Happy Married life possible? - Ketu in 12th and debilited

May 17, 2006

klim dattatreyaya namah

dear pranav

comments below.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

, Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51>

wrote:

>

> |om gurave namah |

>

> Dear Zeljko ji and Rafal ji,

>

> Thank you for your valuable input!

>

> There is a conjunction of sun and Venus, according to rules of

Conjunction Sun will now behave as lord of 7th house and Venus as lord

of 5th house.

[rafal] its little complicated and refers to Dasas when we talk about

giving results. Kundali is alllife and dasas shows when the concerned

actor is coming on stage. Its Siva Yoga which gives knowledge, broad

faith and growth, being in fifth from A-Pada it enriches social

gatherings by that quality. Shukra is exalted in Dharmamasa..

Since Sun is debilited and in 7th. Hence, Sun is a major contributor

for the marital issues the native is facing. Am I on the wrong track??

[rafal] bhava is attitude, lord is entity/person and karaka is

experience. seventh is partners-karma, a7 is their external experience

and UL is real marriage. Seventh in navamsa is traits of spouse

independent of Your attitude/optic..DK is view on soul-level..as You

see topic is complicated. Surya gets neechabhanga by Venus...and its

strong Venus.

>

> Eventhough the 7th house is in a Papatakari yoga, with dhristi

from Saturn (badhaka for aries asc), native got married coz Venus is

exalted in Navamas.

[rafal] Sani didnt touch the UL and AL, Venus is strong and in

Panaphar from AL, so marriage is seen.

Also Moon is conjunc with Ketu this makes the native pessimistic,

lacks optimism and Of self destructive nature,

[rafal] maybe its temporary.. pessimism comes from Shani.. Ketu gives

sudden actions..but with Moon its very bad as conventional approach,

society and comfort which enrich the mind is lacking due to this

Graha...but forth bhava has Guru (bhavatna ratnakar says its good for

hapiness) and its well placed from this Moon-Ketu yuti.

Personally I think this is also a factor responsible for problems in

the married life. Again feel free to correct me if I am wrong!

[rafal] Yes..it could give delays..Moon and Ketu are opposite..Ketu

wants spirituallity Moon conventional and society-minded approach.

>

> Other members of the group please feel free to pitch in to the

discussion and correct me if I am wrong.

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

> Rafal <starsuponme> wrote:

> Dear Zeljko, Pranav!

>

> Pranaam,if i may join the discussion:

>

> The chart shows good start from nice love relationship,

> Guru with A7 and shows some problems with Mangal in eight(asura graha)

> which is breaking the relations generally (having drsti on 2 from UL,

> as first is out because lord in twelfth bhava). Now whenever Ketu is

> in twelfth it will give problem(especially when enmical to 2UL lord)

> however there is same number of grahas in eight so its not so bad.

> Partner will inspire spiritually as 7 from AK is Ketu in Pisces.

> Problems will come due to fighting

> spirit of native (Mangal in sixht from AL, Sani in 3 from AL and 2

> from A7 and Sani is silent-killer) so one should be more calm

> which will be difficult for Mesha Lagna with Shukra aspect. Anyway

> following Zeljko advise fasting is auspicious and Guru exalted will

> protect(inNav Lag) the marriage giving one demand being happy (Guru

> and forth bhava, its also good for going abroad(2L in seventh) as lord

> is in twelfth) . To remove the curse,

> Laxmi worship is essential with mantra: Om lakshmyai namah. Start

> on friday on Sukra-kala (6 00-7 30a.m) and listen to this mantra

> carefully chanting it 3 malas daily.

>

> Nice chart for spirituality...Guru & Mangal in Navamsa Lagna (in

> scorpio mars is stronger so it can delay little). Ketu in 8 in

> Drekkana and nice Raja Yoga in eight bhava in Rasi. Amk with moon in

> Pisces..

> Be careful about enemies (ak in sixht in ninth from a6) they can give

> you problem to your hapiness/social life (4 from aL). Second warning

> is mistakes/gambling (lagnesh in eight and Ke aspects AL).

