Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

From Prabhupada's letter

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Guest guest

[This message was in HTML format]

 

Hare Krsna Dina Dayal prabhu. This is the full letter as it was sent to me(by

one very merciful devotee.)

your servant,

bh Jason

 

Bombay

4 February, 1972

72-02-04

 

My Dear Atreya Rsi,

Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your very nice letter of

January 10, 1972, and I am very much pleased by the sentiments expressed

therein. It is not so much that because there may be some faults in our

godbrothers and godsisters, or because there may be some mismanagement or

lack of cooperation, that this is due to being impersonalists, no. It is the

nature of the living condition to always have some fault. Even in the

Spiritual World there is some fault and envy--sometimes the Gopis will

quarrel over Krishna's favor, and once Krishna was so much attracted to

Radharani that by mistake he tried to milk the bull instead of the cow, and

sometimes when the Gopis used to put on their dress and make-up for seeing

Krishna, they would be too much hasty and smear kumkum and mascara in the

wrong places and their ornaments and dresses would appear as if small

children had been trying to dress themselves and they were not very expert,

like that. There are so many examples. But it is not the same as material

fault or material envy, it is transcendental because it is all based on

Krishna. Sometimes when one Gopi would serve Krishna very nicely, the others

would say, Oh, she has done so nicely, now let me do better for pleasing

Krishna. That is envy, but it is transcendental, without malice. So we shall

not expect that anywhere there is any Utopia. Rather, that is impersonalism.

People should not expect that even in the Krishna Consciousness Society

there will be Utopia. Because devotees are persons, therefore there will

always be some lacking--but the difference is that their lacking, because

they have given up everything to serve Krishna--money, jobs, reputation,

wealth, big educations, everything--their lackings have become

transcendental because, despite everything they may do, their topmost

intention is to serve Krishna. ``One who is engaged in devotional service,

despite the most abominable action, is to be considered saintly because he

is rightly situated.'' The devotees of Krishna are the most exalted persons

on this planet, better than kings, all of them, so we should always remember

that and, like the bumblebee, always look for the nectar or the best

qualities of a person. Not like the utopians, who are like the flies who

always go to the open sores or find the faults in a person, and because they

cannot find any utopia, or because they cannot find anyone without faults,

they want to become void, merge, nothing--they think that is utopia, to

become void of personality. So if there is sometimes slight disagreements

between devotees, it is not due to impersonalism, but it is because they are

persons, and such disagreements should not be taken very seriously. The

devotee is always pessimistic about the material world, but he is very

optimistic about the spiritual life; so in this way, you should consider

that anyone engaged in Krishna's service is always the best person.

I am very pleased that you are assisting your godbrothers so nicely. Yes,

this is our real position, to be servants of the servants of the servants.

And by your quiet and humble attitude, you shall set the example of Vaisnava

so that all may learn from you, and very soon their puffed-up attitude will

disappear and they will come to you and seek your advice in matters.

I am also encouraged that you are preaching to many businessmen

acquaintances. That is very important work, so speak to them very frankly

and with strength and conviction, and they will see, that even you are

yourself a big businessman with high position and salary, still, you are a

devotee, and they will also become devotees if you ask them. And if only a

few of such big businessmen become devotees, they can change the whole

world. So it a very great and responsible task, now do it very boldly and

Krishna will reward you with all success. The secret is to engage everyone,

even big businessmen; so at first engage them in some small way so they will

not feel threatened, but they will enjoy that small service so much,

automatically they will desire for more, and then gradually you convince

them by strong arguments and engage them more and more, and then they will

perfect their lives in Krishna Consciousness, and go back Home, back to

Godhead.

Hope this will meet you in good health,

Your ever well-wisher,

A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami

 

 

On Fri, 28 May 2004 Dina Dayala (das) SNS (Croatia) wrote :

>Anyone know exact date & place of these letter?

>I can not find it on VedaBase...

