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> Similarly, in the human society, the social body, there must be these

> classes. The head class, the arm class, the belly class and the leg

> class. Very scientific. You cannot simply... If you have got

> intelligent class of men, but nobody is helping him, then what, what

> will be the use of intelligence? The intelligent class must be there,

> but to help him the less intelligent class men also required. Just

> like if there are only intelligent class, that will be chaos. Nobody will

> care for anyone. Sometimes we'll find in our society, all

> intelligent class, and they fight each other. That's all. Everyone

> is thinking "I am intelligent. I am boss. I must order you." And the

> other is thinking, "Why you shall be boss? I am also boss." So (LAUGH)

> fighting will go on. So this is going on. AT THE PRESENT MOMENT THERE IS

> NO INTELLIGENT CLASS OF MEN. But kalau sudra sambhava. Therefore

> things are all in chaos. Everywhere you go, any part of the world,

> nobody is happy, either in family or community and society,

> nationwide, you take. Everyone is distrust, unhappiness, godlessness.

> Because the intelligent class of men is finished. So the king, his duty

> was that if you are professing yourself as a brahmana, then it is the

> king's duty to see that you are ACTING AS A BRAHMANA. Brahmana is not by

> birth but guna-karma-vibhagasah.

 

CCd: contd., in the same lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam Jan. 1974:

 

Guna means quality. And karma, and work also. Simply "I have got now

sacred thread, I have become brahmana, doubly initiated; now my

business is finished. I CAN WORK, I CAN DO WHATEVER WE LIKE, LIKE LESS

THAN SUDRA, CHANDALA." NO, sir. IF YOU ARE INITIATED AS A BRAHMANA, YOU

MUST ACT AS A BRAHMANA.

 

Truthfulness--sattva, samo damas titiksva arjavam jnanam vijnanaastikyam

brahma-karma--everything is there. A brahmana must be truthful. That is the

first business of a brahmana--truthful. He'll speak truth even before an

enemy. Nobody speaks truth before an enemy because he wants to hide

something. But brahmana's business is to become truthful even before an

enemy.

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CCd: However some more from SB 7.11.17

 

TRANSLATION

 

Except in a time of emergency, lower persons should not accept the

occupational duties of those who are higher. When there is such an

emergency, of course, everyone but the ksatriya may accept the means of

livelihood of others.

 

PURPORT

 

The occupational duty of a brahmana should not be accepted by persons in

lower social orders, especially vaisyas and sudras. For example, an

occupational duty of the brahmana is to teach Vedic knowledge, but unless

there is an emergency, this professional duty should not be accepted by the

ksatriyas, vaisyas or sudras. Even a ksatriya cannot accept the duties of a

brahmana unless there is an emergency, and then even if he does so he should

not accept charity from anyone else. Sometimes brahmanas protest against our

Krsna consciousness movement for creating brahmanas from Europeans, or, in

other words, from mlecchas and yavanas. This movement, however, is here

supported in Srimad-Bhagavatam. At the present moment, society is in a

chaotic condition, and everyone has given up the cultivation of spiritual

life, which is especially meant for the brahmanas. Because spiritual culture

has been stopped all over the world, there is now an emergency, and

therefore it is now time to train those who are considered lower and

condemned, so that they may become brahmanas and take up the work of

spiritual progress.

 

The spiritual progress of human society has been stopped, and this should be

considered an emergency.

 

Here is SOLID SUPPORT FROM NARADA MUNI OF THE MOVEMENT KNOWN AS KRSNA

CONSCIOUSNESS.

 

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'daivi-varnasrama' mission by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura to Srila

Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati:

 

Therefore they attack the pure Vaishnavas, saying,

'They have taken birth in low-class families because of their sins.' Thus

they commit offenses. The solution to the problem is to establish the order

of daiva-varnasrama-dharma - something you have started doing; you should

know that to be the real service to the Vaishnavas. Because pure devotional

conclusions are not being preached, all kinds of superstitions and bad

concepts are being called devotion by such pseudo-sampradayas as sahajiya

and atibari. Please always crush these anti-devotional concepts by preaching

pure devotional conclusions and by setting an EXAMPLE through your personal

conduct.

 

NOD 5

 

So Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura's struggle for this movement has

come out successful.

 

It is on the basis of his position that anyone can now become a Gaudiya

Vaisnava, from any part of the world or any part of the universe. Anyone who

is a pure Vaisnava is situated transcendentally, and therefore the highest

qualification in the material world, namely to be in the mode of goodness,

has already been achieved by such a person. Our Krsna consciousness movement

in the Western world is based on the above-mentioned proposition of Srila

Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Prabhupada, our spiritual master. On his

authority, we are claiming members from all sections of the Western

countries. The so-called brahmanas claim that one who is not born into a

brahmana family cannot receive the sacred thread and cannot become a

high-grade Vaisnava. But we do not accept such a theory, because it is not

supported by Rupa Gosvami nor by the strength of the various scriptures.

