Guest guest Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 ®r…mad-Bh€gavatam 1.8.27 -- Los Angeles, April 19, 1973 namo ’kiñcana vitt€ya nivtta-guŠa-vttaye €tm€r€m€ya €nt€ya kaivalya-pataye namaƒ “My obeisances are unto You, who are the property of the materially impoverished. You have nothing to do with the actions and reaction of the material modes of nature. You are self-satisfied, and therefore You are the most gentle and are master of the monists.” Prabhup€da: So namaƒ akiñcana-vitt€ya. Materially impoverished. This is the first qualification of a devotee. One who does not possess anything of this material world, he simply possess KŠa. That is akiñcana-vitta. Akiñcana means one who has lost everything of material possession. Because if you have got a, a small tinge of idea that “I want to become happy materially in this way,” so long you have to accept a body. The nature is so kind that in whichever way you want to enjoy this material world, she will give you a suitable body under the direction of the Lord. Because Lord is situated everyone’s heart. So He knows everything, that you still want something material. He will give you. “Yes, you take it.” KŠa wants that you get full experience that by material gain, you’ll never be happy. This is KŠa’s business. It’s full freedom. Although we have got minute quantity of freedom, because we are part and parcel of KŠa. KŠa has got full freedom, but the freedom quality is there in me because I am part and parcel of KŠa. The chemical composition. The drop of sea water has got a drop of salt also. Although it is not comparable with the salt containing in the sea water. But the salt chemical is there. This is our understanding. Janm€dy asya yataƒ [sB 1.1.1]. Whatever we have got in minute quantity, the same thing, in fullness is there in KŠa. In fullness. Just like KŠa says: mtyuƒ sarva-hara ca aham. Now we have got a propensity to take other’s thing. You can say it is stealing. We have got that propensity. Why? Now KŠa has got. KŠa is known as the Butter-thief. The beginning, thiefing, stealing. So unless that stealing propensity’s there, how I can get? But KŠa’s stealing and my stealing is different. Because I am materially contaminated, therefore my stealing is abominable. Whereas the same stealing in the spiritual absolute platform is so nice that enjoyable. Mother Yaod€ enjoying the activities of stealing by KŠa. That is the difference. Material and spiritual. Any activities spiritual, that is all good, and any activity, material, that is all bad. This is the difference. Here, the so-called morality, goodness, they’re all bad. And in the spiritual world, so-called immorality is also good. That you have to understand. Just like to dance with others’ wives at dead of night, this is immoral. Everyone knows. At least in the Vedic civilization, it is not allowed. A young woman is going to another young man at dead of night to dance with him. This will never be allowed in India. Still it is prohibited. But we find that all the gop…s as soon as they heard the flute immediately they came. So from material conception it is immoral, but from the spiritual conception, it is the greatest morality. Just like Caitanya Mah€prabhu says: ramy€ k€cid up€san€ vraja-vadh™-vargeŠ€ y€ kalpit€. “Oh, there is no better mode of worship than what was conceived by the vraja-vadh™s, the damsels of Vnd€vana.” Caitanya Mah€prabhu was very strict about women. In His family life also, He never played any joke with women. He was very joking. But all, all with men. He never played any joke with women. No. Perhaps only once He played joke with His wife, ViŠu-priya. When ®ac…m€t€ was searching after something, she, He simply played a joking word: “Maybe your daughter-in-law has taken it.” That is the only joking we find in His whole life. Otherwise, He was very strict. No woman could come, when He was sanny€s…, could come hear Him to offer obeisances. They would offer obeisances from a distant place. But He says: ramy€ k€cid up€san€ vraja-vadh™-vargeŠ€ y€ kalpit€. He says that there is no conception of worshiping better than what was conceived by the vraja-vadh™s. And what was the vraja-vadh™s’ conception? That they wanted to love KŠa, at any risk. So this is not immoral. That we have to understand. Anything in relationship. Just like Prahl€da Mah€r€ja. Prahl€da Mah€r€ja is standing, and his father is being killed. Is it moral? Would you like to see your father being killed in your presence and you stand. You don’t protest. Is that moral? Nobody will approve it, that this is moral. But actually