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On 24 May 1999, Payonidhi Dasa wrote:

 

> In the Veda base I found a interesting conversation october 14 th 1968 in

> Seattle.Prabhupada compares the bell from the icecream truck like maya

trying

> to capture the conditioned soul.Another intersting quote about Icecream is

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> 10.35.24 purport.

 

Thanks for the references. The ice-cream truck example is very nice but again

it is not condemning ice-cream but the idea of the conditioned souls running

out to satisfy their tongues with ice-cream. It could have been a truck

selling mangos and the same maya would be there.

 

Ice-cream in itself is not maya.

 

Sincerely,

 

Virender

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"If one offers Me with love and devotion, a leaf, a flower, fruit, or water, I

will accept it." - 9.26 Gita

 

So if the love and devotion is there, Krsna will accept it regardless of

whether the person was able to follow all the rules involved.

 

Therefore, it's recommended that people ALWAYS offer their food to Krsna even

if they can't strictly follow all the rules.

 

Sincerely,

 

Virender

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> "If one offers Me with love and devotion, a leaf, a flower, fruit, or

> water, I will accept it." - 9.26 Gita

>

> So if the love and devotion is there, Krsna will accept it regardless of

> whether the person was able to follow all the rules involved.

>

> Therefore, it's recommended that people ALWAYS offer their food to Krsna

> even if they can't strictly follow all the rules.

 

We can offer, no doubt. Whether Krsna will accept it or not, that is another

thing.

 

Speaking about love and devotion, I always though it means to offer Him what

he wants. And as far as ice-cream goes, I tend to think that it is not the

most basic food we need for sustenance (like milk) and that we have to buy

it. Why not buy milk and make it ourselves? A symptom of advancement would

be to increase our standard of devotional service, hence of the food we

offer to Krsna also. While it may be Ok for somebody who is just beggining

his KC to offer the Ice-cream he buys, I doubt it is for second initiated

devotees.

 

Any way, this is just my oppinion, no need to comment since I have firm

reasons not to change the oppinion.

 

Another thing is, I kind of sense that this discussion about the Ice-cream

is going far off. It bothers me, at least, and I could guess it bothers

other devotees also. It would be nice to stop with it.

 

ys Ard

 

Ps. I though I would post something my Guru Maharaja wrote. Please take it

simply as what an older member of our society has to say, not that I want to

convince you what you should do:

 

> We should avoid eating anything prepared by non-devotees as much as

> possible. I just listened to a lecture by Srila Prabhupada and he said

> that we do not eat all those things they are offering on the airplane, and

> that we eat Krishna prasada which we carry with us. I guess our cooks have

> to become much more expert so that the devotees loose the taste for all

> these food stuffs prepared by non-devotees. There is no need to eat white

> chocolate anyway. It's bad for your teeth and you cannot offer it to

> Krishna. Let us prepare everything ourselves and thus remain pure in our

> Consciousness. Our austerity of the tongue is to only eat Krishna prasada

> prepared by devotees. An exception might be if you have no other facility.

> In order to keep the soul and body together, you might accept an karmi

> apple or some nuts you buy from a shop. But better is to avoid and eat our

> own prepared prasada.

>

> I remember when I use to eat that stuff on sankirtana in the old days, I

> was never satisfied. It simply screwed up my stomach and I just felt that

> it wasn't proper but the tongue is very powerful. We have to become a

> little determined in this regard.

>

> Yww, Dasa A.C. Bhaktivaibhava Swami

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