>

>Thanx,

>Your servant,

>Dina Dayala dasa

>

>

> > [This message was in HTML format]

> >

> >

> > >People should not expect that even in the Krishna Consciousness Society

> > >there will be Utopia. Because devotees are persons, therefore there will

> > >always be some lacking--but the difference is that their lacking,

> > because

> > >they have given up everything to serve Krishna--money, jobs, reputation,

> > >wealth, big educations, everything--their lackings have become

> > >transcendental because, despite everything they may do, their topmost

> > >intention is to serve Krishna. ``One who is engaged in devotional

> > service,

> > >despite the most abominable action, is to be considered saintly because

> > he

> > >is rightly situated.'' The devotees of Krishna are the most exalted

> > persons

> > >on this planet, better than kings, all of them, so we should always

> > remember

> > >that and, like the bumblebee, always look for the nectar or the best

> > >qualities of a person. Not like the utopians, who are like the flies who

> > >always go to the open sores or find the faults in a person, and because

> > they

> > >cannot find any utopia, or because they cannot find anyone without

> > faults,

> > >they want to become void, merge, nothing--they think that is utopia, to

> > >become void of personality. So if there is sometimes slight

> > disagreements

> > >between devotees, it is not due to impersonalism, but it is because they

> > are

> > >persons, and such disagreements should not be taken very seriously. The

> > >devotee is always pessimistic about the material world, but he is very

> > >optimistic about the spiritual life; so in this way, you should consider

> > >that anyone engaged in Krishna's service is always the best person.

> >

> > From A letter by Srila Prabhupada

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

I found it in VedaBase!

 

Letter to Atreya Rsi, Bombay 4 February 1972

 

 

 

Bombay

4 February, 1972

72-02-04

 

My Dear Atreya Rsi,

Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your very nice letter of

January 10, 1972, and I am very much pleased by the sentiments expressed

therein. It is not so much that because there may be some faults in our

godbrothers and godsisters, or because there may be some mismanagement or lack

of cooperation, that this is due to being impersonalists, no. It is the nature

of the living condition to always have some fault. Even in the Spiritual World

there is some fault and envy—sometimes the Gopis will quarrel over Krishna's

favor, and once Krishna was so much attracted to Radharani that by mistake he

tried to milk the bull instead of the cow, and sometimes when the Gopis used to

put on their dress and make-up for seeing Krishna, they would be too much hasty

and smear kumkum and mascara in the wrong places and their ornaments and

dresses would appear as if small children had been trying to dress themselves

and they were not very expert, like that. There are so many examples. But it is

not the same as material fault or material envy, it is transcendental because

it is all based on Krishna. Sometimes when one Gopi would serve Krishna very

nicely, the others would say, Oh, she has done so nicely, now let me do better

for pleasing Krishna. That is envy, but it is transcendental, without malice.

So we shall not expect that anywhere there is any Utopia. Rather, that is

impersonalism. People should not expect that even in the Krishna Consciousness

Society there will be Utopia. Because devotees are persons, therefore there

will always be some lacking—but the difference is that their lacking, because

they have given up everything to serve Krishna—money, jobs, reputation, wealth,

big educations, everything—their lackings have become transcendental because,

despite everything they may do, their topmost intention is to serve Krishna.

"One who is engaged in devotional service, despite the most abominable action,

is to be considered saintly because he is rightly situated.'' The devotees of

Krishna are the most exalted persons on this planet, better than kings, all of

them, so we should always remember that and, like the bumblebee, always look

for the nectar or the best qualities of a person. Not like the utopians, who

are like the flies who always go to the open sores or find the faults in a

person, and because they cannot find any utopia, or because they cannot find

anyone without faults, they want to become void, merge, nothing—they think that

is utopia, to become void of personality. So if there is sometimes slight

disagreements between devotees, it is not due to impersonalism, but it is

because they are persons, and such disagreements should not be taken very

seriously. The devotee is always pessimistic about the material world, but he

is very optimistic about the spiritual life; so in this way, you should

consider that anyone engaged in Krishna's service is always the best person.

I am very pleased that you are assisting your godbrothers so nicely. Yes, this

is our real position, to be servants of the servants of the servants. And by

your quiet and humble attitude, you shall set the example of Vaisnava so that

all may learn from you, and very soon their puffed-up attitude will disappear

and they will come to you and seek your advice in matters.

I am also encouraged that you are preaching to many businessmen acquaintances.

