Guest guest Posted February 17, 2000 Report Share Posted February 17, 2000 > * Gaurakishoradasa Babaji would sometimes refuse to eat even the temple > prasada; implicit in this is that Krishna didn't actually eat such > offerings, that those responsible for them were somehow impure. He may > have even said this too, I don't remember now. But Prabhupada also made > it clear to us that Krishna doesn't have any obligation to eat what we > offer Him--even if we are pure--what to speak of if we aren't. Prasada > isn't always so just because people think or claim it as such, just as it > is with so-called gurus. > > I've repeatedly asked about the original source of this Jaipur story, > because only a bonafide authority with aparoksha vision can really know > when Krishna actually accepts offerings and eats. > Often enough, it just isn't so easy even for those with the highest > qualifications to get Krishna to eat (cf. Bhagavatam, 10.11.13). But just > imagine if we can succeed! HG Mukunda Datta Prabhu is perfectly right. Only the author of the book Dr. OBL Kapoor must have known the original source. But it is very clear from Prabhupada's purports that actually Krsna & the Vaisnavas do not accept this kind of offerings. Cc Antya 6.276 purport: "Because of their ignorance, however, they cannot understand that since their minds are materially polluted, neither the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Krsna, nor the Vaisnavas accept their offerings. If one accepts money from such materialistic persons to offer food to the Deity and Vaisnavas, a pure Vaisnava does not accept it. This causes unhappiness for the materialists because they are fully absorbed in the bodily conception of life. Therefore they sometimes turn against the Vaisnavas." The story of the prostitute is quite consistent with this understanding considering the fact that Govindadeva's pujari refused to accept the money of the prostitute in the beginning knowing that Govindadevaji does not accept such offerings. But Govindadevaji relented afterwards seeing the determination of the devotee turned prostitute to serve Him. Now the question can be raised that how after Govindadevaji accepted it how did the sinful reactions remain in the mahaprasadam and it affected the Vaisnavas who ate it? I feel this is answered in the above purport: "If one accepts money from such materialistic persons to offer food to the Deity and Vaisnavas, a pure Vaisnava does not accept it." Here Prabhupada is making this statement after saying that the Deity and Vaisnavas don't accept it. So this statement does sound like he is talking of the case when the Deity accepts it. Let's analyse this statement: "If one accepts money from such materialistic persons to offer food to the Deity and Vaisnavas" It means that assuming the money is accepted and food is offered to the Deity already... "a pure Vaisnava does not accept it" It should mean that a pure Vaisnava does not accept even such mahaprasadam. That's what Govindadeva told the sadhus that who had told you to eat it without finding out the source. I just told the pujari to offer it to Me. You should have taken a grain to honour it. Even Gaura Kishore Dasa Babaji used to instruct his followers like this as Mukunda Datta Prabhu points out. Even Lord Caitanya was hesitant in eating the feasts cooked & offered by the greatest devotee Srila Raghunatha dasa Goswami because they were apparently sponsored by pounds & shilling men i.e the father & uncle of RDG. Imagine the great devotee like RDG cooking and offering it to the Lord but still the Lord was happy when He was stopped from being invited after two years and said visayera anna kaile malina haile mana. Bhagavan Acharya, a mahabhagavata cooked for LC white rice brought by Chota Haridasa (a renunciate) from Madhavi devi. When LC ate the rice he asked about who has brought it and from where and then He banished Chota Haridasa from His association. Now the question is raised that aham tvam sarve papebhyo... when Krsna accepts He takes away all the sinful reaction in the food, then why is this happening? But we have forgotten that Krsna says sarva dharman parityjya mam ekam saranam vraja. When you abandon all your so-called religions and surrender unto Me fully, it is then and only then that Krsna takes away all the sinful reactions. Cc Antya 6.276 "If one engages for the service of the Lord whatever money one has honestly earned, that is spiritual service to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the spiritual master and the Vaisnavas." Even if it is mahaprasad but Krsna accepts according to the surrender of the person who is offering. Therefore there are different degrees of mahaprasadam as Dvarkadhisa Prabhu points out. > We have 3 persons and 3 stages (kanistha,etc) and 3 gunas influencing > mental condition. So, looks like we can have so many varietes of prasadam. There is devotional service mixed with ignorance, passion & goodness. Similarly the offerings to the Lord or to his devotees are also mixed with ignorance, passion & goodness depending upon the persons & the circumstances involved. I would conclude with this verse from Cc spoken by LC Himself: visayira anna haya `rajasa' nimantrana data, bhokta--dunhara malina haya mana "When one accepts an invitation from a person contaminated by the material mode of passion, the person who offers the food and the person who accepts it are both mentally contaminated. PURPORT Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura says that there are three varieties of invitations-those in the mode of goodness, those in passion and those in ignorance. An invitation accepted from a pure devotee is in the mode of goodness, an invitation accepted from a person who is pious but materially attached is in the mode of passion, and an invitation accepted from a person who is materially very sinful is in the mode of ignorance. Your servant, Nayana-rañjana d€sa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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