to fully understand them.Dharma Patni can also be a valid point as number 9,is pertaining to Dharma.Through Shradha(attention),resulting in dharma,one can attain success.Thus among various vargas attained by a planet,navamsha is very very important, as,it shows the vital condition of, Prana and its influence.If a planet is weak in navamsha,one has to struggle hard for the said Shradha. As 5th pertains to any kind of creation or followers - to have a child through own Bija - 7 th house is necessary,for Anda samyojana.Similarly for spouse matters ''Classical Examples'' are there, on planets, having navamshas on the seventh BHAVA(Varahamihira).This clearly proves that one of the significances of navamsha is spouse and it is studied in combination with the relevant bhava,viz 7th.This is not my view,but those of Sages. Similarly true Bhava is Aatma/Mana Samyojana.While reading a Gita interpretation, on Saguna Aaradhana,a Swami says - ''when we are worshiping HIM in any Bhava(Vigraha) .....'' - Please see Vigraha in bracket for Bhava.While thinking more about this,the common usage ''Moorthimath Bhava'' struck me.It means culmination of any Bhava is Moorthi or Vigraha.Thus i feel Father ,Mother ,Guru etc are Moorthis of our own Bhava when percieved through incomplete understanding.Similarly Adhi-Bhootham,Adhi-Daivam etc are the Moorthis or culmination of that desire,which had arisen from the INITIAL Singular state(non state).The divine path(Kula margam?) is returning to that initial(Nirguna).For the perception of any thought, SPACE is needed.The distance from ''NO THOUGHT'' to the relams of THOUGHT is ''TIME'',is my humble opinion. Upasana -is a divine Bhava.It is sitting near.Near to whom?Through Guru we are trying to sit next to HIM -again reduction of DISTANCE.Through Upasan''amsha'' we are studying the abilities of various planets for UPASANA.Please read divisional dignities(paraijata,simhasana) of 9th lord by Parashara and share your valuable thoughts.Upasanamsha can then be clearly understood.This will make clear how Bhavas and Amshas are to be combined.Logic is not about explaining the already evident/seen,rather understanding of the unseen, with the help of seen.Counting Bhavas everywhere,is the easiest conclusion.Whether Jyotish demands more Time/Tapas and Upasana have to be carefully considered, by learned souls.Why we cannot find even a single reference reagarding such,amongst thousands and thousands of shlokas,are also to be looked upon, by all sincere seekers of knowledge. I may be inadvertently hurting the feelings of some,but such is never the intention,and kindly forgive.It is just a humble attempt towards TRUTH.If i am wrong,more learned can lead me towards light. Regarding Brahmacharis and their success ''without'' woman -I feel they are great souls who have understood the 'Woman' within as compared to common souls like me looking for one outside:-). Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, "crystal pages" wrote: > > Vijaydas ji, > > I have always found it very interesting that navamsha has been > recommended as the chart that talks about marriage and spouse while > saptamamsha represents the children. > > There is a certain (though not perfect) correlation/association > between some of the harmonic slices that vargas represent and > sometimes interpreted so and the order of houses: > Rashi (divided by 1, the primary or central frequency sonically > speaking) the first house > Hora (sign divided by 2) 2nd house (wealth etc) > Drekkana/Dreshkana/Dreshkona (divisor is 3) 3rd house - siblings > Turyamsha - sukh, 4th harmonic > The comes the first tangent! > Saptamamsha (7th but represents children -- 5th house) > Navamsha (9th harmonic but represents 7th and not 9th house) > Dashamsha (10th - house and harmonic and profession) and the rail > gets back on the patari. > > Now if we go around the zodiac again, some of the remaining fit, > others don't within this scheme! > > But why is saptamamsha representing the children/5th house and > navamsha the 7th house? > > I think it was Narasimha who at one time, years ago connected the > concept of navamsha representing the Dharmapatni. It clicked > conceptually and dare I say -- intuitively. Have I tested this in > many charts (my own question to others, generally that gets me in > deep hot waters!). NO! I have not. But the happily married few that I > have known and met do confirm in words and actions that there is > always a great woman behind a great man! What would yang be without > the right YIN? What or where would a Concorde jet be without the > right fuel! The fuel burns away but we just look at the Concorde in > awe! > > Now there are some brahmacharis who have reached great heights but > has there been a Great Woman behind their success too? A mother > sometimes, a sister at other times? Research questions! > > And how did the navamsha explain that link? Or did it? > > So, is navamsha not about just patni, though in most cases it might > be so. Maybe it is just about our dharmic acts or as astro- > accountants might want to call it -- about our DHARMIC ledger! > Another research and exploration question. Would be interesting to > examine if the dharmic influence deciphered through navamsha always > manifests in this worldly reality as someone from the other gender, > nature of relationships notwithstanding? > > And I also sense your other question within the question. Is navamsha > a chart or just a point of power? > > So many complex questions! Hopefully I did not mislead anyone! > > RR > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote: > > > > Dear Respected members > > > > I am posting my understanding on the subject.Kindly verify. > > > > Spouse is sometimes termed as PraanaSakhi(beloved companion of > > Prana).Also Spouse is known as one half of Prana.Shiva and Shakthi > and > > Ardhanareeshwara - any connection?. > > > > Now Navamshas represent Navapranas as per Dashadhyayi. > > > > Combining own understanding(can be wrong) with authentic words of > > Thalakkulathu Bhattathiri(Dashadhyayi author) - relationship between > > Navamsha and Spouse can be linked. > > > > Thus studying the navamsha sambandha of a graha on relevant bhavas > or > > Karaka planets,as mentioned in Classics seems to be correct and > pretty > > clear than the contemporary understanding of Navamsha analysis.It > is my > > personal opinion and other learned members can very well disagree. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message 22 "vijayadas_pradeep" vijayadas_pradeep Mon May 15, 2006 6:37am(PDT) Parashara on 9th house Dear respected members Parashara says. ''If the 9th lord is in Parijatamsa, the native will visit holy places,if in Uttamamsa he had done so in the past births as well, if in Gopuramsa he will perform sacrificial rites, in Simhasanamsa he will be mighty, truthful, be a conquerer of his senses and will concentrate only on the Supreme Spirit giving up all religions, if in Paaravatamsa he will be the greatest of ascetics, if in Devalokamsa he will be an ascetic holding a cudgel or a religious mendicant that has renounced all mundane attachments and carrying three long staves tied together in his right hand, and if in Brahmalokamsa he will perform Aswamedha yaga (Hourse Sacrifice) and will attain the state of Lord Indra (god of gods). If the 9th lord is in Irvatamsa the person born will be a synonym of Dharma or virtues just as Lord Sri Rama and Yudhistira (the eldest of Pandavas)''. Is it not clear that,9th house is the house to look for Upasana - If Concentrating only on the supreme spirit is not Upasana ,then what is? a)Venus will have kshethra,hora,drekkana .....,upasanamsha,sidhamsha etc....b)Jupiter will have kshethra,hora,drekkana ......,upasanamsha,sidhamsha etc... Similarly one can study 5th house and the relevant amsha(Sidhamsha) for learning.Parashara has given similar paragraph for 5th house. Each divisional sambandha has to be combined with the relevant bhava for understanding the concerned is one among the numerous methods for decoding the amshas.Humble request to all learned members to study and share their valuable thoughts. Thanks Pradeep ______________________ ______________________ Message 23 "sanjayprabhakaran" sanjaychettiar Mon May 15, 2006 8:32am(PDT) Re: Fire of Reservation --- Say No to Reservation || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Friends, This is a forum for Jyotish discussion with wide audience from around the world. So please try to keep the discussion around Jyotish and allied spiritual subjects. To get back to Jyotish, On this let me give and analysis on Jyotish perspective on this, Below is the Chart for swearing in time for the Manmohan Singh Govt. of India. First Some basics, Muhurtha Chart 8th house indicates the weaknesses in the activity. It's preferred to have no graha in 8th. The 9th House in Govt. Forming charts indicates the policies(Dharma/Rules) of the Govt. The Reservation policy in dictated by Saturn. As Saturn indicates the weak in the society, who needs special treatment. The Natal chart of India is Taurus LAgna with Saturn as the 9th and 10th Lord. Hence the Natal chart of india itself indicates that the underpreviledged (Saturn ) will be one of the driving factors for Policy making and Administration. The Same comes up in this Govt.'s Swearing in chart. With Saturn sitting in 9th house being. The First time this Govt. mentioned about reservations was in December 18, 2005 1 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1336539.cms The Compressed Vimshottari was Saturn dasa Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Maha Dasas: Rah: 2003-12-31 (13:56:54) - 2004-10-02 (7:52:27) Jup: 2004-10-02 (7:52:27) - 2005-05-30 (19:06:15) Sat: 2005-05-30 (19:06:15) - 2006-03-15 (4:51:09) Antardasas in this MD: Sat: 2005-05-30 (19:06:15) - 2005-07-17 (1:17:04) Merc: 2005-07-17 (1:17:04) - 2005-08-28 (4:02:57) Ket: 2005-08-28 (4:02:57) - 2005-09-14 (7:24:43) Ven: 2005-09-14 (7:24:43) - 2005-11-01 (10:11:57) Sun: 2005-11-01 (10:11:57) - 2005-11-15 (14:48:00) Moon: 2005-11-15 (14:48:00) - 2005-12-09 (1:59:38) Mars: 2005-12-09 (1:59:38) - 2005-12-25 (10:11:44) Rah: 2005-12-25 (10:11:44) - 2006-02-05 (10:11:16) Jup: 2006-02-05 (10:11:16) - 2006-03-15 (4:51:09) Merc: 2006-03-15 (4:51:09) - 2006-12-01 (19:33:59) Ket: 2006-12-01 (19:33:59) - 2007-03-15 (10:41:40) Ven: 2007-03-15 (10:41:40) - 2008-01-15 (6:25:59) Sun: 2008-01-15 (6:25:59) - 2008-04-14 (0:57:29) Moon: 2008-04-14 (0:57:29) - 2008-09-16 (23:43:47) Mars: 2008-09-16 (23:43:47) - 2008-12-30 (19:08:57) The Mahadasa lord Saturn in 9th house indicates the same. The current dasa is of Mercury. Mercury is in parivartana with Mars!. in natal chart. Mercury is 9th lord and Mars is the 7th Lord. Hence Policy seeming controlled by Mercury is actually determined by Mars!. Which is inimical to Saturn. Hence Saturn determined Policy will not favour well for the current govt. The Exchange in lordships will favour more Mars related policy. Mars favours policy in Defence, Engineering, etc. so the Govt, will show reverse this current policy, Else Voilence Due to mars will surely show up. Warm Regards Sanjay P 5-yr chart May 22, 2004 Time: 17:32:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" New Delhi, India Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Tarana - Jyeshtha Tithi: Sukla Tritiya (Ma) (0.94% left) Vedic Weekday: Saturday (Sa) Nakshatra: Aardra (Ra) (47.22% left) Yoga: Soola (Ju) (63.60% left) Karana: Garija (Ju) (1.88% left) Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Vi) Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Sg) Kaala Lord: Mars (Mahakala: Venus) Sunrise: 5:31:02 Sunset: 19:05:00 Janma Ghatis: 30.0404 Ayanamsa: 23-54-54.71 Sidereal Time: 9:12:36 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 18 Li 01' 37.52" Swat 4 Li Pi Sun - GK 7 Ta 48' 57.79" Krit 4 Ta Pi Moon - PiK 13 Ge 42' 12.20" Ardr 3 Ge Aq Mars - AmK 15 Ge 40' 38.10" Ardr 3 Ge Aq Mercury - PK 13 Ar 27' 32.17" Bhar 1 Ar Le Jupiter - BK 15 Le 27' 12.34" PPha 1 Le Le Venus ® - DK 1 Ge 48' 28.55" Mrig 3 Ge Li Saturn - AK 17 Ge 05' 54.82" Ardr 4 Ge Pi Rahu - MK 16 Ar 14' 27.84" Bhar 1 Ar Le Ketu 16 Li 14' 27.84" Swat 3 Li Aq Maandi 20 Ta 39' 01.96" Rohi 4 Ta Cn Gulika 7 Ta 20' 04.34" Krit 4 Ta Pi Bhava Lagna 7 Sc 34' 36.84" Anu 2 Sc Vi Hora Lagna 7 Ta 49' 09.50" Krit 4 Ta Pi Ghati Lagna 8 Sc 32' 47.50" Anu 2 Sc Vi Vighati Lagna 12 Ta 10' 57.50" Rohi 1 Ta Ar Varnada Lagna 18 Cn 01' 37.52" Aswi 1 Cn Aq Sree Lagna 28 Ar 01' 06.86" Krit 1 Ar Sg Pranapada Lagna 12 Cp 39' 51.12" Srav 1 Cp Ar Indu Lagna 13 Aq 42' 12.20" Sata 3 Aq Aq Dhooma 21 Vi 08' 57.79" Hast 4 Vi Cn Vyatipata 8 Li 51' 02.21" Swat 1 Li Sg Parivesha 8 Ar 51' 02.21" Aswi 3 Ar Ge Indra Chapa 21 Pi 08' 57.79" Reva 2 Pi Cp Upaketu 7 Ar 48' 57.79" Aswi 3 Ar Ge Kaala 6 Cn 32' 43.84" Push 1 Cn Le Mrityu 20 Le 25' 08.48" PPha 3 Le Li Artha Prahara 12 Vi 52' 12.88" Hast 1 Vi Ar Yama Ghantaka 5 Li 10' 12.12" Chit 4 Li Sc Prana Sphuta 7 Aq 28' 11.92" Sata 1 Aq Sg Deha Sphuta 26 Sg 57' 41.93" USha 1 Sg Sg Mrityu Sphuta 29 Cp 09' 28.19" Dhan 2 Cp Vi Sookshma TriSphuta 3 Vi 35' 22.04" UPha 3 Vi Aq TriSphuta 9 Aq 03' 54.06" Sata 1 Aq Sg ChatusSphuta 16 Pi 52' 51.85" Reva 1 Pi Sg PanchaSphuta 3 Ar 07' 19.69" Aswi 1 Ar Ar V2 18 Aq 01' 37.52" Aswi 1 Aq Ta V3 18 Pi 01' 37.52" Aswi 1 Pi Ge V4 18 Aq 01' 37.52" Aswi 1 Aq Vi V5 18 Cn 01' 37.52" Aswi 1 Cn Li V6 18 Li 01' 37.52" Aswi 1 Li Cp V7 18 Cn 01' 37.52" Aswi 1 Cn Aq V8 18 Aq 01' 37.52" Aswi 1 Aq Ta V9 18 Pi 01' 37.52" Aswi 1 Pi Ge V10 18 Aq 01' 37.52" Aswi 1 Aq Vi V11 18 Cn 01' 37.52" Aswi 1 Cn Li V12 18 Li 01' 37.52" Aswi 1 Li Cp Kunda 20 Li 11' 38.80" Visa 1 Li Ar +--------------+ | |Me Ra |Su HL |Mo Ma | | | |Md Gk |VeR Sa | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |AL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------| Rasi |-----------| | | |Ju | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | |GL |As Ke | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Rah Rah 2003-12-31 Jup 2004-02-09 Sat 2004-03-16 Merc 2004-04-28 Ket 2004-06-07 Ven 2004-06-23 Sun 2004-08-09 Moon 2004-08-24 Mars 2004-09-16 Jup Jup 2004-10-02 Sat 2004-11-03 Merc 2004-12-11 Ket 2005-01-13 Ven 2005-01-27 Sun 2005-03-07 Moon 2005-03-19 Mars 2005-04-09 Rah 2005-04-23 Sat Sat 2005-05-30 Merc 2005-07-17 Ket 2005-08-28 Ven 2005-09-14 Sun 2005-11-01 Moon 2005-11-15 Mars 2005-12-09 Rah 2005-12-25 Jup 2006-02-05 Merc Merc 2006-03-15 Ket 2006-04-20 Ven 2006-05-06 Sun 2006-06-19 Moon 2006-07-02 Mars 2006-07-25 Rah 2006-08-09 Jup 2006-09-18 Sat 2006-10-22 Ket Ket 2006-12-01 Ven 2006-12-07 Sun 2006-12-25 Moon 2006-12-30 Mars 2007-01-07 Rah 2007-01-13 Jup 2007-01-29 Sat 2007-02-12 Merc 2007-02-28 Ven Ven 2007-03-15 Sun 2007-05-05 Moon 2007-05-20 Mars 2007-06-15 Rah 2007-07-04 Jup 2007-08-20 Sat 2007-09-30 Merc 2007-11-17 Ket 2007-12-29 Sun Sun 2008-01-15 Moon 2008-01-19 Mars 2008-01-27 Rah 2008-02-01 Jup 2008-02-14 Sat 2008-02-26 Merc 2008-03-11 Ket 2008-03-24 Ven 2008-03-29 Moon Moon 2008-04-14 Mars 2008-04-26 Rah 2008-05-05 Jup 2008-05-29 Sat 2008-06-19 Merc 2008-07-14 Ket 2008-08-05 Ven 2008-08-14 Sun 2008-09-09 Mars Mars 2008-09-16 Rah 2008-09-23 Jup 2008-10-09 Sat 2008-10-23 Merc 2008-11-09 Ket 2008-11-23 Ven 2008-11-29 Sun 2008-12-17 Moon 2008-12-22 vedic astrology, Kaartik Gor wrote: > > Dear Tarun, > > Unfortunately in India Majority is in a MINORITY and Minoritism is called Democratic and Majoritism is called COMMUNAL !!! > > God help India and people like Arjun Singh who in their last days are Killing India !!! > > Merit should be the ONLY criteria. > > I hope BJP comes soon. > > regards, > > KG > > Tarun tarun.virgo wrote: > hello members, > > In india this congress government is as usual using its statregy to win > the elections. > > All the young people like me do face the problems in getting admission > to higher education. there are only limited seats around 20-30 in every > college and even in that reservation ...this is hopeless. > > Belonging to general category is like we committed a crime now. > Is it for sure that all the general category people rich .....no...there > are 60% government posts occupied by reservation people. > > I hope many people favour me and will spread their voice to STOP > RESERVATION. > > thanks > > tarun ______________________ ______________________ Message 24 "Tarun Chopra" occultwizard.tarun Mon May 15, 2006 9:22am(PDT) Re: Abroad employment opportunity check if you have combinatation of tenth lord with your seventh lord and check what dasha you are running is it related to seventh house or ninth house. do write me for your new horoscope at tarun best wishes Tarun Chopra naastrology/ www.occultwizard.com On 5/15/06, samyakmedia wrote: > > Hon'ble Astrologers, > > I have an opportunity to travel abroad for job purpose. > I have been asked by one of the US companies to work for them in > African nation. I know these people through internet for last two years. > Will this opportunity materialise? Is it advisable to go ahead with > this opportunity? > > > Avinash > DOB: 25/08/1973 > Place of Birth: Ausa, Dist. Latur, Maharashtra, India. > Time of Birth: 5.15 PM > > Thanks in advance > > Avinash > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic > astrology Astrology > horoscope Astrology > software > ------------------------------ > > > > - Visit your group "vedic astrology" > on the web. > > - > vedic astrology > > - Terms of > Service . > > > ------------------------------ > -- www.occultwizard.com ______________________ ______________________ Message 25 "kochu" kochu1 Mon May 15, 2006 9:56am(PDT) Re: Abroad employment opportunity will u read my horo? I have no problem in paying. - Tarun Chopra vedic astrology Monday, May 15, 2006 7:18 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Abroad employment opportunity check if you have combinatation of tenth lord with your seventh lord and check what dasha you are running is it related to seventh house or ninth house. do write me for your new horoscope at tarun best wishes Tarun Chopra naastrology/ www.occultwizard.com On 5/15/06, samyakmedia wrote: > > Hon'ble Astrologers, > > I have an opportunity to travel abroad for job purpose. > I have been asked by one of the US companies to work for them in > African nation. I know these people through internet for last two years. > Will this opportunity materialise? Is it advisable to go ahead with > this opportunity? > > > Avinash > DOB: 25/08/1973 > Place of Birth: Ausa, Dist. Latur, Maharashtra, India. > Time of Birth: 5.15 PM > > Thanks in advance > > Avinash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 effect of saturn will be reduced by praying to Lord Anjaneya.Especially if u happend to goto hyd go to skandagiri hanuman is very effective regards/ V.Ravi Quoting pv_subrahmanyam : The > <html><body> <BR> <BR> <BR> Respected Sir<BR> <BR> <BR> I was told I am affected by Saturn being a Virgoan.