Guest guest Posted June 18, 1999 Report Share Posted June 18, 1999 On 16 Jun 1999, Payonidhi Dasa wrote: > I think I have already made it clear on my position on Narayana Maharaja, > actually not only am I taking Siksa from him,but diksa as well as Harikesa > fell down,thus it is fully correct for me to do so. > I know that the Gaudia Matha has a different position on the jiva issue... I did not see you answer Vijay's two points at all except labeling him with various bad names like you have done with ISKCON, GBC, and others who disagree with you. While trying to avoid aparadha of Narayana Maharaja, did you think for a moment that there may be some devotees in ISKCON or GBC that you are offending who understand the situation better than you? We are not discussing how the jiva came about but the conclusion has to be accepted from either Srila Prabhupada or Narayana Maharaja. Since you accept that they differ, only one personality can be accepted. A servant is 100% surrendered so acceptance of one is rejection of the other. So who are you surrendering to? You think it's not important for bhakti-yoga? Bhakti-yoga means 100% surrender to your guru's instructions so where will your bhakti-yoga come from if you hallucinate that both are acceptable authorities simultaneously? The jiva issue does not change with time, place, and circumstance! > Prabhuji I have been told a ISKCON devotee picked up the documents in person > from Maharaja's matha in Mathura ,they did not get lost in the mail. Your point is useless. You can find 10 million letters from Prabhupada praising various devotees and still cannot come to a conclusion that the person is Krsna conscious today. The Krsna consciousness of a person is a dynamic state- a person may be an aspiring devotee today and a materialist tomorrow all depending on his independence. How many letters do you see in the folio of Prabhupada praising people who are no longer devotees? Your speculation that ISKCON has done harm by destroying the letters is useless. Sincerely, Virender http://www.krishnasoft.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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