Guest guest Posted September 6, 1999 Report Share Posted September 6, 1999 >>I'm not actually qualified to explain all these things, I just don't like >>the idea that pure devotees can forget Krsna, which is clearly refuted by >>Srila Prabhupada and other our acaryas. I was just reading "songs of the Vaisnava Acaryas", fourth printing (1996). Therein Bhaktivinoda Thakura writes in his "Bhuliya Tomare", "Forgetting You": "O Lord, forgetting you and coming to this material world, I have experienced a host of sins and sorrows. Now I approach your lotus feet and submit my tale of woe." Of course, he's playing the part of an ordinary conditioned soul. Someone has forgotten Krishna. But who are the conditioned souls, originally? Jivera svarupa haya krsnera nitya-dasa. Were they not pure devotees before the beginning of their conditioning? Is there such a category as "constitutionally impure souls"? Such idea is refuted in "Our Original Position", published by the GBC. If the souls were not originally pure, what were they, and if not coming from Krishna's pastimes, where did they come from? ys. Btw: all of you, participating in the discussion, have you read "Our Original Position"? Might be useful, since that's what this discussion is all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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