it so happened that HiraŠyakaipu was being killed... The picture is here. And Prahl€da Mah€r€ja is trying to garland—the killer. “My dear Lord, Killer, You take this garland. You are killing my father. You are very good boy.” You see. This is, this is spiritual understanding. Nobody will sanction that you, if you cannot protect your father, you must protest, you must cry that: “Here is my father is being killed. Come on, come on, come on. Help...” No. He’s prepared with the garland. And when he was killed, he said to Nsiˆhadeva: “My dear Lord, now my father is killed. So everyone is happy. You now wind up Your angry mood.” Nobody is unhappy. He said this very word. Modeta s€dhur api vcika-sarpa-haty€. Modeta s€dhur api. A s€dhu, a saintly person never approves that one should be killed. Never. Even an animal. A s€dhu does not approve. Why animal should be killed? That is s€dhu’s business. But Prahl€da Mah€r€ja says: modeta s€dhur api. A s€dhu, a saintly person, is also pleased... When? When a scorpion or a snake is killed. They’re also living entity. A s€dhu is never satisfied seeing another living entity being killed, but Prahl€da Mah€r€ja says “Even a s€dhu is pleased when a snake is killed or a scorpion is killed. So my father is just like snake and scorpion. So he’s killed. Therefore everyone is happy.” Everyone was... Such demon, who simply troubles the devotees, such demon, a very dangerous demon. So when such demon is killed, even saintly persons are satisfied. Although saintly persons, they do not want anybody should be killed. So KŠa is akiñcana-vitta. One who has lost everything materially, for him, KŠa is the only solace. So KŠa is so kind that if anyone wants material prosperity, and, at the same time, wants to become a devotee... That is stated in the Caitanya-carit€mta that: “Somebody wants Me. At the same time, he wants material prosperity. He’s a fool. He’s a fool.” Therefore people are very much afraid, coming to KŠa consciousness. “Oh, my material prosperity will be finished.” Because they want, don’t, do not want that. They want to stick to... Generally, they go to church, go to temple for material prosperity. “God give us our daily bread.” This is material prosperity. Or “Give me this, give me that.” But they’re also considered as pious because they have approached God. The atheist class, they do not approach. They say: “Why shall I approach God? I shall create my wealth, by advancement of science, I shall be happy.” They are duktinaƒ, most sinful, one who says like that, that: “For my prosperity, I shall depend on my own strength, my own knowledge.” They are duktinaƒ. But one who thinks that “My prosperity depends on the mercy of God,” they’re pious. They’re pious. Because, after all, without sanction of God, nothing can be achieved. That’s a fact. T€vad tanur idaˆ tan™pekit€n€m(?). That is also statement of That we have discovered so many counter-acting methods for diminishing our distressed condition, but if it is not sanctioned by God, these counteracting proposition will fail. The example is... Just like you have discovered nice medicine, very qualified physician. That’s all right. But when a man is sick, ask the physician: “Can you guarantee the life of this patient?” He’ll never say: “No, I can do so. I cannot do that. I try my best. That’s all.” That means the sanction is in the hand of God. “I am simply instrument. If God does not like that you should live, then all my medicines, all my scientific knowledge, medical knowledge, will fail.” The ultimate sanction is KŠa’s. They, the foolish persons, they do not know. They are, they are, therefore they are called m™ha, rascals. That whatever you are doing, that is very good, but, ultimately, if it is not sanctioned by God, by KŠa, this will be all failure. They do not know that. Therefore they are m™has. And a devotee knows that: “Whatever intelligence, I have got, I may try to become happy, if KŠa does not sanction, I’ll never be happy.” This is the distinction between devotee and nondevotee. So KŠa says that: “Anyone who is trying to approach Me, to become KŠa conscious, at the same time, he wants to become materially happy, he’s not very intelligent.” That means he’s wasting his time. Our main business is how to become KŠa conscious. This is the main business of human life. But if we waste our time for material improvement, and forget chanting, then that is loss, great loss. So such mentality, KŠa says: €mi vijña ei m™rkhe viaya kene diba. “So this rascal is asking some material prosperity from Me by discharging devotional service. Why