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On 08 Sep 1999, Mundita Mastaka wrote:

 

> Yes, the jiva is the eternal servant of Krsna because he "is

> constitutionally favorable inclined towards the Supreme Lord", but before

> falling down he serves Him only in santa-rasa which in fact is not direct

> pure devotional service. As for the higher rasas, Srila Prabhupada says that

> the pure devotee can never forget Krsna, and you cannot argue with that.

>

 

I have heard of this explanation before, but it still does not answer my

question which is this: how can these accounts of "fall" be reconciled with

Baladeva and Vyaasa's "anaadi karma" argument from Vedaanta-Suutra? I mean, I

don't mean to be inconvenient or anything, but there is a whole body of

evidence there which still has not been addressed.

 

Also, I would like to know where exactly is the shaastric evidence

substantiating this idea that the jiivas were originally in shanta-rasa, and

then fell into the material world.

 

 

> > Btw: all of you, participating in the discussion, have you read "Our

> > Original Position"? Might be useful, since that's what this discussion is

> > all about.

>

> Yes, I have, prabhu. I have even translated this book into Russian three

> years ago at the request of my former guru. But now I can say that in fact

> the book does not establish anything but rather creates more confusion.

 

Admittedly, the book has some problems which OOP loyalists are reluctant to

acknowledge. There is the problem of its quoting Ramanuja out of context (much

to the chagrin of some Sri Vaishnavas I know), and also of its attempt to

explain the "anaadi karma" point as being a reference to either material or

spiritual activity - which does not make sense when you actually look at the

context in VS. I don't mean to create any offense by this either. I'm only

pointing out that just being referred to OOP isn't likely to clarify much. And

I do get the impression that those who insist that we turn to OOP for all the

answers don't really understand the issues presented therein either, but

choose to assume that everyone else will after looking at it.

 

regards,

 

Krishna

 

p.s. I hope you all had a wonderful Janmaashtami. I don't know where I came

from, but I sure know where I want to go next Janmaashtami Mahotsava....