Guest guest Posted October 13, 1999 Report Share Posted October 13, 1999 Dear Prabhus and Maharajas Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! All glories to ISKCON! > janmana jayate sudrah > samskarad bhaved dvijah > veda-pathad bhaved vipro > brahma janati brahmanah I'm sorry but i did not find this text in BSST book. Below i write some qouts from "Brahmana and Vaisnavism". First come quots regarding seminal brahmana, then who is fit to become brahmana. I cite few quots regarding seminal brahmana but i cite BSST sentences to give background for our understanding why do we actually discuss this topic. Dharma-sastra has stated devah paroksa devah pratyaksa devah brahmanah brahmanair loka dharyante brahmananam prasadena divi tisthanti devatah brahmanabhihitam vakyam na mithya jayate kvacit yad brahmanas tustatama vadanti tad devatah pratyabhinandayanti tustesu tustah satatm bhavanti pratyaksa devesu paroksa devah "The demigods are not seen by gross senses.The brahmanas are manifestations of the demigods. The brahmanas sustain all the planets. The demigods reside in the heavenly planets by the mercy of the brahmanas.The brahmanas' words can never be fause. Whatever the brahmanas speak in great satisfaction is accepted by the demigods. When the manifested forms of the demigods, the brahmanas, are satisfied, the demigods, who are beyonde sense perception, are also satesfied."(Visnu 19.20-23) In such a mood Dharma sastras go on glorification of the brahmanas. Dharma sastras describe seminal brahmana, for ex.: yajna-siddhy-artham anaghan brahmanan mukhato 'srjat brahmanyam brahmanenaivam utpanno brahmanah smrtah "From the mouth the sinless brahmanas were created for the purpose of performing sacrifices. The child born of a brahmana in the womb of his brahmana wife is known as a brahmana." (Harita 1.12,15) When the sages who compiled the twenty Dharma-sastras assisted the kings in controlling and maintaining human society, they directed society in following the path of ritualistic fruitive activities. Those rules were followed according to the particular place. In the opinion of some persons, at the beginning of the Kali age the Manu Dharma-sastra and the doctrine of Parasara Muni were prominently accepted, while the other Dharma-sastras were neglacted. Others say that the doctrine if Harita was prominent and the activities prescribed by the other Dharma-sastras were neglected. Generally, whatever one found convenient was accepted, without regard for other's consent and liking. One cannot expect that the ritualistic smriti-sastras will be fully honored by all persons, at all places and at all times. By seminal consideration, the descendants of a brahmana are also brahmanas - this belief has been generally accepted for a long time. There is no shortage of evidence from the smritis, Puranas, and histories in support of this belief. Yet by the evidence that we have presentsd regarding the degradation of brahmanas, the disqualification of brahmanas who commit sinful activities, and the uncertainty of who is a real brahmana, every listener will be able to understand how qualified the present day descendants of brahmanas are. Chandogya Upanisad says asmat kulino 'nanucya brahma bandhur iva bhavati "A brahma-bandhu, or a mere relative of a brahmana, is one who belongs to our brahmana community but has not studied the Vedas" If someone blasphemes the Vedas, the ritual textbooks that follow the Vedic version, the Dharma-sastras, the Puranas, the Tantras, as well as neutral speakers of the truth and think that this will enhance the prestige of degraded persons like themselves, then honest fruitive workers will never approve. Let the brahmanas become purely brahminical and let the prestige of the brahmanas who have actually become brahminical remain intact forever - this is the intention of the sastras and the speakers of the sastras; they never want to condemn brahmanas. One should not engage in the sin of criticizing brahmanas. Mahabharata, Vana-parva states nadhyapanat yajanad va anyasmad va pratigrahat doso bhavati vipranam jvalitagni sama dvijah durveda va suveda va prakrtah samskrtas tatha brahmana navamantavya bhasmacchanna ivagnayah yatha smasane diptaujah pavako naiva dusyati evam vidvan avidvan va brahmano naiva dusyati "Brahmanas are like burning fire; therefore even if they do not study the Vedas, even if they act as prisets for those who should not perform Vedic sacrifices, or even if they accept charity from