shall I give him material prosperity? Rather, whatever he has got, I shall take it away.” Yes. (laughter) It is not laughing. When it is taken away, we become very morose. But that is the test. That is stated by KŠa Himself to Yudhi˜hira Mah€r€ja: yasy€ham anughŠ€mi hariye tad dhanaˆ anaiƒ. Yudhi˜hira Mah€r€ja indirectly inquired from KŠa that: “We are completely dependent on you, and still we are suffering materially so much, that our kingdom is taken away, our wife is insulted, we were attempted to be burned in a house.” So KŠa said: “Yes that is My first business.” Yasy€ham anughŠ€mi hariye tad dhanaˆ anaiƒ. “If I specially favor anybody, then I take away all his sources of income.” Very dangerous. Yes. I have got my practical experience in this connection. Yes. That is KŠa’s special favor. I do not wish to narrate, but it is a fact. It is a fact. My Guru Mah€r€ja ordered me when I was twenty-five years old that: “You go and preach.” But I thought: “First of all, I shall become a rich man, and I shall use that money for preaching work.” So that’s a long history. I got good opportunity for becoming very rich man in business. And some astrologer told me that: “You should have become like Birla.” So there was some chances, very good chances. I was manager in a big chemical factory. I started my own factory, the business was very successful. But everything was dismantled. I was forced to come to this position to carry out my order of my Guru Mah€r€ja. Akiñcana-vitt€ya. When everything was finished, then I took KŠa, that: “You are the only...” Therefore KŠa is akiñcana-vitta. When one becomes finished of all his material opulences And now I am realizing that I have not lost. I’ve gained. I’ve gained. That’s a fact. So to lose material opulences for KŠa’s sake is not loss. It is the greatest gain. Therefore it is said: akiñcana-vitta. When one becomes akiñcana, nothing to possess, everything finished, then KŠa becomes the only riches for such person. Because he’s devotee. Just like Narottama d€sa µh€kura says: h€ h€ prabhu nanda-suta, vabh€nu-sut€-juta karuŠ€ karaha ei-b€ra narottama-d€sa koy, n€ ˜heliha r€‰g€ p€y tom€ bine ke €che €m€ra This position, that: “KŠa, except Yourself, I have nothing to claim. I have nothing, no possession. So don’t neglect me because You are my only possession.” This position is very nice. When we do not depend on anything material, simply depend on KŠa. That is first-class position of KŠa consciousness. Therefore KŠa is addressed: akiñcana-vitt€ya. “When one becomes impoverished materially, You are the only wealth.” Akiñcana-vitt€ya. Namaƒ akiñcana-vitta,... nivtta-guŠa-vttaye. “The result is that when one takes You as the only possession, immediately he becomes free from the activities of this material nature.” That means immediately he’s posted on the transcendental position of the Absolute. Akiñcana-vitt€ya nivtta-guŠa-vttaye, €tm€r€m€ya. “At that time, he becomes happy with You, as You are KŠa, You are happy with Yourself...” Because KŠa has no difference between body and self. He’s simply self, spirit soul. So we have got now this body and self. I am self, but I possess this body. Then when actually we become dependent on KŠa, as KŠa is self-satisfied, similarly we can e also self-satisfied with KŠa. Kaivalya, kaivalya-pataye namaƒ. The M€y€v€d… philosophers, they, monists, they want to become one with the Supreme. As Supreme is self-satisfied, they also want to be self-satisfied by becoming one with the Supreme. Our philosophy is also the same, kaivalya. But we depend on KŠa. We do not become one with, one with KŠa. That is oneness. If we simply agree to abide by the order of KŠa, there is no disagreement, that is oneness. These M€y€v€d… philosophers, they think that: “Why shall I keep my individual, separate existence? I shall become merged into...” That is not possible. Because we are created, not created, from the very beginning... We are separated part and parcel. We are separated parts and parcels. therefore KŠa says in the Bhagavad-g…t€: “My dear Arjuna, you, Me, and all these persons who have assembled in this battlefield, we were in the past individuals. We are, at present, individuals, and in the future, we shall continue to remain as individuals. We are all individual.” Nityo nity€n€ˆ cetana cetan€n€m. He’s the Supreme nitya, Supreme Living Force amongst many, innumerable living forces. We are j…va, innumerable, ananta. There is no counting how many we are. Sa ananty€ya kalpate. So this ananta, innumerable living entities, and KŠa is also a living entity, but He’s the