Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Dear Nikhilananda Prabhu, Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada! I am greatly disheartened by your reply to my message so much so that I do not feel like even replying to your messages which carry a insinuating tone on my intentions which you have assumed to know fully on the basis of your pre-destined conceptions. You have clearly accused me of being a ungrateful, shameless offender to Srila Prabhupada and trying to undermine Srila Prabhupada's instructions and books without any direct proof that this was intention. You may not know that for the past ten years of my Krsna consciousness I have fully dedicated to printing (in millions in BBT Mumbai), distributing & reading the books of Srila Prabhupada. Anyway it is true I am a constant offender at the lotus feet of the Vaisnavas. But for the last time, I will try to defend my intentions in writing the original message and the actual thinking behind it. Please forgive that I will try to challenge your words even though you are very very senior to me both spiritually and by age & generation. > Message by Nikhilananda Dasa (ACBSP ): > > 1. I doubt that many people would be interested in or even be able to > understand the Caitanya caritamrta, without the purports of Srila > Prabhupada. These books have to be received through the via media of pure > devotees. Your suggestion to print and distribute the CC -without- the > purport of Srila Prabhupada seems to be -not- a good one. You are wrong on that one. The recent book Cc Summary by Purnaprajna Prabhu has tremendously kindled interest in Cc among the people. He is receiving many many letters about where they can buy Prabhupada's 9-vol set. All of them develop faith in Lord Caitanya's pastimes and speak wonderfully about the book and Lord Caitanya. When big companies have software products which are costly, they bring out a free downloadable version or a very cheap one with some less features. When people start using it and feel indispensible without it, they can very easily decide to buy the full software. Please remember that if the demo version was not availaible to the people, the sales of the full software would be greatly reduced. Prabhupada says that my followers should tax their brains to increase the sales of my books. So I have suggested this method to increase the sales of the Cc set (which I have read 3 times for your info). SP & SBSST said that the whole world will read Cc one day. For the whole world to buy a nine-vol set immediately is to expect a miracle. So to kindle interest for SP's Cc set, a demo version with a beautiful ad of Prabhupada Cc set in the back cover and references throughout the book, surely will tremendously increase the sales of SP's Cc set. I have a feeling that Prabhupada will surely like this idea because it is to increase the sales of his own Cc set. If it is properly executed then we may end up distributing millions of Cc sets yearly. Especially in India no one has the capacity to buy the Cc set unless they have been thoroughly convinced about it because it costs the same as the average monthly salary. > Your implication that Iskcon´s main objective in book publication is to > make money has been one of the accusations of the ex gaudiya math splinter > groups who are envious of Srila Prabhupada and who have tried to disturb > his mission until today. Anyone can talk and dream. Having > translated and sold Srila Prabhupada´s books in many countries of the > world I can assure you that the focus was not in the money but in the > preaching, often we hardly recovered the manufacturing costs. Prabhupada's plan for the BBT markup was the greatest genius mastermined plan to actually spread KC. I never doubted that. Nor I am saying that there is anything wrong in the distribution of Prabhupada's books while making profit on it. Infact Prabhupada was proud that the society is being maintained by selling his books. What I am saying is that, just like a company gives out some of it's products at cost or discount prices to create interest in it's other important products, we can translate and publish Caitanya-bhagavata (as per Prabhupada's instructions discused below) without any intention of making a lot of money on it because Caitanya-bhagavata is an audarya book. Only for this product. The regular markup policy will be followed for all other books. Sometime SP did instruct to sell some books cheaply to create interest for our other books. Without trying to understand my intentions behind the points I made in my original message, you have simply interpreted it as per your mental opinions and thus come to the wrong conclusions. > Your > enthusiastic request that we will only be able to spread KC world wide if > we immediately translate so many other works by the six goswamis etc and > distribute them sounds nice but is not realistic. I never said all or any of the books of the six Goswamis. Please don't extrapolate and put words in my mouth just to prove your points. > Nor does it correspond to the priorities and instructions left by Srila > Prabhupada. You are totally wrong again. You are talking so much about Bhagavatam but seem to have forgotten Prabhupada's wonderful words in the intro of the First Canto: "Many devotees of Lord Caitanya like Srila Vrndavana dasa Thakura, Sri Locana dasa Thakura, Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami, Sri Kavikarnapura, Sri Prabodhananda Sarasvati, Sri Rupa Gosvami, Sri Sanatana Gosvami, Sri Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami, Sri