Madhvacarya

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>Initiation from Vyasadeva is of siksa, and not diska. I don't have the name

>of his diksa guru handy.

 

New Delhi, INDIA

 

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

Jaya Tirtha Charan prabhu has been researching the history and philosophy of

the Madhva line quite deeply, and I am humbly requesting him to elucidate

more on this subject.

 

In the meanwhile, although it is true that Acyutapreksa Tirtha was

Madhvacarya's diksa-guru, there is a sastric reference for his receiving

diksa, and not just siksa, from Srila Vyasadeva as well. I do not presently

have the book at hand, but I remember that it is stated so in Sri Gaura

Gannodesa Dipika by Kavi Karnapura. Could some kind Vaisnava look it up in

the book?

 

The reason for this "reinitiation" might well be that the diksa relations of

Madhvacarya with Acyutapreksa Tirtha were somewhat formal, much alike Lord

Caitanya's with his own sannyasa-guru Kesava Bharati.

 

As some biographers point out, Acyutapreksa Titrha was externally a

proponent of advaitavada. He then became enlightened in proper siddhanta by

his 8-year-old student Vasudeva (future Madhva), who pointed out 32 mistakes

in his explanation of the 1st sloka of a book called Istasiddhi. At 12 years

of age he took sannyas from Acyutapreksa and became Anandatirtha and the

next acarya of the Math of his diksa guru.

 

This being a fact, no wonder that Madhvacarya could then take both diksa and

siksa from Srila Vyasadeva.

 

Begging to remain

 

your servant

Madana-mohana das

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At 22:11 20/10/01 +0630, you wrote:

> >Initiation from Vyasadeva is of siksa, and not diska. I don't have the name

> >of his diksa guru handy.

>

>New Delhi, INDIA

>

>Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

>

>Jaya Tirtha Charan prabhu has been researching the history and philosophy of

>the Madhva line quite deeply, and I am humbly requesting him to elucidate

>more on this subject.

 

haribol

 

pamro., agtsp.,

 

>In the meanwhile, although it is true that Acyutapreksa Tirtha was

>Madhvacarya's diksa-guru, there is a sastric reference for his receiving

>diksa, and not just siksa, from Srila Vyasadeva as well. I do not presently

>have the book at hand, but I remember that it is stated so in Sri Gaura

>Gannodesa Dipika by Kavi Karnapura. Could some kind Vaisnava look it up in

>the book?

 

His father gave him the name Vasudev

 

Vasudev took diksha from APT and given name Purna Prajna.

 

Purna Prajna took sannyas from APT and was given name Ananda Tirtha

 

BUT APT knew that Madhwa was the disciple of Vyas from day one, right from

the day when he appeared to fulfill the question of APT just after his guru

passed on and told him to find and teach about Parambrahman.

 

>The reason for this "reinitiation" might well be that the diksa relations of

>Madhvacarya with Acyutapreksa Tirtha were somewhat formal, much alike Lord

>Caitanya's with his own sannyasa-guru Kesava Bharati.

 

no question of reinitiation that didn't happen.

 

proof of that is when Madhwa compiled his Bhagavad Gita tatparyanirnaya and

wanted to present it to Vyas he approached APT for permission to go to

Uttarabhadri and the request was declined. So then the Ganga came to Madhwa

sarova in the temple tank after which APT gave his blessings for Madhwa to go.

 

At Bhadri Vyas appeared to Madhwa in the form of sound and told him to come

to Uttarabhadri ashram where the two met surrounded by thousands of tilaks

(devotees from all the Vaishnava sampradayas who sat around Vyas)

 

>As some biographers point out, Acyutapreksa Titrha was externally a

>proponent of advaitavada.

 

it is not true, the Bandakari mutt was one of the mutts coming down

incognito so as not to be destroyed by the demonlike followers of Buddha

and Sankara who killed so many devotees, cut tongues out, burned ashrams

etc, as they did to Prajna Tirtha.

 

>He then became enlightened in proper siddhanta by

>his 8-year-old student Vasudeva (future Madhva), who pointed out 32 mistakes

>in his explanation of the 1st sloka of a book called Istasiddhi.

 

there's a nice lila that is surrounding that

 

> At 12 years

>of age he took sannyas from Acyutapreksa and became Anandatirtha and the

>next acarya of the Math of his diksa guru.

 

again this is not true.

 

Madhwa was the acharya he didn't become the Pithadipatya of that mutt

 

>This being a fact, no wonder that Madhvacarya could then take both diksa and

>siksa from Srila Vyasadeva.

 

As ours is a siksha line he took siksha from Vyas, there's no mention of

diksha anywhere. His diksha was from Acyuta Prajna Tirtha (Acyuta Preksha

Tirtha), so he did take diksha from a living guru.

 

>Begging to remain

>

>your servant

>Madana-mohana das

 

Trusting this finds you well

 

ys, JTCd