That is very important work, so speak to them very frankly and with strength

and conviction, and they will see, that even you are yourself a big businessman

with high position and salary, still, you are a devotee, and they will also

become devotees if you ask them. And if only a few of such big businessmen

become devotees, they can change the whole world. So it a very great and

responsible task, now do it very boldly and Krishna will reward you with all

success. The secret is to engage everyone, even big businessmen; so at first

engage them in some small way so they will not feel threatened, but they will

enjoy that small service so much, automatically they will desire for more, and

then gradually you convince them by strong arguments and engage them more and

more, and then they will perfect their lives in Krishna Consciousness, and go

back Home, back to Godhead.

Hope this will meet you in good health,

Your ever well-wisher,

A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami

ACBS:sda

 

-

"Dina Dayala (das) SNS (Croatia)" <Dina.Dayala.SNS (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

"Jason Anthony Rapp" <rappjason (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com>; "(Krsna) Katha"

<Katha (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

Friday, May 28, 2004 11:20 AM

From Prabhupada's letter

 

 

> Anyone know exact date & place of these letter?

> I can not find it on VedaBase...

>

> Thanx,

> Your servant,

> Dina Dayala dasa

>

>

> > [This message was in HTML format]

> >

> >

> > >People should not expect that even in the Krishna Consciousness Society

> > >there will be Utopia. Because devotees are persons, therefore there will

> > >always be some lacking--but the difference is that their lacking,

> > because

> > >they have given up everything to serve Krishna--money, jobs, reputation,

> > >wealth, big educations, everything--their lackings have become

> > >transcendental because, despite everything they may do, their topmost

> > >intention is to serve Krishna. ``One who is engaged in devotional

> > service,

> > >despite the most abominable action, is to be considered saintly because

> > he

> > >is rightly situated.'' The devotees of Krishna are the most exalted

> > persons

> > >on this planet, better than kings, all of them, so we should always

> > remember

> > >that and, like the bumblebee, always look for the nectar or the best

> > >qualities of a person. Not like the utopians, who are like the flies who

> > >always go to the open sores or find the faults in a person, and because

> > they

> > >cannot find any utopia, or because they cannot find anyone without

> > faults,

> > >they want to become void, merge, nothing--they think that is utopia, to

> > >become void of personality. So if there is sometimes slight

> > disagreements

> > >between devotees, it is not due to impersonalism, but it is because they

> > are

> > >persons, and such disagreements should not be taken very seriously. The

> > >devotee is always pessimistic about the material world, but he is very

> > >optimistic about the spiritual life; so in this way, you should consider

> > >that anyone engaged in Krishna's service is always the best person.

> >

> > From A letter by Srila Prabhupada

-

"Dina Dayala (das) SNS (Croatia)" <Dina.Dayala.SNS (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

"Jason Anthony Rapp" <rappjason (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com>; "(Krsna) Katha"

<Katha (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

Friday, May 28, 2004 11:20 AM

From Prabhupada's letter

 

 

> Anyone know exact date & place of these letter?

> I can not find it on VedaBase...

>

> Thanx,

> Your servant,

> Dina Dayala dasa

>

>

> > [This message was in HTML format]

> >

> >

> > >People should not expect that even in the Krishna Consciousness Society

> > >there will be Utopia. Because devotees are persons, therefore there will

> > >always be some lacking--but the difference is that their lacking,

> > because

> > >they have given up everything to serve Krishna--money, jobs, reputation,

> > >wealth, big educations, everything--their lackings have become

> > >transcendental because, despite everything they may do, their topmost

> > >intention is to serve Krishna. ``One who is engaged in devotional

> > service,

> > >despite the most abominable action, is to be considered saintly because

> > he

> > >is rightly situated.'' The devotees of Krishna are the most exalted

> > persons

> > >on this planet, better than kings, all of them, so we should always

> > remember

> > >that and, like the bumblebee, always look for the nectar or the best

> > >qualities of a person. Not like the utopians, who are like the flies who

> > >always go to the open sores or find the faults in a person, and because

> > they

> > >cannot find any utopia, or because they cannot find anyone without

> > faults,

> > >they want to become void, merge, nothing--they think that is utopia, to

> > >become void of personality. So if there is sometimes slight

> > disagreements

> > >between devotees, it is not due to impersonalism, but it is because they

> > are

> > >persons, and such disagreements should not be taken very seriously. The

> > >devotee is always pessimistic about the material world, but he is very

> > >optimistic about the spiritual life; so in this way, you should consider

> > >that anyone engaged in Krishna's service is always the best person.

> >

> > From A letter by Srila Prabhupada

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...