VAD and economics

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>> it in the guru worship system that was established after the

>> Prabhupada's departure. It took years to understand that and only in

>> 1987 or so it started changing and is still almost the same in many

>> places. We cannot afford same mess in the social experiments.

>>

 

>So there is some light coming into our differences of opinion I see.

>

>Krsna Consciousness is like a razor's edge. It can, if properly used,

>shave one cleanly, or if misused, caused serious injury.

(snip)

>The very heart of the difficulty we have had with the guru system is

>because varna was not followed. Being guru means being teacher. Teacher

>is a brahminical occupation. Being a manager is a ksatriya or vaisya

>occupation.

 

I should not object to what you have said. You said it before I never

objected. But I think that guru can manage and guru can teach, (but not

necessary in the same place, just to avoid the guru-king syndrome.) The

problem comes when he manages predominantly his disciples or followers, then

he can go absolute if he is not humble.

 

So the main problem was that _because_ he is manager therefore he should be

worshiped.

 

Worship should be done according to the actual level of advancement (as a

madhyama adhikari). It is not needed to worship a guru as an uttama adhikari

if he is not (something Kritanananda dasa never agreed to right?).

 

In the same time why would uttama-adhikari insist to have worship as uttama?

 

Abhirama often said that the part of the ceremony of coronation is to take

dust from the doorsteps of all the subjects, even lowborn etc,. So the king

will be humble and see himself as a servant of others not master.

 

But I really like your idea that the two functions should go separately.

 

But even if you are right wouldn't Kritananda (say) find a faithfull

disciple to be his disciple-king and rule throught him? Just a thought...