Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Dear Prabhus, PAMHO, AGTSP Is it proper to worship two Govardhana silas as Sri Sri Radha Krsna (I mean one as Radharani and the other one as Krsna)? ys Maha Muni das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 At 13:07 8/01/02 +0100, Bhava Bhakti (dd) TVS (Warsaw - PL) wrote: >Dear Prabhus, PAMHO, AGTSP >Is it proper to worship two Govardhana silas as Sri Sri Radha Krsna (I mean >one as Radharani and the other one as Krsna)? >ys Maha Muni das At 13:07 8/01/02 +0100, you wrote: >Dear Prabhus, PAMHO, AGTSP >Is it proper to worship two Govardhana silas as Sri Sri Radha Krsna (I mean >one as Radharani and the other one as Krsna)? >ys Maha Muni das haribol, pamro., agtsp., In answer to your question; according to Srila Vishvanath Chakravarti Thakur it is acceptable and permissable, as some different coloured shila-stones on Govardhan hill represent different aspects of Krishna, His energies and pastimes. excerpt from Shri Vriti Chintamani by Shrila Vishvanatha Chakravarti Thakur. .......the chapter of Govardhana hill will describe the nectar about the Radha, Balarama, and Shyama Shilas. Text 9 kvacic chila nilamani-pravinah kutrapi ta marakataika-tanah tah padmaragah sphatikac ca kaccid govardhan adrau vidhu-keli-kalpah The rocks of Govardhana Hill are all precious gems. Some are sapphires, some emeralds, some rubies or sphatika crystals. They provide the perfect backdrop for Lord Shri Krishna's pastimes. Text 10 jambunada-grava-varan niriksya krsnagrajo 'ram vrsabhanuja dhih duram prayati sphatikoccayantat krsnagrajo 'trety api sapi yatra If, while walking on Govardhana Hill, Krishna's elder brother Balarama sees a series of golden stones, He thinks: "....the daughter of King Vrsabhanu must have just now walked before Me," and He changes course to avoid an awkward situation. In the same way, if She sees a series of crystal stones, She thinks: "...Balarama must have just now walked before Me," and She changes Her course. Text 11 krsnas tu jambunada-madhyam eti muhuh sva-kanta-dyuti-viddha-buddhih kantapi tasyendramani-cilantam kanta-bhramac chri-hari-dasa-varye If, on Govardhana Hill, which is the best of Lord Hari's servants, Sri Krishna sees a golden stone, He takes it to be His beloved. In the same way, His beloved sees a sapphire (or a blackish blue stone), She assumes it is Her lover. Text 12 yasyagga-cobha na vilobhayanti kam va nikuYjesu daricu drstah krsnasya kanta-nivahasya hara- dibhih padalaktaka-carvitadyaih The gopis' necklaces, ornaments, red foot cosmetic, betelnuts, and other paraphernalia gaze on the beauty of Govardhana Hill's groves and caves. Who would not become enchanted by the beauty of Govardhana Hill? You may find more nectar on my Sri Shalagram Tirtha Pradarshini page www.salagram.net/index.html Trusting this finds you well. I beg to remain, yours in the humble service of the Lord and His devotees. Shri KrishnArpanamAstu ys, JTCd ************************************************************ * * Purohit JAya Tirtha ChAran dAsan * * jtcd (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz * jtcd.purohit (AT) priest (DOT) com * jtcd.purohit (AT) zfree (DOT) co.nz * * Phone: +64 7 549 1807 (Plus 11:30 Hrs GMT.) ************************************************************ *http://www.hknet.org.nz/index.htm *http://welcome.to/hknetworks *http://www.salagram.net/index.html *http://turn.to/Vegetarianism ************************************************************ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2002 Report Share Posted January 10, 2002 On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Jaya Tirtha Charan (das) JPS wrote: > >Is it proper to worship two Govardhana silas as Sri Sri Radha Krsna (I mean > >one as Radharani and the other one as Krsna)? > >ys Maha Muni das > In answer to your question; according to Srila Vishvanath Chakravarti > Thakur it is acceptable and permissable, as some different coloured > shila-stones on Govardhan hill represent different aspects of Krishna, > His energies and pastimes. With respect, I didn't see any such permission in the quotes provided below. It might also be a good idea to look into any pre-existing vidhis on this before making such an interpretation, especially since the compounds of texts 10-11 indicate what Krsna and His nitya-siddha associates (all of whom are Deities we worship) "mistakenly think," rather than what the rest of us should *do.* Moreover, these statements frankly seem much more like poetic figures than any kind of injunction for sadhakas like us. So does any such vidhi actually exist, or does anyone know if Srila Prabhupada or any other acaryas have spoken about it? If not, the danger of concocting something unauthorized along these lines (and thus inaugurating a bogus ISKCON precedent) seems at least as important as worrying about Vishnu vis-a-vis Krsna. I'm sorry if I'm being overly critical here. MDd > excerpt from Shri Vriti Chintamani by Shrila Vishvanatha Chakravarti Thakur. > ......the chapter of Govardhana hill will describe the nectar about the > Radha, Balarama, and Shyama Shilas. > Text 9 > kvacic chila nilamani-pravinah > kutrapi ta marakataika-tanah > tah padmaragah sphatikac ca kaccid > govardhan adrau vidhu-keli-kalpah > The rocks of Govardhana Hill are all precious gems. Some are > sapphires, some emeralds, some rubies or sphatika crystals. They provide > the perfect backdrop for Lord Shri Krishna's pastimes. > > Text 10 > jambunada-grava-varan niriksya > krsnagrajo 'ram vrsabhanuja dhih > duram prayati sphatikoccayantat > krsnagrajo 'trety api sapi yatra > If, while walking on Govardhana Hill, Krishna's elder brother > Balarama sees a series of golden stones, He thinks: "....the daughter of > King Vrsabhanu must have just now walked before Me," and He changes course > to avoid an awkward situation. > In the same way, if She sees a series of crystal stones, She thinks: > "...Balarama must have just now walked before Me," and She changes Her course. > > Text 11 > krsnas tu jambunada-madhyam eti > muhuh sva-kanta-dyuti-viddha-buddhih > kantapi tasyendramani-cilantam > kanta-bhramac chri-hari-dasa-varye > If, on Govardhana Hill, which is the best of Lord Hari's servants, > Sri Krishna sees a golden stone, He takes it to be His beloved. In the same > way, His beloved sees a sapphire (or a blackish blue stone), She assumes it > is Her lover. > > Text 12 > yasyagga-cobha na vilobhayanti > kam va nikuYjesu daricu drstah > krsnasya kanta-nivahasya hara- > dibhih padalaktaka-carvitadyaih > The gopis' necklaces, ornaments, red foot cosmetic, betelnuts, and > other paraphernalia gaze on the beauty of Govardhana Hill's groves and > caves. Who would not become enchanted by the beauty of Govardhana Hill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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