Taking Srila Prabhupada Srtaight

[Guest guest]

> But if you are chanting the holy name, even

> with offences, the activity itself is spiritual because Krishna's name is

> completely spiritual.

 

Well, it is possible to be hearing and chanting and still be materialistic.

As

Srila Prabhupada warns us

 

He clearly mentions in this verse that one must refer to the Vedic literatures

and other, supplementary literatures and follow the conclusion of the Vedas. An

invented devotional attitude simply creates disturbances in the transcendental

realm. If a person overly addicted to family life takes to Srimad-Bhagavatam or

Krsna consciousness to earn a livelihood, his activity is certainly offensive.

One should not become a caste guru and sell mantras for the benefit of mundane

customers, nor should one make disciples for a livelihood. All these activities

are offensive. One should not make a livelihood by forming a professional band

to carry out congregational chanting, nor should one perform devotional service

when one is attached to mundane society, friendship and love. Nor should one be

dependent on so-called social etiquette. All of this is mental speculation.

None

of these things can be compared to unalloyed devotional service. No one can

compare unalloyed devotional service, Krsna consciousness, to mundane

activities. There are many unauthorized parties pretending to belong to the Sri

Caitanya cult, and some are known as aula, baula, karttabhaja, neda, daravesa,

sani, sakhibheki, smarta, jata-gosani, ativadi, cudadhari and gauranga-nagari.

Moreover, there are those who take the caste gosvamis' opinions of such parties

as bona fide, comparing these opinions to those of the six Gosvamis, headed by

Sri Rupa and Sri Sanatana. This is simply another cheating process. There are

also nondevotees who compose unauthorized songs, who establish different

temples

for money, who worship the Deity as priests for salaries, who accept caste

brahmanism as all in all, and who do not know the value of a pure Vaisnava.

Actually the caste brahmanas of the smarta community are opposed to the

principles of the Satvata-pancaratra. Furthermore, there are many Mayavadis and

those overly addicted to material sense enjoyment. None of these can be

compared

to a person who is purely engaged in preaching Krsna consciousness. Every Krsna

conscious person is constantly endeavoring to utilize different transcendental

devices in the service of the Lord. Such a devotee renounces all material

enjoyment and completely dedicates himself to the service of his spiritual

master and Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He may be a perfect celibate, a

restrained householder, a regulated vanaprastha or a tridandi-sannyasi in the

renounced order. It doesn't matter. The pseudo transcendentalists and the pure

devotees cannot be compared, nor can one argue that a person can invent his own

way of worship.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Madhya 8.83

[Guest guest]

> Sure, I agree. But when we are in the sadhana stage what develops our bhava

> is thinking of Gopal and NOT serving a cow. One can develop krsna-prema

> without being directly engaged in cow protection, but if one simply takes

> care of cows and not hearing, chanting and remembering he won't get

> krsna-prema. At least this is not the authoritative process.

> That's the difference I was thinking of.

 

Point taken. Sorry for the delayed response.

 

ys pcd

[Guest guest]

> Sure, I agree. But when we are in the sadhana stage what develops our bhava

> is thinking of Gopal and NOT serving a cow. One can develop krsna-prema

> without being directly engaged in cow protection, but if one simply takes

> care of cows and not hearing, chanting and remembering he won't get

> krsna-prema. At least this is not the authoritative process.

> That's the difference I was thinking of.

 

Point taken. Sorry for the delayed response.

 

ys pcd