Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 > "why subhadra has no arms like Jagganatha and Baladeva?" > > any answers from the Lovers of Jaggannatha? Hare Krsna. Pranams. I asked this question to the sincere Jagannath fanatic, bhakta charles of Vrindavan (aka bhakta das). He has spent a lot of time and energy researching all aspects of Lord Jagannath and his worship, particularly in the libraries of Puri. I will repeat what I heard from him. He told me that in Bhubaneshwar, Madhavananda prabhu (GGS) once showed him a book which described the original forms of the deities that Indradyumna Maharaja saw. All three dieties where sitting in yoga posture and all had four arms. The book also described the four items that Subhadra was holding. So one answer to the question "Why doesn't Subhadra have any arms?" is 'She does have arms.' As far as the forms we see today, we have to consider that the original Jagannath deities were probably established in the Treta-yuga of this Catur-yuga. Since that time the Jagannath temple has been repeatedly destroyed, invaded, (and probably moved )and closed many times, even for hundreds of years at a time. So there were instances when Jagannath deities would have to be recarved from memory after long intervals. This may explain the variation in form we now see. There is a practical consideration for Subhadra not having any arms at the moment. The Jagannath and Baladev deities are very heavy and the pandas actually need to use Their arms for leverage to move them around. You can see this at the Ratha-yatra festival in Puri. It is described that during Ratha-yatra at the time of Mahaprabhu, the pandas would lift Jagannath from pillow to pillow and because He was so heavy, the pillows would burst. Nowdays, perhaps because the pandas are not so strong anymore, they simply drag Jagannath along the concrete ground, using His arms to rock Him backwards and forwards for momentum. You can pick up pieces of Jagannath by walking behind Him. But Subhadra is much smaller and lighter. Her arms are not required and she is carried simply by laying down. This may be a consideration for Subhadra eventually receiving no arms, or it may not. There is another story that Subhadra has two arms, but they are folded in front of her, covered with cloth. Your servant, Deenanath dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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