low-class people, they are not at fault." "Whether brahmanas possess knowledge of the Vedas or are devoid of knowledge of the Vedas, whether they are worldly or have undergone the reformatory processes, they do not deserve to be disrespected, for they are like fire covered by ashes." "As the bright fire of the funeral pyre is not considered impure, a brahmana, whether foolish or learned, is not faulty." Still if one ascribes the prestige of a Satya-yuga brahmana to a Kali-yuga brahmana, the result is simply a distortion of the truth. If one offers a brahmana more respect than he deserves, then the glories of he who offers the respect will increase and the respected brahmana's affection for him will increase. But if a respected brahmana forgets his actual position out of pride, then when he remembers the following statement from the Visnu-yamalahe will be agitated and lose sleep at night. When those brahmanas who know the condemnations of the Visnu-yamala hear such things, they should keep their mouths shut. Visnu-yamala in Hari-bhakti-vilasa, in the begining of fifth Vilasa states asuddhah sudra-kalpa hi brahmanah kali-sambhavah "The brahmanas born in Kali-yuga are impure and no better than sudras" In Kali-yuga seminal lines are not pure, so those born as brahmanas are equal to sudras and qualified only in name. Such brahmanas cannot be purified by Vediv rituals. Rather they can be purified by following the Tantras. Anyway,leaving aside the evidence we have quoted so far from the scriptures regarding seminal brahmanas, we will now discuss the processes mentioned in the sastras by which a person attains the position of an actual brahmana, and who is a fit candidate for becoming brahmana. First comes the whole Vrajasucikopanisad (quoted already by Nayana-ranjana Prabhu) Second comes the Chandogya Upanisad of the Sama Veda (4th prapathaka, 4th khanda) - that is history how Satyakama, the son of Jabala, aproached Gautama for initiation. (It's long, so i write only last verse) tam hovaca na etad abrahmano vivaktum arhati. samidham saumya ahara upayitva nesye. na satyad aga iti. "Gautama then said - My dear son, no one other than a brahmana can speak such truth that you have spoken. Therefore you are a brahmana, and i accept you. O gentle one, go bring wood for sacrifice. - Jambala replied 'I am going right now to bring wood' Gautama said 'Never divert from the truth'." Now i will cite six evidences from Mahabharata: 1.Santi-parva, Moksa-dharma, ch 188 himsanrta-priya lubdhah sarva-karmopajivinah krsnah sauca-paribrastas te dvijah sudratam gatah "When the brahmanas commit violence, speak lies, become greedy, earn their livelihood by any and all activities, lose their purity by sinful activities, then they become degraded into sudras." 2.Santi-parva, ch.189 bhrgur uvaca jata-karmadibhir yas tu samskaraih samskrtah suci vedadhyayana-sampannah satsu karmasv avasthitah saucacara-sthitah samyag vighasasi guru-priyah nitya-vrati satya-parah sa vai brahmana ucyate satya-danam athadroha anrsamsyam trapa ghrna tapas ca drsyate yatra sa brahmana iti smrtah sarva-bhaksa-ratir nityam sarva-dharma-karo 'sucih tyakta-vedas tv anacarah sa vai sudra iti smrtah sudre caitad bhavel laksyam dvije ca na vidyate na vai sudro bhavec chudro brahmano brahmano na ca "Brghu replied: A person who has been purified by the reformatory processes like jata-karma, or name-giving ceremony, who is clean, devoted to studying the Vedas, expert in the six occupations like worship and teaching worship, situated in pure conduct, eating the remnants of his spiritual master, dear to the spiritual master, regularly engaged in performing vows, and fixed in truthfulness is considered a brahmana. A human being who is truthful, charitable, shy, not hateful, austere, not vengeful, and not cruel is a brahmana. One who is attached to eating all kinds of foods and performing all kinds of activities, who is impure, deviant from the principles of Vedic culture, and ill-behaved is known as a sudra. If the symptoms of a brahmana are found in a sudra and in the symptoms of a sudra found in a brahmana, then the sudra should not be called a sudra and the brahmana should not be called a brahmana." 3.Vana-parva, ch.211 sudra-yonau hi jatasya sad-gunanupatisthatah vaisyatvam labhate brahman ksatriyatvam tathaiva ca arjave vartamanasya brahmanyam abhijayate "O brahmana, if a person is born in the family of a sudra and posesses good qualities, he becomes a vaisya or a kstriya. And if he possesses the quality of simplicity, he is a brahmana." 