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> , Zeljko Krgovic

> <krgoviczeljko@> wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > Dear Pranav,

> > First what I saw in this chart is that Shukra is under strong

> curse in the seventh bhava conjoining Surya and having third drishti

> of Shani and secondary drishti of Rahu. Shukra is the seventh lord in

> Rasi and Navamsha chart. Also there is dosha with Shukra's placement

> in seventh house for which is Karaka. For marriage problems, I think

> first remedy should be fast on the day of UL, in this case Tuesday and

> try to remove curse of Shukra. This can be very hard because Shukra

> is Vakri. In Vedic Remedies Guruji Sanjay wrote: "remedy lies in the

> donation of an idol of Lakshmi-Narayana, fertile cow or bed/

> ornaments/ garments for a newly married couple. Alternatively by

> helping other people to marry and settle down, one is relieved of the

> curse". For detailed remedy like pujas and various mantras some of

> Guru's need to give advised.

> > I do not see why Mangala in own sign and Ketu in moolatrikona are

> so bad in this chart, especially because Ma is Darakaraka ruling over

> UL and Ke as Kula Devata?!

> > If I am wrong please correct me.

> > Hope this help

> > Zeljko

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51> wrote:

>

> |om gurave namah |

>

> Respected Members,

>

> I attached the horoscope but forgot to write the birth details:

>

> DOB of the native:

> Gender: Female

> DOB: 12 Nov 1978

> Time: 17:24 (5:24 pm)

> Place: Nangal, Punjab (31:24:N and 76:24:E)

>

> I will really apprecite any pointers to the mistakes, valuable

insights and other suggestions on the readings.

>

> Regards,

> Pranav

>

> -------------------------

> Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51> wrote:

>

> |om gurave namah |

>

> Respected Gurujis,

>

> I am looking at a horoscope of a native - horoscope attached - who

is facing lot of problems in her married life. Looking at her

horroscope, 7th house is aspected by Sani, Bandhaka, and the 7th house

is also helmed between malefics Rahu in 6th and Mercury in 8th.

Moreover, her UL has Mars in it. This combo and ketu in 12th all point

to serious marital conflict.

>

> There is also conjunction between debilited Sun (wealth) and

combust retro Venus(spouse), Moon in 12th with ketu and Mercury in

scorpio in 8th is further aggravating the issue. The only saving grace

seems to be an exalted Jupiter in 4th aspecting the 8th.

> Learneds please let me know your opinion on the analysis and

please add to the readings/analysis.

>

> For remedies My first instinct was to strenghen the Jupiter,

however Jupiter is in Parivartan with Moon in 12th. Hence, I think

worshiping Lord Ganesha to pacify Ketu and prayers to

strengthen/pacify the Sun will help the native.

> Gurujis please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

>

> Warm Regards,

> Pranav

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

today

>

> !

May 17, 2006

dear pranav..

when there is a curse we take the Devata represented by benefic

cursed..now this has 3 levels..is lord is well-placed we could take

Brghu...if Karaka is well placed we could take Saci..but they are

involved in curse so we take another classification of remedies and

took Lakshmi. but in simpler manner there is rule that when bad yoga

is happening then we take Devata representing the karaka of that bhava

so Shukra anyway..

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

, Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51>

wrote:

>

> |om gurave namah |

>

> Dear Zeljko ji and Rafal ji,

>

> I meant shouldnt we be suggesting remedies for Sun along

with/rather than Venus??

>

> Regards,

> Pranav

>

> Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51> wrote:

> |om gurave namah |

>

> Dear Zeljko ji and Rafal ji,

>

> Thank you for your valuable input!

>

> There is a conjunction of sun and Venus, according to rules of

Conjunction Sun will now behave as lord of 7th house and Venus as lord

of 5th house. Since Sun is debilited and in 7th. Hence, Sun is a major

contributor for the marital issues the native is facing. Am I on the

wrong track??

>

> Eventhough the 7th house is in a Papatakari yoga, with dhristi

from Saturn (badhaka for aries asc), native got married coz Venus is

exalted in Navamas. Also Moon is conjunc with Ketu this makes the

native pessimistic, lacks optimism and Of self destructive nature,