Srila Prabhupada's words on WAR.

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Here are Srila Prabhupada's words on WAR.

 

Asked to speak at the University of Nairobi in September 1972, Srila

Prabhupada addressed an overflow crowd of students and government officials

at the campus’s Taifla (Independence) Hall. In his lecture he advised

citizens of the developing nation of Kenya, “... please develop spiritually,

for spiritual development is sound development. Don’t imitate the Americans

and Europeans, who are living like cats and dogs. The atomic bomb is already

there, and as soon as the next war breaks out, all their skyscrapers and

everything else will be finished....”

SSR

 

You are killing innocent cows and other animals—nature will take revenge.

Just wait. As soon as the time is right, nature will gather all these

rascals and slaughter them. Finished. They’ll fight amongst

themselves—Protestants and Catholics, Russia and America, this one and that

one. It is going on. Why? That is nature’s law. Tit for tat. “You have

killed. Now you kill yourselves.”

They are sending animals to the slaughterhouse, and now they’ll create their

own slaughterhouse. [imitating gunfire:] Tung! Tung! Kill! Kill! You see?

Just take Belfast, for example. The Roman Catholics are killing the

Protestants, and the Protestants are killing the Catholics. This is nature’s

law. It’s not necessary that you be sent to the ordinary slaughterhouse.

You’ll make a slaughterhouse at home. You’ll kill your own child—abortion.

This is nature’s law. Who are these children being killed? They are these

meat-eaters. They enjoyed themselves when so many animals were killed, and

now they’re being killed by their mothers. People do not know how nature is

working. If you kill, you must be killed. If you kill the cow, who is your

mother, then in some future lifetime your mother will kill you. Yes. The

mother becomes the child, and the child becomes the mother.

Maam sa khaadatiti maamsah. The Sanskrit word is maamsa. Maam means “me,”

and sa means “he.” I am killing this animal; I am eating him. And in my next

lifetime he’ll kill me and eat me. When the animal is sacrificed, this

mantra is recited into the ear of the animal—“You are giving your life, so

in your next life you will get the opportunity of becoming a human being.

And I who am now killing you will become an animal, and you will kill me.”

So after understanding this mantra, who will be ready to kill an animal?

The journey of self discovery

 

 

etam drstim avastabhya

nastaatmaano ’lpa-buddhayah

prabhavanty ugra-karmaanah

ksayaaya jagato ’hitaah

 

“the demoniac, who are lost to themselves and who have no intelligence,

engage in unbeneficial, horrible works meant to destroy the world.” BG 16.9

Purport: Animal killing is very prominent amongst demoniac people. Such

people are considered the enemies of the world because ultimately they will

invent or create something which will bring destruction to all. Indirectly,

this verse anticipates the invention of nuclear weapons, of which the whole

world is today very proud. At any moment war may take place, and these

atomic weapons may create havoc. Such things are created solely for the

destruction of the world, and this is indicated here. Due to godlessness,

such weapons are invented in human society; they are not meant for the peace

and prosperity of the world.

 

Formerly war was never declared by the whims of selfish political leaders;

it was carried out on religious principles free from all vices. SB 1.7.36

 

This sometimes happens in present days also—for one man’s fault a whole

state is sometimes attacked. This kind of wholesale attack is not approved

by Manu, the father and lawgiver of the human race. 4.11.6

 

In this age of Kali the propensity for mercy is almost nil. Consequently

there is always fighting and wars between men and nations. Men do not

understand that because they unrestrictedly kill so many animals, they also

must be slaughtered like animals in big wars. This is very much evident in

the Western countries. In the West, slaughterhouses are maintained without

restriction, and therefore every fifth or tenth year there is a big war in

which countless people are slaughtered even more cruelly than the animals.

Sb 4.26.5

 

Sometimes the members of the Krsna Consciousness Society are afraid of the

impending danger of world war and ask what would happen to them if a war

should occur. In all kinds of danger, they should be confident of their

protection by the Visnudutas or the Supreme Personality of Godhead, as

confirmed in Bhagavad-gita (kaunteya pratijaanihi na me bhaktah pranasyati).