<BR> My date of birth is 30 th August 1951 / Mid Night/ at Chennai.<BR> <BR> will some one enlightne me on this Saturn effect?<BR> <BR> regards<BR> pv subrahmanyam<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> There are 25 messages in this issue.<BR> <BR> Topics in this digest:<BR> <BR> 1. Fire of Reservation --- Say No to Reservation <BR> "Tarun" tarun.virgo <BR> 2. Re: Chart Interpretation skills <BR> "Jagannathan Kapisthalam" jagannathankr <BR> 3. Re: Bhavishya purana and Varivasya rahasyam <BR> "Jagannathan Kapisthalam" jagannathankr <BR> 4. Re: Marriage Timing <BR> "kishore mohan" kishorepatnaik09 <BR> 5. Re: Fire of Reservation --- Say No to Reservation <BR> "mallika arjunan" smalli007 (AT) (DOT) co.in<BR> 6. Re: Bhavishya purana and Varivasya rahasyam <BR> "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro <BR> 7. Re: Request , please help <BR> "crystal pages" rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca<BR> 8. Fwd: [vedic astrology] Please , get me some upayas <BR> "KAMAL KISHORE Sharma" kishore73_06 (AT) (DOT) co..in<BR> 9. Re: Kendradhipathi Dosha Vs. Maha Purusha Yoga <BR> "crystal pages" rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca<BR> 10. Regarding Buiz <BR> "deep_gem_999" deep_gem_999 <BR> 11. Re: Query <BR> "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro <BR> 12. Re: Kendradhipathi Dosha Vs. Maha Purusha Yoga <BR> "S.C. Kursija" sckursija <BR> 13. Abroad employment opportunity <BR> "samyakmedia" samyakmedia <BR> 14. Help! <BR> "S Rg" srg_in06 <BR> 15. Re: Query <BR> "biswajeet raja" biswajeet_raja (AT) (DOT) co.in<BR> 16. Re: Astrologer(s) Please advice <BR> "sovina76" sovina76 (AT) (DOT) co.in<BR> 17. Re: Digest Number 3960 <BR> "Siddharth" siddharthdelta (AT) (DOT) co.in<BR> 18. Re: Help somebody <BR> "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro <BR> 19. Re: Marriage Timing <BR> "upaoakcrest" upaoakcrest <BR> 20. Re: Fire of Reservation --- Say No to Reservation <BR> "Kaartik Gor" astro_gor <BR> 21. Re: Why - Navamsha for Spouse - Ranjan ji <BR> "vijayadas_pradeep" vijayadas_pradeep <BR> 22. Parashara on 9th house <BR> "vijayadas_pradeep" vijayadas_pradeep <BR> 23. Re: Fire of Reservation --- Say No to Reservation <BR> "sanjayprabhakaran" sanjaychettiar <BR> 24. Re: Abroad employment opportunity <BR> "Tarun Chopra" occultwizard.tarun <BR> 25. Re: Abroad employment opportunity <BR> "kochu" kochu1 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com<BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 1 <BR> "Tarun" tarun.virgo <BR> Mon May 15, 2006 4:58am(PDT) <BR> Fire of Reservation --- Say No to Reservation<BR> <BR> hello members,<BR> <BR> In india this congress government is as usual using its statregy to win <BR> the elections.<BR> <BR> All the young people like me do face the problems in getting admission <BR> to higher education. there are only limited seats around 20-30 in every <BR> college and even in that reservation ...this is hopeless.<BR> <BR> Belonging to general category is like we committed a crime now.<BR> Is it for sure that all the general category people rich ....no...there <BR> are 60% government posts occupied by reservation people.<BR> <BR> I hope many people favour me and will spread their voice to STOP <BR> RESERVATION.<BR> <BR> thanks<BR> <BR> tarun<BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 2 <BR> "Jagannathan Kapisthalam" jagannathankr <BR> Mon May 15, 2006 5:21am(PDT) <BR> Re: Chart Interpretation skills<BR> <BR> Dear Sir,<BR> I am attaching the assumed horoscope for kind reference.<BR> Regarding birth ,the place and surroundings may be predicted.-events which<BR> might have occured at the time of birth.-who was benefitted or who was put<BR> to loss at birth etc.Whether the native was born in the mothers house etc.<BR> <BR> Mars is the nineth house lord both from Janma Lagnam as well as Chandra<BR> Laganam.<BR> So, he stands for temples more so because he is the Karaka for buildings<BR> etc.Mars is seated in Lagnam.The Lagnadhipathy Jupiter is in the Poorva<BR> Janma Punya sthanam.He is exalted.Ketu is the Karaka for temples or<BR> dieties.Jupiter is retrograde towards Ketu.jupiter is the<BR> "native".Therefore there is a temple at the place of birth /residence,of the<BR> native.Jupiter and the Sun are Lagna Lords from Janmalagnam and Chandra<BR> lagnam respectively.By his retrogression Jupiter aspects Sun.from<BR> gemini.therefore there is nexus between the two lords.Jupiter,Sun and Moon<BR> have exchanged signs.?<BR> The Name of the native may be the name of a Hindu Avatar such as SriRama,<BR> SriKrishna, Lord of the seven hills.This is because Ketu is related to<BR> Gods.The name of the father or even grand father may be one such<BR> name.Ravistands for father and Rahu stands for Grand<BR> father.The name of the native may have bearing upon "fame,name etc".because<BR> Lagnalord Jupiter who is also the lord of the tenth house aspects Sun who is<BR> incidentally situated in the tenth house itself.Sun is in the sign of<BR> "Aranya" with the demon Rahu.indicating Madhu sudhana.<BR> Let me continue afterwards,<BR> Regards,<BR> jagannathan.<BR> <BR> On 5/15/06, Pradeep <BR> wrote:<BR> ><BR> > Dear members,<BR> ><BR> > Just to get an idea of judging a horoscope I shall be grateful if the<BR> > learned members just provide me the guidance about how to go about it from<BR> > the following example.<BR> ><BR> > "Mars is posited in meena lagna whose lord guru is vakra in kataka and<BR> > aspects budha in 11th house and shukra in 9th house which is hemmed between<BR> > malefics in 8th H (Sat) and 10th H (Ravi and Rahu)."<BR> ><BR> > How does one go about it step by step to arrive at conclusions.?<BR> ><BR> > Please assume any dasa and bhukti.....as my objective is just to get the<BR> > feel of the art of interpreting a birth chart.<BR> ><BR> > Thank you<BR> ><BR> > Regards,<BR> > Pradeep<BR> ><BR> > <BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > Archives: <a href="vedic astrology">vedic astrology</a><BR> ><BR> > Group info: <a href="vedic astrology/info.html">vedic astrology/info.html</a><BR> ><BR> > <BR> ><BR> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......<BR> ><BR> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > <BR> > Astrology chart Vedic<BR> > astrology Astrology<BR> > horoscope Astrology<BR> > software<BR> > ------------------------------<BR> > <BR> ><BR> ><BR> > - Visit your group "vedic astrology"<BR> > on the web.<BR> ><BR> > - <BR> > vedic astrology<BR> ><BR> > - Terms of<BR> > Service .<BR> ><BR> ><BR> > ------------------------------<BR> ><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 3 <BR> "Jagannathan Kapisthalam" jagannathankr <BR> Mon May 15, 2006 5:28am(PDT) <BR> Re: Bhavishya purana and Varivasya rahasyam<BR> <BR> Dear Sir,<BR> Some portions of Bhavishya Purana can be had access to at Shri Ramakrishna<BR> Ashram ,Hyderabad.there is a great library of books for free reading.You may<BR> kindly contact them.I too read some of it.<BR> Regards,<BR> Jagannathan.<BR> <BR> <BR> On 5/15/06, m_jyn wrote:<BR> ><BR> > aum Nama Sivaya<BR> ><BR> > Respected gurus and frinds,<BR> ><BR> > May I kindly be guided as to how I may able to get Bhavishya Purana and<BR> > Varivasya rahasyam. I have been searching for those two books but could<BR> > not locate it. If anyone has it with them, kindly contact me.<BR> ><BR> > with respectful regards,<BR> > jayan<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > Archives: <a href="vedic astrology">vedic astrology</a><BR> ><BR> > Group info: <a href="vedic astrology/info.html">vedic astrology/info.html</a><BR> ><BR> > <BR> ><BR> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......<BR> ><BR> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > <BR> > Astrology chart Vedic<BR> > astrology Astrology<BR> > horoscope Astrology<BR> > software<BR> > ------------------------------<BR> > <BR> ><BR> ><BR> > - Visit your group "vedic astrology"<BR> > on the web.<BR> ><BR> > - <BR> > vedic astrology<BR> ><BR> > - Terms of<BR> > Service .<BR> ><BR> ><BR> > ------------------------------<BR> ><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 4 <BR> "kishore mohan" kishorepatnaik09 <BR> Mon May 15, 2006 6:16am(PDT) <BR> Re: Marriage Timing<BR> <BR> Dear Kumar, <BR> <BR> Can you please make your criticism somewhat more clear??? Are you <BR> trying to say that Srinivas has given a ray of hope for nothing<BR> (because the lady remained unmarried for 38 years) or are you saying <BR> that he said something wrong???? <BR> <BR> Personally, I saw nothing wrong with what he has written. <BR> <BR> Kishore patnaik <BR> <BR> <BR> vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <BR> <BR> wrote:<BR> ><BR> > Dear Sreeram,<BR> > In my opinion, you need exercise restraint. For marriage, Rasi and <BR> Navamsa are most important. Have you seen both ? Does it justify <BR> remaining unmarried at 38 (badly delayed for an Indian female). See <BR> 7th lord of Rasi in 9th and 7th lord of Navamsa exalted in 11th <BR> aspecting the 7th. Does it justify the things ? Then see that Navamsa <BR> is changing within 12 seconds. What should be the apprehension here ? <BR> Then why this hasty conclusion and why this frustrating advice ? Be <BR> careful always before advising anyone to go for insurance. Always try <BR> to see some silver lining and try to boost the morale of the native <BR> without ignoring the astrological facts. In this case situation <BR> becomes clear only if we consider Leo Navamsa and if we remember that <BR> Venus-Moon syndrome is important for negating marriage. See Venus-<BR> Moon mutual aspect here.<BR> > <BR> > P.Kumar (Mumbai)<BR> > <BR> > - <BR> > "sreeram srinivas" <BR> > ; <BR> astrology>; <BR> Hyderabad>; "'k_mayag'" <BR> > Cc: "kishore patnaik" ; "Sunil John" <BR> <BR> > Sunday, May 14, 2006 2:34 PM<BR> > [vedic astrology] Marriage Timing<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Software Used : Jhora Version 7.02<BR> > DOB: July 11, 1968, Hyderabad, India - 3:17 PM.<BR> > Query : Is there a promise of Marriage or denial ??<BR> > Lagna : Scorpio<BR> > 3H : Moon<BR> > 5H : Rahu<BR> > 6H : Saturn Debilitated<BR> > 8H : Mars, Mercury, Sun<BR> > 9H : Venus<BR> > 10H : Jupiter<BR> > 11H : Ketu<BR> > <BR> > Balance of Dasha ( Vimshottari ): Moon - 8 years approx.<BR> > Mars - 7 <BR> years<BR> > Rahu - 18 <BR> years <BR> > Currently running Jupiter - Mercury period.<BR> > <BR> > Negative Points<BR> > <BR> > LL is 8H, In Moon Chart LL is debilitated, In D9, LL in 3H <BR> inimical sign,<BR> > Venus Chart LL in 7H inimical sign.<BR> > Debilitated Saturn is vargottam ( D-1 & D9 )<BR> > Moon is severly afflicted - by Mars, Debilitated Saturn, Moon in <BR> Saturn<BR> > sign ( Capricon ). Hence, mother of this native must have had <BR> horrowing<BR> > time !! How did I conclude ?? 4HL also indicates Mother, here it <BR> is saturn<BR> > and debilitated. First minus point. But the 4H is aspected by <BR> Jupiter. How<BR> > can saturn is ok. However, the natural karaka for Mother, i.e. <BR> Mother is<BR> > seriously afflicted as stated above. Hence, it has to be native's <BR> mother !!<BR> > <BR> > 7HL & 12HL in 9H = as we are discussing marriage - <BR> indicates "dosha" <BR> > 4HL is afflicted for its Lord Saturn is debilitated.<BR> > 8H is afflicted by 6HL Mars<BR> > 12H is also afflicted by Debilitated Saturn<BR> > <BR> > The native has received dasha pattern which has NO relation to the <BR> 7HL and<BR> > Jupiter is NOT aspected by any other planet. Hence, the delay in <BR> Marriage.<BR> > But it is getting exalted in D-9 with Venus. Hence, there is <BR> a "Ray of<BR> > Hope". Moon ( Mind ) is vey much inclined to marriage. Moon <BR> is dharma<BR> > & Venus is here Kama Lord. Both are aspecting each other. Venus <BR> is also<BR> > 12HL. See the conflict of mind !!<BR> > <BR> > The native is "likely" to get married in this Jupiter's Mahadasha. <BR> However,<BR> > with the advent of Saturn's Mahadasha, the troubles start for <BR> her. Her 8H<BR> > is severly afflicted and hence, even should she get married, in all<BR> > probability her married life is not long say - 10-12 years. <BR> Hence, it is<BR> > advisable for her to get her husband insured for a "large sum" with <BR> proper<BR> > documentation - ( check & recheck ) atleast she stands to gain in <BR> long run<BR> > !! Though very very "mean advice" - cannot help giving this - Note: <BR> In the<BR> > Moon chart, the 2HL is debilitated - Bank Balance is nil !!! In <BR> Sun chart,<BR> > 2HL Moon aspects its own house from 8H !!!<BR> > <BR> > Saturn - Mercury period is fatal to her would be husband.<BR> > <BR> > Further, 2HL & 5HL Jupiter is in 10H ( Leo Sign ). The native is<BR> > involved in a profession attributed to Jupiter - i.e. education, <BR> teaching in<BR> > a government institution possibly involving post graduate or <BR> research<BR> > studies - a strong possibility.<BR> > <BR> > I have not considered here the D-9 & D-10 positions. All the <BR> predictions<BR> > are said through use of D-1, Moon & Venus Charts.<BR> > <BR> > I would invite the supporters of the logic " Debilitated Planet ( <BR> Saturn )<BR> > in birth charts becoming Vargottam " as seen in this case would <BR> ACT like a<BR> > exalted planet to present their comments taking this particular <BR> case as the<BR> > native would love to hear counter arguments - for she is likely to <BR> undergo<BR> > the same after 10-12 years and provide "validated" results"<BR> > <BR> > I would request the native to validate the forecast given in here, <BR> by<BR> > responding to the mail with cc to my e-mail id i..e.<BR> > sreeram64 with the same fervour as the question was put !!!!<BR> > <BR> > with regards,<BR> > sreeram srinivas, New Delhi<BR> > sreeram64<BR> > Cell : 098682-31817<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > notify [ <BR> > notify] On Behalf Of k_mayag<BR> > Sunday, May 14, 2006 3:20 AM<BR> > sreeram srinivas<BR> > Marriage Timing<BR> > <BR> > Dear Sreeram Ji,<BR> > Is there any hope of marriage in this chart (it is mine). <BR> How/Where<BR> > will I meet the spouse. <BR> > <BR> > Thank you.<BR> > Maya<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > vedic astrology, "sreeram srinivas"<BR> > wrote:<BR> > ><BR> > > get in touch with Mr. Kishore Patnaik 09849270729 ( hyderabad <BR> cell no. )<BR> > > <BR> > > with regards,<BR> > > sreeram sriniavs<BR> > ><BR> > > _____<BR> > ><BR> > > vedic astrology<BR> > > [ <BR> > vedic astrology] On Behalf Of<BR> > goodgirllakshmi<BR> > > Saturday, May 13, 2006 2:53 PM<BR> > > vedic astrology<BR> > > [vedic astrology] Advice pls<BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > > Dear Memebers<BR> > > I need your help,i want to if any good astrologer available in<BR> > Hyderabad.One of friend is in hyderabad so if astro guru can help <BR> me.<BR> > > regards<BR> > > Lakshmi.K<BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Archives: <a href="vedic astrology">vedic astrology</a><BR> > <BR> > Group info: <a href="vedic astrology/info.html">vedic astrology/info.html</a><BR> > <BR> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-<BR> <BR> > <BR> > ....... 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Share your knowledge on Answers India<BR> Send instant messages to your online friends - NOW<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 6 <BR> "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro <BR> Mon May 15, 2006 6:28am(PDT) <BR> Re: Bhavishya purana and Varivasya rahasyam<BR> <BR> .HARE RAM.<BR> Dear jayan,<BR> You may take these books from any stall of Geeta Press Gorakhpur.<BR> I brought Bhavishya Puran from there.I hope you may get Varivasya<BR> Rahasyam from there too.<BR> <BR> Regards<BR> Shashi Shekhar Sharma<BR> <BR> <BR> Jagannathan Kapisthalam wrote:<BR> Dear Sir,<BR> Some portions of Bhavishya Purana can be had access to at Shri Ramakrishna<BR> Ashram ,Hyderabad.there is a great library of books for free reading.You may<BR> kindly contact them.I too read some of it.<BR> Regards,<BR> Jagannathan.<BR> <BR> <BR> On 5/15/06, m_jyn wrote:<BR> ><BR> > aum Nama Sivaya<BR> ><BR> > Respected gurus and frinds,<BR> ><BR> > May I kindly be guided as to how I may able to get Bhavishya Purana and<BR> > Varivasya rahasyam. I have been searching for those two books but could<BR> > not locate it. If anyone has it with them, kindly contact me.<BR> ><BR> > with respectful regards,<BR> > jayan<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > Archives: <a href="vedic astrology">vedic astrology</a><BR> ><BR> > Group info: <a href="vedic astrology/info.html">vedic astrology/info.html</a><BR> ><BR> > <BR> ><BR> > ....... 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Your <BR> 2nd lord<BR> > moon, ruling status is afflicted by ketu. Your 3rd lord sun, ruling<BR> > initiatives, is badly placed in 8th house. 4th lord mercury, ruling<BR> > comforts, is combust and badly placed in 8th house. Placement of <BR> Jupiter in<BR> > 10th house indicates your profession should be in the field of <BR> teaching &<BR> > consultancy. 11th lord mars, ruling gains, placed in 12th house, <BR> indicates<BR> > income from foreign land.<BR> > <BR> > RD<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > On 5/9/06, sovina76 wrote:<BR> > ><BR> > > I am a recent member of this group and would be highly <BR> obliged ,if<BR> > > respected astrologer(s) of this group could go through my <BR> horoscope and<BR> > > suggest me , my birht details are<BR> > ><BR> > > 29 jan , 1976 , 04: 13 pm , dehradun<BR> > ><BR> > > i intend to revive my proffessional life , please suggest how <BR> soon can<BR> > > i get job .<BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > > kind regards<BR> > ><BR> > > Sovina<BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > > Archives: <a href="vedic astrology">vedic astrology</a><BR> > ><BR> > > Group info: <a href="vedic astrology/info.html">vedic astrology/info.html</a><BR> > ><BR> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-<BR> <BR> > ><BR> > > ....... 