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> What were they, then? Since eternity 'til now? And they may become pure

> devotees?

 

I'm giving the same quote again:

 

"Before acquiring material designations, the living entity is supremely

pure. EVEN THOUGH HE IS NOT ENGAGED IN SERVING THE SUPREME LORD

[emphasis mine], he remains situated in the neutral position of santa-rasa

due to

his marginal nature. Though the living entity born from the marginal potency

does not at that time exhibit a taste for serving the Lord due to a lack of

knowledge of self realization, his direct propensity of serving the Supreme

Lord nevertheless remains within him in a dormant state."

 

> If they were constitutionally impure

 

They are pure, even "supremely pure", but this is not as same as to be a

pure

devotee in a particular rasa with the Lord.

 

> how do they become pure?

 

"And on the platform of progress, if a living entity cultivates

transcendental sound vibration and revives the process of remembering the

lotus feet of Sri Krsna, he then achieves scientific spiritual knowledge. By

this process, all anarthas are destroyed and he becomes situated in a

supremely auspicious position."

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I take back the

> question,sincerily im not interested in philosofical conversations with any

> body not initiated by a ISKCON GURU yours

> premananda goura das

 

This is the granddisciples conference - how could someone on it not have an

ISKCON guru, or am I missing something?

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>>I take back the

>>> question,sincerily im not interested in philosofical conversations with

>>> any body not initiated by a ISKCON GURU yours premananda goura das

>>

>>This is the granddisciples conference - how could someone on it not have

>>an ISKCON guru, or am I missing something?

 

Yeah. It's also the Krishna-katha conference. Somehow my texts end up in

there also. I have a guru, though. That's what the abbreviation SS says - it

does not refer to Simply Stupid. It might, though.

 

Hare Krishna and happy year to everyone. See you in Goloka Vrindavana.

 

ys.

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Dear ekatma prabhujii ,first of all all glories to the vaisnavas devotees of

KRSNA,you know??I feel happy to be part of this beutifull family,you are my

brother,well cousin,but any way I respect you and love all the

devotees,prabhujii that was my point,you said radha krsna lila we came from

there,acording to what you just accepted,yes we are coming from the spiritual

world,but all I said before was that it was dangerous to claim,from

radhakrsna lila,because now days in ISKCON,we have to be carefull the way we

say things otherwise,krsna forbids we have a new clu,the ones that are coming

from radhakrsna lila and the ones that come from another lila,you got my

point??

ps

can you please quote were is stated that LORD NRSMHA only apear in the

material universe??im sorry my ignorance.

yours

premananda goura das

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Dandabats

 

>with what authority

> ekanat prabhu bluntly makes that statment,.WE HAVE COME FROM RADHA KRSNA

> LILAS,for me sounds bogus,

 

I very like your disscusions. (For Premananda Prabhu - my guru is HH

Indradyumna Swami) Srila Prabhupada writes in the commentary to the song

Lalasamayi Prarthana "One has to learn of the conjugal loving affairs of

Radha-Krsna through the teachings of six Gosvamis. Narottama dasa Thakura

directs us not to try to understand the conjugal love of Radha-Krsna by our

own endeavour. We should try to understand this yugala-piriti under the

direction of the Goswamis" In the commentary to Savarana sri gaura mahima

Srila Prabhupada writes "If one appreaciates the merciful pastimes of Lord

Caitanya and feels ecstasy and sometimes cries, this process will

immediately help him to understand the pastimes of Radha-Krsna, which are

called nitya-lila. (...) if one really wants permanent love affairs, he must

enter into the pastimes of Radha-Krsna. One who understand the

transcendental, eternal pastimes of Radha-Krsna reaches the highest

perfectional stage of devotional service."

 

My short realisation - Is it actually so important to discuss whether we

come from or not come from? We happened to have the most rare mercy in the

Lord Brahma's DAY - we are in the Lord Caitanyas movement and we have the

quickest way to approach Radha-Krsna pastimes, as stated above. So let us do

it.

 

> ps

> I like to thank you for the wonderfull writing that you send,thats all I

> want to read,direct from pure devotees like the goswamis,SRILA

> PRABHUPADA,BAKATIVINODA THAKURA,

> please forgive me im not interested in some bodys statmentes.

> if is an ofense to ask whos disciple he is please I take back the

> question,sincerily im not interested in philosofical conversations with

> any body not initiated by a ISKCON GURU yours

> premananda goura das

 

I don't think it is the most wonderful way of discrimination, because some

ISKCON initiated devots may divert you far and far, but not ISKCON devot may

bring you closer to Sri Sri Gaura Nitay. Anyway i am ISKCON devot and still

strugle with my sadhana, mind and senses.

 

Haribol to everybody from Poland

Your servant

Dvarkadhis das

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>>acording to what you just accepted,yes we are coming from the spiritual

>>world,but all I said before was that it was dangerous to claim,from

>>radhakrsna lila,because now days in ISKCON,we have to be carefull the way

>>we say things otherwise,krsna forbids we have a new clu,the ones that are

>>coming from radhakrsna lila and the ones that come from another lila,you

>>got my point??

 

I don't find it dangerous as long as the aim of our discussion is to find

out how things really are. And in order to arrive to a conclusion, a variety

of angles ought to be presented. As has been done. On the authority of

Krishnadasa Kaviraja in CC, I trust that such discussions help one

strenghten his Krishna consciousness. (Folio people, please send it in)

 

The conclusion is yet to come.

 

>>can you please quote were is stated that LORD NRSMHA only apear in the

>>material universe??im sorry my ignorance.

 

I just read Srila Prabhupada explain on nitya and naimittika forms of the

Supreme. Nitya-eternal; Naimittika-appearing for a purpose. Also I believe

in CC we find such a statement. (Again, folio people, please offer your

helping hand - I don't have the time just now to go through all my books.)

 

ys, ekatma das.

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>>>This is the granddisciples conference - how could someone on it not have

>>>an ISKCON guru, or am I missing something?

>

>Yeah. It's also the Krishna-katha conference.

 

I hvae removed Krishna Katha from receiver's list. To avoid mix up.

 

ys, bb

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