Guest guest Posted July 18, 1999 Report Share Posted July 18, 1999 > Could anybody of the respected Vaisnavas give any sastric reference > supporting, clarifying or refuting the following statement: > > "Mahaprabhu established the yuga-dharma through nama-sankirtana. He did it > throught the medium of Mahavisnu, Narayana, Nrsimhadeva and other > avataras, all of whom were contained within Himself." This is very dangerous speculation which has to be refuted otherwise it undermines the the mission of our Hare Krishna movement & Srila Prabhupada. It is a very subtle argument and to counteract it one has to study the Cc Adi-lila Chapter 4 thoroughly. THE FIRST THING ONE MAY ASK WHERE IS THE SASTRIC PROOF FOR THIS STATEMENT, WORD TO WORD? In continuation of such a statement, one may come to an offensive conclusion (which someone has really come to) that Prabhupada is a servant of Mahavisnu and not Lord Caitanya because he preached nama-sankirtana & not raganuga bhakti to the general people. Prabhupada says that Lord Caitanya PERSONALLY inaugurates the Yuga Dharma. yuga-dharma pravartaimu nama-sankirtana cari bhava-bhakti diya nacamu bhuvana "I shall PERSONALLY inaugurate the religion of the age-nama-sankirtana, the congregational chanting of the holy name. I shall make the world dance in ecstasy, realizing the four mellows of loving devotional service. We simply accept Prabhupada because Prabhupada accepts Lord Caitanya literally without interpretation, as it is. Let us study the origin of this statement, then we can see where the subtle speculation has come in. This statement has been basically derived from Cc Adi-lila 4th Chapter Verses 5-17 & 36-38. I am going to list these verses because they are very important for our discussion. -- TEXT 5 caturtha slokera artha ei kaila sara prema-nama pracarite ei avatara I have given the essential meaning of the fourth verse: this incarnation [sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu] descends to propagate the chanting of the holy name and spread love of God. TEXT 6 satya ei hetu, kintu eho bahiranga ara eka hetu, suna, ache antaranga Although this is true, this is but the external reason for the Lord's incarnation. Please hear one other reason-the confidential reason-for the Lord's appearance. TEXT 7 purve yena prthivira bhara haribare krsna avatirna haila sastrete pracare The scriptures proclaim that Lord Krsna previously descended to take away the burden of the earth. TEXT 8 svayam-bhagavanera karma nahe bhara-harana sthiti-karta visnu karena jagat-palana To take away this burden, however, is not the work of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The maintainer, Lord Visnu, is the one who protects the universe. TEXT 9 kintu krsnera yei haya avatara-kala bhara-harana-kala tate ha-ila misala But the time to lift the burden of the world mixed with the time for Lord Krsna's incarnation. TEXT 10 purna bhagavan avatare yei kale ara saba avatara tante asi' mile When the complete Supreme Personality of Godhead descends, all other incarnations of the Lord meet together within Him. TEXTS 11-12 narayana, catur-vyuha, matsyady-avatara yuga-manvantaravatara, yata ache ara sabe asi' krsna-ange haya avatirna aiche avatare krsna bhagavan purna Lord Narayana, the four primary expansions [Vasudeva, Sankarsana, Pradyumna and Aniruddha], Matsya and the other lila incarnations, the yuga-avataras, the manv-antara incarnations and as many other incarnations as there are-all descend in the body of Lord Krsna. In this way the complete Supreme Godhead, Lord Krsna Himself, appears. TEXT 13 ataeva visnu takhana krsnera sarire visnu-dvare kare krsna asura-samhare At that time, therefore, Lord Visnu is present in the body of Lord Krsna, and Lord Krsna kills the demons through Him. TEXT 14 anusanga-karma ei asura-marana ye lagi' avatara, kahi se mula karana Thus the killing of the demons is but secondary work. I shall now speak of the main reason for the Lord's incarnation. TEXTS 15-16 prema-rasa-niryasa karite asvadana raga-marga bhakti loke karite pracarana rasika-sekhara krsna parama-karuna ei dui hetu haite icchara udgama The Lord's desire to appear was born from two reasons: the Lord wanted to taste the sweet essence of the mellows of love of God, and He wanted to propagate devotional service in the world on the platform of spontaneous attraction. Thus He is known as supremely jubilant and as the most merciful of all. Cc Adi TEXT 36-37 ei vancha yaiche krsna-prakatya-karana asura-samhara--anusanga prayojana ei mata caitanya-krsna purna bhagavan yuga-dharma-pravartana nahe tanra kama Just as these desires are the fundamental reason for Krsna's appearance whereas destroying the demons is only an incidental necessity, so for Sri Krsna Caitanya, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, promulgating the dharma of the age is incidental. TEXT 38 kona karane yabe haila avatare mana yuga-dharma-kala haila se kale milana When the Lord desired to appear for another reason, the time for promulgating the religion of the age also arose. TEXT 39 dui hetu avatari' lana bhakta-gana apane asvade prema-nama-sankirtana Thus with two intentions the Lord appeared with His devotees and tasted the nectar of prema with the congregational chanting of the holy name. ----------------------- Now it is clear that KKG in verse 36-37 equates the secondary activity of Krsna killing the demons with the activity of promulgating of the Yuga Dharma in the case of Lord Caitanya. And