chanting of 16 rounds

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Pamho. AgtSP.

 

I have heard, that there may be some ISKCON devotees, who are socially

accepted as bonafide, but do not chant their rounds. Can we understand, that

in Srila Prabhupadas eyes, they are not even vaisnavas, but cheaters? Can

they be at all a part of ISKCON, if they do not follow the promises, which

they have given while entering ISKCON? Also, can we say, that if one doesn't

follow rules as given by Srila Prabhupada, and makes some philosophy out of

it, he is considered by Srila Prabhupada as sahajiya?

 

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> If I cannot finish my sixteen rounds due to some business, then next day I

> must finish it. If you say that “Next day also, I am busy,” then you

> should forego your eating and sleeping and finish it. That is the way. You

> are so busy, but you do not forget your eating and sleeping. That is

> cheating. If you are so busy that you forget your eating and sleeping,

> then I can consider that you are very busy. But you do not forget this

> portion. “Whenever there is opportunity, I sleep and eat. And I have no

> time for chanting”—this is cheating. How long you can go on by cheating?

> You must finish it. Hare K™¢a.

> Somebody, after initiation he promises, “Yes, I shall follow these rules

> and regulations. I shall chant sixteen rounds,” before the fire, before

> the Deity, before the guru, and if he does not follow, then he is a

> cheater. What to speak of his becoming a Vai¢ava, he is a cheater. He

> breaks all his promises. Therefore after seeing, observing a person is

> doing every thing, then say second initiation, or then he should not be

> recommended for second initiation unless the president and the other

> authorities see that he is doing nicely, he is following. Otherwise he

> should not be recommended. If he is recommended, that is also another

> cheating. If you know that this person is not following the rules and

> regulation, then why should you recommend him? Then it is another

> cheating. Vaiddhi-bhakti [“devotional service following the prescribed

> rules and regulations”] must be followed; otherwise it becomes sahajiy€.

> [“…A class of so-called devotees {who} follow their own concocted ideas

> and, representing themselves as K™¢a and R€dh€, indulge in debauchery.”]

> Morning walk, Hyderabad 20 April 1974