Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 > > Madhavananda Prabhu has here just given a very brief statement of what > > could be expanded unlimitedly. Mostly what Sadhu Maharaja has stated is > > OK, but the insinuation is that he's got an inside track to an even more > > powerful sadhana than what Srila Prabhupada gave to us, namely the > > chanting of the Hare Krishna Mahamantra on our diksa beads. Neither the > > fact that great ragatmika and raganuga bhaktas chanted the name of > > Gauranga constantly nor the fact that we are all advised to chant the > > name of Gauranga constantly imply that it should be chanted on beads > > without a specific order to do so from our guru. I havent' seen the original texts from which these comments are generated but this bit caught my eye and I can draw everyone's attention to what Srila Prabhupada said about chanting the names of the Panca-tattva on beads: September 6, 1976, Vrindavana Conversation in Garden [excerpt from T. Diary Vol. 4 -- see also recording of conversation in Folio] "Svayambhur wanted more clarification on what Srila Prabhupada had said about the chanting of nitai-gaura being a deviation. In his mind there was some contradiction, and he put it to Prabhupada to resolve. "Prabhupada, you wrote in the Caitanya-caritamrta that the Caitanya maha-mantra, sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu nityananda. ... there is no offence to that. And so therefore in the Kali-yuga it is actually more beneficial ..." Prabhupada repeated his comments made to Harikesa Maharaja. "Offence is that what is spoken by the acaryas, if you do not follow, that is offence. Guror avajna. To chant Gaura-Nitai is no offence. But if our previous gurus have chanted sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu nityananda sri-advaita-why should we go beyond that? That is guror avajna. Even there is no aparadha, because guru, Kaviraja Gosvami, has sung like that and my guru has sung, we should follow that. We should not make any deviation. That is guror avajna, sruti-sastra-nindanam; namno balad yasya hi papa-buddhih. So it comes to be one of the items of the dasa-vidha-aparadha [ten offences in chanting]. Guror avajna. "Is it more beneficial for people to hear the Panca-tattva mantra than the Hare Krsna maha-mantra?" Svayambhur asked. "Oh yes," Prabhupada told us. "You are going to Hare Krsna through Nitai-Gaura. Nitaiyer karuna habe braje radha-krsna pabe." But he added, "The principle is don't try to manufacture. Because you are not experienced, so what nonsense you will manufacture, that will be offensive. Better go on, the simple thing." Svayambhur said that he knew someone who chants the Panca-tattva mantra on his beads. Prabhupada raised his eyebrows. "Who?" "That boy Richard in Radha-kunda." He was referring to a tall thin New Yorker, liked by Srila Prabhupada and many devotees for his humble attitude, who has been living in Radha-kunda for quite a long time. Prabhupada shook his head in disapproval and sympathy. "Rascal. That is his bad association. Therefore I say don't follow these so-called Radha-kunda babajis. Nara-kunda babaji. And they smoke bidi. I have seen. Richard is still there?" Hope this helps to clarify things. Your humble servant, Hari-sauri dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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