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> True, establishing "conscious" communities is the way to go. But how will we

> draw the right stock of folk together under a common agenda? Forming viable

 

> communities is not as simple as herding a bunch of cows.

 

Cow protection is not as simple as herding a bunch of cows.

 

> Not to minimize your

> interests, but simply going back to nature and protecting cows will not

happen

> without the cooperative efforts of socially and spiritually enlightened

souls.

>

> A sexist or elitist society can never establish a spiritual culture such as

> approaching we what call "Vedic."

>

> Our efforts must therefore be comprehensive and address the issues from all

> perspectives.

>

> Srila dasa

 

Everything is connected to everything else, or to use devotee jargon, we are

all

part and parcel of Krsna. We can address the issues from any vantage point,

as

everything is connected. We are limited in our ability to percieve or act, so

we

need to choose a vantage point to address the issues from.

 

Srimad-Bhagavatam Canto 8: Chapter Twenty-four, Text 5 :PURPORT

 

Without protection of cows, brahminical culture cannot be maintained;

and without brahminical culture, the aim of life cannot be fulfilled.

 

 

Srimad-Bhagavatam Canto 1: Chapter Nineteen, Text ; :PURPORT

 

Cow protection means feeding the brahminical culture, which leads towards

God consciousness, and thus perfection of human civilization is achieved.

 

To try to address issues from a vantage point that does have at it's base cow

protection is one I am not comfortable with personally. I accept Srila

Prabhupada's opinion as above expressed, that without cow protection, other

vantage points will not be sustainable over the long term.

 

To protect cows you need land that is sheltered from being lost. Where we

don't

control government, we can use Trusts to secure ownership of land and proper

land

useage. The administrators of those Trusts would have ksatriya type

responsibilities, and have the land to let out to share croppers, thus the 25%

thing starts to be addressed.

 

To have cow protection, you need cow herders. To develop loyal cowherders

that

will stick it out for the long haul, you need to have a society that can

attract

and hold them. Start at the root.

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>

> True, establishing "conscious" communities is the way to go. But how will we

> draw the right stock of folk together under a common agenda? Forming viable

 

> communities is not as simple as herding a bunch of cows.

 

Cow protection is not as simple as herding a bunch of cows.

 

> Not to minimize your

> interests, but simply going back to nature and protecting cows will not

happen

> without the cooperative efforts of socially and spiritually enlightened

souls.

>

> A sexist or elitist society can never establish a spiritual culture such as

> approaching we what call "Vedic."

>

> Our efforts must therefore be comprehensive and address the issues from all

> perspectives.

>

> Srila dasa

 

Everything is connected to everything else, or to use devotee jargon, we are

all

part and parcel of Krsna. We can address the issues from any vantage point,

as

everything is connected. We are limited in our ability to percieve or act, so

we

need to choose a vantage point to address the issues from.

 

Srimad-Bhagavatam Canto 8: Chapter Twenty-four, Text 5 :PURPORT

 

Without protection of cows, brahminical culture cannot be maintained;

and without brahminical culture, the aim of life cannot be fulfilled.

 

 

Srimad-Bhagavatam Canto 1: Chapter Nineteen, Text ; :PURPORT

 

Cow protection means feeding the brahminical culture, which leads towards

God consciousness, and thus perfection of human civilization is achieved.

 

To try to address issues from a vantage point that does have at it's base cow

protection is one I am not comfortable with personally. I accept Srila

Prabhupada's opinion as above expressed, that without cow protection, other

vantage points will not be sustainable over the long term.

 

To protect cows you need land that is sheltered from being lost. Where we

don't

control government, we can use Trusts to secure ownership of land and proper

land

useage. The administrators of those Trusts would have ksatriya type

responsibilities, and have the land to let out to share croppers, thus the 25%

thing starts to be addressed.

 

To have cow protection, you need cow herders. To develop loyal cowherders

that

will stick it out for the long haul, you need to have a society that can

attract

and hold them. Start at the root.

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On 05 Jan 1999, Srila Dasa wrote:

> Respectfully, simply going back to a more primitive form of life will not

> prove a panacaea for our psychological, social and spiritual ills.

 

 

I do not see Simple Living and High Thinking as "going back", I se it as going

forward. We become blind to this fact when we are mired in the modern

civilization of technology-dependency. Regular breaks from it to visit the

country and forests develops finer tissues of the brain which in turn

enlighten us.

 

 

> the aborted project

> of trying to live a virtuous life on the farm without first instilling

social

> values and sensitive human connections.

 

 

We tend to make things more complicated than necessary. We think we should

only "do" varnasrama-dharma if we can do it "perfectly". We don't do anything

perfectly so we just end up on the mental platform thinking "if only...".

Varnasrama-dharma can be started immediately by us crude pioneers - that's the

idea!

 

"Ultimately the aim of varnasrama-dharma is to turn a crude man into a pure

devotee of the Lord, or a Vaisnava." SB 1.2.2

 

We don't first become pure and spiritually advanced THEN take up

varnasrama-dharma. It's the other way around.

 

 

yfs,

Jd

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