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Dear Bimal Krsna Prabhu, _/\o_

 

> Is it possible for some devotee(s) to please let me know from which

> scripture the following shloka comes from:

>

> janmana jayate sudrah

> samskarad bhaved dvijah

> veda-pathad bhaved vipro

> brahma janati brahmanah

 

I'd recommend looking into Sanskrit dictionaries, dharma-sastras etc.

The closest one in Manu-samhita (10.4):

 

Brahmana, the Kshatriya, and the Vaisya castes (varna) are the twice-born

ones, but the fourth, the Sudra, has one birth only; there is no fifth

(caste).

 

> Also can some one please provide references (besides Bg. 4.13 & SB 7.11.35)

> from the scriptures in connection Brahmanas being recognised by guna & karma

> and not by janma.

 

from my limited resources:

 

yaviyamsa ekasitirjayanteyah pitur adesakara maha-salina

maha-srotriya yajna-silah karma-visuddha brahmana-babhuvuh.

 

In addition to these nineteen sons mentioned above, there were eighty-one

younger ones, all born of Rsabhadeva and Jayanti. According to the order of

their father, they became well cultured, well behaved, very pure in their

activities and expert in Vedic knowledge and the performance of Vedic rituals.

Thus they all became perfectly qualified brahmanas. (Srimad-Bhagavatam 5.4.13)

 

 

sudre tu yad bhavel laksma

dvije tac ca na vidyate

na vai sudro bhavec chudro

brahmano na ca brahmanah

 

"If the characteristics of a brahmana are found in a sudra and not in a

brahmana, that sudra should not be known as a sudra, and that brahmana should

not be known as a brahmana." (Mahabharata, Vana Parva, Chapter 180)

 

 

sudra-yonau hi jatasya

sad-gunanupatisthatah

arjave vartamanasya

brahmanyam abhijayate

 

"If a person born in a sudra family has developed the qualities of a brahmana,

such as satya [truthfulness], sama [peacefulness], dama [self-control] and

arjava [simplicity], he attains the exalted position of a brahmana."

(Mahabharata, Vana Parva, Chapter 211)

 

 

sthito brahmana-dharmena

brahman yam upajiva ti

ksatriyo vatha vaisyo va

brahma-bhuyah sa gacchati

ebhis tu karmabhir devi

subhair acaritais tatha

sudro brahmanatam yati

vaisyah ksatriyatam vrajet

na yonir napi samskaro

na srutam na ca santatih

karanani dvijatvasya

vrttam eva tu karanam

 

"If one is factually situated in the occupation of a brahmana, he must be

considered a brahmana, even if born of a ksatriya or vaisya family.

"O Devi, if even a sudra is actually engaged in the occupation and pure

behavior of a brahmana, he becomes a brahmana. Moreover, a vaisya can become a

ksatriya.

"Therefore, neither the source of one's birth, nor his reformation, nor his

education is the criterion of a brahmana. The vrtta, or occupation, is the

real standard by which one is known as a brahmana." (Mahabharata, Anusasana

Parva, Chapter 163)

 

 

Five brahmins, though as learned as Brhaspati, are never honoured: the

impatient, the harsh, the haughty, the ill-clad and the uninvited. (Garuda

Purana 1.115.22)

 

 

tesam agama margena suddhir na srauta vartmana

 

In Kali-yuga, whatever brahmanas take birth are equal to sudras and are

equally impure. According to scriptural injunctions, they are purified, but in

Kali-yuga, they cannot be purified by chanting or learning Vedic mantras.

(Hari Bhakti Vilasa 5.5, from Visnu Yamala)

 

 

(He who has not been initiated) should not pronounce (any) Vedic text

excepting (those required for) the performance of funeral rites, since he is

on a level with a Sudra before his birth from the Veda. (Manu-samhita 2.172)

 

 

Canakya's Niti-sastra, ch. 11:

 

13. The brahmana who is engrossed in worldly affairs, brings up cows and is

engaged in trade is really called a vaishya.

 

14. The brahmana who deals in lac-die, articles, oil, indigo, silken cloth,

honey, clarified butter, liquor, and flesh is called a shudra.

 

15. The brahmana who thwarts the doings of others, who is hypocritical,

selfish, and a deceitful hater, and while speaking mildly cherishes cruelty in

his heart, is called a cat.

 

16. The brahmana who destroys a pond, a well, a tank, a garden and a temple is

called a mleccha.

 

17. The brahmana who steals the property of the Deities and the spiritual

preceptor, who cohabits with another's wife, and who maintains himself by

eating anything and everything is called a chandala.

 

 

Regarding the position of Vaisnava vs. brahmana and other varnas (and also

outcastes) please refer to the file vaisvarn.txt in this file area.

 

ys bh. Jan

 

PS: I also look for an exact reference for the "kalau sudra sambhavah" verse,

allegedly from Skanda Purana. Anyone has Sk.P. with index? Thanks in advance.

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