Pandava Vijaya's moral high horse

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***Madhusudani Radha Devi Dasi***

 

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***Madhusudani Radha Devi Dasi***

 

 

Too bad Jesse wasn't a GBC. Then he would have been fair game. If you need a

step ladder to get down from your stirrups, maybe Pandava Prabhu will let your

borrow his.

 

 

On 24 Jan 2001, Madhusudani Radha wrote:

 

> Reading the text from Pandava Vijaya (below) was the low of my week so

> far. This is exactly what we don't need: more "holier-than-thou" devotees,

> gloating over the imperfections of non-devotees - especially in light of

> ISKCON's own *enormous* failures to provide examples of moral leadership.

>

> An alternative interpretation would have been that it was a *good* thing

> that Jackson took financial responsibility for his child. This is more than

> a great many devotee men have done, instead preferring to simply split, or

> to take sannyasa.

>

> And as far as the woman's motivation for this pregnancy goes; you'd better

> have some proof that she got pregnant to avoid having to "make a living" as

> you said, or you could be sued for slander.

>

> Very disappointed ex-viewer,

> Madhusudani dasi

>

> At 08:21 PM 1/22/01 -0500, WWW: Pandava Vijaya (Dasa) TKG (Houston TX -

> USA) wrote:

> >Jessie Jackson is another sign the Kali yuga is progressing.

> >He is a minister that disregards the sanctity of marriage and does not

follow

> >it.

> >He disregards the life of his newborn child that will not have a father.

> >He will pay her $3000 a month for having his child which is the reason she

had

> >the child anyway(a means of making a living & not taking birth control)

> >At least Bill Clinton did not father a child with Monica..

> >The money is received from donations to his Rainbow Coalition & he does not

> >have a job or ever has.

> >

> >This is the way of Kaliyuga when leaders steal money and have illicit sex

> >

> >

> >some mundane thoughts about this guy,

> >your servant bringing the Sampradaya to TV,

> >Pandava vijaya dasa

[Guest guest]

Dear viewer,

someone from the yoga center told me...

At the Nama San Kirtan yoga center... a few new people said they came from

seeing the yoga on TV- on Dangerous TV. They also saw vegetarian cooking.

someone is watching and learning yoga, meditation and vegetararianism.

your servant behind the Tv,

Pandava vijaya dasa

"Dangerous TV/Hare Krishna Tv is the Greatest show on Earth"

Hridayananda das Goswami

every Friday 7:30pm-on tv or

catch it on video...

http://www.iskcon.net/hktv

At 04:55 PM 01/23/2001 +0800, you wrote:

>> We spend our valuable time hearing and discussing Jesse Jackson's, or

>> anyone else's, failings because we have no taste for hearing and chanting

>> about Krishna's transcendental name, form, qualities and pastimes. That

>> and our penchant for offending other vaishnavas (and these two are

>> related, I believe) largely account for the sapping of ISCKON's vitality.

>>

>> Babhru das

>

>SADHU SADHU

>

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