The officiating-acarya system with regular gurus & their disciples

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> > Nayana-ranjana prabhu writes:

> >

> > > This argument is completely invalid. Whatever you say the Absolute

> > > appears absolutely only on the lips of an completely unalloyed devotee

> > > i.e an uttama adhikari. One may be repeating Krishna's or guru's words

> > > as it is but one may not have realization. Simply repeating like a

> > > parrot is not enough. That is why only the pure devotee can fully give

> > > us the Absolute Truth because he has realized the Absolute Truth.

>

> > (...)Again, Srila Prabhupada de-mystified the position of guru for us.

> > It

> >is

> > non-elitist, and non-subjective. Who is the "purest" devotee to hear the

> > same message of Lord Krishna from is not the issue - simply passing the

> > unchanged message is the qualification for being a bone-fide spiritual

> > master, and no jiggery-pokery is involved.

>

> Srila Bhaktissidhanta wrote:

>

> "Unless one possesses unalloyed devotion, he cannot have the good fortune

> to receive initiation or TEACHINGS on devotional service from a spiritual

> master. If a person is careless, then after obtaining mantras and the

> process for worshiping the Lord through aural reception, they become the

> source of material attachement. Those who give up duplicity and properly

> hear the topics of Hari from a bonafide spiritual master and those whose

> ears are able to properly receive such topiocs, ONLY THEY ARE ABLE TO

> REPEAT THE SAME WORDS." (Brahmana and Vaisnava, page 71)

>

> So it is the issue "who is the purest devotee". Passing the spiritual

> message unchanged is not as easy as repeating the wordly speculations and

> messages.

>

> your servant

> Dvarkadhis das

 

 

Srila Prabhupada: "What Krsna says, I repeat, like parrot. That’s all."

============ REF. Bhagavad-gita 7.4 -- Bombay, February 19, 1974 (see below)

 

Therefore, whatever we speak, we do not speak anything which Krsna does not

speak. That is our quality. I have several times, I was eulogized by many

persons, “Swamiji, you have done wonderful.” So I say that I am not a

wonderful man. I simply follow Krsna. What Krsna says, I repeat, like

parrot. That’s all. I have no knowledge. But Krsna says that “This is this.”

I accept it. And then that will be... That we shall be benefited. Just like

a child. If he accepts the instruction of the parents, he gets knowledge.

Parent will not cheat. If a child does not know a small watch, he asks,

“Father, what is this?” Father can explain, “My dear child, this is called

watch. You can see time, what is the time now.” That is perfect knowledge.

So that knowledge is perfect. Therefore in the beginning of this chapter and

in the Fourth Chapter we said, evam parampara-praptam imam rajarsayo viduh

[bg. 4.2]. If we get knowledge by the pure parampara system, pure disciplic

succession, that knowledge is perfect. Then our life is perfect. And if we

want to try to expound knowledge by our limited power, that is imperfect

knowledge. That knowledge is not perfect. That is concoction. If you want to

take perfect knowledge, then you must get from the authorities. Evam

parampara. That is Vedic knowledge.

 

tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet

samit-panih srotriyam brahma-nistham

[MU 1.2.12]

 

One must go to the guru. And who is guru? Guru, srotriyam

brahma-nistham—“One who has heard from the parampara system and he has

become completely convinced in the understanding of Brahman.”============

REF. Bhagavad-gita 7.4 -- Bombay, February 19, 1974

 

Your servant,

Taraka dasa