Guest guest Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 > At first he went to the > forest, completely determined to see the Supreme Lord, by the inspiration > of his mother Sunitha. Was he already aware of devotional service because > of being raised as a King's son? Not necessarily. In BRS Rupa Goswami cites Dhruva Maharaja as an example of 'artharthi' i.e. going to Krsna for wealth. He goes on to say that arta. atharthi, jigyasu & jnani all fall in a category which is even lower than the platform of a kanishtha-adhikari bhakta. But they can also come to highest platform of an uttama by associating with a pure devotee. > And how does Lord Krsna consider > devotional service to Him, before one meets his initiating spiritual > master? Sunitha was his first spiritual guide, but it was not formal > initiation. Can a person advance within devotinal service without an > initiating guru, but with instructions from a siksha guru? Surely why not. Initiation is not required to begin the chanting of the Holy Name and thus begin our progress in spiritual life. diksa-purascarya-vidhi apeksa na kare jihva-sparse a-candala sabare uddhare Cc 15.108 TRANSLATION "One does not have to undergo initiation or execute the activities required before initiation. One simply has to vibrate the holy name with his lips. Thus even a man in the lowest class [candala] can be delivered. FROM PURPORT: [...] "Although Deity worship is not essential, the material conditioning of most candidates for devotional service requires that they engage in this activity. [...] In other words, the chanting of the Hare Krsna maha-mantra is so powerful that it does not depend on official initiation, but if one is initiated and engages in pancaratra-vidhi (Deity worship), his Krsna consciousness will awaken very soon, and his identification with the material world will be vanquished. Similarly, the Ramarcana-candrika states: vinaiva diksam viprendra purascaryam vinaiva hi vinaiva nyasa-vidhina japa-matrena siddhi-da "O best of the brahmanas, even without initiation, preliminary purification or acceptance of the renounced order, one can attain perfection in devotional service simply by chanting the Lord's holy name." So in other words, chanting is sufficient to liberate us but the whole process is speeded up and success is completely assured if we accept the shelter of a bona-fide self-realized spiritual master through the process of diksha. Thus Prabhupada also quotes in the above purport from the different scriptures like Visnu Yamala, Hari Bhakti Vilasa, Bhakti Sandarbha, the ultimate importance of diksha for advancement in spiritual life. Regarding whether guidance from a siksha guru is sufficient, Prabhupada says in the context of Dhruva's example only that a siksha guru generally goes on to become one's diksha guru at a later stage. And if it is not possible for the siksha guru to become one's diksha guru, then it is normally understood that one should look out for and surrender to a maha-bhagavata diksha guru. Ofcourse if his siksha guru is a very elevated pure devotee, then he should try by all means to take diksha from him. If the devotee is following the rules & regulations of bhakti especially the chanting of the holy names, the progress of the devotee will be there even if he doesn't take diksha. But diksha & full surrender to a wholly (100%) good preceptor (SBSST) will speeden up and ensure his completely success in spiritual life. I will conclude with the views of Srila Bhaktisiddhnata on diksha which reinforces the view that diksha is very helpful process in achieving pure love of God: The ceremony of diksha, or initiation, is that by which the Spiritual Preceptor admits one to the status of a neophyte on the path of spiritual endeavor. The ceremony tends to confer spiritual enlightenment by abrogating sinfulness. Its actual effect depends on the degree of willing cooperation on the part of the disciple. It is, therefore, not the same in all cases. It does not preclude the possibility of the novice reverting to the non-spiritual state--if he slackens in his effort or misbehaves. Initiation puts a person on the true track and also imparts an initial impulse to go ahead. It cannot, however, keep one going for Good unless one chooses to put forth his own voluntary effort. The nature of the initial impulse also varies in accordance with the condition of the recipient. Although the mercy of the Good Preceptor enables us to have a glimpse of the Absolute and of the path to His attainment, the seed thus sown requires very careful tending under the direction of the Preceptor. Only then will it germinate and grow into the fruit-and-shade-giving tree. After obtaining a working idea of his real nature, unless our soul, of his own accord, chooses to serve Krishna, he cannot long retain the Spiritual Vision. The soul is never compelled by Krishna to serve Him. Still, initiation is never altogether futile. It changes the disciple's outlook on life. If he sins after initiation, he may fall into greater depths of degradation than the uninitiated. Although, even after initiation, temporary setbacks may occur, they do not ordinarily prevent the final deliverance. The faintest glimmering of the real knowledge of the Absolute has sufficient power to radically change for Good our whole mental and physical constitution. This glimmering is incapable of being totally extinguished--except in extraordinarily unfortunate cases. Vaisnava dasabhas Nayana-ranjana das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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