he explains in verses 10-13 that killing of the demons was done by Visnu in the body of Krsna and not by Krsna Himself. So if one tries to combine these two statements, then he comes to the conclusion that Visnu or the Narayana expansions in the body of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu promulgated the Yuga Dharma. But there is a big hitch here. KKG has compared these two to give us a clear idea of the external & internal reasons of the appearance of Lord Krsna & Lord Caitanya. But just because the external purpose (killing the demons) of the mission of Lord Krsna was performed by Visnu in the body of Krsna does not necessarily mean that the external purpose (propogation of the Yuga Dharma) of the mission of Lord Caitanya was performed by Visnu in the body of Lord Caitanya. One cannot conclude like this unless there is a clear statement in this regard about Lord Caitanya in the sastras like the statement of KKG in verse 13 about Lord Krsna. Why one cannot conclude like this? It is because of the following reason (apart from the reasons that Prabhupada said that Lord Caitanya personally preached the Yuga Dharma and that it is not clearly mentioned anywhere in the sastra): (1) KKG explains in texts 15-16 that the Lord's desire to appear was born from two reasons: the Lord wanted to taste the sweet essence of the mellows of love of God, and He wanted to propagate devotional service in the world on the platform of spontaneous attraction (raga-marga). This was His internal purpose. But how did He achieve this purpose? The answer is given in test 39 and in other parts of Cc that with two intentions the Lord appeared with His devotees and tasted the nectar of prema with the congregational chanting of the holy name. The conclusion is that the Lord fulfilled His internal purpose by nama-sankirtana which was incidentally the external purpose also. So now we can raise the following question. How could Lord Caitanya fulfil His internal purpose with the help of hari-nama sankirtana if He did not actually propagate hari-nama-sankirtana and it was done by Maha Visnu, Nrsimha etc. in the body of Lord Caitanya? THIS IS THE POINT. SO ACTUALLY LORD CAITANYA HIMSELF PROPAGATED THE HOLY NAMES AND DID NOT LEAVE IT TO MAHA VIHNU ETC. BECAUSE THROUGH THE CONGREGATIONAL CHANTING ALONE HE COULD FULFIL HIS INTERNAL PURPOSE THAT IS RAGA BHAKTI & TO UNDERSTAND & RELISH THE MOOD OF RADHARANI. This is confirmed by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu in different parts of Cc and by Bhaktivinode Thakura in Hari Naam Cintamani and one of his songs that by ofenseless chanting one automatically achieves the stage of raga marga. Srila Gaura Kishore Dasa Babaji Maharaja used to say that chanting the Holy Name alone will reveal the 11 characteristics of our spiritual form and bring us to the platform of ragabhakti or spontaneous devotion. This statement also implies that those great associates of Lord Caitanya who engaged in nama-sankirtana are not on the raga platform or not able to understand the internal purpose of Lord Caitanya. Thet are merely serving Maha Visnu, Nrsimha etc. What can be more offensive can this? If nama-sankirtana is external what are the six Goswamis, the greatest raga bhaktas engaged in it with fixed vows? Infact Rupa Goswami says that raga bhakti is not to be directly preached to the people in general. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu being very merciful to the common people gave the same realizations of raga bhakti in the congregational chanting of the Holy Names. Thus the above seems to be a subtle but highly dangerous, deviant & offensive speculation because of the dangerous conclusions which can be drawn from it. It is duty of the real Gaudiya Vaisnavas to reject & refute such statements what to talk of propogating such statements. I would like to end with a few verses: Cc Adi 3.40 kali-yuge yuga-dharma--namera pracara tathi lagi' pita-varna caitanyavatara The religious practice for the Age of Kali is to broadcast the glories of the holy name. Only for this purpose has the Lord, in a yellow color, descended as Lord Caitanya. NAAM SANKIRTAN- THE MEANS & END Antya 20.13 sankirtana haite papa-samsara-nasana citta-suddhi, sarva-bhakti-sadhana-udgama "By performing congregational chanting of the Hare Krsna mantra, one can destroy the sinful condition of material existence, purify the unclean heart and awaken all varieties of devotional service. TEXT 14 krsna-premodgama, premamrta-asvadana krsna-prapti, sevamrta-samudre majjana "The result of chanting is that one awakens his love for Krsna and tastes transcendental bliss. Ultimately, one attains the association of Krsna and engages in His devotional service, as if immersing himself in a great ocean of love." TEXT 9 sankirtana-yajne kalau krsna-aradhana sei ta' sumedha paya krsnera carana "In this Age of Kali, the process of worshiping Krsna is to perform sacrifice by chanting the holy name of the Lord. One who does so is certainly very intelligent, and he attains shelter at the lotus feet of Krsna. TEXT 11 nama-sankirtana haite sarvanartha-nasa sarva-subhodaya, krsna-premera ullasa "Simply by chanting the holy name of Lord Krsna, one can be freed from all undesirable habits. This is the means of awakening all good fortune and initiating the flow of waves of love for Krsna. Your servant, Nayana-ranjana Dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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