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Sehwag warned by the BCCI? Share your knowledge on Answers India<BR> Send instant messages to your online friends - NOW<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 9 <BR> "crystal pages" rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca<BR> Mon May 15, 2006 6:28am(PDT) <BR> Re: Kendradhipathi Dosha Vs. Maha Purusha Yoga<BR> <BR> This is an interesting instance about mutually contradictory <BR> positions. Another one is described in BPHS which indicates that <BR> presence of jupiter, mercury or venus alone in a kendra would remove <BR> all evils in a chart.<BR> In the chapter before this one, combinations are given where jupiter <BR> is in the first house and in one case the combination kills the <BR> mother and in another, it kills the father. <BR> <BR> RR<BR> <BR> vedic astrology, "renunw" wrote:<BR> ><BR> > Dear learned members,<BR> > <BR> > "Benefics, if they become owners of Kendras do not bestow good on <BR> men." <BR> > <BR> > Then on the other hand when "Jupiter, Venus & Mercury are in <BR> Kendras in <BR> > own house or exalted give Maha Purusha Yoga."<BR> > <BR> > So for example in a Vrushika Lagna or Aries Lagna native if natal <BR> Venus <BR> > is in the 7th house or for a Gemini native Jupiter is in the 7th <BR> or 10 <BR> > th house etc. etc. what conclusion can one come upon since the <BR> above 2 <BR> > rules bring contradictory results?<BR> > <BR> > Kindly explain.<BR> > <BR> > Thank you,<BR> > <BR> > Blessings<BR> > <BR> > Renuji<BR> ><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 10 <BR> "deep_gem_999" deep_gem_999 <BR> Mon May 15, 2006 6:29am(PDT) <BR> Regarding Buiz<BR> <BR> Respected Members of Group,<BR> <BR> I have a typical query, I am into gemstone buissness.Things are fine <BR> if I do domestic retail buiz..but whenever I try to export things just <BR> go wrong..sometimes delay is in payment and sometimes something else <BR> happens..<BR> <BR> Please guide me...I am really concerned as still there lots of money <BR> pending from foreign buyers...<BR> <BR> Regards<BR> Deepak<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 11 <BR> "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro <BR> Mon May 15, 2006 6:29am(PDT) <BR> Re: Query<BR> <BR> .HARE RAM.<BR> Dear Anand,<BR> Your marriage will take place this year positively.Plz offer water<BR> to Sun daily but on Sunday offer water putting in 12 pieces of Rice,<BR> Red flower,Suger and vermilion.Always use copper pot for offering<BR> water and wear a simple silver ring on Friday after Sun set in middle<BR> finger.God bless you.<BR> <BR> With good wishes<BR> Shashi Shekhar Sharma Mobile-09818310075<BR> <BR> Nallan Anand wrote:<BR> Dear Sir,<BR> <BR> My DOB Details are 23.02.1975, 06:30am, Coimbatore..<BR> <BR> My marriage delays for last 5 years....Though there is no single set <BR> back from my side...<BR> <BR> Is there any denial of marriage is there in my horoscope ?<BR> <BR> Anand N<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Archives: <a href="vedic astrology">vedic astrology</a><BR> <BR> Group info: <a href="vedic astrology/info.html">vedic astrology/info.html</a><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Links<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 12 <BR> "S.C. Kursija" sckursija <BR> Mon May 15, 2006 6:29am(PDT) <BR> Re: Kendradhipathi Dosha Vs. Maha Purusha Yoga<BR> <BR> Om Shri Gurave Namah<BR> Dear friend,<BR> To be owner and to be posited in a house are two different things. When a benefic planet is owner of Kendra he will not be able to his his benefic results. but when he is posited in Kendra, he will give auspicious results. When a planet is exalted or posited in own sign he gets strenghth and give more auspicious results. <BR> <BR> <BR> renunw wrote: Dear learned members,<BR> <BR> "Benefics, if they become owners of Kendras do not bestow good on men." <BR> <BR> Then on the other hand when "Jupiter, Venus & Mercury are in Kendras in <BR> own house or exalted give Maha Purusha Yoga."<BR> <BR> So for example in a Vrushika Lagna or Aries Lagna native if natal Venus <BR> is in the 7th house or for a Gemini native Jupiter is in the 7th or 10 <BR> th house etc. etc. what conclusion can one come upon since the above 2 <BR> rules bring contradictory results?<BR> <BR> Kindly explain.<BR> <BR> Thank you,<BR> <BR> Blessings<BR> <BR> Renuji<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Archives: <a href="vedic astrology">vedic astrology</a><BR> <BR> Group info: <a href="vedic astrology/info.html">vedic astrology/info.html</a><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ....... 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Is it advisable to go ahead with <BR> this opportunity?<BR> <BR> <BR> Avinash<BR> DOB: 25/08/1973<BR> Place of Birth: Ausa, Dist. Latur, Maharashtra, India.<BR> Time of Birth: 5.15 PM<BR> <BR> Thanks in advance<BR> <BR> Avinash<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 14 <BR> "S Rg" srg_in06 <BR> Mon May 15, 2006 6:30am(PDT) <BR> Help!<BR> <BR> Om Sri Sainathay Namah<BR> <BR> Respected learned Gurujis,<BR> <BR> I am new to the group and seek your kind help.<BR> <BR> The native in question is our daughter who was married to the boy she loved in 2004. She was tortured by the husband , her in-laws from day 1. After trying her best to adjust she had to quit and take up a job. No reconciliation .The divorce process is about to start.<BR> Her Birth details....<BR> 18.02 .1982 , 20.01 hrs Place-- 85.50 E, 20.15 N<BR> <BR> What is her future? Some say this happened bcz she is manglik?Some say she is manglik, some say it is cancelled due to presence of Saturn in H-1 .So many articles are posted on Mangal Dosha. It is all confusing.Is she manglik ? what is to be done? Remedy, please! What is the future for her?<BR> <BR> Yours, <BR> A distressed mother<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around <BR> <a href=""></a> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 15 <BR> "biswajeet raja" biswajeet_raja (AT) (DOT) co.in<BR> Mon May 15, 2006 6:30am(PDT) <BR> Re: Query<BR> <BR> plz advise me about my marriage and my career. i was<BR> born on 7th feb 1978 at 10.15 a.m. in cuttack<BR> (orissa)on tuesday.<BR> <BR> --- Jagannathan Kapisthalam <BR> wrote:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Dear Sir,<BR> Matrimonial matters will gather momentum after Jupiter<BR> transits to Vrischkam<BR> in Oct,2006.I wish you all the best.<BR> Regards,Jagannathan.<BR> <BR> <BR> On 5/14/06, Nallan Anand wrote:<BR> ><BR> > Dear Sir,<BR> ><BR> > My DOB Details are 23.02.1975, 06:30am, Coimbatore..<BR> ><BR> > My marriage delays for last 5 years....Though there<BR> is no single set<BR> > back from my side...<BR> ><BR> > Is there any denial of marriage is there in my<BR> horoscope ?<BR> ><BR> > Anand N<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > Archives:<BR> <a href="vedic astrology">http://www...comvedic astrology</a><BR> ><BR> > Group info:<BR> <a href="vedic astrology/info.html">vedic astrology/info.html</a><BR> ><BR> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to<BR> vedic astrology-<BR> ><BR> > ....... 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Mail has the best spam protection around <BR> <a href=""></a> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 16 <BR> "sovina76" sovina76 (AT) (DOT) co.in<BR> Mon May 15, 2006 6:31am(PDT) <BR> Re: Astrologer(s) Please advice<BR> <BR> Kind attn : Rahul Dev ji<BR> <BR> AS per my understanding i am running through sat/mer dasha , could <BR> you please relook my horoscope.<BR> <BR> rohit<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> vedic astrology, "Rahul Dev" <BR> wrote:<BR> ><BR> > Rohit<BR> > <BR> > Currently you are running Saturn/Mars dasha. Saturn, in transit, is<BR> > afflicted by nodes, hence this problem. Exercise patience till end <BR> of June.<BR> > You will definitely get a job.<BR> > <BR> > RD<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > On 5/9/06, rohitsikka wrote:<BR> > ><BR> > > kind Attn : Honourable Astrologer(s)<BR> > ><BR> > > Sub : Seeking Advice<BR> > ><BR> > > Since sep last year proffessional aspect of my life is not on <BR> right<BR> > > track infact i am without job/work. I seek your help on that , <BR> please<BR> > > suggest when will my career would flourish and how soon will i <BR> get job.<BR> > ><BR> > > my birth details are , 2nd march 1975, 04:42 am , Delhi<BR> > ><BR> > > kind regards<BR> > ><BR> > > Rohit Sikka<BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > > Archives: <a href="vedic astrology">vedic astrology</a><BR> > ><BR> > > Group info: <a href="vedic astrology/info.html">vedic astrology/info.html</a><BR> > ><BR> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-<BR> <BR> > ><BR> > > ....... 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I'm very much kind to this Well experienced young Astrologer; who have not only solved my problem , but uncovered some dark facts put by some money eating Astrologers.<BR> <BR> I must suggest people or members & well respected astronomers; who are still trying to catch some stars/planets of Pramod Mahajan & TN- CM; who are no more with us. Try to solve the problem; of the people who really need help & their messages are still in pending List. Try to do some nobel cause at-least; who are still present in this world; not wasting time for CM & PM, who already have their future to crush our future. <BR> <BR> Do visit <a href="http://gauravastro.blogspot.com/'>http://gauravastro.blogspot.com/">http://gauravastro.blogspot.com/'>http://gauravastro.blogspot.com/</a> & at-least try to thank this young astrologer for his effort.<BR> <BR> vedic astrology wrote:<BR> <BR> There are 25 messages in this issue.<BR> <BR> Topics in this digest:<BR> <BR> 1. Re: Pramod <BR> "tw853" tw853 <BR> 2. Re: Who would be the Next C.M of T.N- My Attempt Part 1/2. <BR> "Sathiyanarayana Gupta" gupta816 <BR> 3. Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!! <BR> "P Kumar" pkumar24 <BR> 4. A Request to All members!!! <BR> "" gg_0202 (AT) (DOT) co.in<BR> 5. Re: A Request to All members!!! Ghosh Babu, <BR> "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego <BR> 6. Please help this native --second post ! <BR> "avin6dl" avin6dl <BR> 7. Trouble in job/Need suggestion <BR> "sukanta mahakhuda" suks400 <BR> 8. Re: need advice on neechbhanga rajyayoga <BR> "mohitslovein" mohitvirmani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com<BR> 9. Re: Pramod <BR> "n_akoch" n_akoch <BR> 10. Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on Pramod Mahajan/Doubts <BR> "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro <BR> 11. Future Path <BR> "anstri" anstri77 (AT) (DOT) co.in<BR> 12. Re: ketu's sub period <BR> "r_m_sharma" ram.dishant <BR> 13. Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... 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Vyasa-SJC Circle, 14 May 11:00 am, California <BR> "Gail Francisco" gailfrancisco <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 1 <BR> "tw853" tw853 <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 4:40am(PDT) <BR> Re: Pramod<BR> <BR> <a href="http://www.journalofastrology.com/ARTICLES/propod_mahajan_13.htm">http://www.journalofastrology.com/ARTICLES/propod_mahajan_13.htm</a><BR> <BR> <BR> vedic astrology, "renunw" wrote:<BR> ><BR> > Dear Haizen,<BR> > <BR> > I would be very grateful to you, if I can have a copy of the <BR> article,<BR> > <BR> > Thank you,<BR> > <BR> > Blessings<BR> > <BR> > Renu<BR> > <BR> > vedic astrology, "haizen" wrote:<BR> > ><BR> > > Hello:<BR> > > <BR> > > I will be sending out the article privately as soon as I've <BR> > > finished adding more material and proofing it. The new <BR> > > section is, "What indicates Pravin's anger in Pramod's <BR> > > chart?" I feel these transits are a quite revealing, and <BR> > > this means going back a few days before the tragic <BR> > > event. In the meantime, please forgive the delay and I<BR> > > hope to send it out within the next 24 hours. <BR> > > <BR> > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <BR> <BR> wrote:<BR> > > ><BR> > > > Dear Haizen,<BR> > > > Please send me the said article. I shall feel indebted.<BR> > > > <BR> > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai)<BR> > > > <BR> > > > -<BR> > > > "haizen" <BR> > > > <BR> > > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:57 PM<BR> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT <BR> prediction <BR> > on Pramod<BR> > > > Mahajan/Doubts<BR> > > > <BR> > > > <BR> > > > Hello to all:<BR> > > > <BR> > > > Two days ago I completed my own detailed analysis of the<BR> > > > Vrisha chart KN Rao received from R.S. Pawar and prefers, and I<BR> > > > am willing to share it privately with those who are interested<BR> > > > in getting at the astrological roots of this unexpected loss. I<BR> > > > did the analysis to test out the chart for myself and it works<BR> > > > excellently; plus it brings out a number of significant points<BR> > > > of tension between Mr. Mahajan and his younger brother. I<BR> > > > would not have shared this analysis publicly while he was alive<BR> > > > out of deference to his family and friends, but I have found it<BR> > > > instructive to bring understanding to this tragedy after the <BR> fact.<BR> > > > His chart is one of few exceptions I've made when it comes to<BR> > > > looking at the rashi chakras of contemporary political figures:<BR> > > > he was not the usual politician.<BR> > > > <BR> > > > Put "Pramod" in the subject line of your request. Article will <BR> be<BR> > > > sent as a "Word" document. I am not connected with KN Rao, but <BR> I<BR> > > > think he might find this analysis of interest if he ever comes <BR> > upon<BR> > > > it.<BR> > > > <BR> > > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige<BR> > > > Sedona, AZ, USA<BR> > > > <BR> > > > <BR> > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi"<BR> > > > <BR> > > > wrote:<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > Hi Shashi Shekhar,<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I<BR> > > > > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly <BR> and <BR> > with<BR> > > > > humility without bothering about the eminence of the <BR> astrologer <BR> > who<BR> > > > > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by <BR> eminent<BR> > > > > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without <BR> > checking<BR> > > > > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they <BR> can't go<BR> > > > > wrong).<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > Regards,<BR> > > > > Jyothi<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma<BR> > > > > <BR> wrote:<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > .HARE RAM.<BR> > > > > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,<BR> > > > > > Saadar <BR> Charan<BR> > > > > Sparsha!<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > He is my <BR> > second Guru<BR> > > > > in astrology but like Aacharya<BR> > > > > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met <BR> him <BR> > before<BR> > > > > while i am resident<BR> > > > > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves<BR> > > > > knowledge so a have some<BR> > > > > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want <BR> to <BR> > keep<BR> > > > > before him.I hope kind<BR> > > > > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell <BR> us <BR> > the<BR> > > > > reason according to<BR> > > > > > Vrishabh Lagana.<BR> > > > > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could <BR> we<BR> > > > > predict that this native had a<BR> > > > > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in <BR> own <BR> > house.<BR> > > > > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while <BR> the <BR> > 8th<BR> > > > > lord sitted in own house,<BR> > > > > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be <BR> > soft, 7th<BR> > > > > lord is in own sign.<BR> > > > > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger <BR> > brother?<BR> > > > > Karak of 3rd house<BR> > > > > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord <BR> of <BR> > same<BR> > > > > house is sitted with Lagan<BR> > > > > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of <BR> > Karak<BR> > > > > nor the lord of 3rd house<BR> > > > > > Moon was running at the time of incident.<BR> > > > > > So i have these some doubts,I again do <BR> request <BR> > to Sh.<BR> > > > > Rao jee through you if<BR> > > > > > these are baseless,please ignore them and <BR> > forgive me.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > With Due Regards<BR> > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma<BR> > > > > Mobile-09818310075<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > Kaartik Gor wrote:<BR> > > > > > Om Sai Ram<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > KN RAO Sir is a legend and his silence did say a lot to <BR> > people who<BR> > > > > know him.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > Like always he shows the way to everyone.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > God bless him !!!<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > regards,<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > KG<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > Vishal Bhatia wrote:<BR> > > > > > Pramod Mahajan<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > K.N.Rao.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > On 22 April, a Saturday, when I was going to the Bharatiya <BR> > Vidya<BR> > > > > Bhawan, I got from R.S. Pawar, the co author of the book on<BR> > > > > Dwadashottari Dasha, the horoscope of Pramod Mahajan along <BR> with <BR> > the<BR> > > > > degrees dictated to me while we were in a car. Presuming it <BR> to <BR> > be<BR> > > > > correct, it was put on the board in the class which has two <BR> > doctors<BR> > > > > also. I told the class that I saw it as a hopeless case if <BR> the<BR> > > > > horoscope was correct. One male doctor said that there <BR> existed <BR> > some<BR> > > > > hope because the lungs and heart were not affected while a <BR> lady<BR> > > > > doctor said that it was difficult case.