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Dandavats. Jaya Prabhupada!

 

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Krsna Candra (das) SNS (Zurich - CH) wrote:

> Sorry, I think you misunderstood this quote:

> "Srila Vishvanatha cakravarti Thakur has given us a transcendental literary

> work entitled Krishna Bhavanamrta, which is full with Krishna's pastimes.

> Exalted devotees can remain absorbed in Krishna-thought by reading such

> books. Any book of krishna lila, even this book, Krishna, or our Teachings

> of Lord Caitanya, is actually solace for devotees feeling separation from

> Krishna."

> I did certainly not compare RCM with Vishvanathas works.

> I just wanted to point out, that RCM is also "actually solace for devotees

> feeling separation" from his isthadeva.

>

I see. Unfortunately, I not only spoke too harshly to you, but I

was also *wrong.* So I apologize and I hope you will forgive me. I

remain your humble servant. Hare Krishna.

 

MDd

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dear devotees

 

pamho agtsp, saviour of the fallen!

 

I have a theoretical question here - could you help answer it please? I do

not know if it fits well in the context of the discussion below, but just

based on the extract below, this theoretical question came to my mind - is

it of any relevance to this discussion? But in any case the question cd

stand on its own. I am doubtful of some of the terminologies i have used so

maybe some kind devotee can comment or improve on the concept. thank you

 

here is the question.

 

If a devotee (is so advanced that he) is able to feel separation, he should

be already a rasika devotee (is this statement correct?).

Then if he is already a 'rasika' devotee, would he be able to actually

relish the mellows of separation by reading a book which is written by

another personality who is not also on the rasika platform? Would he

actually find solace there?

Is this not the very reason why Svarupa Damodara Gosai was screening all

so-called 'vaishnava' literature that was being presented to Mahaprabhu? He

would only allow certain writings which passed his 'rasika' test to be read

by Mahaprabhu who was then absorbed continuously in Mahabhava, hidden from

public view. It appears that those literatures written by non-rasika

devotees, albeit theorietically correct from the ordinary viewpoint, would

have actually disturbed the rasa that mahaprabhu was relishing instead of

enhancing Mahaprabhu's divine sentiments that non-rasikas cannot even

conceive.

 

is the above understanding in order siddhantically? thank you for your

comments

 

 

yr servant

 

dina

 

 

M. Tandy [mpt@u.washington.edu]

Friday, March 10, 2000 5:10 AM

(Krsna) Katha

Re: Tulasidas

 

 

 

 

Dandavats. Jaya Prabhupada!

 

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Krsna Candra (das) SNS (Zurich - CH) wrote:

> Sorry, I think you misunderstood this quote:

> "Srila Vishvanatha cakravarti Thakur has given us a transcendental

literary

> work entitled Krishna Bhavanamrta, which is full with Krishna's pastimes.

> Exalted devotees can remain absorbed in Krishna-thought by reading such

> books. Any book of krishna lila, even this book, Krishna, or our Teachings

> of Lord Caitanya, is actually solace for devotees feeling separation from

> Krishna."

> I did certainly not compare RCM with Vishvanathas works.

> I just wanted to point out, that RCM is also "actually solace for devotees

> feeling separation" from his isthadeva.

>

I see. Unfortunately, I not only spoke too harshly to you, but I

was also *wrong.* So I apologize and I hope you will forgive me. I

remain your humble servant. Hare Krishna.

 

MDd

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On 10 Mar 2000, Dina-Anukampana Dasa wrote:

It appears that those literatures written by non-rasika

> devotees, albeit theorietically correct from the ordinary viewpoint,

> would have actually disturbed the rasa that mahaprabhu was

> relishing instead of enhancing Mahaprabhu's divine sentiments that

> non-rasikas cannot even conceive.

> is the above understanding in order siddhantically? thank you for your

> comments

I think you're completely correct, and that this is an important

topic; I just don't want to argue about it. I don't have the time. There's no

reason why a pure devotee wouldn't relish the works of any vaishnava who

belongs to another sampradaya, unless the work in question is shot through

with rasabhasa, as is usually the case. Someone else would know better, but

as far as I know, only the Gaudiya vaishnavas explicitly recognize the

existence of rasabhasa to begin with. My experience has been that Suradasa,

Mira, and Tulasidas, etc. are generally contaminated with rasabhasa. But even

though it's very important, rasabhasa isn't easy to understand at all, and

Srila Prabhupada hasn't given us much theory about it in detail; so we should

also be as cautious here as in other areas. Caitanya-caritamrita,

Madhya-lila, 10.111-114 as well as 14.157 are good references; they refer to

the Bhakti-rasamrita-sindhu too. Antya-lila, 5.91-134 is better: text 97 goes

into some detail about rasabhasa, texts 103-105 hint at the standards of

adhikara we would do well to consider before publishing our own compositions,

and text 120 indicates the gravity of the matter--note it's use of exclamation

marks. I hope this helps. Hare Krishna.

 

MDd

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