Material danger is not meant for devotees. This is also confirmed in

Srimad-Bhagavatam. Padam padam yad vipadaam na tesaam: in this material

world there are dangers at every step, but they are not meant for devotees

who have fully surrendered unto the lotus feet of the Lord. The pure

devotees of Lord Visnu may rest assured of the Lord’s protection, and as

long as they are in this material world they should fully engage in

devotional service by preaching the cult of Sri Caitanya Mahaaprabhu and

Lord Krsna, namely the Hare Krsna movement of Krsna consciousness.

SB 6.3.18

 

The German people declared war against the English to ruin them, but the

result was that both parties were ruined. Although the Allies were

apparently victorious, at least on paper, actually neither of them were

victorious. Therefore it should be concluded that the Supreme Personality of

Godhead is not partial to anyone. Everyone works under the influence of

various modes of material nature, and when the various modes are prominent,

the demigods or demons appear victorious under the influence of these modes.

SB 7.1.8

 

Nowadays, therefore, it appears that every state is busy manufacturing

atomic weapons to prepare for a third world war. Such preparations are

certainly unnecessary; they reflect the false pride of the heads of state.

The real business of a chief executive is to see to the happiness of the

mass of people by training them in Krsna consciousness in different

divisions of life. SB 10.1.17

 

When one nation declares war upon another, there is no question of pleasing

Krsna or serving Krsna. They're pleasing their own senses, serving their own

whims. When the First and Second World Wars began, it was not for pleasing

Krsna. The Germans wanted that their sense gratification not be hampered by

the Britishers. That means it was a war of sense gratification. "The

Britishers are achieving their sense gratification; we cannot. All right,

fight." So there was no question of pleasing Krsna.

Civilaztion and transcendence

 

BTG: Has God also devised the most perfect government?

Srila Prabhupaada: Oh, yes. The ksatriyas ruled the government in Vedic

times. When there was a war, the king was the first to fight. Just like your

George Washington: he fought when there was a war. But what kind of

president is ruling now? When there is a war, he sits very securely and

telephones orders. He’s not fit to be president. When there is war, the

president should be the first to come forward and lead the battle.

SSR – finding spiritual solutions to material problems

 

 

“…during World War II it was reported that many wives of the German soldiers

went to church to pray for their husbands’ safe return, but when they found

they had been killed in battle, they became atheistic. Thus we want God to

become our order-supplier, and when He does not supply our order, we say

that there is no God. That is the effect of praying for material things - On

the way to Krsna

 

The world is so conceived that even if we make a very good arrangement, it

will gradually deteriorate. After World War I an armistice was signed, and

there was a short period of peace, but World War II soon came, and now that

that is over they are making preparations for World War III. - Raja Vidya

 

Sukadeva Gosvaami said that one kind of war causes a disturbance, and

another kind of war stops it for some time, but that is not the ultimate

solution to the problem. Sukadeva states that these troubles happen due to

ignorance: avidvad-adhikaaritvaat. Avidvat means “lack of knowledge.”

Avidvat-adhikaaritvaat praayascittam vimarsanam. Real atonement is performed

in knowledge. Why is there fighting and why are there miseries? Unless these

“why” questions, which in the Vedas are called Kena Upanisad, arise in one’s

mind, one is not fulfilling the proper function of his human life. These

questions must arise: “Why am I suffering? Wherefrom have I come? What is my

constitutional position? Where shall I go after death? Why am I put into a

miserable form of life? Why are there birth, death, old age and disease?”

- Matchless Gifts

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> Srila Prabhupada's words on WAR.

>

>

> Here are Srila Prabhupada's words on WAR.