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > Back home, I was bombarded with different horoscopes, most <BR> of <BR> > them<BR> > > > > preferring Mithuna lagna, while one went on to even Simha <BR> lagna <BR> > with<BR> > > > > the date of birth being different, 27 October 1948. The date <BR> 27<BR> > > > > October was given to me by a Maharastrian woman living in <BR> > Calcutta<BR> > > > > who said that it was got from an astrologer of Maharastra <BR> who <BR> > had<BR> > > > > this horoscope in his possession and had made predictions <BR> for <BR> > the<BR> > > > > Mahajan family on this horoscope.That astrologer predicted <BR> > recovery<BR> > > > > after April. So it was a case of confusion worse confounded.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > In different television programmes most of them showed <BR> Mithuna<BR> > > > > lagna and said that if he survived 27 and 28 of April , <BR> Mahajan <BR> > would<BR> > > > > survive. Another astrologer using the same data but <BR> Vrischika <BR> > lagna<BR> > > > > also said that if, Pramod Mahajan survived the last few days <BR> of<BR> > > > > April, he would survive and become the most important leader <BR> of <BR> > the<BR> > > > > BJP.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > Then on different websites almost everyone seemed to <BR> prefer <BR> > Mithuna<BR> > > > > lagna and all of them repeated the same prediction of it <BR> being <BR> > fatal<BR> > > > > in the last days of April and survival later, even a much <BR> > greater<BR> > > > > future than he had had so far.<BR> > > > > > During the days the Pramod Mahajan tragedy was being <BR> > discussed in<BR> > > > > the media, particularly by the television media, I received <BR> the<BR> > > > > following email from Switzerland and see my reply.<BR> > > > > > ====================================<BR> > > > > > "Vijayadas,Pradeep Kumar"<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > "knrao"<BR> > > > > > Pramod Mahajan<BR> > > > > > Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:42:58 IST<BR> > > > > > Dear K.N.Raoji<BR> > > > > > Is it about Moon a Maraka transiting 12th from/on to lagna <BR> > during<BR> > > > > the said 2 days.In natal chart Moon is with lagna lord and <BR> > aspected<BR> > > > > by saturn in transit.(Is saturn 22nd drekkana lord) Another <BR> > maraka<BR> > > > > jupiter is also aspecting lagna from transit position.<BR> > > > > > Respect<BR> > > > > > Pradeep<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > knrao Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44<BR> > > > > > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar<BR> > > > > > Re: Pramod Mahajan<BR> > > > > > Pradeep,<BR> > > > > > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with <BR> the<BR> > > > > following details seem to be reliable:<BR> > > > > > 30 Oct 948 / 19/51 /Mahboobnagar<BR> > > > > > Lagna Vrisha 17/39<BR> > > > > > Moon in Kanya 21/35<BR> > > > > > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April <BR> he <BR> > can<BR> > > > > drag on for four months at most if this horoscope is correct.<BR> > > > > > K.N.Rao<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 Vijayadas,Pradeep<BR> > > > > > Kumar wrote :<BR> > > > > > Dear K.N.Raoji<BR> > > > > > Do you have the horoscope of shri Pramod Mahajan.<BR> > > > > > Respect<BR> > > > > > Pradeep<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > At no stage I saw any chances of the survival of Mahajan <BR> on <BR> > the<BR> > > > > basis of the horoscope I had before me. I had no reason to <BR> > doubt it<BR> > > > > as some of the events of his life are verifiable from this <BR> > horoscope<BR> > > > > including his educational pattern.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > I was aware that as many as five horoscopes were in <BR> > circulation and<BR> > > > > some television channels desperate to be the "first" to <BR> cover <BR> > it from<BR> > > > > all angles , including the strological<BR> > > > > > analysis, approached many astrologers. I was approached by <BR> > some<BR> > > > > channels but I refused to appear in any television show . I <BR> did <BR> > not<BR> > > > > want to cause any pain to the family of Pramod Mahajan which <BR> > had been<BR> > > > > in deep agony during all these days. In fact, while a Hindi<BR> > > > > television channel showed a woman anchor talk aggressively <BR> of it<BR> > > > > being very fatal when water from the kidneys of Mahajan was <BR> > being<BR> > > > > removed on 27 April, an English channel showed in a rather <BR> > cultured<BR> > > > > way a correspondent saying that a request had been received <BR> > from the<BR> > > > > family of Mahajan not to overplay it as fatal. It was clear <BR> > from this<BR> > > > > that India's private television channels will never learn to <BR> be<BR> > > > > cultured.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > There is so much awkardness and delicacy in discussing <BR> openly <BR> > the<BR> > > > > impending death of someone in glaring news. It is not the <BR> first <BR> > time<BR> > > > > that many astrologers have claimed that they have got the <BR> > horoscopes<BR> > > > > from most reliable "family sources". Majority of them stuck <BR> to<BR> > > > > Mithuna lagna and predicted recovery.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > But what a student passed on to me with Vrisha lagna <BR> appealed <BR> > to me<BR> > > > > as correct and I privately predicted to friends that it was <BR> not <BR> > a<BR> > > > > case of recovery and, at most, it could drag on only for a <BR> week <BR> > or<BR> > > > > fortnight. I saw no chance of recovery at all. It is what I <BR> had<BR> > > > > written to Pradeep on 24 April.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > I am surprised at astrologers who cannot see the rise of <BR> > Mahajan in<BR> > > > > the dasha of Saturn the tenth lord from Vrisha lagna. Why <BR> are <BR> > they<BR> > > > > sticking to Mithuna and predicting recovery?<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > See for instance the period of his rise. In Chara dasha it <BR> > would be<BR> > > > > the dasha of Vrischika with an excellent eleventh house <BR> > containing<BR> > > > > the Amatyakaraka and period of his amassing wealth also. In <BR> > Vrischika-<BR> > > > > Meena- Karka in 1996 with Mars aspecting the tenth house he <BR> was <BR> > even<BR> > > > > Defence Minister for a brief period during the ill fated 13 <BR> days<BR> > > > > government of Atal Behari Vajpai.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > From Tula Kumbha 3 July 2003 with Amatyakaraka falling in <BR> the<BR> > > > > eighth house he failed with his India Shining slogan and the <BR> NDA<BR> > > > > government and BJP fell from power. TV predictions of some<BR> > > > > astrologers Almost all astrologers said that the transit of <BR> > Moon in<BR> > > > > Mesha could be fatal but all of them added that if he <BR> survived <BR> > that,<BR> > > > > he would recover.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > With so many combinations for fatality present even from <BR> > Mithuna<BR> > > > > lagna, how was Mahajan's survival seen ?<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > From Vrisha lagna, the inevitable was visible more easily. <BR> I <BR> > had a<BR> > > > > different view it will be Saturn- Rahu-Mercury which was <BR> rather <BR> > bad.<BR> > > > > But to say, that he would recover after that appeared <BR> > impossible to<BR> > > > > me. And ofcourse Moon in Mesha is a signal of danger. And <BR> later <BR> > Moon<BR> > > > > in Mithuna would be equally dangerous as it would aspect the<BR> > > > > Karakamsha and also the pada of the eighth lord together <BR> with <BR> > Mars.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > The period that would continue after will not be less <BR> fatal. <BR> > There<BR> > > > > was no chance of a recovery at all. It was prudent to avoid<BR> > > > > television channels and discuss the available horoscope of <BR> > Mahajan<BR> > > > > quietly in our astrological circles, I decided.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > As in the case of news in general so too in the case of <BR> > Mahajan,<BR> > > > > balanced news coverage<BR> > > > > > was available only in the Doordarshan which is government<BR> > > > > controlled and has a tradition of dignity, news sense <BR> presented <BR> > by<BR> > > > > mature and experience journalists.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > ASTROLOGICAL ANALYSIS<BR> > > > > > The analysis we had arrived at was the following.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > Vimshottari dasha<BR> > > > > > In Vimshottari dasha it is Saturn-Rahu-Mercury from 6 <BR> January <BR> > 2006<BR> > > > > to 3 June 2006 and Mercury here is the second lord and <BR> maraka.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > Chara dasha<BR> > > > > > The picture is clearer in Jaimini's Chara Dasha in which <BR> it is<BR> > > > > Kanya which contains both the Atmakaraka and the Karakamsha. <BR> The<BR> > > > > antardasha is Mesha from 31 May 2005 to 31 May 2006. This is <BR> > eighth<BR> > > > > from Karakamsha and fatal.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > In Sthira dasha<BR> > > > > > The picture is equally depressing in Jaimini Sthira <BR> dasha.. <BR> > It is<BR> > > > > Mesha Mesha upto 5 May 2006. So no hope can he held out. May <BR> 5 <BR> > is<BR> > > > > like a distant date now.This is eighth from Karakamsha and <BR> > fatal .<BR> > > > > Mesha is eighth from Karakamsha and Atmakaraka and from here,<BR> > > > > Bhartikaraka, Mars is in the eighth house showing the <BR> brother <BR> > being<BR> > > > > in trouble. Mesha antardasha is aspected by Mars and Saturn <BR> > showing<BR> > > > > the violent incident.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > The transit of the day<BR> > > > > > Both the lagna lord Venus and Moon are in Kanya on which <BR> Ketu <BR> > has<BR> > > > > been transitting and now Saturn from Karka and Mars from <BR> > Mithuna are<BR> > > > > aspecting it showing the dangerous event clearly. The fifth <BR> > house<BR> > > > > from Vrisha represents the stomach region, as a student <BR> pointed <BR> > out.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > Tajak<BR> > > > > > A colleague in the Institute of Astrology, Bharatiya Vidya <BR> > Bhawan,<BR> > > > > Sri Saxena, worked on the Tajak of Pramod Mahajan and told <BR> me <BR> > that<BR> > > > > the conclusion I had come to, of it being the end of <BR> everything <BR> > for<BR> > > > > Mahajan, was confirmed through the annual horoscope also. <BR> Here <BR> > Mars<BR> > > > > in the fifth house aspecting Saturn in the eighth is ominous <BR> > enough<BR> > > > > and Saturn is the third lord also. Here Muntha is in the <BR> second <BR> > house<BR> > > > > aspected by Saturn and the lord of Muntha, Saturn is in the <BR> > eighth<BR> > > > > house aspected by Mars. The fatal picture drawn from <BR> > Vimshottari and<BR> > > > > Jaimini's Chara dasha is corroborated.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > Bhrigu approach<BR> > > > > > As I was writing this, S. S.dropped in and I asked him to <BR> > give a<BR> > > > > Bhrigu analysis presuming the data to be accurate. SS has <BR> been <BR> > doing<BR> > > > > some remarkable researches in Bhrigu and wants to remain <BR> > anynymous<BR> > > > > for some personal reasons. He did it and said that nothing <BR> was <BR> > good<BR> > > > > and there was no hope.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > I decided to post this piece in the first week of May, as <BR> in <BR> > Sthira<BR> > > > > dasha, the fatal period is upto 5 May.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > NOTE<BR> > > > > > I had told a BJP leader of middle level about a political<BR> > > > > assassination a week before the tragedy of Mahajan and I will<BR> > > > > disclose it later.<BR> > > > > > (Written in parts between 25 April and 2 May 2006)<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > THE PREDICTION OF THE ASSASSINATION OF A POLITICAL LEADER<BR> > > > > > K.N.Rao.<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > The horoscope of BJP must reflect and it is here that I <BR> must <BR> > tell<BR> > > > > readers that I had made a prediction that there would be the<BR> > > > > assassination of a leader soon. These are very confidential<BR> > > > > predictions and so sensitive that I do not want anyone other <BR> > than the<BR> > > > > person to whom I tell it, to even get an inkling of it.<BR> > > > > > See the letter below:<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > To<BR> > > > > > Prof K.N.Rao.<BR> > > > > > FEROZE VARUN GANDHI<BR> > > > > > Dear Guruji,<BR> > > > > > I was deeply shocked to hear of the misfortune that had <BR> > befallen<BR> > > > > Pramodji. I remembered the prediction made to me a week <BR> earlier <BR> > that<BR> > > > > a major assassination of a political leader would take place <BR> > soon. I<BR> > > > > have been thinking about your prediction and several others <BR> > made by<BR> > > > > you over the last year. The accuracy of them continues to <BR> > astound me.<BR> > > > > > Yours sincerely,<BR> > > > > > Varun<BR> > > > > > 27/4/2006<BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > ><BR> > > > > > Subsequent to this, I received many phones from many <BR> people <BR> > asking<BR> > > > > me what was my prediction about Pramod Mahajan. I told them <BR> > that I<BR> > > > > had no doubt that the horoscope I was using in his case was <BR> > correct<BR> > > > > and on this basis I would not even give one percent chance <BR> to <BR> > Mahajan<BR> > > > > for survival. This prediction of mine did not seem to be in <BR> > line with<BR> > > > > the periodical medical bulletins someone told me. <BR> Astrologers <BR> > were<BR> > > > > optimistic of his prediction if he survived April but I was <BR> not <BR> > at<BR> > > > > any stage.<BR> > > > > > The immediate fatal date after 27/28 April would be before <BR> 5 <BR> > May I<BR> > > > > told them. 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May Jupiter's light shine on us .......<BR> > > > <BR> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||<BR> > > > Links<BR> > > ><BR> > ><BR> ><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 2 <BR> "Sathiyanarayana Gupta" gupta816 <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 7:14am(PDT) <BR> Re: Who would be the Next C.M of T.N- My Attempt Part 1/2.<BR> <BR> Dear Shri.Raghunatha Rao,<BR> I have not found fault with your predictions. Since many different charts of the celebrities are in circulation , in the instant case I found that the only convergent point among all Astrologers in the pray is Janma nakshtra .. Hence I relayed my final predictions on the principles of Pancha Pakshi sastra .As predicted the DMK have won 96 seats and fell short of 22 seats for forming its own indipendant Government with its own absolute majority.<BR> What I meant by my predictions has been explained as referred to above.Thank you very much for seeking my clarifications.<BR> With regards,<BR> D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.<BR> P.S. I am in USA.<BR> <BR> Raghunatha RaoNemani wrote: Om Krishna Guru<BR> <BR> Namaste Gupta Ji,<BR> <BR> Thanks for the note and also for the Pancha Pakshi Shastra analysis.<BR> With due respect to you, your Pakshi analysis is not fully completed <BR> hence the result you got was incorrect. When time is right and when <BR> I get permission from Guru Ji, then I shall write some details about <BR> this later.<BR> <BR> Meanwhile, if you are still living in USA,then call me during my <BR> lunch hour, then I will explain the pieces which you have not <BR> considered in your analysis.<BR> <BR> As you know, I am still a beginner in Jyotish and a lot to learn and <BR> with your blessings I will to stay focused on my studies in Jyotish. <BR> <BR> Regards<BR> Raghunatha Rao<BR> <BR> vedic astrology, Sathiyanarayana Gupta <BR> wrote:<BR> <BR> Sathiyanarayana Gupta <BR> Wed May 10, 2006 9:47 pm <BR> Re: Who would be the Next C.M of T.N- My Attempt Part 1/2. <BR> <BR> Dear Raghunatha Rao,<BR> I understand from your analysis that Dr.M.Karunanithi ji and <BR> Dr.J.Jayalalitha were born in Mrigasira and Magha Nakshatra <BR> respectively . Therefore it would be appropriate to relay on "Pakshi" <BR> sastra than on their natal charts. Eagle is inactive on <BR> Thursdays,which is the pakshi for Dr.M.Karunanithi, hence he may not<BR> attain required majority for forming his Government. <BR> <BR> Dr.J.Jayalalitha's pakshi is owl which is active after 8.17 am <BR> IST.The counting of votes had already began in India as per their <BR> Calender Thursday the 11th May 2006 at 7.00 am [now our<BR> EST10.02 pm = IST 7.32 am].<BR> <BR> Let us wait and see the actual results.<BR> <BR> With regards,<BR> D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.<BR> <BR> ------- original message ---<BR> <BR> Raghunatha RaoNemani wrote: Om Krishna Guru<BR> <BR> Namaste KarunaKaram Ji and All,<BR> <BR> Many have already attempted the analysis and I would like to see <BR> from<BR> point of view too. So here is my attempt.<BR> <BR> I have considered the following birth details for the two candidates<BR> and giving my analysis. 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Great rates starting at 1¢/min.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 3 <BR> "P Kumar" pkumar24 <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 9:15am(PDT) <BR> Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!!<BR> <BR> I agree 100%. Apart from astrology, moral uprightness is of very high value<BR> and we should respect such persons, always. I too know Shri K.N.Rao<BR> personally, follow him astrologically and respect him for his ethically high<BR> values.<BR> <BR> P.Kumar (Mumbai)<BR> <BR> -<BR> "sreeram srinivas" <BR> <BR> Cc: "'Noname Noname'" ; "Renuka Prematillake"<BR> <BR> Friday, May 12, 2006 2:12 PM<BR> [vedic astrology] RE: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!!