Phaladeepika & Mahapurusha Yoga from Moon/Bharat 2

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Dear Bharat,

  

  I second your opinion on this. Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha is a good commentator. Mistakes can creep into any work but they dont belittle the knowledge of the scholar.

  

  regards,

  

  Manoj

 

Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology > wrote:

  Namaskaar Sri Chandrashekharji

 

Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha is most respectable to me despite the few errors. I

have not had the fortune of having a formal guru for astrology. Whatever

little I learnt was from books and discussions with whomsoever had any

knowledge. "Phaldeepika" by Punditji, incidently, was the first book I ever

read on hindu astrology. Just by its principles, I could predict. At that

time, I did not even know that Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra existed.

 

For me, Lord Shiva is the teacher for it is he who manifests in every

teacher and makes them so. I would never disregard to disrespect such a

teacher. I am glad you too hold him in high esteem.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

On 5/16/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

>

> Dear Bharat,

> That does happen with everyone. The key to the translation is the order

> of shlokas and what they cover. Gopeshkumar was a very learned person ad

> has brought many less known texts to light. When one is doing so much,

> one can sometime make a mistake. That does not detract from his

> "Paanditya"

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

> > Namaskaar Sri Chandrashekharji

> >

> > Thank you for the clarification. I suppose it turned out to be an

> > erroneous

> > translation of Sanskrit by Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha. He has repeated the

> same

> > words in another translation - I think it is Jatakalankaar.

> >

> > In any case, thank you for your email as it clarifies the issue.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> > On 5/16/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bharat,

> > > The Sanskrit shlokas appear in Gopeshkumarji's translation also. I

> think

> > > Gopeshkumar, whom I respect much, perhaps misinterpreted the shloka.

> The

> > > shloka says "Lagnedorapi" (1st word shloka 4 Chapter 6)meaning the

> > > Grahas should be in Kendra from Lagna and also should be in Kendra

> from

> > > Chandra. Had it been "Lagnedu vaa" or even "Lagnendu vaapi" it would

> > > indicate that the grahas should be in Kendra from lagna or/and Moon.

> > > "Lagnedorapi"  appearing, is in context with earlier shloka 3 and

> would

> > > mean that when a Graha occupies Kendra in own or exaltation rasi,

> > > Chandra should also occupy another Kendra. This would bring the graha

> in

> > > Kendra to both Lagna and Chandra. This is in line with basic

> principles

> > > of astrology as Chandra would get strength from occupying a Kendra. It

> > > is said that strength of Chandra is the seed of strength of all

> grahas.

> > > So the graha will receive additional strength besides strength

> obtained

> > > from occupation of own/exaltation rasi. It is when this condition is

> > > satisfied that Mantreshwar says that the Jataka will become a King

> > > amongst Kings. This condition not being satisfied, he says that the

> > > person will be a commander of army for Ruchaka yoga, a learned king

> for

> > > Bhadra yoga, beautiful and appreciated by the Sajjan (good people) and

> > > partaker of good food in Hamsa yoga,  valorous, strong, learned and

> > > prosperous for Malavya yoga and powerful, leader of a city or a king,

> > > praised by all but not having good behavior in fact and so on for

> Shasha

> > > yoga.

> > >

> > > I trust this clarifies the matter.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > >

> > > Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

> > > > Namaskaar Sri Chandrashekharji

> > > >

> > > > The phaldeepika I possess does not have Sanskrit Translation, just a

> > > > commentary of Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha in Hindi. Can you guide me to a

> > > > translation of Phaldeepika?

> > > >

> > > > The reason I ask is, because Pt. Ojha on Page 111 on his translation

> > > > writes

> > > > this in hindi and I translate "That one must keep it in mind that

> > > > Mantreshawar Maharaj has said that if the 5 grahas are in the Kendra

> > > from

> > > > Moon in Swarashi or Uccharashi, then it is considered as similar

> > to yoga

> > > > from lagna".

> > > >

> > > > I wonder where and which sholka has Mantreshwar Maharaj said so.

> Till

> > > > date,

> > > > I have not used the usage of Mahapurusha Yogas from Moon, but would

> > > > like to

> > > > find out if it has been said by the classical texts.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > Bharat

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 5/14/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear David,

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna and Moon in strength may not necessarily mean that the

> > yogas are

> > > > > to be read from Moon. It would mean Moon with Paksha bala and

> > Lagna in

> > > > > strength, the yoga causing graha being with strength and not

> > blemished

> > > > > by association of other grahas, especially malefics.

> > > > >

> > > > > By the way, Phaladeepika does not say that the yogas are to be

> seen

> > > with

> > > > > respect to Moon.

> > > > >

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > David Andrews wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Shri Sunil,

> > > > > >   I felt that you were wrong in stating that the MahaPrush Yoga

> > > could

> > > > > > originate either from the Lagna or the Moon.  I was under the

> > > > > > impression that it should originate from lagna. Thanks for

> > insisting

> > > > > > that it could originate either from the Lagna or the Moon.

> > > > > >   I looked up my copy of Phala deepika translated by G. S.

> Kapoor.

> > > In

> > > > > > Chapter 6 (page 62) where we read:

> > > > > >   "These five yogas have been named as Pancha Mahapurusha Yogas.

> > > > > > Jataka Parijata has defined these Yogas as under:-

> > > > > >     According as Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus or Saturn

> > possessing

> > > > > > the greatest strength and occupying a kendra is in Moolatrikona,

> > > > > > Swakshetra or Swochcha, the resulting Rajayogas will be named

> > > Ruchaka,

> > > > > > Bhadra, Hamsa, Malavya and Sasa the beautiful.."

> > > > > >    According to Saravali, "Venus, Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and

> > Mercury

> > > > > > remaining in their respective own houses or exaltation signs,

> > > > > > identical with kendra cause Malavya, Ruchuka, Sasa, Hamsa and

> > Bhadra

> > > > > > Yogas respectively."

> > > > > >    But it is imperative that Yogas will the promised effects

> only

> > > when

> > > > > > the Lagna or Moon and Yoga forming planets are without blemish.

> In

> > > > > > other words they are vested with strength and not associated

> > with or

> > > > > > in conjuction with malefics, are not combust and not placed

> > between

> > > > > > malefics.

> > > > > >   The book contains charts of Stalin - with planetary formations

> > > > > > making up Ruchaka and Malavya yogas.

> > > > > >   Dr. Radha Krishnan  - Bhadra Yoga

> > > > > >   Motilal Nehru - Hamsa Yoga

> > > > > >   Jawarlal Nehru - Malavya Yoga

> > > > > >   Sardar Patel - Sasa and Ruchuka Yogas.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >   David

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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