>

> Asked to speak at the University of Nairobi in September 1972, Srila

> Prabhupada addressed an overflow crowd of students and government

> officials

> at the campus's Taifla (Independence) Hall. In his lecture he advised

> citizens of the developing nation of Kenya, "... please develop

> spiritually,

> for spiritual development is sound development. Don't imitate the

> Americans

> and Europeans, who are living like cats and dogs. The atomic bomb

> is already

> there, and as soon as the next war breaks out, all their skyscrapers and

> everything else will be finished...."

> SSR

>

> You are killing innocent cows and other animals-nature will take revenge.

> Just wait. As soon as the time is right, nature will gather all these

> rascals and slaughter them. Finished. They'll fight amongst

> themselves-Protestants and Catholics, Russia and America, this

> one and that

> one. It is going on. Why? That is nature's law. Tit for tat. "You have

> killed. Now you kill yourselves."

> They are sending animals to the slaughterhouse, and now they'll

> create their

> own slaughterhouse. [imitating gunfire:] Tung! Tung! Kill! Kill! You see?

> Just take Belfast, for example. The Roman Catholics are killing the

> Protestants, and the Protestants are killing the Catholics. This

> is nature's

> law. It's not necessary that you be sent to the ordinary slaughterhouse.

> You'll make a slaughterhouse at home. You'll kill your own child-abortion.

> This is nature's law. Who are these children being killed? They are these

> meat-eaters. They enjoyed themselves when so many animals were killed, and

> now they're being killed by their mothers. People do not know how

> nature is

> working. If you kill, you must be killed. If you kill the cow, who is your

> mother, then in some future lifetime your mother will kill you. Yes. The

> mother becomes the child, and the child becomes the mother.

> Maam sa khaadatiti maamsah. The Sanskrit word is maamsa. Maam means "me,"

> and sa means "he." I am killing this animal; I am eating him. And

> in my next

> lifetime he'll kill me and eat me. When the animal is sacrificed, this

> mantra is recited into the ear of the animal-"You are giving your life, so

> in your next life you will get the opportunity of becoming a human being.

> And I who am now killing you will become an animal, and you will kill me."

> So after understanding this mantra, who will be ready to kill an animal?

> The journey of self discovery

>

>

> etam drstim avastabhya

> nastaatmaano 'lpa-buddhayah

> prabhavanty ugra-karmaanah

> ksayaaya jagato 'hitaah

>

> "the demoniac, who are lost to themselves and who have no intelligence,

> engage in unbeneficial, horrible works meant to destroy the

> world." BG 16.9

> Purport: Animal killing is very prominent amongst demoniac people. Such

> people are considered the enemies of the world because ultimately

> they will

> invent or create something which will bring destruction to all.

> Indirectly,

> this verse anticipates the invention of nuclear weapons, of which

> the whole

> world is today very proud. At any moment war may take place, and these

> atomic weapons may create havoc. Such things are created solely for the

> destruction of the world, and this is indicated here. Due to godlessness,

> such weapons are invented in human society; they are not meant

> for the peace

> and prosperity of the world.

>

> Formerly war was never declared by the whims of selfish political leaders;

> it was carried out on religious principles free from all vices. SB 1.7.36

>

> This sometimes happens in present days also-for one man's fault a whole

> state is sometimes attacked. This kind of wholesale attack is not approved

> by Manu, the father and lawgiver of the human race. 4.11.6

>

> In this age of Kali the propensity for mercy is almost nil. Consequently

> there is always fighting and wars between men and nations. Men do not

> understand that because they unrestrictedly kill so many animals,

> they also

> must be slaughtered like animals in big wars. This is very much evident in

> the Western countries. In the West, slaughterhouses are maintained without

> restriction, and therefore every fifth or tenth year there is a big war in

> which countless people are slaughtered even more cruelly than the animals.

> Sb 4.26.5

>

> Sometimes the members of the Krsna Consciousness Society are afraid of the

> impending danger of world war and ask what would happen to them if a war

> should occur. In all kinds of danger, they should be confident of their

> protection by the Visnudutas or the Supreme Personality of Godhead, as

> confirmed in Bhagavad-gita (kaunteya pratijaanihi na me bhaktah

> pranasyati).