<BR> <BR> <BR> > Sri K.N.Rao is a person from whom I learnt the holy subject and respect<BR> > him. Having interacted with him for long, I am sure that the telecast<BR> that<BR> > you referred in your mail - which I did not see ( but cannot comment<BR> much ),<BR> > one thing is sure, that the words spoken by Sri K.N. Rao would not be in<BR> > terms of any "fatalist" tone. He is the person who has excellent<BR> command<BR> > either hindi or english and knows the use of language- he picks his words<BR> > carefully. This is my own assessement as an individual. He never sought<BR> > publicity himself - other than promoting astrology. For the "clout" he<BR> has<BR> > with either politicians or businessmen or even normal public, had he any<BR> > intentions of such "going public", he would not living in a small single<BR> > room, living on his own monies & ethics,...etc..<BR> ><BR> > While I say this, let me submit, being in a industry - where<BR> "organizations"<BR> > base their decisions of our(my) reports either verbal or written, we are<BR> > not carried away in supporting someone blindly without a valid reason.<BR> It<BR> > is the media responsible for painting astrology black, while they earn<BR> > monies, by publishing weekly forecasts for public consumption !!! every<BR> > weekend. Sri K.N. Rao despite his health constraints, did take time to<BR> > fight cases in Indian Courts including Supreme Court in favor of<BR> astrology -<BR> > is it public stunt ??? When no other "Titled" astrologer worth his name,<BR> > engaged in selling his knowledge has time or energy to defend it when it<BR> > needed most - or is this a public stunt ???<BR> ><BR> > I think it is time that we need to base our opinions not on single words<BR> or<BR> > sentences of a person, but take a holistic view of everything and then<BR> > conclude. I am sure you will agree with me on this !!<BR> ><BR> > Reproducing the article published on Sri K.N. Rao's website for ready<BR> > reference.<BR> ><BR> > with regards,<BR> ><BR> > sreeram srinivas<BR> ><BR> > sreeram64 (AT) satyam (DOT) net.in<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > Kunjilal the astrologer<BR> ><BR> > who predicted his own death but failed<BR> ><BR> > K.N.Rao.<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > On 20 October some private television channels covered extensively a<BR> > peculiar news item. An astrologer of Madhya Pradesh by the name Kunjilal<BR> had<BR> > predicted that he would die on 20 October 2005 between 3 and 4 pm. TV<BR> > cameras were showing him, his family members and the crowds that had<BR> > gathered to see it near a temple inside which Kunjilal was shown<BR> meditating<BR> > with his eyes closed.<BR> ><BR> > I was asked by India's number one television channel, AAJ TAK, to<BR> > participate in a live coverage along with a psychologist and a<BR> "rationalist"<BR> > participating from Calcutta.<BR> ><BR> > I said that I wanted some details about the horoscope of Kunjilal which<BR> > could not be got . The only information available was that he was born on<BR> 20<BR> > October 1930 at Betul with Tula lagna. The approximate horoscope cast on<BR> > this basis was as follows.<BR> ><BR> ><BR> > Why the "rationalist "?<BR> ><BR> > I asked privately why had they invited a so called "rationalist" when<BR> these<BR> > fellows and physical scientists who had been shouting against astrology,<BR> > dominating the English newspapers of India and the television channels<BR> with<BR> > their irrational attacks on astrology since ages had lost three legal<BR> > battles in the last three years.<BR> ><BR> > Madras High Court<BR> ><BR> > First they filed a case against the introduction astrology as a subject of<BR> > study in Madras High Court where they had all the opportunity to argue<BR> > against astrology. IT IS ALSO A DISGRACE<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > <BR> ><BR> > THAT NO HINDU ASTROLOGER WHO SWEARS BY EIGHTEEN RISHIS EVEN APPEARED AS A<BR> > PETITIONER IN PERSON TO DEFEND ASTROLOGY.<BR> ><BR> > But astrology won the case in Madras High Court.<BR> ><BR> ><BR> > Andhra High Court<BR> ><BR> > Then the case came up in the Andhra High Court where again astrologers won<BR> > the case. IT IS ALSO A DISGRACE THAT NO HINDU ASTROLOGER WHO SWEARS BY<BR> > EIGHTEEN RISHIS EVEN APPEARED AS A PETITIONER IN PERSON TO DEFEND<BR> ASTROLOGY.<BR> ><BR> > The Supreme Court of India<BR> ><BR> > The case came up in the Supreme Court of India where it was admitted to be<BR> > heard on merits which was good for astrology as, if we won it, the<BR> > controversy would be over for ever. I was ailing then and was not sure if<BR> I<BR> > could sit in the Supreme Court for three hours at a stretch and could walk<BR> > comfortably in the premises of the Supreme Court.<BR> ><BR> > Many astrologers can speak and write in English and could have filed<BR> > petitions in the Supreme Court. NONE DID IT. I WAS THE ONLY ASTROLOGER<BR> > FIGHTING THE CASE WITH MY AILING CONDITION.<BR> ><BR> ><BR> > I argued the case effectively and astrology won the case.<BR> ><BR> > Why are the so called "rationalists" shouting now when the physical<BR> > scientists have been lying low, having been beaten hollow three times now?<BR> ><BR> > What have these so called "rationalists" to say now except mouthing their<BR> > ignorance which have been rejected by the courts thrice ? It was time for<BR> us<BR> > 11 astrologers to laugh at and ridicule those communists, physical<BR> > scientists and the "rationalists" who in collusion with fellow travellers<BR> > and<BR> > pseudo intellectuals in English journalism , for full four years between<BR> > 2000 and 2004, wrote and said on television that introduction of astrology<BR> > would amount to encouraging superstition. These denationalised and<BR> > despiritualised Indians were those dangerous apes who for the time being<BR> > seemed to be winning the debate and the battle till three courts dealt<BR> them<BR> > mortal blows one after another and showed them their place. Now when they<BR> > see some cultural-religious-spirtual-astrological themes dominating some<BR> > television programmes, they feel helpless and ex-press their impotent<BR> rage.<BR> > While physical scientists have to be on their guard because they think<BR> that<BR> > they have a "prestige" to guard, the "rationalists" can afford to behave<BR> > buffoonishly.<BR> ><BR> > But television channels want some sensation and they gave chance to so<BR> > called "rationalist" who at no stage had anything intelligent to say. I<BR> knew<BR> > that I had to suffer it and tolerate only so long as my patience would<BR> hold<BR> > out.<BR> ><BR> > What I said<BR> ><BR> > 1) I started by saying that it was unethical to do what Kunjilal was<BR> doing,<BR> > creating so much tension for his family, particularly for his wife who was<BR> > shown in her semi-rustic dress praying to Lord Hanuman, as she said, on<BR> > Karuva Chauth which fell on 20 October 2005. For those who do not know it,<BR> > Karuva Chauth is observed by married women in northern India for the long<BR> > life of their husbands. These women fast whole of the day, pray, and break<BR> > their fast only after seeing the Moon after sunset.<BR> ><BR> ><BR> > It was an ironical situation now. If Kunjilal died, his astrology would<BR> > triumph.If he survived, people would say that his wife's Karva Chauth<BR> saved<BR> > her husband !!!<BR> ><BR> > 2) I said that there were instances of such advance predictions made by<BR> > astrologers about their own death. But they had foretold about the bad<BR> years<BR> > and months of their lives at most and not the precise day and hour as<BR> > Kunjilal was doing.<BR> ><BR> > 3) Kunjilal may have made his own calculations and could be running the<BR> > dasha of Mercury which being the seventh dasha could be a maraka.<BR> Television<BR> > channels were saying that he had predicted correctly the time of the death<BR> > of many persons including his own father's who was also an astrologer.<BR> ><BR> > PSYCHIATRIC TREATMENT<BR> ><BR> > 4) Towards the end when the "rationalist" uttered something irrational<BR> half<BR> > of which I could hear feebly because of some technical fault, and would<BR> not<BR> > have known if the anchor had not repeated it, I said , rather harshly,<BR> that<BR> > those who, without studying astrology scientifically, criticise it, should<BR> > get themselves examined by pychiaritsts.<BR> ><BR> ><BR> > The last remark of mine must have irritated all those who had carried on a<BR> > vigorous campaign against astrology particularly in the English print<BR> media<BR> > of India between 2000 and 2004 May after which the Supreme Court finally<BR> > gave its verdict in favour of astrology. But one journalist did misquote<BR> me<BR> > and said that I had felt strongly that it was possible. I heard two times<BR> > the CD of that telecast. I never said that.<BR> ><BR> > The last laugh was mine, this time in a live television show watched by<BR> > millions in India. I had asked critics of astrology to get themselves<BR> > treated mentally.<BR> ><BR> > Kunjilal did not die and has done some damage to the cause of astrology by<BR> > miscalculating the time of his own death and making such a big show of it..<BR> > He did not at all appear to be a gimmick maker but a genuine, gentle and<BR> > successful astrologer dreading death by misapplying his own astrology to<BR> > himself. He started perspiring when it was nearing 4.pm which means that<BR> he<BR> > had believed that he would die that day.<BR> ><BR> > But he was a relieved man later when he survived his own bad prediction ,<BR> > but had done damage to his own reputation and to astrology.<BR> ><BR> > That does not matter. All of us have some failed predictions. Astrology is<BR> a<BR> > super science and astrologers are ill trained because of which instead of<BR> > concentrating on good researches they play God and prescribe remedies as<BR> > though they can perform plastic surgery on human fate.<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > _____<BR> ><BR> > vedic astrology<BR> > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Tatvam-Asi<BR> > Friday, May 12, 2006 12:21 AM<BR> > vedic astrology<BR> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC<BR> CLUES<BR> > !!!<BR> ><BR> ><BR> > Dear Arjun Ji,<BR> > Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions?<BR> > A bit curious.<BR> ><BR> > K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing the<BR> > astrologer's chart.<BR> > And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and may die at<BR> > predicted time.<BR> ><BR> > Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no answer to<BR> > this question.<BR> ><BR> > Tatvam-Asi<BR> ><BR> > By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity seeker<BR> > IMHO.<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > <BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > Archives: <a href="vedic astrology">vedic astrology</a><BR> ><BR> > Group info: <a href="vedic astrology/info.html">vedic astrology/info.html</a><BR> ><BR> > <BR> ><BR> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......<BR> ><BR> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||<BR> > Links<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 4 <BR> "" gg_0202 (AT) (DOT) co.in<BR> Fri May 12, 2006 9:15am(PDT) <BR> A Request to All members!!!<BR> <BR> ||Jai Ramakrishna||<BR> Dear Learned Members,<BR> Almost two weeks have passed after the death of Shree Pramod <BR> Mahajan, still i find the members keep themselves busy in discussing <BR> about his charts, accusing each other for making wrong predictions, <BR> while others eulogise any Particular Astrologer. I am not cursing <BR> any prediction nor I am criticising any wrong predictions ...for <BR> Astrologers are not GOD....<BR> I think its futile to discuss about the death of Pramod Mahajan or <BR> teh next CM of TN..etc...<BR> Mailing with puzzle charts will not only benefit the person who is <BR> posting, but also it will be a good homework who are aspiring to be <BR> astrologers in their future....Moreover I find that there are more <BR> charts lying in the message list who are seeking help...<BR> I hope revered scholars will not mind this request from refraining <BR> themeselves about discussing Pramod Mahajan's chart or next cm of tn <BR> etc....<BR> Wish all success,<BR> <BR> <a href="http://gauravastro.blogspot.com">http://gauravastro.blogspot.com</a><BR> P.S.:---All members are requested not to send me too many private <BR> messages from this time onwards, as I dont have time to reply them. <BR> However, they can chat with me through messenger, if they wish. I <BR> would rather recommen them to post their problem/query to this list, <BR> for their are learned scholars here...<BR> .<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 5 <BR> "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 9:37am(PDT) <BR> Re: A Request to All members!!! Ghosh Babu,<BR> <BR> Pramod Mahajan case I can understand but why Next CM of TN ?<BR> M.K Karunanidhi has not yet assumes office.<BR> We need to discuss what went wrong in predicting win for Madam. <BR> This is a live case still.<BR> <BR> <BR> wrote:<BR> ||Jai Ramakrishna||<BR> Dear Learned Members,<BR> Almost two weeks have passed after the death of Shree Pramod <BR> Mahajan, still i find the members keep themselves busy in discussing <BR> about his charts, accusing each other for making wrong predictions, <BR> while others eulogise any Particular Astrologer. I am not cursing <BR> any prediction nor I am criticising any wrong predictions ...for <BR> Astrologers are not GOD....<BR> I think its futile to discuss about the death of Pramod Mahajan or <BR> teh next CM of TN..etc...<BR> Mailing with puzzle charts will not only benefit the person who is <BR> posting, but also it will be a good homework who are aspiring to be <BR> astrologers in their future....Moreover I find that there are more <BR> charts lying in the message list who are seeking help...<BR> I hope revered scholars will not mind this request from refraining <BR> themeselves about discussing Pramod Mahajan's chart or next cm of tn <BR> etc....<BR> Wish all success,<BR> <BR> <a href="http://gauravastro.blogspot.com">http://gauravastro.blogspot.com</a><BR> P.S.:---All members are requested not to send me too many private <BR> messages from this time onwards, as I dont have time to reply them. <BR> However, they can chat with me through messenger, if they wish. 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Get it on your phone.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 6 <BR> "avin6dl" avin6dl <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 10:55am(PDT) <BR> Please help this native --second post !<BR> <BR> Dear Members,<BR> <BR> A friend of mine is going through very very tough times and it would be <BR> extremely helpful if someone can have a look at her birth chart and <BR> suggest something. Her details are:<BR> <BR> DOB : 10/14/1970<BR> Time: 8:38am<BR> Location: Hammond Indiana <BR> Latitude : 41 30 N<BR> Long : 87 30 W<BR> <BR> Any advise or analysis will be very useful and highly appreciated.<BR> <BR> Thanks in advance,<BR> -Avin<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 7 <BR> "sukanta mahakhuda" suks400 <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 11:19am(PDT) <BR> Trouble in job/Need suggestion<BR> <BR> Jai radheshyam,<BR> <BR> I Sukant a new member to the group.<BR> <BR> My life has been troublesome for last few years.But last March(2006) was one of the harshest.so now I am very apprehensive of my future.<BR> I was working in an MNC as a computer engineer, but lost my job within 3.5 months.<BR> But somehow I got to manage to get ajob again.<BR> I want to from you expert that whether I wil be able to continue this job smoothly or is there any obstacle to it.If so what remedy should I follow?Please give some suggestion.<BR> <BR> My date of birth: 27 - 06 - 1974<BR> Time : 10.05 AM<BR> Place of Birth : Sonepur,Orissa<BR> <BR> Thank you<BR> Sukant<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 8 <BR> "mohitslovein" mohitvirmani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com<BR> Fri May 12, 2006 11:20am(PDT) <BR> Re: need advice on neechbhanga rajyayoga<BR> <BR> hello sir as seeing ur horoscope seeing that 8th house is strong as <BR> lord of 8th house is connected wit lot of planets in ur horoscope as u <BR> see ur sani lord of third and fourth house is in 8th and guru wit rahu <BR> seeing eight and lord of 8th house is in 1st house and inter change wit <BR> 11th house in as lord of 9th house and 7th nad 12th lord and lord of <BR> 1st house and 6th house in that only lord of 10th ouse is in 12 in <BR> neech so i dont his maha dasha but he wil go in lot of ups and down as <BR> 8th house is hidden house and unexpected gain and losses it wil give <BR> result as per his mahadasha and antra dasha any way bye take care <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 9 <BR> "n_akoch" n_akoch <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 11:20am(PDT) <BR> Re: Pramod<BR> <BR> -<BR> Dear Haizen , could you please send me the article and your <BR> analysis ?<BR> <BR> thanks, and regards,<BR> <BR> N. Koch<BR> -- In vedic astrology, "haizen" wrote:<BR> ><BR> > Hello:<BR> > <BR> > I will be sending out the article privately as soon as I've <BR> > finished adding more material and proofing it. The new <BR> > section is, "What indicates Pravin's anger in Pramod's <BR> > chart?" I feel these transits are a quite revealing, and <BR> > this means going back a few days before the tragic <BR> > event. In the meantime, please forgive the delay and I<BR> > hope to send it out within the next 24 hours. <BR> > <BR> > Sincerely, Haizen Paige<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <BR> <BR> wrote:<BR> > ><BR> > > Dear Haizen,<BR> > > Please send me the said article. I shall feel indebted.<BR> > > <BR> > > P.Kumar (Mumbai)<BR> > > <BR> > > -<BR> > > "haizen" <BR> > > <BR> > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:57 PM<BR> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction <BR> on Pramod<BR> > > Mahajan/Doubts<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > Hello to all:<BR> > > <BR> > > Two days ago I completed my own detailed analysis of the<BR> > > Vrisha chart KN Rao received from R.S. Pawar and prefers, and I<BR> > > am willing to share it privately with those who are interested<BR> > > in getting at the astrological roots of this unexpected loss. I<BR> > > did the analysis to test out the chart for myself and it works<BR> > > excellently; plus it brings out a number of significant points<BR> > > of tension between Mr. Mahajan and his younger brother. I<BR> > > would not have shared this analysis publicly while he was alive<BR> > > out of deference to his family and friends, but I have found it<BR> > > instructive to bring understanding to this tragedy after the <BR> fact.