Jiva Gosvami, Sri Gopala Bhatta Gosvami, Sri Raghunatha dasa Gosvami and in this latter age within two hundred years, Sri Visvanatha Cakravarti, Sri Baladeva Vidyabhusana, Sri Syamananda Gosvami, Sri Narottama dasa Thakura, Sri Bhaktivinoda Thakura and at last Sri Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura (our spiritual master) and many other great and renowned scholars and devotees of the Lord have prepared voluminous books and literatures on the life and precepts of the Lord. Such literatures are all based on the sastras like the Vedas, Puranas, Upanisads, Ramayana, Mahabharata and other histories and authentic literatures approved by the recognized acaryas. They are unique in composition and unrivaled in presentation, and they are full of transcendental knowledge. Unfortunately the people of the world are still ignorant of them, but when these literatures, which are mostly in Sanskrit and Bengali, come to light the world and when they are presented before thinking people, then India's glory and the message of love will overflood this morbid world, which is vainly searching after peace and prosperity by various illusory methods not approved by the acaryas in the chain of disciplic succession." Prabhupada is saying that when this books come to light, India's glory and the message of love will overflood this morbid world. Why you are denying that it his instructions? Furthur Prabhupada says in Cc Adi 7.164 purp: "Now that the International Society for Krishna Consciousness has taken up this task of preaching the cult of Lord Caitanya, its members should not only construct temples in every town and village of the globe but also distribute the books that have already been written and further increase the number of books." He clearly says that one should increase the number of books. Ofcourse someone may take out a meaning that it means only to translate his books furthur but it surely does mean also to publish new Krsna conscious books because he said that the first duty of a sannyasi is to write books. They are also many other such similar statements by Prabhupada but I don't want to get into them because I am feeling a lot of pain while writing this message and thus I don't want to make it big. Also while blasting out at me, you seem to have completely and deliberately neglected Prabhupada's expilicit observations in Cc Adi 8.36 purp, which were mentioned in my original message: "UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES [Note: difficulty in understanding Bhagavatam], IT IS A GREAT AID FOR THE COMMON MAN TO READ SRILA VRNDAVANA DASA THAKURA'S CAITANYA-BHAGAVATA, FOR THUS HE CAN ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND DEVOTIONAL SERVICE, KRSNA, LORD CAITANYA AND NITYANANDA.[...] DUE TO MISUNDERSTANDING SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM, PEOPLE ARE MISLED REGARDING THE SCIENCE OF KRSNA. HOWEVER, BY READING SRILA VRNDAVANA DASA THAKURA'S BOOK ONE CAN VERY EASILY UNDERSTAND THIS SCIENCE." So how will the Caitanya-bhagavata be available to the common man unless it is translated into all the languages of the world in the form of an affordable edition? Since every word of the pure-devotee is transcendental, some follower of Prabhupada may want to make the above instructions of Prabhupada his life and soul so how can you say that he is a misled deviant, offender, pretender, shameless, ungrateful etc. You may be yourself commiting the hati-mata offense of judging and blaspheming Vaisnavas, the very thing that you are accusing them of doing. I never had any intention to suggest that this service should replace the topmost service of translating, publishing and distributing Prabhupada's books in as many languages as possible (which I myself have done for many years). But you take it for granted that I had evil motives to minimize Prabhupada's books and thus repeatedly replied me to very harshly in a public forum. Anyway I accept it as your mercy on me due to the seniority of your position. > Some of these > books were published by scholars and Gaudiya missions before and they had > hardly any impact on people anywhere in the West. Maybe only one or two books and that also in English language only. But they were never made available to people on a mass-scale (only in their small maths or libraries) because they could'nt do what Prabhupada could do i.e. a vast book-distribution network of his dedicated followers. So how can say there was no impact when they were never actually distributed? > On the other hand, by > the large scale distribution of the SB and the CC -with- purports of Srila > Prabhupada, lakhs of people are becoming devotees. Mass-scale distribution of the full-sets is not possible. But each volume of Prabhupada is completely transcendental that it instantly changes the life of whoever read it. I never said that Prabhupada's books are not effective or less effctive. I just pointed out that side by side some devotees may like to work on the instructions of Srila Prabhupada (some of them given above) & the previous acharyas about translating & publishing Gaura-lila especially Caitanya-bhagavata in a very accessible way. And that is also important. By criticizing me, you seem to loudly proclaiming that there is a difference between Prabhupada's books and Prabhupada's instructions regarding Caitanya-bhagavata. > So the request by Srila > Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati M. and Thakur Bhaktivinode to spread the > pastimes of Lord Caitanya are being fulfilled by Srila Prabhupada. Did I ever doubt or challenge it? Ofcourse