chief. That is the difference. Nityo nity€n€... Just like there is leader. Leader is one, and followers, there are many. Similarly KŠa is the Supreme Living Entity, and we are subordinate, dependent living entities. That is the difference. Dependent, we can understand, if KŠa does not supply us food, we starve. That’s a fact. We cannot produce anything. Eko yo bah™n€ˆ vidadh€ti k€m€n. So KŠa is maintaining, and we are being maintained. Therefore KŠa shall be the predominator, and we shall be predominated. That is our natural constitutional position. Therefore if we want to become predominator falsely in this material world, that is illusion, That we must give up. That we must give up. We shall always try to become predominated by KŠa. That is successful life. Thank you very much. (end) ®r…mad-Bh€gavatam 1.8.28 -- Los Angeles, April 20, 1973 730420SB.LA Devotee: manye tv€ˆ k€lam …€nam an€di-nidhanaˆ vibhum samaˆ carantaˆ sarvatra bh™t€n€ˆ yan mithaƒ kaliƒ “My Lord, I consider Your Lordship to be eternal time, the Supreme Controller, without beginning and end, the all-pervasive one. In distributing Your mercy, You are equal to everyone. The dissensions between living beings are due to social intercourse.” Prabhup€da: In the Bhagavad-g…t€ KŠa says exactly the same thing. This is explained by Kunt…, a devotee. The same thing is spoken by the Lord Himself. Samo ’haˆ sarva-bh™teu na me dveyo ’sti na priyaƒ, ye tu bhajanti m€ˆ bhakty€ teu te mayi. God cannot be partial. That is not possible. Everyone is God’s son. So how God can be partial to one son and, better than the other son? That is not possible. That is our mistake. We write: “We trust in God,” but we make discrimination. If you trust in God, then you must be equally kind and merciful to all living entities. That is God consciousness. So KŠa says: “I have no enemies, neither I have got friends.” Na me dveyo ’sti na priyaƒ. Dveya means enemy. We, we are envious of our enemy and we are friendly to our friends. So KŠa is absolute. Even He appears to be inimical to some demon, actually He’s friend. When a demon is killed, that means his demonic activities are killed. He becomes a saint immediately. Otherwise how he’s promoted immediately to the brahmajyoti? All these demons who were killed by KŠa, they immediately merge into the brahmajyoti-nirviea. The only difference is, of course, the brahmajyoti, Param€tm€ and Bhagav€n. They are one. Vadanti tat tattva-vidas tattvam [sB 1.2.11]. That is one truth, Absolute Truth, in different features only. Brahmeti param€tmeti bhagav€n iti abdyate. Originally Bhagav€n, His plenary representation is Param€tm€ who is situated in everyone’s heart. Ÿvaraƒ sarva-bh™t€n€ˆ hd-dee ’rjuna ti˜hati [bg. 18.61]. The plenary portion K…rodaka€y… ViŠu, He is in everyone’s heart. That is Param€tm€. And Brahman, Param€tm€, and Bhagav€n. The ultimate issue is Bhagav€n. So ye yath€ m€ˆ prapadyante. Now He’s equal to everyone. It is up to the devotees or persons who are trying to understand the Supreme Absolute Truth. According to their capacity of understanding, the Absolute Truth, God, is revealed, either as impersonal Brahman or localized Param€tm€ or Bhagav€n. It is up to me. The same example as I have repeated many times. Just like we see sometimes the hills from our room. Here there are many hills in Los Angeles. But they are not distinct. When you are seeing the hills from a distant place, it looks like something cloudy. But if you go still further towards the hill, you’ll distinctly find that there is something, hill. And if you come to the hill, then you’ll find so many persons are working there, so many houses are there. There are streets, motorcars, everything, all varieties. So similarly, when one wants to know the Absolute Truth by his teeny brain, “I shall make research to find out the Absolute Truth,” then you’ll have vague idea, impersonal idea. And if you become a meditator, then you will find that God is situated within your heart. Dhy€n€vasthita-tad-gatena manas€ payanti yaˆ yoginaƒ [sB 12.13.1]. The yogis, the real yogis, they, by meditation, they see viŠu-m™rti within the heart. And those who are devotees, they meet the Supreme Person face to face just like we are meeting face to face, talk face to face, serve directly. The Supreme Personality of Godhead orders that: “You supply me this,” and he supplies. That is the difference. So samo ’haˆ sarva-bh™teu. He’s equal to everyone. Now it is up to you to understand Him according to your capacity. So Kunt… also says the same thing in this verse: samaˆ carantaˆ sarvatra. Samaˆ carantam. Carantam means moving. He is moving everywhere, outside, inside, simply we have to make our eyes clear to see Him. That is devotional service, to make our senses purified to perceive the presence of God. God is present everywhere. Antar bahiƒ. Antaƒ means within and bahiƒ means without. “Those who are less intelligent, they simply try to find out God within, and those who are advanced in intelligence, they can see You within and without.” That is the difference. Meditation is meant for the less intelligent class of men. Meditation means you have to control the senses. Yoga practice means yoga indriya-saˆyama. Our senses are very restless. By yoga practice, by, I mean to say, practicing different €sanas, so mind is controlled, the senses are controlled. Then we can concentrate upon the form of ViŠu with our heart. That is yoga system. Or those who are too much in bodily concept of life, for them the yoga system is recommended, practicing the bodily exercise, and find out the Supreme Lord within the heart. But bhaktas, those who are devotees, who are still more advanced, they don’t require to control their senses separately, because to be engaged in devotional service means controlling the senses. Suppose you are engaged in worshiping the Deity, in cleansing the room, in decorating the Deity, in making foodstuff for Deity, everything nicely... So your senses are already engaged. Where is the chance of your senses being diverted? The senses are already controlled. Because my senses, h…keŠa h…kea-sevanaˆ bhaktir ucyate [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. Bhakti means simply to engage the senses in the service of the master of the senses. H…kea means master of the senses, and h…ka means senses. So now our senses are engaged for sense gratification. Sarvop€dhi, up€dhi yuktaƒ. So I am this body. So I must satisfy my senses. This is the contaminated stage of life. But when one comes to the understanding that I am not this body, I am spirit soul, part and parcel of God, so my senses, spiritual senses, should be engaged in the service of the Supreme Spiritual Being. That is wanted. That is mukti. Mukti means: hitv€ anyath€-r™pam. When we are conditioned, we give up our original constitutional position. Our original constitutional position is, as Caitanya Mah€prabhu says: j…vera svar™pa haya nitya-kŠa-d€sa [Cc. Madhya 20.108-109]. Our original constitutional position is that we are eternal servant of KŠa. So as soon as we employ ourself in the service of the Lord, immediately we become liberated. Immediately. there is no question of passing through some process. This very process, to engage oneself, engage one’s senses in the service of the Lord, means he is liberated. So this liberation is open for everyone. Samaˆ carantam. KŠa does not say that: “You come to Me. You become liberated.” No. He’s open for everyone. He says: sarva-dharm€n parityajya m€m ekaˆ araŠaˆ vraja [bg. 18.66]. He speaks to everyone. Not that He’s speaking to Arjuna only. He’s speaking to everyone. Bhagavad-g…t€ is spoken not only for Arjuna. Arjuna is the, just like the target. But it is spoken for everyone, for all human beings. So one has to take advantage. Samaˆ carantam. He’s not partial that: “You become...” Just like the sunshine. The sunshine is not partial that: “Here is a poor man, here is a low-class man, here is a hog. I shall not distribute my shining there.” No. Sun is equal. One has to take advantage of it. The sunshine is there open, but if you close your door, if you want to keep yourself in airtight darkness, that is your business. Similarly KŠa is everywhere. KŠa is for everyone. KŠa is ready to accept you as soon as you surrender. Samaˆ carantam. There is no restriction. KŠa says: m€ˆ hi p€rtha vyap€ritya ye ’pi syuƒ p€pa-yonayaƒ [bg. 9.32]. They make distinction that this is lower class, this is higher class. So KŠa says, “Even lower class, so-called lower class, it doesn’t matter, if he takes to Me, then he’s also eligible to go, come back to home, back to Godhead.” Samaˆ carantam. And He’s the eternal time. Everything is going on within the time. The time... Our time calculation is past present, and future. This is relative. The other day we were discussing. This past, present, future is relative term. The, for a small insect, the past, present and future is different from my past, present and future. Relative term. Similarly Brahm€’s past, present and future is different from my past, present and future. But KŠa has no past, present and future. Therefore He’s eternal. We have got past, present and future