<BR> > > His chart is one of few exceptions I've made when it comes to<BR> > > looking at the rashi chakras of contemporary political figures:<BR> > > he was not the usual politician.<BR> > > <BR> > > Put "Pramod" in the subject line of your request. Article will be<BR> > > sent as a "Word" document. I am not connected with KN Rao, but I<BR> > > think he might find this analysis of interest if he ever comes <BR> upon<BR> > > it.<BR> > > <BR> > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige<BR> > > Sedona, AZ, USA<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi"<BR> > > <BR> > > wrote:<BR> > > ><BR> > > > Hi Shashi Shekhar,<BR> > > ><BR> > > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I<BR> > > > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly <BR> and with<BR> > > > humility without bothering about the eminence of the <BR> astrologer who<BR> > > > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by <BR> eminent<BR> > > > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without <BR> checking<BR> > > > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't <BR> go<BR> > > > wrong).<BR> > > ><BR> > > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.<BR> > > ><BR> > > ><BR> > > > Regards,<BR> > > > Jyothi<BR> > > ><BR> > > ><BR> > > ><BR> > > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma<BR> > > > <BR> wrote:<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > .HARE RAM.<BR> > > > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,<BR> > > > > Saadar Charan<BR> > > > Sparsha!<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > He is my <BR> second Guru<BR> > > > in astrology but like Aacharya<BR> > > > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him <BR> before<BR> > > > while i am resident<BR> > > > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves<BR> > > > knowledge so a have some<BR> > > > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want <BR> to keep<BR> > > > before him.I hope kind<BR> > > > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us <BR> the<BR> > > > reason according to<BR> > > > > Vrishabh Lagana.<BR> > > > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we<BR> > > > predict that this native had a<BR> > > > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own <BR> house.<BR> > > > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while <BR> the 8th<BR> > > > lord sitted in own house,<BR> > > > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be <BR> soft, 7th<BR> > > > lord is in own sign.<BR> > > > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger <BR> brother?<BR> > > > Karak of 3rd house<BR> > > > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of <BR> same<BR> > > > house is sitted with Lagan<BR> > > > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of <BR> Karak<BR> > > > nor the lord of 3rd house<BR> > > > > Moon was running at the time of incident.<BR> > > > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request <BR> to Sh.<BR> > > > Rao jee through you if<BR> > > > > these are baseless,please ignore them and <BR> forgive me.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > With Due Regards<BR> > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma<BR> > > > Mobile-09818310075<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > Kaartik Gor wrote:<BR> > > > > Om Sai Ram<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > KN RAO Sir is a legend and his silence did say a lot to <BR> people who<BR> > > > know him.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > Like always he shows the way to everyone.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > God bless him !!!<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > regards,<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > KG<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > Vishal Bhatia wrote:<BR> > > > > Pramod Mahajan<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > K.N.Rao.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > On 22 April, a Saturday, when I was going to the Bharatiya <BR> Vidya<BR> > > > Bhawan, I got from R.S. Pawar, the co author of the book on<BR> > > > Dwadashottari Dasha, the horoscope of Pramod Mahajan along <BR> with the<BR> > > > degrees dictated to me while we were in a car. Presuming it to <BR> be<BR> > > > correct, it was put on the board in the class which has two <BR> doctors<BR> > > > also. I told the class that I saw it as a hopeless case if the<BR> > > > horoscope was correct. One male doctor said that there existed <BR> some<BR> > > > hope because the lungs and heart were not affected while a lady<BR> > > > doctor said that it was difficult case.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > Back home, I was bombarded with different horoscopes, most <BR> of them<BR> > > > preferring Mithuna lagna, while one went on to even Simha <BR> lagna with<BR> > > > the date of birth being different, 27 October 1948. The date 27<BR> > > > October was given to me by a Maharastrian woman living in <BR> Calcutta<BR> > > > who said that it was got from an astrologer of Maharastra who <BR> had<BR> > > > this horoscope in his possession and had made predictions for <BR> the<BR> > > > Mahajan family on this horoscope.That astrologer predicted <BR> recovery<BR> > > > after April. So it was a case of confusion worse confounded.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > In different television programmes most of them showed <BR> Mithuna<BR> > > > lagna and said that if he survived 27 and 28 of April , <BR> Mahajan would<BR> > > > survive. Another astrologer using the same data but Vrischika <BR> lagna<BR> > > > also said that if, Pramod Mahajan survived the last few days of<BR> > > > April, he would survive and become the most important leader <BR> of the<BR> > > > BJP.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > Then on different websites almost everyone seemed to prefer <BR> Mithuna<BR> > > > lagna and all of them repeated the same prediction of it being <BR> fatal<BR> > > > in the last days of April and survival later, even a much <BR> greater<BR> > > > future than he had had so far.<BR> > > > > During the days the Pramod Mahajan tragedy was being <BR> discussed in<BR> > > > the media, particularly by the television media, I received the<BR> > > > following email from Switzerland and see my reply.<BR> > > > > ====================================<BR> > > > > "Vijayadas,Pradeep Kumar"<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > "knrao"<BR> > > > > Pramod Mahajan<BR> > > > > Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:42:58 IST<BR> > > > > Dear K.N.Raoji<BR> > > > > Is it about Moon a Maraka transiting 12th from/on to lagna <BR> during<BR> > > > the said 2 days.In natal chart Moon is with lagna lord and <BR> aspected<BR> > > > by saturn in transit.(Is saturn 22nd drekkana lord) Another <BR> maraka<BR> > > > jupiter is also aspecting lagna from transit position.<BR> > > > > Respect<BR> > > > > Pradeep<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > knrao Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44<BR> > > > > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar<BR> > > > > Re: Pramod Mahajan<BR> > > > > Pradeep,<BR> > > > > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with the<BR> > > > following details seem to be reliable:<BR> > > > > 30 Oct 948 / 19/51 /Mahboobnagar<BR> > > > > Lagna Vrisha 17/39<BR> > > > > Moon in Kanya 21/35<BR> > > > > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April <BR> he can<BR> > > > drag on for four months at most if this horoscope is correct.<BR> > > > > K.N.Rao<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 Vijayadas,Pradeep<BR> > > > > Kumar wrote :<BR> > > > > Dear K.N.Raoji<BR> > > > > Do you have the horoscope of shri Pramod Mahajan.<BR> > > > > Respect<BR> > > > > Pradeep<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > At no stage I saw any chances of the survival of Mahajan on <BR> the<BR> > > > basis of the horoscope I had before me. I had no reason to <BR> doubt it<BR> > > > as some of the events of his life are verifiable from this <BR> horoscope<BR> > > > including his educational pattern.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > I was aware that as many as five horoscopes were in <BR> circulation and<BR> > > > some television channels desperate to be the "first" to cover <BR> it from<BR> > > > all angles , including the strological<BR> > > > > analysis, approached many astrologers. I was approached by <BR> some<BR> > > > channels but I refused to appear in any television show . I <BR> did not<BR> > > > want to cause any pain to the family of Pramod Mahajan which <BR> had been<BR> > > > in deep agony during all these days. In fact, while a Hindi<BR> > > > television channel showed a woman anchor talk aggressively of <BR> it<BR> > > > being very fatal when water from the kidneys of Mahajan was <BR> being<BR> > > > removed on 27 April, an English channel showed in a rather <BR> cultured<BR> > > > way a correspondent saying that a request had been received <BR> from the<BR> > > > family of Mahajan not to overplay it as fatal. It was clear <BR> from this<BR> > > > that India's private television channels will never learn to be<BR> > > > cultured.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > There is so much awkardness and delicacy in discussing <BR> openly the<BR> > > > impending death of someone in glaring news. It is not the <BR> first time<BR> > > > that many astrologers have claimed that they have got the <BR> horoscopes<BR> > > > from most reliable "family sources". Majority of them stuck to<BR> > > > Mithuna lagna and predicted recovery.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > But what a student passed on to me with Vrisha lagna <BR> appealed to me<BR> > > > as correct and I privately predicted to friends that it was <BR> not a<BR> > > > case of recovery and, at most, it could drag on only for a <BR> week or<BR> > > > fortnight. I saw no chance of recovery at all. It is what I had<BR> > > > written to Pradeep on 24 April.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > I am surprised at astrologers who cannot see the rise of <BR> Mahajan in<BR> > > > the dasha of Saturn the tenth lord from Vrisha lagna. Why are <BR> they<BR> > > > sticking to Mithuna and predicting recovery?<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > See for instance the period of his rise. In Chara dasha it <BR> would be<BR> > > > the dasha of Vrischika with an excellent eleventh house <BR> containing<BR> > > > the Amatyakaraka and period of his amassing wealth also. In <BR> Vrischika-<BR> > > > Meena- Karka in 1996 with Mars aspecting the tenth house he <BR> was even<BR> > > > Defence Minister for a brief period during the ill fated 13 <BR> days<BR> > > > government of Atal Behari Vajpai.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > From Tula Kumbha 3 July 2003 with Amatyakaraka falling in the<BR> > > > eighth house he failed with his India Shining slogan and the <BR> NDA<BR> > > > government and BJP fell from power. TV predictions of some<BR> > > > astrologers Almost all astrologers said that the transit of <BR> Moon in<BR> > > > Mesha could be fatal but all of them added that if he survived <BR> that,<BR> > > > he would recover.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > With so many combinations for fatality present even from <BR> Mithuna<BR> > > > lagna, how was Mahajan's survival seen ?<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > From Vrisha lagna, the inevitable was visible more easily. I <BR> had a<BR> > > > different view it will be Saturn- Rahu-Mercury which was <BR> rather bad.<BR> > > > But to say, that he would recover after that appeared <BR> impossible to<BR> > > > me. And ofcourse Moon in Mesha is a signal of danger. And <BR> later Moon<BR> > > > in Mithuna would be equally dangerous as it would aspect the<BR> > > > Karakamsha and also the pada of the eighth lord together with <BR> Mars.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > The period that would continue after will not be less fatal. <BR> There<BR> > > > was no chance of a recovery at all. It was prudent to avoid<BR> > > > television channels and discuss the available horoscope of <BR> Mahajan<BR> > > > quietly in our astrological circles, I decided.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > As in the case of news in general so too in the case of <BR> Mahajan,<BR> > > > balanced news coverage<BR> > > > > was available only in the Doordarshan which is government<BR> > > > controlled and has a tradition of dignity, news sense <BR> presented by<BR> > > > mature and experience journalists.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > ASTROLOGICAL ANALYSIS<BR> > > > > The analysis we had arrived at was the following.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > Vimshottari dasha<BR> > > > > In Vimshottari dasha it is Saturn-Rahu-Mercury from 6 <BR> January 2006<BR> > > > to 3 June 2006 and Mercury here is the second lord and maraka.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > Chara dasha<BR> > > > > The picture is clearer in Jaimini's Chara Dasha in which it <BR> is<BR> > > > Kanya which contains both the Atmakaraka and the Karakamsha. <BR> The<BR> > > > antardasha is Mesha from 31 May 2005 to 31 May 2006. This is <BR> eighth<BR> > > > from Karakamsha and fatal.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > In Sthira dasha<BR> > > > > The picture is equally depressing in Jaimini Sthira dasha.. <BR> It is<BR> > > > Mesha Mesha upto 5 May 2006. So no hope can he held out. May 5 <BR> is<BR> > > > like a distant date now.This is eighth from Karakamsha and <BR> fatal .<BR> > > > Mesha is eighth from Karakamsha and Atmakaraka and from here,<BR> > > > Bhartikaraka, Mars is in the eighth house showing the brother <BR> being<BR> > > > in trouble. Mesha antardasha is aspected by Mars and Saturn <BR> showing<BR> > > > the violent incident.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > The transit of the day<BR> > > > > Both the lagna lord Venus and Moon are in Kanya on which <BR> Ketu has<BR> > > > been transitting and now Saturn from Karka and Mars from <BR> Mithuna are<BR> > > > aspecting it showing the dangerous event clearly. The fifth <BR> house<BR> > > > from Vrisha represents the stomach region, as a student <BR> pointed out.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > Tajak<BR> > > > > A colleague in the Institute of Astrology, Bharatiya Vidya <BR> Bhawan,<BR> > > > Sri Saxena, worked on the Tajak of Pramod Mahajan and told me <BR> that<BR> > > > the conclusion I had come to, of it being the end of <BR> everything for<BR> > > > Mahajan, was confirmed through the annual horoscope also. Here <BR> Mars<BR> > > > in the fifth house aspecting Saturn in the eighth is ominous <BR> enough<BR> > > > and Saturn is the third lord also. Here Muntha is in the <BR> second house<BR> > > > aspected by Saturn and the lord of Muntha, Saturn is in the <BR> eighth<BR> > > > house aspected by Mars. The fatal picture drawn from <BR> Vimshottari and<BR> > > > Jaimini's Chara dasha is corroborated.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > Bhrigu approach<BR> > > > > As I was writing this, S. S.dropped in and I asked him to <BR> give a<BR> > > > Bhrigu analysis presuming the data to be accurate. SS has been <BR> doing<BR> > > > some remarkable researches in Bhrigu and wants to remain <BR> anynymous<BR> > > > for some personal reasons. He did it and said that nothing was <BR> good<BR> > > > and there was no hope.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > I decided to post this piece in the first week of May, as in <BR> Sthira<BR> > > > dasha, the fatal period is upto 5 May.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > NOTE<BR> > > > > I had told a BJP leader of middle level about a political<BR> > > > assassination a week before the tragedy of Mahajan and I will<BR> > > > disclose it later.<BR> > > > > (Written in parts between 25 April and 2 May 2006)<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > THE PREDICTION OF THE ASSASSINATION OF A POLITICAL LEADER<BR> > > > > K.N.Rao.<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > The horoscope of BJP must reflect and it is here that I must <BR> tell<BR> > > > readers that I had made a prediction that there would be the<BR> > > > assassination of a leader soon. These are very confidential<BR> > > > predictions and so sensitive that I do not want anyone other <BR> than the<BR> > > > person to whom I tell it, to even get an inkling of it.<BR> > > > > See the letter below:<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > To<BR> > > > > Prof K.N.Rao.<BR> > > > > FEROZE VARUN GANDHI<BR> > > > > Dear Guruji,<BR> > > > > I was deeply shocked to hear of the misfortune that had <BR> befallen<BR> > > > Pramodji. I remembered the prediction made to me a week <BR> earlier that<BR> > > > a major assassination of a political leader would take place <BR> soon. I<BR> > > > have been thinking about your prediction and several others <BR> made by<BR> > > > you over the last year. The accuracy of them continues to <BR> astound me.<BR> > > > > Yours sincerely,<BR> > > > > Varun<BR> > > > > 27/4/2006<BR> > > > ><BR> > > > ><BR> > > > > Subsequent to this, I received many phones from many people <BR> asking<BR> > > > me what was my prediction about Pramod Mahajan. 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May Jupiter's light shine on us .......<BR> > > <BR> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||<BR> > > Links<BR> > ><BR> ><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 10 <BR> "shashi shekhar sharma" polite_astro <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 11:20am(PDT) <BR> Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on Pramod Mahajan/Doubts<BR> <BR> ..HARE RAM.<BR> Dear Jyoti,<BR> Thanks for your compliments.In fact Respected Sh.K N Rao Jee is the <BR> living legend and our pride truly.He represents India in the world regarding <BR> vedic astrology undoubtedly.