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>Actually, I should have re-phrased this "nobody in ISKCON wants to be a

>sudra anyway" into something like "In ISKCON there is no really great

>interest among devotees to be sudras".

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>Anyway, these are just our personal observations and not sastric thruts. As

>far as I am concerned, I have noticed that, when speaking about

>establishing varnasrama dharma in ISKCON (which includes _division_ on four

>varnas, after all) then it looks fine till it comes to sudra category.

>Brahmana is fine, ksatriya is fine, vaisya is acceptable, but sudra... just

>don't spell it out.

 

Very nicely put.

 

I belive it was never Prabhupada's plan to have 80% of his society shudras.

When one does even shudra's work for Krsna in right counsciousness he is

higher then any other varna.

 

If one wants to try to establish varnasrama one has to expand the society to

the extends when there what we call a devotees today is a brahmana/ksatria

in the future.

 

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>he can't get devotees work in Goshala even for the higher payment than the

>local sudras. According to him, they all want to be only "in charge" and do

>nothing (and that's actually sudra mentality). In the West, yes...

 

I don't think that this is the question of them not wanting to do this job.

It is just that the association (or sanga) is not that good for western

devotees. Many devotees do so-called 'sudras' work in India but the criteria

is association not the type of work.

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