Guest guest Posted December 6, 1999 Report Share Posted December 6, 1999 This way Ekanath P. answered my question some time ago: ---- The following comes from the Bengali book called "Sri-Gaudiya-Vaisnava- Abhidhana" (GVA). It is unclear from the text whether the second verse (raamaanujam...) is supposed to be from the Padma P. I also looked up under the entry 'sampradaya' in the Sabda-Kalpa-Druma Sanskrit-Sanskrit dictionary. There we have the same quote from the Padma P. but it is a little longer, beginning as follows: Sriiman naaraayaano brahmaa naarado vyaasa eva ca Sriila madhvaH padmanaabho nRharir maadhavas tathaa puruSottamo brahmaanyo vyaasa-tiirtha-munis tathaa Sriimal lakSmii-patiH Sriimaan maadhavendra-puris tathaa sampradaaya vihiinaa ye mantraaste niSphalaa mataaH ataH kalau bhaviSyanti catvaaraH sampradaayinaH Srii-brahma-rudra-sanakaa vaiSNavaaH kSiti-paavanaaH there is an alternative reading for the second-last line: Srii-maadhvi-rudra-sanakaa The last verse is not quoted in the SKD: raamaanuujaM SriiH svii-cakre maadhvaacaaryaM catur-mukhaH Srii-viSNusvaaminaM rudro nimbaadityam catuH-sanaH There is a problem with verse references from the Padma P. There are a number of different recensions of the Padma P. There are mainly four manuscripts: the Bengali recension, the Anandasrama edition, the Venkatesvara edition, the Vangavasi edition. The latter three editions are at least similar, but the Bengali recension is very different. The chapter arrangements in the other three editions are also different, so that the references hardly match. It is therefore very important with references of the Padma P. to give the name of the edition. In Korsnas I have the Anandasrama edition from 1893. It is very good but has no verse index. Next time when I go to India I will get an edition with verse index. At least now I found a very good book about Puranas in which the different chapter structures are explained and this should help us to find verses. ---- Text COM:2590575 (32 lines) Madana-mohana (das) MG (IC - R) 29-Aug-99 20:06 +0200 (Krsna) Katha [2674] Reference: Text COM:2590397 by (Bhakta) Jan Mares (NE-BBT Czech) Comment: Text COM:2590684 by Nayana-ranjana (das) (BBT Bombay - IN) Comment: Text COM:2607513 by WWW: Krishna Susarla (Dallas TX - USA) <krishna (AT) tumora (DOT) swmed.edu> Looking for a verse - four sampradayas --------------------------- > atah kalau bhavisyanti catvara sampradayinah > sri-brahma-rudra-sanaka vaisnavah ksiti-pavanah > > The continuation gives the names of acaryas in Brahma sampradaya and the > well-known verse 'sampradaya vihina ye mantras te nisphala matah.' Here is the verse in full (by the way, it is not to be found anymore in Padma-purana, and therefore is claimed to be a vaisnava interpolation by some): samprAdya-vihInA ye mantrAs te niSphalA matAH atah kalau bhaviSyanti catvAraH sampradAyinaH SrI-brahma-rudra-sanakA vaiSNavAH kSiti-pAvanAH catvAras te kalau bhAvyA hy utkale puruSottamAt rAmAnujaM SrI svIcakre madhvAcAryaM caturmukhaH SrI viSNusvAmInaM rudro nimbAdityam catuHsanAH Unless one is initiated by a bona-fide spiritual master in the disciplic succession, the mantra he might have received is without any effect. For this reason four Vaisnava disciplic successions, inaugurated by Laksmi-devi, Lord Brahma, Lord Siva, and the four Kumaras, will appear in the holy place of Jagannatha Puri, and purify the entire earth during the age of Kali. Laksmi-devi chose Ramanujacarya to represent her disciplic succession. In the same way Lord Brahma chose Madhvacarya, Lord Siva chose Visnu Svami, and the four Kumaras chose Nimbarka. (quoted in Prameya-ratnavali by Baladeva Vidyabhusana, 1.5-6) Your servant, Madana-mohana das (Text COM:2590575) -------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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