> Material danger is not meant for devotees. This is also confirmed in

> Srimad-Bhagavatam. Padam padam yad vipadaam na tesaam: in this material

> world there are dangers at every step, but they are not meant for devotees

> who have fully surrendered unto the lotus feet of the Lord. The pure

> devotees of Lord Visnu may rest assured of the Lord's protection, and as

> long as they are in this material world they should fully engage in

> devotional service by preaching the cult of Sri Caitanya Mahaaprabhu and

> Lord Krsna, namely the Hare Krsna movement of Krsna consciousness.

> SB 6.3.18

>

> The German people declared war against the English to ruin them, but the

> result was that both parties were ruined. Although the Allies were

> apparently victorious, at least on paper, actually neither of them were

> victorious. Therefore it should be concluded that the Supreme

> Personality of

> Godhead is not partial to anyone. Everyone works under the influence of

> various modes of material nature, and when the various modes are

> prominent,

> the demigods or demons appear victorious under the influence of

> these modes.

> SB 7.1.8

>

> Nowadays, therefore, it appears that every state is busy manufacturing

> atomic weapons to prepare for a third world war. Such preparations are

> certainly unnecessary; they reflect the false pride of the heads of state.

> The real business of a chief executive is to see to the happiness of the

> mass of people by training them in Krsna consciousness in different

> divisions of life. SB 10.1.17

>

> When one nation declares war upon another, there is no question

> of pleasing

> Krsna or serving Krsna. They're pleasing their own senses,

> serving their own

> whims. When the First and Second World Wars began, it was not for pleasing

> Krsna. The Germans wanted that their sense gratification not be

> hampered by

> the Britishers. That means it was a war of sense gratification. "The

> Britishers are achieving their sense gratification; we cannot. All right,

> fight." So there was no question of pleasing Krsna.

> Civilaztion and transcendence

>

> BTG: Has God also devised the most perfect government?

> Srila Prabhupaada: Oh, yes. The ksatriyas ruled the government in Vedic

> times. When there was a war, the king was the first to fight.

> Just like your

> George Washington: he fought when there was a war. But what kind of

> president is ruling now? When there is a war, he sits very securely and

> telephones orders. He's not fit to be president. When there is war, the

> president should be the first to come forward and lead the battle.

> SSR - finding spiritual solutions to material problems

>

>

> "Iduring World War II it was reported that many wives of the

> German soldiers

> went to church to pray for their husbands' safe return, but when

> they found

> they had been killed in battle, they became atheistic. Thus we want God to

> become our order-supplier, and when He does not supply our order, we say

> that there is no God. That is the effect of praying for material

> things - On

> the way to Krsna

>

> The world is so conceived that even if we make a very good arrangement, it

> will gradually deteriorate. After World War I an armistice was signed, and

> there was a short period of peace, but World War II soon came,

> and now that

> that is over they are making preparations for World War III. - Raja Vidya

>

> Sukadeva Gosvaami said that one kind of war causes a disturbance, and

> another kind of war stops it for some time, but that is not the ultimate

> solution to the problem. Sukadeva states that these troubles happen due to

> ignorance: avidvad-adhikaaritvaat. Avidvat means "lack of knowledge."

> Avidvat-adhikaaritvaat praayascittam vimarsanam. Real atonement

> is performed

> in knowledge. Why is there fighting and why are there miseries?

> Unless these

> "why" questions, which in the Vedas are called Kena Upanisad,

> arise in one's

> mind, one is not fulfilling the proper function of his human life. These

> questions must arise: "Why am I suffering? Wherefrom have I come?

> What is my

> constitutional position? Where shall I go after death? Why am I put into a

> miserable form of life? Why are there birth, death, old age and disease?"

> - Matchless Gifts

>