you may say that I did. But I say that I never even had the slightest intention of doing that. You also cannot prove it directly. You are free to believe what you think but please don't make a campaign against me especially because I am also quoting Prabhupada's instructions and am also an aspiring follower of Prabhupada. > Many beginning devotees nowadays jump prematurely into all > these different pastimes which are published without purports and before > having sufficiently studied Srila Prabhupada´s purports. Needless to > mention that such lack of understanding is bound to produce confusion. No one will ever confused of reading Lord Caitanya's lila given is this most authentic books like Caitanya-bhagavata (translated by authentic devotees) and Caitanya-caritamrta but will surely come up to the level of seriously taking up the scutinizing study of Srila Prabhupada's purports. Anyone who has read this books closely can understand this statement. My personal life is living experience of this fact. > Undoubtedly > Srila Prabhupada knows better than us what is the best way to please our > previous acaryas. By jumping over Srila Prabhupada we will not achieve > anything. Please study Prabhupada's instructions properly before accusing anyone of jumping over Prabhupada's instructions. Then there is also the book "Teachings of Lord > Caitanya" which for example in Germany was published before even the > Bhagavad gita. What more do we want ? TLC is highly philosophical and contains all the teachings of LC from the Cc. So it is a very important book and should be distributed widely. But even in Mahabharata Vyasadeva put the deep philosophy of Bhagavad-gita with many stories so that the dull-minded people don't feel the burden or lack of interest in just reading the philosophy. Similarly the books of Lord Caitanya's lila (stories) are also required (even if not as imp as TLC) because by reading people them people will study the teachings of LC (TLC) with more interest. > Worse, in the last two years many even have even > tried to spread the theory that these purports are not so attractive or > even defective The purports are the personal ecstacies of the the senapati-bhakta of Lord Caitanya and are the deliverer of everyone who reads them. This is an undisputed fact and nobody should ever dare to minimize them. > Your suggestion that it is only with the cooperation of these > people of various ex gaudiya missions that we can publish books and be > successful in our preaching is hard to follow, at least for me. Nor are > your appeals for neutrality applicable in this case. I never directly implied gaudiya missions. That's again your interpretation. On the contrary, you cannot also claim that all of Prabhupada's followers who have faith in publishing and distributing his books or Caitanya-bhagavata have to be restricted to those within the ISKCON society. > This book (Caitanya-bhagavata) is already being translated and published > by Prabhupada disciples in the English language. But is very costly atleast as per Indian standards. Rs.400 per volume (totally 6 volumes). At this rate it will never be accessible to the common man as Srila Prabhupada wanted. Again because it is not yet been released in any of the regional languages how will it be accessible to the common man? Also Kusakratha Prabhu one-volume book is very costly and not available outside the US and even in US with great difficulty. > > (4) Sri Caitanya-mangala by Srila Locana Das Thakura to give people a > > small but complete and nectarean glimpse into Lord Gaura's pastimes. > > This book has been available in the English language in most Iskcon temple > book shops, for the last five years. Again it is Rs.300 and only in English. Whereas a similar size Prabhupada book in India costs Rs.50. So hardly anybody purchases it. Maybe 2000 to 3000 copies have been sold all over the world since the fast five years or more. So I hope you will see my point and kindly engage in furthur correspondence regarding this issue privately rather than in a public forum especially with insinuating tones and also since I have clarified myself now. I may have tried to defend myself and you may reject it but ultimately Srila Prabhupada and Sri Sri Gaura Nitai know what are my intentions in trying to work for translation and mass distribution of Caitanya-bhagavata. Thus I am not at all interested in discussing this issue furthur, also because I am shocked at the way you have presented your points. You could have done it in a more palatable manner. Last but not the least, I require your mercy to be able to try to fulfill Prabhupada's, acaryas' and Gaura Nitai's desires for making Caitanya-bhagavata available to the common man in as many languages of the world as possible. guru-mukha padma vakya cittete koriya eka. One can get unlimited inspiration from any one statement of the pure devotee and make it his life and soul. Your aspiring servant, Nayana-ranjana Das Brahmacari. P.S. Just one feedback I got on my original message: BY READING your message,my heart stared melting i dont know why, just think if this books come & people read it then there will be ocean of tears love of guarakripa flowing. If there is any service to me then please let me know, i know you can do it all alone but please don't be so selfish please engage me in this higest transcandental service. [if the message about distributing Caitanya-bhagavata can melt people' hearts, how much the book will?] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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