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At 06:09 AM 7/5/00 +0000, Nayana-ranjana (das) (BBT Bombay - IN) wrote:

 

>There are two ways of foregoing sense pleasure. Either control the senses in

>youth, or remain insanely attached and watch old age, disease and infirmity

>slowly take away the objects one by one. The first is very conducive to

>awakening great happiness, while the second brings unlimited sorrow. The

>charade of the impotent old bhogi pretending to be a pious brahmachary is

>pitiable.

 

Please, prabhu, you *must* supply references for these. "Who said that?" is

what anyone would want to know.

 

Humbly,

gkdas

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In a message dated 7/5/00 1:20:21 AM Central Daylight Time,

Nayana-ranjana (AT) pamho (DOT) net writes:

 

<<

There are two ways of foregoing sense pleasure. Either control the senses in

youth, or remain insanely attached and watch old age, disease and infirmity

slowly take away the objects one by one. The first is very conducive to

awakening great happiness, while the second brings unlimited sorrow. The

charade of the impotent old bhogi pretending to be a pious brahmachary is

pitiable.

>>

 

I follow a different spiritual master than you; he said:

 

çravaëaà kértanaà viñëoù

smaraëaà päda-sevanam

arcanaà vandanaà däsyaà

sakhyam ätma-nivedanam

[sB 7.5.23]

 

So there are nine, not just two ways of forgoing sense pleasure. Everybody

has a bad transit from time to time; this may be yours. You've put up a lot

of "good stuff", but sometimes less is more. If you want to make commentary,

and I'm not so sure Katha is the right place for it, at least try to present

from your own level of realization. You can be fixed in sense control

early, or become attached to a dear at the end and have to take material

birth. Similarly, "the impotent old bhogi pretending to be a pious

brahmachary" is not precluded from receiving the mercy of the lord, or the

devotees.

 

Where you got this image from would give some useful information as to your

psychospiritual orientation. Seeing something as pitiable denotes a sense of

superiority on the observer who is doing the pitying. A vaisnava is, "Vancha

kalpa...full of compassion-sympathy, sym-, with, not pity-for the fallen

soul, or the old bhogi. Jnana you may have, but try for some vijnana

by changing your pity to compassion and feeding that old fart some tasty

RadhaRasiBihari-yum-prashad.

 

 

<<Please, prabhu, you *must* supply references for these. "Who said that?" is

what anyone would want to know.

 

Humbly,

gkdas >>

 

I didn't think who, but why?

 

I say, give it a rest prabhu; take a week off from "speaking" to allow that

bad transits to past. It will give this aging bhogi a chance to catch up wih

my sense objects and e-mail.

 

your very fallen bhogi, pretender,

Jayo dasa

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So who did say that?

 

Several times before I have written to Nayan Prabhu asking for references

for quotations he has posted, but he has not responded.

 

Surely we all want to know the source...

 

yrs in service

 

dina

 

 

guru-krsna das [afn39393 (AT) afn (DOT) org]

Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:42 PM

Brahmacarya; (Krsna) Katha; Krsna-krpa (das) SDG (BI) (Alachua, FL -

USA)

Real intelligence

 

 

At 06:09 AM 7/5/00 +0000, Nayana-ranjana (das) (BBT Bombay - IN) wrote:

 

>There are two ways of foregoing sense pleasure. Either control the senses

in

>youth, or remain insanely attached and watch old age, disease and infirmity

>slowly take away the objects one by one. The first is very conducive to

>awakening great happiness, while the second brings unlimited sorrow. The

>charade of the impotent old bhogi pretending to be a pious brahmachary is

>pitiable.

 

Please, prabhu, you *must* supply references for these. "Who said that?" is

what anyone would want to know.

 

Humbly,

gkdas