Guest guest Posted January 2, 1999 Report Share Posted January 2, 1999 > On Fri, 1 Jan 1999, COM: Jatukarnya (das) HKS (Cintamani Intl, Oslo - N) > wrote: > > > [Text 1980002 from COM] > > > > > It my understanding all military forces (ksatriyas) were in hands of a > > > king. And it was a duty of king to protect his vaisyas, so he was > > > appointing his soldiers for that job. And king paid them, not the > > > vaisyas. (Because soldiers should be loyal to the king first of all, > > > not to the vaisyas). And was he doing that for free then? Not exactly. > > > The king has a right to collect taxes from his citizens: > > > > > > 118. A Kshatriya (king) who, in times of distress, takes even the > > > fourth part (of the crops), is free from guilt, if he protects his > > > subjects to the best of his ability. > > > 119. His peculiar duty is conquest, and he must not turn back in > > > danger; having protected the Vaisyas by his weapons, he may cause the > > > legal tax to be collected; > > > 120. (Viz.) from Vaisyas one-eighth as the tax on grain, > > > one-twentieth (on the profits on gold and cattle), which amount at > > > least to one Karshapana; Sudras, artisans, and mechanics (shall) > > > benefit (the king) by (doing) work (for him). > > > > > > What is your opinion about it? > > > > Makes sense to me. > > > HKDD comments: > > Not to me. If Srila Prabhupada didn't give it to us directly, I think it > might be dangerous for us to even touch it. As regards vaisyas, Srila > Prabhupada recommended that they should pay 25% of their produce (not > profits) to the ksatriya. I am sorry that I was so unclear with my comment. I meant to comment on the following part of the text from Bh. Oleg: > > > It my understanding all military forces (ksatriyas) were in hands of a > > > king. And it was a duty of king to protect his vaisyas, so he was > > > appointing his soldiers for that job. And king paid them, not the > > > vaisyas. (Because soldiers should be loyal to the king first of all, > > > not to the vaisyas). And was he doing that for free then? Not exactly. > > > The king has a right to collect taxes from his citizens: That makes sense to me. To apply the exact taxes quoted also does not make sense to me. Regarding the 25 % of their intire produce, are you sure about this? I seem to remember that we discussed this earlier, and that we agreed that it was 25 % of the profit. Otherwise, it would be very hard to make profit. I think it would bankrupt almost any business nowadays to have to pay 25 % of its produce to the king or state. Ys Jkd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 1999 Report Share Posted January 3, 1999 > > > > Regarding the 25 % of their intire produce, are you sure about this? I seem > to remember that we discussed this earlier, and that we agreed that it was > 25 % of the profit. Otherwise, it would be very hard to make profit. I think > it would bankrupt almost any business nowadays to have to pay 25 % of its > produce to the king or state. > > Ys > Jkd That is when the king is supplying the land. In WV, if I go to cut the hay off another's property, I have to give 1/3 of the hay. it drops if I am fertilising. If I share crop corn ground, then 25% is more common. If I own my own land, then that percentage would drop dramatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 1999 Report Share Posted January 3, 1999 > > > > Regarding the 25 % of their intire produce, are you sure about this? I seem > to remember that we discussed this earlier, and that we agreed that it was > 25 % of the profit. Otherwise, it would be very hard to make profit. I think > it would bankrupt almost any business nowadays to have to pay 25 % of its > produce to the king or state. > > Ys > Jkd That is when the king is supplying the land. In WV, if I go to cut the hay off another's property, I have to give 1/3 of the hay. it drops if I am fertilising. If I share crop corn ground, then 25% is more common. If I own my own land, then that percentage would drop dramatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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