<BR> Why had i placed my doubts before him? so that we may improve our<BR> knowledge as much as we can under the guidance of such the learned<BR> person.In fact we are really lucky that such the esteemed personality<BR> is among us.God may live him long. <BR> <BR> With all the best wishes<BR> Shashi Shekhar Sharma<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> jyothi_b_lakshmi wrote:<BR> Hi Shashi Shekhar,<BR> <BR> Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I <BR> appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and with <BR> humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer who <BR> made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent <BR> astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without checking <BR> it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go <BR> wrong). <BR> <BR> I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.<BR> <BR> <BR> Regards,<BR> Jyothi<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma <BR> <BR> wrote:<BR> ><BR> > .HARE RAM.<BR> > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,<BR> > Saadar Charan <BR> Sparsha!<BR> > <BR> > He is my second Guru <BR> in astrology but like Aacharya<BR> > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him before <BR> while i am resident <BR> > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves <BR> knowledge so a have some<BR> > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to keep <BR> before him.I hope kind<BR> > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the <BR> reason according to<BR> > Vrishabh Lagana.<BR> > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we <BR> predict that this native had a<BR> > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own house.<BR> > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the 8th <BR> lord sitted in own house,<BR> > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft, 7th <BR> lord is in own sign.<BR> > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger brother? <BR> Karak of 3rd house<BR> > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same <BR> house is sitted with Lagan<BR> > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak <BR> nor the lord of 3rd house <BR> > Moon was running at the time of incident.<BR> > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to Sh. <BR> Rao jee through you if <BR> > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive me.<BR> > <BR> > With Due Regards<BR> > Shashi Shekhar Sharma <BR> Mobile-09818310075<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Kaartik Gor wrote:<BR> > Om Sai Ram<BR> > <BR> > KN RAO Sir is a legend and his silence did say a lot to people who <BR> know him.<BR> > <BR> > Like always he shows the way to everyone.<BR> > <BR> > God bless him !!!<BR> > <BR> > regards,<BR> > <BR> > KG<BR> > <BR> > Vishal Bhatia wrote:<BR> > Pramod Mahajan<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > K.N.Rao.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > On 22 April, a Saturday, when I was going to the Bharatiya Vidya <BR> Bhawan, I got from R.S. Pawar, the co author of the book on <BR> Dwadashottari Dasha, the horoscope of Pramod Mahajan along with the <BR> degrees dictated to me while we were in a car. Presuming it to be <BR> correct, it was put on the board in the class which has two doctors <BR> also. I told the class that I saw it as a hopeless case if the <BR> horoscope was correct. One male doctor said that there existed some <BR> hope because the lungs and heart were not affected while a lady <BR> doctor said that it was difficult case.<BR> > <BR> > Back home, I was bombarded with different horoscopes, most of them <BR> preferring Mithuna lagna, while one went on to even Simha lagna with <BR> the date of birth being different, 27 October 1948. The date 27 <BR> October was given to me by a Maharastrian woman living in Calcutta <BR> who said that it was got from an astrologer of Maharastra who had <BR> this horoscope in his possession and had made predictions for the <BR> Mahajan family on this horoscope.That astrologer predicted recovery <BR> after April. So it was a case of confusion worse confounded.<BR> > <BR> > In different television programmes most of them showed Mithuna <BR> lagna and said that if he survived 27 and 28 of April , Mahajan would <BR> survive. Another astrologer using the same data but Vrischika lagna <BR> also said that if, Pramod Mahajan survived the last few days of <BR> April, he would survive and become the most important leader of the <BR> BJP.<BR> > <BR> > Then on different websites almost everyone seemed to prefer Mithuna <BR> lagna and all of them repeated the same prediction of it being fatal <BR> in the last days of April and survival later, even a much greater <BR> future than he had had so far.<BR> > During the days the Pramod Mahajan tragedy was being discussed in <BR> the media, particularly by the television media, I received the <BR> following email from Switzerland and see my reply.<BR> > ====================================<BR> > "Vijayadas,Pradeep Kumar"<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > "knrao" <BR> > Pramod Mahajan<BR> > Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:42:58 IST<BR> > Dear K.N.Raoji<BR> > Is it about Moon a Maraka transiting 12th from/on to lagna during <BR> the said 2 days.In natal chart Moon is with lagna lord and aspected <BR> by saturn in transit.(Is saturn 22nd drekkana lord) Another maraka <BR> jupiter is also aspecting lagna from transit position.<BR> > Respect<BR> > Pradeep<BR> > <BR> > knrao Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44<BR> > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar<BR> > Re: Pramod Mahajan<BR> > Pradeep,<BR> > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with the <BR> following details seem to be reliable:<BR> > 30 Oct 948 / 19/51 /Mahboobnagar<BR> > Lagna Vrisha 17/39<BR> > Moon in Kanya 21/35<BR> > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April he can <BR> drag on for four months at most if this horoscope is correct.<BR> > K.N.Rao<BR> > <BR> > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 Vijayadas,Pradeep<BR> > Kumar wrote :<BR> > Dear K.N.Raoji<BR> > Do you have the horoscope of shri Pramod Mahajan.<BR> > Respect<BR> > Pradeep<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > At no stage I saw any chances of the survival of Mahajan on the <BR> basis of the horoscope I had before me. I had no reason to doubt it <BR> as some of the events of his life are verifiable from this horoscope <BR> including his educational pattern.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > I was aware that as many as five horoscopes were in circulation and <BR> some television channels desperate to be the "first" to cover it from <BR> all angles , including the strological<BR> > analysis, approached many astrologers. I was approached by some <BR> channels but I refused to appear in any television show . I did not <BR> want to cause any pain to the family of Pramod Mahajan which had been <BR> in deep agony during all these days. In fact, while a Hindi <BR> television channel showed a woman anchor talk aggressively of it <BR> being very fatal when water from the kidneys of Mahajan was being <BR> removed on 27 April, an English channel showed in a rather cultured <BR> way a correspondent saying that a request had been received from the <BR> family of Mahajan not to overplay it as fatal. It was clear from this <BR> that India's private television channels will never learn to be <BR> cultured.<BR> > <BR> > There is so much awkardness and delicacy in discussing openly the <BR> impending death of someone in glaring news. It is not the first time <BR> that many astrologers have claimed that they have got the horoscopes <BR> from most reliable "family sources". Majority of them stuck to <BR> Mithuna lagna and predicted recovery.<BR> > <BR> > But what a student passed on to me with Vrisha lagna appealed to me <BR> as correct and I privately predicted to friends that it was not a <BR> case of recovery and, at most, it could drag on only for a week or <BR> fortnight. I saw no chance of recovery at all. It is what I had <BR> written to Pradeep on 24 April.<BR> > <BR> > I am surprised at astrologers who cannot see the rise of Mahajan in <BR> the dasha of Saturn the tenth lord from Vrisha lagna. Why are they <BR> sticking to Mithuna and predicting recovery?<BR> > <BR> > See for instance the period of his rise. In Chara dasha it would be <BR> the dasha of Vrischika with an excellent eleventh house containing <BR> the Amatyakaraka and period of his amassing wealth also. In Vrischika-<BR> Meena- Karka in 1996 with Mars aspecting the tenth house he was even <BR> Defence Minister for a brief period during the ill fated 13 days <BR> government of Atal Behari Vajpai.<BR> > <BR> > From Tula Kumbha 3 July 2003 with Amatyakaraka falling in the <BR> eighth house he failed with his India Shining slogan and the NDA <BR> government and BJP fell from power. TV predictions of some <BR> astrologers Almost all astrologers said that the transit of Moon in <BR> Mesha could be fatal but all of them added that if he survived that, <BR> he would recover. <BR> > <BR> > With so many combinations for fatality present even from Mithuna <BR> lagna, how was Mahajan's survival seen ? <BR> > <BR> > From Vrisha lagna, the inevitable was visible more easily. I had a <BR> different view it will be Saturn- Rahu-Mercury which was rather bad. <BR> But to say, that he would recover after that appeared impossible to <BR> me. And ofcourse Moon in Mesha is a signal of danger. And later Moon <BR> in Mithuna would be equally dangerous as it would aspect the <BR> Karakamsha and also the pada of the eighth lord together with Mars.<BR> > <BR> > The period that would continue after will not be less fatal. There <BR> was no chance of a recovery at all. It was prudent to avoid <BR> television channels and discuss the available horoscope of Mahajan <BR> quietly in our astrological circles, I decided.<BR> > <BR> > As in the case of news in general so too in the case of Mahajan, <BR> balanced news coverage<BR> > was available only in the Doordarshan which is government <BR> controlled and has a tradition of dignity, news sense presented by <BR> mature and experience journalists.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > ASTROLOGICAL ANALYSIS <BR> > The analysis we had arrived at was the following.<BR> > <BR> > Vimshottari dasha<BR> > In Vimshottari dasha it is Saturn-Rahu-Mercury from 6 January 2006 <BR> to 3 June 2006 and Mercury here is the second lord and maraka.<BR> > <BR> > Chara dasha<BR> > The picture is clearer in Jaimini's Chara Dasha in which it is <BR> Kanya which contains both the Atmakaraka and the Karakamsha. The <BR> antardasha is Mesha from 31 May 2005 to 31 May 2006. This is eighth <BR> from Karakamsha and fatal. <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > In Sthira dasha<BR> > The picture is equally depressing in Jaimini Sthira dasha.. It is <BR> Mesha Mesha upto 5 May 2006. So no hope can he held out. May 5 is <BR> like a distant date now.This is eighth from Karakamsha and fatal . <BR> Mesha is eighth from Karakamsha and Atmakaraka and from here, <BR> Bhartikaraka, Mars is in the eighth house showing the brother being <BR> in trouble. Mesha antardasha is aspected by Mars and Saturn showing <BR> the violent incident.<BR> > <BR> > The transit of the day<BR> > Both the lagna lord Venus and Moon are in Kanya on which Ketu has <BR> been transitting and now Saturn from Karka and Mars from Mithuna are <BR> aspecting it showing the dangerous event clearly. The fifth house <BR> from Vrisha represents the stomach region, as a student pointed out.<BR> > <BR> > Tajak<BR> > A colleague in the Institute of Astrology, Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan, <BR> Sri Saxena, worked on the Tajak of Pramod Mahajan and told me that <BR> the conclusion I had come to, of it being the end of everything for <BR> Mahajan, was confirmed through the annual horoscope also. Here Mars <BR> in the fifth house aspecting Saturn in the eighth is ominous enough <BR> and Saturn is the third lord also. Here Muntha is in the second house <BR> aspected by Saturn and the lord of Muntha, Saturn is in the eighth <BR> house aspected by Mars. The fatal picture drawn from Vimshottari and <BR> Jaimini's Chara dasha is corroborated.<BR> > <BR> > Bhrigu approach<BR> > As I was writing this, S. S.dropped in and I asked him to give a <BR> Bhrigu analysis presuming the data to be accurate. SS has been doing <BR> some remarkable researches in Bhrigu and wants to remain anynymous <BR> for some personal reasons. He did it and said that nothing was good <BR> and there was no hope.<BR> > <BR> > I decided to post this piece in the first week of May, as in Sthira <BR> dasha, the fatal period is upto 5 May.<BR> > <BR> > NOTE<BR> > I had told a BJP leader of middle level about a political <BR> assassination a week before the tragedy of Mahajan and I will <BR> disclose it later.<BR> > (Written in parts between 25 April and 2 May 2006)<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > THE PREDICTION OF THE ASSASSINATION OF A POLITICAL LEADER<BR> > K.N.Rao.<BR> > <BR> > The horoscope of BJP must reflect and it is here that I must tell <BR> readers that I had made a prediction that there would be the <BR> assassination of a leader soon. These are very confidential <BR> predictions and so sensitive that I do not want anyone other than the <BR> person to whom I tell it, to even get an inkling of it. <BR> > See the letter below:<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > To <BR> > Prof K.N.Rao.<BR> > FEROZE VARUN GANDHI<BR> > Dear Guruji,<BR> > I was deeply shocked to hear of the misfortune that had befallen <BR> Pramodji. I remembered the prediction made to me a week earlier that <BR> a major assassination of a political leader would take place soon. I <BR> have been thinking about your prediction and several others made by <BR> you over the last year. The accuracy of them continues to astound me.<BR> > Yours sincerely,<BR> > Varun<BR> > 27/4/2006<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Subsequent to this, I received many phones from many people asking <BR> me what was my prediction about Pramod Mahajan. I told them that I <BR> had no doubt that the horoscope I was using in his case was correct <BR> and on this basis I would not even give one percent chance to Mahajan <BR> for survival. This prediction of mine did not seem to be in line with <BR> the periodical medical bulletins someone told me. Astrologers were <BR> optimistic of his prediction if he survived April but I was not at <BR> any stage. <BR> > The immediate fatal date after 27/28 April would be before 5 May I <BR> told them. I have discussed the basis for this in the main body of <BR> the article.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Archives: <a href="vedic astrology">vedic astrology</a><BR> > <BR> > Group info: <a href="vedic astrology/info.html">vedic astrology/info.html</a><BR> > <BR> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-<BR> <BR> > <BR> > ....... 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At the same time I am going over to Spain in September 2006 for 4 months in an exchange program. <BR> Another problem that is troubling me at present is the partition of my grandfather's property amongst my Father, Uncles and Aunties.<BR> <BR> I am also undecided as to what am I going to do after completion of my PhD. Should I go for a job (which means leaving my family back in Orissa) or settling for a not so bright career path in the home state.<BR> <BR> Please spare some time to suggest me as to what is the future path like.<BR> <BR> My Details<BR> Date of Birth - 16th of January 1977<BR> Place of Birth - Kolkata (Calcutta) - India<BR> Time of Birth - 18.22 (6.22 p.m.)<BR> <BR> Hope this details would suffice for you. Waiting eagerly for the reply.<BR> <BR> with regards<BR> <BR> Anshuman Tripathy<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 12 <BR> "r_m_sharma" ram.dishant <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 11:21am(PDT) <BR> Re: ketu's sub period<BR> <BR> thanks a lot, when native can expect a change in residence or a <BR> promotion in organisation.Is there any chance of foriegn visit in <BR> near future.<BR> RMS<BR> vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma <BR> <BR> wrote:<BR> ><BR> > .HARE RAM.<BR> > Dear RMS,<BR> > Please remember Ketu period either in <BR> Mahadasa or Anter dasa never<BR> > gives better results.Ok Jupiter is <BR> aspecting towards it but how can we<BR> > overlook Mahadasanath Budh that is not <BR> really beneficial for you.So do<BR> > Lord Ganesh Pooja on wednesday and do start <BR> giving Roti to Dog on <BR> > each Saturday when Ketu Mahadasa will be <BR> started.<BR> > <BR> > Shashi Shekhar Sharma Mobile-<BR> 09818310075<BR> > <BR> > r_m_sharma wrote:<BR> > List<BR> > DOB 20-06-1964<BR> > TOB 1755<BR> > POB Nasirabad(Rajasthan)<BR> > For this native ketu sub-period will start in aug 2006. 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CRYPTIC CLUES !!!<BR> <BR> ..HARE RAM.<BR> Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,<BR> I am sorry but it is baseless and fake that Sh.Rao jee had<BR> approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did he say that day?<BR> It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of said day.Plz try<BR> to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person has Mrityu Yog<BR> these days" but he never said about time and date surely and he opposed<BR> strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one (learned person) must <BR> give their predictions regarding earthquake or other natural calamities<BR> but also all the astrologers should make a forum separately for the same<BR> purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the country.<BR> Please do not take it otherwise.One should always do true<BR> criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree with me.Please do <BR> forgive me if you find some mistake.<BR> <BR> With Regards<BR> Shashi Shekhar Sharma<BR> <BR> <BR> Tatvam-Asi wrote:<BR> Dear Arjun Ji,<BR> Are you, by any chance ,refering to my earthquake predictions?