because we change this body. Now we have got this body... It has got a date. In such and such date I was born by my father and mother. Now this body will stay for some time. It will grow. It will produce some by-product. Then it will become old. Then dwindle. Then vanish, finish. No more this body. You accept another body. this body’s finished. The history of this body, past, present, and future, finished. You accept another body. Again your past, present and future begins. But KŠa has no past, present, futures because He does not change His body. That is the difference between ourself and KŠa. Just like KŠa spoke to Arjuna that: “In the past, I spoke to the Sun-god about this philosophy, Bhagavad-g…t€.” So Arjuna could not believe it. Arjuna knew everything, but for our, our education, he put this question that: “KŠa, we are contemporary, we are born practically in the same period. How can I believe that You spoke this philosophy to the Sun-god?” And the reply was that: “My dear Arjuna, you were also present there, but you have forgotten. I have not forgotten. That is the difference.” Past, present, future, for persons who forget. But who does not forget, who remains eternally, there is no past, present, future. Therefore, Kunt… is addressing KŠa as eternal. Manye tv€ˆ k€lam. And because He is eternal, …€nam, He is full controller. Kunt… says: manye, “I think...” By the behavior of KŠa, she could understand that KŠa is eternal, KŠa is the Supreme Controller. An€di-nidhanam. An€di-nidhana... There is no beginning, there is no end. Therefore vibhum. Vibhu means the Supreme, the greatest. Vibhu. We are aŠu, we are smallest, and KŠa is the biggest. KŠa is also, because we are part and parcel of KŠa. Therefore KŠa is both the smallest and the biggest. We are simply smallest. But KŠa is both. KŠa, vibhu, greatest means all-inclusive. In the great, if you have got a big bag, you can hold so many things. In small bag you cannot do that. So KŠa is vibhu. He includes the time, past, present and future. He includes everything and He’s everywhere. That is vibhu. Vibhu, all-pervading. KŠa is everywhere. AŠ€ntara-stha-param€Šu-cay€ntara-stham. In the Brahma-saˆhit€ it is said that KŠa... Because without KŠa, the matter cannot develop. The scientists, the atheist scientists, they say that life comes out of matter. That is nonsense. No. Matter is one energy of KŠa, and spirit is another energy. The spirit is superior energy, and the matter is inferior energy. The matter develops when there is superior energy. Just like this country, America. The same America was two hundred years ago, three hundred years ago, the land, but it was not developed. But because some superior living entities from Europe came here, now America is so much developed. Therefore the cause of development is the superior energy. The inferior energy, there are so many vacant land lying still. Just like in Africa, Australia. They’re called “undeveloped.” Why undeveloped? Because the superior energy, living entity, has not touched it. As soon as the superior energy, living entity, will touch it, the same land will develop so many factories, houses, cities, roads, cars, everything, as we can develop. Therefore the conclusion is that matter cannot develop out of itself. No. That is not possible. The superior energy must touch it. Then it will be, will, active. There are so many machines. That is matter. Inferior energy. Unless a operator comes to touch the machine, it will not act. First-class motor car, very costly motor car machine, but unless a driver comes, it will stand for millions of years there. There is no use. This common sense is lacking. The matter cannot work independently unless the superior energy, living entity, touches it. This is common sense. So how these rascal scientists say that life develops from matter? No. How it can be concluded? There is no such instances. They falsely say that... They do not have sufficient knowledge. So these universes, they have also developed on account of KŠa’s presence. Therefore Brahma-saˆhit€ says: aŠ€ntara-stha-param€Šu-cay€ntara-s... They are studying now atoms. So many things are going on, electrons, protons, Why? Because the KŠa is there. This is really science. So KŠa has no past, present and future. He is eternal time. He has no beginning. He has no end. And He is equal to everyone. Samaˆ carantam. Simply we have to prepare ourself to see KŠa, to understand KŠa. That is the business of KŠa consciousness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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