Srila Rupa Gosvami specifically mentions herein that every man has the

birthright to accept devotional service and to become Krsna conscious. He

has given many evidences from many scriptures, and he has especially quoted

one passage from Padma Purana, wherein the sage Vasistha tells King Dilipa,

"My dear King, everyone has the right to execute devotional service, just as

he has the right to take early bath in the month of Magha

[December-January]." There is more evidence in the Skanda Purana, in the

Kasi-khanda portion, where it is said, "In the country known as

Mayuradhvaja, the lower-caste people who are considered less than sudras are

also initiated in the Vaisnava cult of devotional service. And when they are

properly dressed, with tilaka on their bodies and beads in their hands and

on their necks, they appear to be coming from Vaikuntha. In fact, they look

so very beautiful that immediately they surpass the ordinary brahmanas."

Thus a Vaisnava automatically becomes a brahmana. This idea is also

supported by Sanatana Gosvami in his book Hari-bhakti-vilasa, which is the

Vaisnava guide. Therein he has clearly stated that any person who is

properly initiated into the Vaisnava cult certainly becomes a brahmana, as

much as the metal known as kamsa (bell metal) is turned into gold by the

mixture of mercury. A bona fide spiritual master, under the guidance of

authorities, can turn anyone to the Vaisnava cult so that naturally he may

come to the topmost position of a brahmana.

 

Srila Rupa Gosvami warns, however, that if a person is properly initiated by

a bona fide spiritual master, he should not think that simply by the

acceptance of such initiation his business is then finished. One still has

to follow the rules and regulations very carefully. If after accepting the

spiritual master and being initiated one does not follow the rules and

regulations of devotional service, then he is again fallen. One must be very

vigilant to remember that he is the part and parcel of the transcendental

body of Krsna, and that it is his duty as part and parcel to give service to

the whole, or Krsna. If we do not render service to Krsna then again we fall

down. In other words, simply becoming initiated does not elevate one to the

position of a high-class brahmana. One also has to discharge the duties and

follow the regulative principles very rigidly.

 

Sri Rupa Gosvami also says that if one is regularly discharging devotional

service, there will be no question of a falldown. But even if

circumstantially there is some falldown, the Vaisnava need have nothing to

do with the prayascitta, the ritualistic ceremony for purification. If

someone falls down from the principles of devotional service, he need not

take to the prayascitta performances for reformation. He simply has to

execute the rules and regulations for discharging devotional service, and

this is sufficient for his reinstatement. This is the mystery of the

Vaisnava cult.

 

Practically there are three processes for elevating one to the platform of

spiritual consciousness. These processes are called karma, jnana and bhakti.

Ritualistic performances are in the field of karma. Speculative processes

are in the field of jnana. One who has taken to bhakti, the devotional

service of the Lord, need have nothing to do with karma or jnana. It has

been already explained that pure devotional service is without any tinge of

karma or jnana. Bhakti should have no tinge of philosophical speculation or

ritualistic performances.

 

In this connection Srila Rupa Gosvami gives evidence from Srimad-Bhagavatam,

Eleventh Canto, Twenty-first Chapter, verse 2, in which Lord Krsna says to

Uddhava, "The distinction between qualification and disqualification may be

made in this way: persons who are already elevated in discharging devotional

service will never again take shelter of the processes of fruitive activity

or philosophical speculation. If one sticks to devotional service and is

conducted by regulative principles given by the authorities and acaryas,

that is the best qualification."

 

This statement is supported in Srimad-Bhagavatam, First Canto, Fifth

Chapter, verse 17, wherein Sri Narada Muni advises Vyasadeva thus: "EVEN if

one does not execute his specific occupational duty, but immediately takes

direct shelter of the lotus feet of Hari [Krsna], there will be no fault on

his part, and in all circumstances his position is secure. Even if, by some

bad association, he falls down while executing devotional service, or if he

doesn't finish the complete course of devotional service and dies untimely,

still he is not at a loss. A person who is simply discharging his

occupational duty in varna and asrama, however, with no Krsna consciousness,

practically does not gain the true benefit of human life." The purport is

that all conditioned souls who are engaged very frantically in activities

for sense gratification, without knowing that this process will never help

them get out of material contamination, are awarded only with repeated

births and deaths.

 

 

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Just like in your body there must be the head, there must be the arms, there

must be the belly, and ... Then it is perfect. And if the head is cracked,

then everything is gone, madman. So at the present moment there is no

brahmana, qualified. Therefore the society is in chaos. In chaotic

condition...

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