Guest guest Posted February 4, 1999 Report Share Posted February 4, 1999 On 03 Feb 1999, Virender Dayal wrote: > On 03 Feb 1999, Payonidhi Dasa wrote: > > .. > > The point is obviously that one has to become free completly from lust and > > other vices before attaining to raga marg.Srila Prabhupada talked about > > slinging mud into transcendence and remaining in maya while externaly > calling > > oneself a Raganuga bhakta.Where there is real Bhakti there is no lust etc. > > Good points. You can't really practice/imitate higher stages of bhakti > without going through the preliminary stages as confirmed in CC Adi 1.4.22 > Purport: > > "Those who are spontaneously devoted to the Lord and have no aims for material > gain are called attracted devotees. They are spontaneously attracted to the > service of the Lord, and they follow in the footsteps of self-realized > souls... Sometimes loving ecstasy transcends regulative principles; such > ecstasy, however, is completely on the spiritual platform and cannot be > imitated. THE REGULATIVE PRINCIPLES HELP ORDINARY DEVOTEES RISE TO THE STAGE > OF PERFECT LOVE OF GODHEAD." > > your servant, > > Virender > http://www.krishnasoft.com Dear Prabhu PAMHO AGTSP The references from CC are just to the point,I want to mention another song by Bhaktivinoda Thakura in this regard: Mundane lust vs Spiritual lust My dear mind you are so fondly attached to rolling to and fro upon the waves of lust.Abandoning your sensual mateial lust,just render service in pure spiritual lust and thus extend yourself into the realm of transcendentally uncommon pastimes. It is not possible to quench the thirst of this temporary mundane lust,for its nature is to continuosly create a disturbing situation.Although you desire the things associated with lust,still you can not always get them.And even if you do get the things you lust after you cannot keep them,for such temporary things will give up your company very soon. My dear mind,you faithfully render service to this mundane lust,but I see that it actually cannot give you anything substantial,rather it simply burns my entire body with miserabel disssatisfaction. So then just give up all your false material lust and accept the true spiritual lust by worshipping the Cupid of Vrindavana.He will shoot your spiritual body full of His flowerarrows,and therby you will become filled to the brim with eternal ecstatic love for Him.(Kalyana kalpataru) Love is transformed in the material world into lust as explained by Srila Prabhupada in the Gita 3th chapter vers 39 and this lust has to be transformed back into love for Krsna.Thus one cannot practise pure raga marg as long as one is covered by lust as explained in vers38 and 40 of the same chapter. Your servant Payonidhi das > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 1999 Report Share Posted February 5, 1999 Dear devotees, Hare Krisna. Please accept my humble obeisances, All glories to Srila Prabhupad! Thank you very much for excellent information and stories you send on this conference. Your servant bh. Muhamed-Sarajevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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