Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 > With reference to CANTO 3 chapters 29 -31, wherein the condition of the > soul in the womb is mentioned, there are also prayers which the soul makes > while in the womb. > The soul actually remembers his eternal relationship with lord and also > the purpose for which he has to come to the material world. > > Someone mentioned that ONLY DEVOTEE SOULS MAKE SUCH PRAYERS...said > Prabhupada....Does anyone have reference for this...? > Also if above is true then what about general souls and what about the > souls in womb of demons?.....What do they pray or do they pray at > all..????? And what about animal souls...? > > ANYONE HAVING ANY INFO.....plz give reference...........???? Srimad Bhagavatam presented the situation of the soul while in the womb of the mother, that is being of the prayerful and repentance nature, and thus made a promise of rekindling his relationship with the Supreme Lord once he is out of the womb. However upon getting out of the womb, he immediately forgets all the promises made etc. Regarding your questions on whether all souls pray including the demons. In reality, there is no demon soul. Soul is pure and thus divine by nature, as he is part and parcel of the Supreme Lord, and the Lord's eternal servant. However material association makes him forgets this nature, and thus temporary dress of a demon is worn by him. As Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura clearly demonstrated in the Jaiva Dharma that the soul's material nature is consequential of occasional duties that was adopted by the otherwise pure jiva. Jiva is pure by nature and eternal servant of God. However occassional duties or material duties awards him temporary designations. I have never read that only devotee souls make prayers in the womb. Since soul is pure by nature, there can be question of devotee soul or demon soul. The soul is soul, eternal servant of Krishna. In Krishna lila, any demons killed by Him, immediately attained their eternal status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 On Monday, April 12, 2004, at 06:12 pm, Isvara (das) GGS (Vrindavana - IN) wrote: > Srimad Bhagavatam presented the situation of the soul while in the > womb of > the mother, that is being of the prayerful and repentance nature, and > thus > made a promise of rekindling his relationship with the Supreme Lord > once he > is out of the womb. However upon getting out of the womb, he > immediately > forgets all the promises made etc. > Regarding your questions on whether all souls pray including the > demons. In > reality, there is no demon soul. Soul is pure and thus divine by > nature, as > he is part and parcel of the Supreme Lord, and the Lord's eternal > servant. > However material association makes him forgets this nature, and thus > temporary dress of a demon is worn by him. As Srila Bhaktivinoda > Thakura > clearly demonstrated in the Jaiva Dharma that the soul's material > nature is > consequential of occasional duties that was adopted by the otherwise > pure > jiva. Jiva is pure by nature and eternal servant of God. However > occassional > duties or material duties awards him temporary designations. > > I have never read that only devotee souls make prayers in the womb. > Since > soul is pure by nature, there can be question of devotee soul or demon > soul. > The soul is soul, eternal servant of Krishna. In Krishna lila, any > demons > killed by Him, immediately attained their eternal status. What a nice e-mail, Isvara prabhu. Thank you. I wanted to say that the idea of "devotee souls" sounded a bit elitist to me, but I didn't want to get my head bitten off! :-) Ys., Rama Kesava das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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