A FRIEND IN MAYA

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Dear Payonidhi Prabhu,

Please accept my most humble obeisances. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

> I really would welcome any sincere advise, I try to get him involved in

> Krsna Katha but he wants to involve me in gramya katha(for which I have

> little and no interest).How do you engage someone like that in the

> auspiscious activity of Krsna Katha?????

 

Krsna Katha is not meant for such persons.

Maya's kicks will bring him to his knees in due course of time. I have heard

of a devotee who was having illicit sex inspite of spiritual master's

warning him again & again. Ultimately he was forced to stop when he got

AIDS.

 

A person can take the horse to the water to make him drink but it is upto

the horse whether to drink the water or not. One can preach Krsna

consciousness to a person in Maya if one's faith in KC is stronger then his

faith in Maya and not vice versa.

 

>It seems

> that such association is just bad association, but "otherwise" he is

> sincere in external preaching.

 

What can he preach? Prabhupada said that one who has purity & practises

himself, he can preach. Most probably he sees preaching & KC as a temporary

way to escape & forget his material desires & sinful activities for some

time. This is called 'escapism'. His so-called preaching is like the firing

of blank bullets.

 

> My friend comes to my place once a week for prasadam,and as far as

> bookdistribution is concerned my friend has taste for it,but after the

> "Higher taste" he goes home to taste the lower taste of illicit sex with

> his wife ,that is tired of being his sextoy.

 

> It is nice he make kids chant Hare Krsna during the day, but if then he

> goes and have illicit sex at night,what good will his preaching do him???

 

This proves that he is externally making a show of chanting, preaching etc.

but deliberately & knowingly continuing with his sinful activities. Such a

person is committing the most grievious seventh offense against the Holy

Name and his association should be avoided at all costs what to speak of

preaching to him. At the present moment he is more dangerous than an

atheist. Such a person is called 'dharmadhvaji'- pretender or sahajiya -

someone who takes devotional service cheaply. Such association should be

given up as recommended by Lord Caitanya, BVT and all previous acaryas.

 

> he tells me he

> want to stay with his wife, but next moment wants to move back to the

> temple as his wife does not give in to his illicit sex desires all the

> time when he wants it.

 

He should never be allowed to stay in the temple otherwise he will effect

others with his sinning mentality.

 

> He wants to read Bhaktivikas Swamis Brahmacari book, and he hopes this

> will motivate him to stop being so lusty.

 

At present he is knowingly breaking the reg. principles of KC what to talk

of following brahmacari life. So most probably the book will be have zero or

no value. It is just sense gratification that he says he wants to read the

book. This anartha is called 'utsahamayi'. I will do that, I will do this

but one has no determination. He can never change as long as he keeps

justifying his wrong actions and dosen't accept that he is doing what he

should not do. One can only start preaching to someone who accepts his

mistake and not keep on justifying it. That is when Krsna started to preach

to Arjuna.

 

> He is initiated and his guru is in good standing,but his guru is

> aloof to help him.And I find this frustrating,very frustrating.

 

Why do you find this frustrating? Just like if the guru acts impiously

against Krsna & the Vaisnavas and is materially motivated, he can be given

up by the disciple, similarly if the disciple breaks the promises taken at

the time of the initiation, why should the guru keep on accepting the

responsibility for his sins. It is a two-way mutual contract, not just one

way. The guru promises to take us back to Godhead provided we follow his

instructions.

 

By the way you can also make friends with so many other innocent people who

are willing to listen to you and keep on praying for this friend (like you

said) who will most probably have to learn by the hard way because he is not

taking your good advice.

 

And plus you can always continue giving us the nectar of Krsna Katha as you

usually do. Please consider us also your friends.

 

Please forgive me for being straightforward.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Your servant,

Nayana-ranjana dasa