Guest guest Posted January 1, 1999 Report Share Posted January 1, 1999 > It my understanding all military forces (ksatriyas) were in hands of a > king. And it was a duty of king to protect his vaisyas, so he was > appointing his soldiers for that job. And king paid them, not the vaisyas. > (Because soldiers should be loyal to the king first of all, not to the > vaisyas). And was he doing that for free then? Not exactly. The king has a > right to collect taxes from his citizens: > > 118. A Kshatriya (king) who, in times of distress, takes even the fourth > part (of the crops), is free from guilt, if he protects his subjects to > the best of his ability. > 119. His peculiar duty is conquest, and he must not turn back in danger; > having protected the Vaisyas by his weapons, he may cause the legal tax to > be collected; > 120. (Viz.) from Vaisyas one-eighth as the tax on grain, > one-twentieth (on the profits on gold and cattle), which amount at least > to one Karshapana; Sudras, artisans, and mechanics (shall) > benefit (the king) by (doing) work (for him). > > What is your opinion about it? Makes sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 1999 Report Share Posted January 1, 1999 > > 119. His peculiar duty is conquest, and he must not turn back in danger; > > having protected the Vaisyas by his weapons, he may cause the legal tax to > > be collected; > > 120. (Viz.) from Vaisyas one-eighth as the tax on grain, > > one-twentieth (on the profits on gold and cattle), which amount at least > > to one Karshapana; Sudras, artisans, and mechanics (shall) > > benefit (the king) by (doing) work (for him). > > > > What is your opinion about it? > > Now we know why none of the "vaisyas" associated with ISKCON get into farming - ugrakarmic activities don't appear to be covered in the Manu Samhita tax scheme. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 1999 Report Share Posted January 1, 1999 > > 119. His peculiar duty is conquest, and he must not turn back in danger; > > having protected the Vaisyas by his weapons, he may cause the legal tax to > > be collected; > > 120. (Viz.) from Vaisyas one-eighth as the tax on grain, > > one-twentieth (on the profits on gold and cattle), which amount at least > > to one Karshapana; Sudras, artisans, and mechanics (shall) > > benefit (the king) by (doing) work (for him). > > > > What is your opinion about it? > > Now we know why none of the "vaisyas" associated with ISKCON get into farming - ugrakarmic activities don't appear to be covered in the Manu Samhita tax scheme. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 1999 Report Share Posted January 2, 1999 >Speaking of which, how about this for an atractive job >- Iraqi Air Defense. Real future with that job! By the way, I know that was a casual comment, but please don't depersonalise and demonise the ordinary Iraqis. They are a comparatively very nice people - warm, friendly, and quite open minded - not fanatics. They were considered close allies of the US during the Iran - Iraq war, and suddenly they were dumped and are now suffering twice over - once from an unfeeling dictator and the second time from the callous superpower leadership. Terrible karma all round. But we should feel very sorry for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 1999 Report Share Posted January 2, 1999 >Speaking of which, how about this for an atractive job >- Iraqi Air Defense. Real future with that job! By the way, I know that was a casual comment, but please don't depersonalise and demonise the ordinary Iraqis. They are a comparatively very nice people - warm, friendly, and quite open minded - not fanatics. They were considered close allies of the US during the Iran - Iraq war, and suddenly they were dumped and are now suffering twice over - once from an unfeeling dictator and the second time from the callous superpower leadership. Terrible karma all round. But we should feel very sorry for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 1999 Report Share Posted January 3, 1999 COM: Vijaya-venugopala (das) JPS (Persian Gulf) wrote: > [Text 1981667 from COM] > > >Speaking of which, how about this for an atractive job > >- Iraqi Air Defense. Real future with that job! > > By the way, I know that was a casual comment, but please don't depersonalise > and demonise the ordinary Iraqis. They are a comparatively very nice people > - warm, friendly, and quite open minded - not fanatics. They were considered > close allies of the US during the Iran - Iraq war, and suddenly they were > dumped and are now suffering twice over - once from an unfeeling dictator > and the second time from the callous superpower leadership. Terrible karma > all round. But we should feel very sorry for them. Point taken. Actually, I was involved in some anti war activities during desert storm , so am sympathetic to what you are saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 1999 Report Share Posted January 3, 1999 COM: Vijaya-venugopala (das) JPS (Persian Gulf) wrote: > [Text 1981667 from COM] > > >Speaking of which, how about this for an atractive job > >- Iraqi Air Defense. Real future with that job! > > By the way, I know that was a casual comment, but please don't depersonalise > and demonise the ordinary Iraqis. They are a comparatively very nice people > - warm, friendly, and quite open minded - not fanatics. They were considered > close allies of the US during the Iran - Iraq war, and suddenly they were > dumped and are now suffering twice over - once from an unfeeling dictator > and the second time from the callous superpower leadership. Terrible karma > all round. But we should feel very sorry for them. Point taken. Actually, I was involved in some anti war activities during desert storm , so am sympathetic to what you are saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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