Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 > What were they, then? Since eternity 'til now? And they may become pure > devotees? I'm giving the same quote again: "Before acquiring material designations, the living entity is supremely pure. EVEN THOUGH HE IS NOT ENGAGED IN SERVING THE SUPREME LORD [emphasis mine], he remains situated in the neutral position of santa-rasa due to his marginal nature. Though the living entity born from the marginal potency does not at that time exhibit a taste for serving the Lord due to a lack of knowledge of self realization, his direct propensity of serving the Supreme Lord nevertheless remains within him in a dormant state." > If they were constitutionally impure They are pure, even "supremely pure", but this is not as same as to be a pure devotee in a particular rasa with the Lord. > how do they become pure? "And on the platform of progress, if a living entity cultivates transcendental sound vibration and revives the process of remembering the lotus feet of Sri Krsna, he then achieves scientific spiritual knowledge. By this process, all anarthas are destroyed and he becomes situated in a supremely auspicious position." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 I take back the > question,sincerily im not interested in philosofical conversations with any > body not initiated by a ISKCON GURU yours > premananda goura das This is the granddisciples conference - how could someone on it not have an ISKCON guru, or am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 >>I take back the >>> question,sincerily im not interested in philosofical conversations with >>> any body not initiated by a ISKCON GURU yours premananda goura das >> >>This is the granddisciples conference - how could someone on it not have >>an ISKCON guru, or am I missing something? Yeah. It's also the Krishna-katha conference. Somehow my texts end up in there also. I have a guru, though. That's what the abbreviation SS says - it does not refer to Simply Stupid. It might, though. Hare Krishna and happy year to everyone. See you in Goloka Vrindavana. ys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Dear ekatma prabhujii ,first of all all glories to the vaisnavas devotees of KRSNA,you know??I feel happy to be part of this beutifull family,you are my brother,well cousin,but any way I respect you and love all the devotees,prabhujii that was my point,you said radha krsna lila we came from there,acording to what you just accepted,yes we are coming from the spiritual world,but all I said before was that it was dangerous to claim,from radhakrsna lila,because now days in ISKCON,we have to be carefull the way we say things otherwise,krsna forbids we have a new clu,the ones that are coming from radhakrsna lila and the ones that come from another lila,you got my point?? ps can you please quote were is stated that LORD NRSMHA only apear in the material universe??im sorry my ignorance. yours premananda goura das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Dandabats >with what authority > ekanat prabhu bluntly makes that statment,.WE HAVE COME FROM RADHA KRSNA > LILAS,for me sounds bogus, I very like your disscusions. (For Premananda Prabhu - my guru is HH Indradyumna Swami) Srila Prabhupada writes in the commentary to the song Lalasamayi Prarthana "One has to learn of the conjugal loving affairs of Radha-Krsna through the teachings of six Gosvamis. Narottama dasa Thakura directs us not to try to understand the conjugal love of Radha-Krsna by our own endeavour. We should try to understand this yugala-piriti under the direction of the Goswamis" In the commentary to Savarana sri gaura mahima Srila Prabhupada writes "If one appreaciates the merciful pastimes of Lord Caitanya and feels ecstasy and sometimes cries, this process will immediately help him to understand the pastimes of Radha-Krsna, which are called nitya-lila. (...) if one really wants permanent love affairs, he must enter into the pastimes of Radha-Krsna. One who understand the transcendental, eternal pastimes of Radha-Krsna reaches the highest perfectional stage of devotional service." My short realisation - Is it actually so important to discuss whether we come from or not come from? We happened to have the most rare mercy in the Lord Brahma's DAY - we are in the Lord Caitanyas movement and we have the quickest way to approach Radha-Krsna pastimes, as stated above. So let us do it. > ps > I like to thank you for the wonderfull writing that you send,thats all I > want to read,direct from pure devotees like the goswamis,SRILA > PRABHUPADA,BAKATIVINODA THAKURA, > please forgive me im not interested in some bodys statmentes. > if is an ofense to ask whos disciple he is please I take back the > question,sincerily im not interested in philosofical conversations with > any body not initiated by a ISKCON GURU yours > premananda goura das I don't think it is the most wonderful way of discrimination, because some ISKCON initiated devots may divert you far and far, but not ISKCON devot may bring you closer to Sri Sri Gaura Nitay. Anyway i am ISKCON devot and still strugle with my sadhana, mind and senses. Haribol to everybody from Poland Your servant Dvarkadhis das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 >>acording to what you just accepted,yes we are coming from the spiritual >>world,but all I said before was that it was dangerous to claim,from >>radhakrsna lila,because now days in ISKCON,we have to be carefull the way >>we say things otherwise,krsna forbids we have a new clu,the ones that are >>coming from radhakrsna lila and the ones that come from another lila,you >>got my point?? I don't find it dangerous as long as the aim of our discussion is to find out how things really are. And in order to arrive to a conclusion, a variety of angles ought to be presented. As has been done. On the authority of Krishnadasa Kaviraja in CC, I trust that such discussions help one strenghten his Krishna consciousness. (Folio people, please send it in) The conclusion is yet to come. >>can you please quote were is stated that LORD NRSMHA only apear in the >>material universe??im sorry my ignorance. I just read Srila Prabhupada explain on nitya and naimittika forms of the Supreme. Nitya-eternal; Naimittika-appearing for a purpose. Also I believe in CC we find such a statement. (Again, folio people, please offer your helping hand - I don't have the time just now to go through all my books.) ys, ekatma das. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 1999 Report Share Posted September 10, 1999 >>>This is the granddisciples conference - how could someone on it not have >>>an ISKCON guru, or am I missing something? > >Yeah. It's also the Krishna-katha conference. I hvae removed Krishna Katha from receiver's list. To avoid mix up. ys, bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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