4.Vana-parva, ch.215 tam brahmanam aham manye vrttena hi bhaved dvijah "Indeed, the only criteria for being a brahmana is to possess pure characteristics." 5. Santi-parva, ch.318 sarve varna brahmana brahmajas ca brahmasyato brahmanah samprasutah bahubhayam vai ksatriyah samprasutah nabhyam vaisyah padatas capi sudrah sarve varna nanyatha veditavyah tat-stho brahma tasthivams caparo yas tasmai nityam moksam ahur narendra "Persons of all varnas are brahmanas, because they are all born from Lord Brahma. The brahmanas were born from the mouth of Brahma, the kstriyasfrom his arms, the vaisyas were born from his navel, and the sudras were born from his legs. Do not consider the varnas in another way. One who is fixed in knowledge is a brahmana. Therefore, O king, this moksa-sastra was spoken for the benefit of those brahmanas and ksatriyas who have atteined knowledge. This is the opinion of ancient scholars." 6.Vana-parva, ch. 180 yudhisthira uvaca satyam danam ksama-silam anrsamsyam tapo ghrna drsyante yatra nagendra sa brahmana iti smrtah "Maharaja Yudhisthira replied: A person who possesses truthfulness, charity, forgiveness, sobriety, gentleness, austerity, and lack of hatred is called a brahmana." yudhistira uvaca sudre tu yad bhavel laksma dvije tac ca na vidyate na vai sudro bhavec chudro brahmano na ca brahmanah yatraital laksyate sarpa vrttam sa brahmanah smrtah yatraitan na bhavet sarpa tam sudram iti nirdiset "Mharaja Yudhisthira replied: If such symptoms are found in a sudra he should never be called a sudra, just as a brahmana is not a brahmana if he does not possess these qualities. O snake, only a person who is endowed with the characteristics of a brahmana can be called a brahmana, otherwise he is a sudra." By these six separate evidences quoted from the Mahabharata, it is clearly understood that one should be accepted without hesitation as a savitrya or daiksya (Vedic or spiritually initiated) brahmana if he possesses simplicity and the nature of a brahamana, regardless his birth. Those who are brahmanas by birth are very othodox in regards to their eating and sexual relations. But these principles are not obstacles for the savitrya brahmanas. We do not find any obstacles in the smooth performance of such persons' spiritual brahminicam duties. All sastric evidence that is unfavorable to the ascertainment of who is a brahmana on the basis of seminal descent are reasonable and unrefutable by argument. The Dharma-satras that sipport the seminal brahmanas do not contradict Vyasadeva. The evidence in Sri Mahabharata, however, is more important and more respected than that of the Dharma-sastras. The evidence of the Dharma-sastras is only theoretical, while the evidence in the Mahabharata is practicle. Those who oppose this principle will simply confirm themselves as evil doers of this world. Srimad Bhagavatam describes varnas in 7 Canto 11.21-24,35, and confirms that qualities are important not birth. (Next pages describe examples of persons born in brahmana family but degraded, and those born in lower families but who atteined brahmana standard. It is too long to cite) The various scriptural references describing the qualifications of brahmanas and showing respect for brahmanas refer to both seminal brahamanas and those who have become brahmanas by initiation. These references from scriptures on karma, jnana, and bhakti do not refer only to seminal brahmanas. In no case are brahmanas by initiation disregarded. Although in the opinion of some scriptures there is no possibility of becoming an initiated brahmana unless one is a seminal brahmana, this restriction was imposed only because of narrow-minded social traditions. When this narrow-mindedness is given up by deep research and higher education, then the entire world will be illuminated by the glories of the eternal Aryan culture. Then we will understand how futile is the attempt of frogs to fill the universe with the sound of their croaking. (Above excerpts are from the Prakrti-jana-kanda. Sometimes i changes the sentence little bit in grammar in order to keep the flow of reading, especially when i cite sentences from diffrent places and put them together. This refers to the seminal part in order to make it shorter. With the latter part i cite two paragraphs in full.) your servant Dvarkadhis das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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