Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 > Sometimes mundane scholars object to Srila Prabhupada's use of the terms > Vedic and Vedic culture to mean Krsna consciousness or a culture centered > on Krsna consciousness, because Gaudiya Vaisnavism is not directly based > on the four Vedas, giving more importance to Srimad Bhagavatam and > Bhagavad-gita. However, as these two books convey the essence of and > fulfill the purpose of the Vedas, the teachings of Gaudiya Vaisnavism are > Vedic in the truest sense. > > Are there any quotes from sastra or explanations by Srila Prabhupada to > ratify this position? > > (Here is one quote that hints at the above) Artho 'yam brahma-sütranam: > Srimad-Bhagavatam is the original commentary on the Vedanta-sütra, written > by the author himself, Srila Vyasadeva. There is no point in doubting the authority of the Puranas and Mahabharata as parts and parcels of the Vedas. In the Chandogya Upanisad (7.1.4), the Puranas and Mahabharata, generally known as histories, are mentioned as the fifth Veda. According to Srila Jiva Gosvami, that is the way of ascertaining the respective values of the revealed scriptures. >>> Ref. VedaBase => SB 1.4.19 rg-yajuh-samatharvakhya vedas catvara uddhrtah itihasa-puranam ca pancamo veda ucyate SYNONYMS rg-yajuh-sama-atharva-akhyah -- the names of the four Vedas; vedah -- the Vedas; catvarah -- four; uddhrtah -- made into separate parts; itihasa -- historical records (Mahabharata); puranam ca -- and the Puranas; pancamah -- the fifth; vedah -- the original source of knowledge; ucyate -- is said to be. TRANSLATION The four divisions of the original sources of knowledge [the Vedas] were made separately. But the historical facts and authentic stories mentioned in the Puranas are called the fifth Veda. >>> Ref. VedaBase => SB 1.4.20 itihasa-puranani pancamam vedam isvarah sarvebhya eva vaktrebhyah sasrje sarva-darsanah SYNONYMS itihasa -- histories; puranani -- the Puranas (supplementary Vedas); pancamam -- the fifth; vedam -- the Vedic literature; isvarah -- the Lord; sarvebhyah -- all together; eva -- certainly; vaktrebhyah -- from his mouths; sasrje -- created; sarva -- all around; darsanah -- one who can see all time. TRANSLATION Then he created the fifth Veda -- the Puranas and the histories -- from all his mouths, since he could see all the past, present and future. PURPORT There are histories of particular countries and nations and of the world, but the Puranas are the histories of the universe, not only in one millennium, but in many kalpas. Brahma has knowledge of those historical facts, and therefore all the puranas are histories. As originally composed by Brahma, they are part of the Vedas and are called the fifth Veda. >>> Ref. VedaBase => SB 3.12.39 Being the eldest learned Vedantist, O Suta Gosvami, you are acquainted with the knowledge of Vyasadeva, who is the incarnation of Godhead, and you also know other sages who are fully versed in all kinds of physical and metaphysical knowledge. PURPORT Srimad-Bhagavatam is a natural commentation on the Brahma-sutra, or the Badarayani Vedanta-sutras. It is called natural because Vyasadeva is author of both the Vedanta-sutras and Srimad-Bhagavatam, or the essence of all Vedic literatures. Besides Vyasadeva, there are other sages who are the authors of six different philosophical systems, namely Gautama, Kanada, Kapila, Patanjali, Jaimini and Astavakra. Theism is explained completely in the Vedanta-sutra, whereas in other systems of philosophical speculations, practically no mention is given to the ultimate cause of all causes. One can sit on the vyasasana only after being conversant in all systems of philosophy so that one can present fully the theistic views of the Bhagavatam in defiance of all other systems. Srila Suta Gosvami was the proper teacher, and therefore the sages at Naimisaranya elevated him to the vyasasana. Srila Vyasadeva is designated herein as the Personality of Godhead because he is the authorized empowered incarnation. >>> Ref. VedaBase => SB 1.1.7 The Vedas are divided into four: Sama, Rg, Atharva and Yajur. Then these are explained by the Puranas, of which there are eighteen. Then these are still further explained by the Upanisads, of which there are 108. The Upanisads are summarized in the Vedanta-sutra, and the Vedanta-sutra is still again explained by the Srimad-Bhagavatam, by the same author. This is the process. So the Bhagavatam is the essence of all Vedic knowledge. >>> Ref. VedaBase => TYS 8: Sources of Absolute Knowledge nigama-kalpa-taror galitam phalam suka-mukhad amrta-drava-samyutam pibata bhagavatam rasam alayam muhur aho rasika bhuvi bhavukah TRANSLATION O expert and thoughtful men, relish Srimad-Bhagavatam, the mature fruit of the desire tree of Vedic literatures. It emanated from the lips of Sri Sukadeva Gosvami. Therefore this fruit has become even more tasteful, although its nectarean juice was already relishable for all, including liberated souls. PURPORT In the two previous slokas it has been definitely proved that the Srimad-Bhagavatam is the sublime literature which surpasses all other Vedic scriptures due to its transcendental qualities. It is transcendental to all mundane activities and mundane knowledge. In this sloka it is stated that Srimad-Bhagavatam is not only a superior literature but is the ripened fruit of all Vedic literatures. In other words, it is the cream of all Vedic knowledge. >>> Ref. 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