Guest guest Posted August 1, 1999 Report Share Posted August 1, 1999 > Perfectly right. After some time it gets a bit unpalatable especially > discussing high level topics which have no explicit sastric references to > our knowledge. Essentially, the discussion between Gerald Surya and Nayana-ranjana Prabhus is about scriptural priority - "classical" scriptures (prasthan-traya) vs. Gosvami grantha. As the Gosvamis expand on the classical scriptures their conclusions take precedence in our sampradaya. This is not necessarily true about members of other sampradayas, academicians etc. This point is to be remembered in debates with those people, e.g. in the internet discussion groups. I don't mean to further the discussion, just to give a few requested references which I consider a reconciliation of the whole issue (in support of Nayana-ranjana P.) NOD, 4th ch., 4th paragraph from the end of chapter: "...those who are already promoted to the Vaikuntha planets and who possess the four kinds of liberation may also sometimes develop affection for Krsna and become promoted to Krsnaloka." Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Navadvipa Mahatmya, ch. 5,10,11: "'Brahma, hear these secret (antara) words, but do not reveal this openly in the scriptures. Taking the role of a devotee, I will taste the nectar of bhakti rasa and propagate the most rare process of sankirtana. I will make the devotees of all the previous avataras drunk with the nectar of Vrndavana." "'O brahmana, I will tell you a very secret thing. In a short time, there will be ecstasy given out here. Gauranga will appear at Mayapur in Sacidevi's house, and He will freely distribute prema. In all these places the Lord and His devotees will dance madly in the nectar of sankirtana. The Lord will perform kirtana along with the devotees of all the previous incarnations. The whole universe will be drowned in the flood of prema; other than the false logicians, everyone will receive that gift of love. "The Lord lifted the couple up with His two lotus hands and spoke nectarean words, 'Both of you are My exalted devotees, therefore I desired to give you My darsana. Very soon I will take birth in Nadia in the womb of Saci. With all the devotees of all the avataras, I will distribute the gift of prema and Krsna kirtana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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