A friend in maya

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On 11 Mar 1999, Madhurya-kadambini dd wrote:

 

> Hare Krsna!

> PAMHO; AGTSP!

>

> It is great to be concerned about frends spiritual life, but

> we should not be so strict & hard. If one can be just a well wisher that

> will help.

 

Dear MAtaji,that unfortunatly sounds like a general attitude in Berkely,we can

not compromise the KC standards, otherwise it will end up like when I was a

Berkely temple and someone had illicit sex next door from me.Wellwisher means

you want people to come to the proper standard

we don't have to tell them they will go to hell.But in this case,there is

certainly reactions for his misbehavior and fall downs,I have not even gotten

heavy with him as he is a good friend,but I have told him my honest

opinion,that is also right to the point.THere is no need to accuse me for

being to heavy to him.If that was so he would not come to me with all his

problems and trust me.

 

Unfortunately your frend is not only one, there are so

> many of them some of them are senior some of them are even born in

> ISKCON, but we have to understand also that we are all diferent

> personalities and we all have deferent capacity.

 

There is still 16 rounds and 4 principles to be followed,no matter who one

is,if one can no do that, and brakes the vows,then what kind of Kali yuga

disciple is one?One may have temporarily problems,but if one starts a

"Vaisnava society for Gays" as is found in San Franscisco,we have to

use our discrimination and not accept such persons as bona fide vaisnavas.

A bonafide devotee follows 4 regs,and chants 16 rounds,anyone that has less

standard can not be accepted a proper devotee by any standard.

 

So we all will achive

> diferent levels in our own spiritual life. It's not that everione

> can become pure devotee in this life.

Why not at least come to the level of 16 rounds and 4 regs?????????

 

We have to work hard on

> our selfs and help each other. If someone is in such state of

> minde it's not so helpful to preach hard.

 

Well if a person is intelligent he will accept the preaching for his

benefit,a selfish fallen person is stubborn and will never change his mind no

matter what.I remember when I was a new bhakta and I had left the temple(the

TP was in maya) and there was only two of us.A friend told me "Vasudeva sarvam

iti" Krsna is everything,I thought about it and it helped me become determined

to go back to Godhead.

 

We can preach with

> our own example, we can simpli invite a frend for a diner(prasadam)

> that would halp. Just give a nice frendly asociation.

> If we cen purify people on the strit in BD just by seeng them day

> after day and get them buy the book we can help a friend to

> recover his purity and get back on Srila Prabhupadas road.

> If we just pray for all of our friends, for each other that

> can be so helpfull, Krsna hears our preyars.

 

My friend comes to my place once a week for prasadam,and as far as

bookdistribution is concerned my friend has taste for it,but after the "Higher

taste" he goes home to taste the lower taste of illicit sex with his wife

,that is tired of being his sextoy.

It is also no way to treat a wife to use her as a sexmaschine,and I keep

telling him that.He may become a pig if he continues this behavior and no

amount of mahaprasadam will safe him.So please pray for him.

YS

Payonidhi das

> Ys

> mkdasi