<BR> A bit curious.<BR> <BR> K.N Rao ji, was sitting in the TV Channel's studio discussing the astrologer's chart.<BR> And he catagorically said that this person has Mrityu Yog and may die at predicted time.<BR> <BR> Now who was seeking free publicity and who did not ? I have no answer to this question.<BR> <BR> Tatvam-Asi<BR> <BR> By the way, Yoga Teacher Ramadasji himself is one such publicity seeker IMHO.<BR> <BR> <BR> panditarjun2004 <BR> wrote:<BR> dear tatvam ji<BR> <BR> since i have not seen respected KNRao's prediction on this self-<BR> death predicting astrologer, i do not comment on him.<BR> <BR> but one thing is certain that this astrologer who predicted his own <BR> death with exact date and time was giving self publicity, so much so <BR> that some local newspapers mentioned his village got several curious <BR> tourists and he had several customers waiting in line for getting <BR> their charts read (all for knowing their death date?). several TV <BR> channels and newspapers unnecessarily made this self-death <BR> predicting astrologer a hero and gave him free publicity.<BR> <BR> in my humble opinion, death prediction shall not be made by any <BR> astrologer either for others or for self. if the astrologer finds a <BR> chance of fatality, he can only give an indication and cannot <BR> predict with certainty that the native will die. this is against <BR> the ethics of astrolgy. still if an astrologer predicts death and <BR> then claims "I SAID SO" it is only bad karma.<BR> <BR> once the yoga guru ramdevji criticised the astrologers and fake <BR> tantriks alike for predicting every native the following things:<BR> <BR> 1. you are suffering from the malefic affects of rahu, ketu and <BR> saturn.<BR> 2. your planets are good but your present dasa is bad.<BR> 3. people are jealous of you and due to this your growth is hindered <BR> or someone has done blackmagic on you.<BR> 4. you have various doshams in your chart for which i will do these <BR> poojas for you.<BR> <BR> also these days, it has become a fashion for every panchanga karta <BR> and every astrologer to predict general things for the country like:<BR> <BR> 1. the country would lose a great leader (there are hundreds of ex <BR> prime/chief ministers and ministers who die every year)<BR> 2. cold waves would have heavy toll in the northern states<BR> 3. heat waves prevails across the country<BR> 4. air accidents would claim lives.<BR> 5. ship wrecks or boats capsize leading to hundreds drowned.<BR> 6. earthquakes rock the country<BR> 7. new godmen come to save the country (every godman claims himself <BR> as kalki avataar)<BR> 8. country prospers in the field of technology.<BR> <BR> any blind man can guess that these predictions happen every year <BR> without saying.<BR> <BR> my humble submission to all such astrologers is that stop giving <BR> general predictions and give specific predictions to individuals who <BR> are approaching the group. such predictions are useless if they are <BR> not going to help the native.<BR> <BR> as pandit dakshinamoorthiji said once, an astrologer shall predict a <BR> chart only if he is asked to. that is the maturity which shall be <BR> displayed by all matured astrologers.<BR> <BR> till date not a single godman (having crores of devotees and <BR> thousands of crores property) could predict earthquake or tsunami. <BR> they all come to donate blankets or food packets only after the <BR> incident. not a single astrologer could predict earthquake or <BR> tsunami with place, date and time. such generalised predictions <BR> only make astrolgy a laughing stock. for example, if a person <BR> predicts earthquake could occurr in a state between 1st to 15th of a <BR> month, it is of no use even if it occurrs.<BR> <BR> all the great sages who used to predict with their divya drishti <BR> (not astrology) also used to suggest upays for averting any <BR> negatives. the underlying objective of a prediction is only to help <BR> the native lead a happy life and not to claim "I SAID SO".<BR> <BR> with best wishes<BR> pandit arjun<BR> <BR> vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi <BR> wrote:<BR> ><BR> > Dear Mr. Sreeram,<BR> > <BR> > what do you mean by cryptic clues? <BR> > <BR> > I am still wondering about Sri K.N Rao siding with a village <BR> astrologer who had predicted his own death last year (I think) and <BR> Mr. K.N Rao had also agreed with that astrologer after seeing his <BR> chart that he will die.<BR> > The whole of India was taken for a ride and a TV Channel wasted <BR> a whole day cov<BR> ering this non event.<BR> > THE ASTROLOGER DID NOT DIE AND WHEN I RAISED THIS TOPIC IN VEDIC <BR> ASTROLOGY GROUP, NO ONE DARED TO AGREE WITH ME.<BR> > <BR> > Does Mr. Rao has answer for this?<BR> > <BR> > Tatvam-Asi<BR> > <BR> > sreeram srinivas wrote:<BR> > It is a fact that on 30th April 2006 during Bharatiya vidya <BR> Bhawan seminar<BR> > Sri K.N. Rao has assertively made this prediction about Mr. Pramod<BR> > Mahanjan's final demise. He has given enough cryptic clues to <BR> his analysis<BR> > on his official website. Kindly do not expect him to join a <BR> discussion in<BR> > trying to explain his logics in detail for public consumption. <BR> The<BR> > students need to raise to a level through their own research & <BR> knowledge<BR> > application. Sri K.N. Rao has brought the astrology to current <BR> status<BR> > through his teachings since 1987-88 onwards, thanks to his sharing <BR> of<BR> > knowledge that thousands of people got enlightened in this vedic <BR> sciences,<BR> > further some of them even practise it for their daily sustenance.<BR> > <BR> > with regards,<BR> > sreeram srinivas<BR> > sreeram64<BR> > <BR> > _____ <BR> > <BR> > vedic astrology<BR> > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of <BR> jyothi_b_lakshmi<BR> > Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:25 AM<BR> > vedic astrology<BR> > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on <BR> Pramod<BR> > Mahajan/Doubts<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Hi Shashi Shekhar,<BR> > <BR> > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I <BR> > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and <BR> with <BR> > humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer <BR> who <BR> > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent <BR> > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without <BR> checking <BR> > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go <BR> > wrong). <BR> > <BR> > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Regards,<BR> > Jyothi<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma <BR> > <BR> wrote:<BR> > ><BR> > > .HARE RAM.<BR> > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee,<BR> > > Saadar Charan <BR> > Sparsha!<BR> > > <BR> > > He is my second <BR> Guru <BR> > in astrology but like Aacharya<BR> > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him <BR> before <BR> > while i am resident <BR> > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves <BR> > knowledge so a have some<BR> > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to <BR> keep <BR> > before him.I hope kind<BR> > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the <BR> > reason according to<BR> > > Vrishabh Lagana.<BR> > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we <BR> > predict that this native had a<BR> > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own <BR> house.<BR> > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the <BR> 8th <BR> > lord sitted in own house,<BR> > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft, <BR> 7th <BR> > lord is in own sign.<BR> > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger <BR> brother? <BR> > Karak of 3rd house<BR> > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same <BR> > house is sitted with Lagan<BR> > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak <BR> > nor the lord of 3rd house <BR> > > Moon was running at the time of incident.<BR> > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to <BR> Sh. <BR> > Rao jee through you if <BR> > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive <BR> me.<BR> > > <BR> > > With Due Regards<BR> > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma <BR> > Mobile-09818310075<BR> > > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Archives: <a href="vedic astrology">vedic astrology</a><BR> > <BR> > Group info: <a href="vedic astrology/info.html">vedic astrology/info.html</a><BR> > <BR> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-<BR> <BR> > <BR> > ....... 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So what remedy<BR> should I do primarily.<BR> <BR> I would greatly appreciate the reply.<BR> <BR> Nutan <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 15 <BR> "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 11:52am(PDT) <BR> Re: Shri KN Rao's prediction... CRYPTIC CLUES !!!<BR> <BR> you keep on jumping from this to to that group and post my postings there.<BR> I already replied to you on jr group.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> shashi shekhar sharma <BR> wrote:<BR> ..HARE RAM.<BR> Sh.Tatvam Asi jee,<BR> I am sorry but it is baseless and fake that Sh.Rao jee had<BR> approved the predictions of the said astrologer.What did he say that day?<BR> It is quite safe in my memory.You may check the clips of said day.Plz try<BR> to remember his words.He said"It seems that this person has Mrityu Yog<BR> these days" but he never said about time and date surely and he opposed<BR> strongly for such type of predictions. Not only one (learned person) must <BR> give their predictions regarding earthquake or other natural calamities<BR> but also all the astrologers should make a forum separately for the same<BR> purpose and give predictions sitted on one bench for the country.<BR> Please do not take it otherwise.One should always do true<BR> criticism with out jealously.I think you will be agree with me.Please do <BR> forgive me if you find some mistake.<BR> <BR> With Regards<BR> Shashi Shekhar Sharma<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 16 <BR> "Richard Shaw Brown" rsbj66 <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 0:35pm(PDT) <BR> EMERALD BUDDHA: Sacred Object of Siam<BR> <BR> PICTURE: Bhagavan Sri Buddha Avatar, the Sacred Emerald Buddha of<BR> Thailand, is actually a large carved emerald green jadeite. The History<BR> of this Deity dates back to Lord Brahma who gave it to Lord Indra, and<BR> now it is the most sacred object in Siam. Tonight is VISHAKA PUJA or<BR> Lord Buddha's enlightenment day anniversary. <BR> <BR> <a href="sacred-objects/">sacred-objects/</a> <---VIEW<BR> <BR> Send instant messages to your online friends <a href="http://uk.messenger..">http://uk.messenger.</a> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 17 <BR> "Jagannathan Kapisthalam" jagannathankr <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 1:22pm(PDT) <BR> Re: Trouble in job/Need suggestion<BR> <BR> Dear Sir,<BR> Did your brothers or sisters get any bad result after 5-7-2004.?<BR> Regards,<BR> jagannathan.<BR> <BR> <BR> On 5/12/06, sukanta mahakhuda wrote:<BR> ><BR> > Jai radheshyam,<BR> ><BR> > I Sukant a new member to the group.<BR> ><BR> > My life has been troublesome for last few years.But last March(2006)<BR> > was one of the harshest.so now I am very apprehensive of my future.<BR> > I was working in an MNC as a computer engineer, but lost my job within<BR> > 3.5 months.<BR> > But somehow I got to manage to get ajob again.<BR> > I want to from you expert that whether I wil be able to continue this<BR> > job smoothly or is there any obstacle to it.If so what remedy should I<BR> > follow?Please give some suggestion.<BR> ><BR> > My date of birth: 27 - 06 - 1974<BR> > Time : 10.05 AM<BR> > Place of Birth : Sonepur,Orissa<BR> ><BR> > Thank you<BR> > Sukant<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > <BR> > Talk is cheap. 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May Jupiter's light shine on us .......<BR> ><BR> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > <BR> > Astrology chart Vedic<BR> > astrology Astrology<BR> > horoscope Astrology<BR> > software<BR> > ------------------------------<BR> > <BR> ><BR> ><BR> > - Visit your group "vedic astrology"<BR> > on the web.<BR> ><BR> > - <BR> > vedic astrology<BR> ><BR> > - Terms of<BR> > Service .<BR> ><BR> ><BR> > ------------------------------<BR> ><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 18 <BR> "vijayadas_pradeep" vijayadas_pradeep <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 2:09pm(PDT) <BR> Why - Navamsha for Spouse<BR> <BR> Dear Respected members<BR> <BR> I am posting my understanding on the subject.Kindly verify.<BR> <BR> Spouse is sometimes termed as PraanaSakhi(beloved companion of<BR> Prana).Also Spouse is known as one half of Prana.Shiva and Shakthi and<BR> Ardhanareeshwara - any connection?.<BR> <BR> Now Navamshas represent Navapranas as per Dashadhyayi.<BR> <BR> Combining own understanding(can be wrong) with authentic words of<BR> Thalakkulathu Bhattathiri(Dashadhyayi author) - relationship between<BR> Navamsha and Spouse can be linked.<BR> <BR> Thus studying the navamsha sambandha of a graha on relevant bhavas or<BR> Karaka planets,as mentioned in Classics seems to be correct and pretty<BR> clear than the contemporary understanding of Navamsha analysis.It is my<BR> personal opinion and other learned members can very well disagree.<BR> <BR> Thanks<BR> Pradeep<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 19 <BR> "David Andrews" andrews635 <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 8:31pm(PDT) <BR> Re: Please help this native --second post !<BR> <BR> Dear Avin,<BR> You state that this is your second post of the details of birth of your friend. Had you requested the forum with a specific enquiry about your friend you would have got a reply by now.<BR> <BR> David<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ______________________<BR> ______________________<BR> <BR> Message 20 <BR> "Tatvam-Asi" nameisego <BR> Fri May 12, 2006 8:36pm(PDT) <BR> Re: Next CM - TN ? Rahu Centric approach Swearing in time.<BR> <BR> Friends,<BR> Dr. Mu.Ka. Karunanidhi will be sworn in as Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu on Saturday morning at 11 am.<BR> <BR> Kataka lagna rising with Sani. Moon in Vishakha and dasa natha Guru placed in Swati would make an interesting life for him.<BR> Why interesting?<BR> Because in R1 position or KL, both Guru and Chandra are in 8th house.Guru being lagnadhipati.There is parivartana between lagna and 8th house lords.I have already predicted that he would not complete his full term as CM due to ill health or other factors.<BR> Let us see what fate has in store for him.<BR> <BR> Tatvam-Asi<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Tatvam-Asi wrote:<BR> <BR> Dear Raman ji,<BR> I just checked Madam 9 's chart as was discussed in VA forum some time back (I think).<BR> <BR> She was born on 24 Feb 1948 , at 2.36 pm. Birth place (I am not sure as it is in long/lat.)<BR> But I am not concerned about the place.<BR> She started Rahu Dasa Shukra Bhukti on 7th March 2006.<BR> If I take her R1 KL position chart, Shukra is exalted but in 12th in Kaalanta sign.Is posited in 12th in Vish Mukha. It is fully aspected by Mars, the lagna and 8th lord.<BR> This single factor denotes that she will see an end to her present era of rule (temporary) in this election.<BR> <BR> Prasna taken , shows that her past actions will torment her in form of defeat. She will have to face unexpected dangers, reversals etc . Since sukra is in 12th in Kaalanta, she will be procecuted as well as persecuted during Shukra Bhukti..<BR> May Tamilnadu see better days.<BR> Tatvam-Asi<BR> <BR> <BR> Raman Suprajarama wrote:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> _____ <BR> <BR> [] On<BR> Behalf Of Raman Suprajarama<BR> Monday, May 08, 2006 8:15 PM<BR> <BR> Cc: Vedic Astrology<BR> Re: Next CM - TN ?<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Dear Members,<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Jayalalitha's birth date I have differs from what is given below. The time<BR> of birth is 14.36 hrs.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Jayalalitha is under Rahu-Venus-Mars capable for giving her good position<BR> <BR> Karunanidhi is under Venus-Venus-Sun which is also quite positive.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Venus as the 10th lord (for Karunanidhi) is more powerful than Venus in the<BR> 10th house (for Jayalalitha). It is going to be an interesting election and<BR> Karunadhi might emerge as a winner. We will have to wait and see.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Om Tat Sat,<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Raman Suprajarama<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> _____ <BR> <BR> [] On<BR> Behalf Of Pradeep<BR> Sunday, May 07, 2006 9:10 PM<BR> <BR> Re: Next CM - TN ?<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> I give below the birth details of<BR> <BR> 1.M Karunanidhi <BR> 3rd June 1924<BR> Place---Thanjavuru, Tamilnadu<BR> Time--1215 hours<BR> <BR> <BR> 2.J Jayalalitha<BR> Place of Birth-Mysore, Karnataka<BR> Date---24th February 1948<BR> Time---10:58:00 hours<BR> <BR> <BR> Some take JJ's Lagna to be Taurus.<BR> <BR> Thank You<BR> <BR> Regards,<BR> Pradeep<BR> <BR> <BR> , "Raman Suprajarama" <BR> wrote:<BR> ><BR> > Dear Members,<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Can anyone post the charts of Jayalalitha and Karunanidhi (casted <BR> as per<BR> > Raman Ayanamsa)? We can have a discussion.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > If my memory serves me right, she is Simha rasi and since <BR> Sadesathi has<BR> > begun, things will not be easy for her.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Om Tat Sat,<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Raman Suprajarama<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > _____ <BR> > <BR> > <BR> [] On<BR> > Behalf Of Pradeep<BR> > Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:45 AM<BR> > vedic astrology; ; sohamsa; ; naastrology;<BR> > KNRaoJyotish; ; <BR> > Next CM - TN ?<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Dear Members,<BR> > Who will it be ..... 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